This is the first I'd heard about this. What the hell?

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A few Cobras with Hellfire missiles can cure the issue.

Glenn Beck has been screaming about this for awhile now.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Aglennbeck.com+mexican+military+border&btnG=Search

Outrageous.

I must say...Sanchek is ROCKIN' with the topics lately!!! Our own version of Ron Paul!!!

It makes me sad how the Republican party has just blatantly crapped on the guy....I hope he never goes away.

What the hell?
This is the first I've heard of this.
It makes me want to dress in my old BDUs and go snipe on the border or something :(

It is all a matter of how you view things....




I prefer through the crosshairs of a good scope.:devil

That's pretty outrageous. Astounding that the administration has been silent about this.

That's pretty outrageous. Astounding that the administration has been silent about this.


Well....silence is the best way to deny your involvement or knowledge of a situation...we have been sold out to put it mildly and anyone who thinks we haven't deserves whats coming.

Crackheads and Heroin addicts dont vote. but mexican druglords DO funnel money to political campaigns.
I'll leave it to you to figure out wich party benifits the most from this arrangement.

Certainly not the American people.....

'Mexican army crossing our border,repeatedly'

- But Mexico isn't on the border of the UK? Ah, my bad, you're assuming we're all Americans, and as such care.

This is nothing new.

http://hsc.house.gov/PDFs/InvestigationsSubcommitteereport.pdf


But oh no.. I bitch about illegals and the Mexicans for years and I'm labeled a racist (thank you so much Halo). Time to pull your head out of the sand O-bots and Billary/Juan Pablo McCain's(same person). Tis a shame Paul and Tancredo were never taken seriously. Now we really get to pay for it. Can't wait.

you are labeled a fucking racist because of bullshit like...

A vote for Barack HUSSEIN Obama is a vote for kill whitey.

you ignorant fuck.

to add, every time i read that dman website in your sig i get more angry. Your family were immigrants too.

His family came here illegally (read undocumented)?

I think you might be getting into symantics. Immigrants who are here "undocumented" are here illegally.

Not all immigrants are illegal, but the ones that don't go through the process of becoming "documented", are.

There is a process, those that fail to go through it (for whatever reasons) are breaking the law.

I agree, however the Barak part of his signature, is a bit over the top.....

if you read the website, they are even anti-Legal immigrants. or perhaps my anger is blinding me

The interesting thing about Osgiliath is his total judgement based on a name...to do that some of our greatest citizens would have been vilified under his rules.

Barack Hussein Obama, Omar Bradley, Benjamin Franklin and other Semitically Named American Heroes

At Cincinnati, Bill Cunningham, according to the LAT, who "introduced presidential candidate John McCain at a rally here today accused Barack Obama of sympathizing with 'world leaders who want to kill us' and invoked Obama's middle name -- three times calling him 'Barack Hussein Obama.' " John McCain repudiated Cunningham's low tactics and said that using the middle name like that three times was "inappropriate" and would never happen again at one of his rallies.

I want to say something about Barack Hussein Obama's name. It is a name to be proud of. It is an American name. It is a blessed name. It is a heroic name, as heroic and American in its own way as the name of General Omar Nelson Bradley or the name of Benjamin Franklin. And denigrating that name is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort. It is a prejudice against names deriving from Semitic languages!

Christian, Western heroes have often been bequeathed Middle Eastern names. Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar, the medieval Spanish hero, carried the name El Cid, from the Arabic al-Sayyid, "the lord."

Barack and Hussein are Semitic words. Americans have been named with Semitic names since the founding of the Republic. Fourteen of our 43 presidents have had Semitic names (see below). And, American English contains many Arabic-derived words that we use every day and without which we would be much impoverished. America is a world civilization with a world heritage, something Cunninghamism will never understand.
Barack is a Semitic word meaning "to bless" as a verb or "blessing" as a noun. In its Hebrew form, barak, it is found all through the Bible. It first occurs in Genesis 1:22: "And God blessed (ḇāreḵə ) them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth."

Here is a list of how many times barak appears in each book of the Bible.
Now let us take the name "Hussein." It is from the Semitic word, hasan, meaning "good" or "handsome." Husayn is the diminutive, affectionate form.

Barack Obama's middle name is in honor of his grandfather, Hussein, a secular resident of Nairobi. Americans may think of Saddam Hussein when they hear the name, but that is like thinking of Stalin when you hear the name Joseph. There have been lots of Husseins in history, from the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad, a hero who touched the historian Gibbon, to King Hussein of Jordan, one of America's most steadfast allies in the 20th century. The author of the beloved American novel, The Kite Runner, is Khaled Hosseini.

But in Obama's case, it is just a reference to his grandfather.

It is worth pointing out that John McCain's adopted daughter, Bridget, is originally from Bangladesh. Since Hussein is a very common name in Bangladesh, it is entirely possible that her birth father or grandfather was named Hussein. McCain certainly has Muslim relatives via adoption in his family. If Muslim relatives are a disqualification from high office in the United States, then McCain himself is in trouble. In fact, since Bridget is upset that George W. Bush doesn't like her "because she is black," and used her to stop the McCain campaign in South Carolina in 2000, you understand why McCain would be especially sensitive to race-baiting of Cunningham's sort. The question is how vigorously he will combat it; he hasn't been above Muslim-taunting in the campaign so far. (And, the McCains really should let Bridget know that she is Asian, not "black." The poor girl; Bush and Rove have done a number on her, and Cindy's confusion can't help.)

The other thing to say about grandfathers named Hussein is that very large numbers of African-Americans probably have an ancestor ten or eleven generations ago with that name, in what is now Mali or Senegal or Nigeria. And, since so many thousands of Arab Muslims were made to convert to Catholicism in Spain after 1501, many Latinos have distant ancestors named Hussein, too. In fact, since there was a lot of Arab-Spanish intermarriage, and since there was subsequent Spanish intermarriage with other European Catholics, more European Americans are descended from a Hussein than they realize. The British royal family is quite forthright about the Arab line in their ancestry going back to Andalusia.

Obama, being a cousin of Dick Cheney on one side and having relatives in Kenya on the other, is just more and more typical of the 21st century United States.

So, anyway, Obama's first two names mean "Blessing, the Good." If we are lucky enough to get him for president, we can only hope that his names are prophetic for us.

Which brings me to Omar Bradley. Omar is an alternative spelling of Umar, i.e. Umar ibn al-Khattab, the second caliph of Sunni Islam. Presumably General Bradley was named for the poet Omar Khayyam, who bore the caliph's name. Omar Khayyam's Rubaiyat, in the "translation" of Edward FitzGerald, became enormously popular in Victorian America.

Gen. Omar Bradley, who bore a Semitic, Muslim first name, and shared it with the second Caliph of Sunni Islam, was the hero of D-Day and Normandy, of the Battle of the Bulge and the Ruhr.

Would Mr. Cunningham see Omar Bradley as un-American, as an enemy because of his name?

What about other American heroes, such as Gen. George Joulwan, former NATO Supreme Allied Commander of Europe? "Joulwan" is an Arabic name. Or there is Gen. John Abizaid, former CENTCOM commander. Abizaid is an Arabic name. Abi means Abu or "father of," and Zaid is a common Arab first name. Is Cunningham good enough to wipe their shoes? Is he going to call them traitors because they have Arabic names?

What about Congressman Darrell Issa of California? ("`Isa" means Jesus in Arabic). Former cabinet secretary Donna Shalala? (Shalala means "waterfall" in Arabic).

I won't go into all the great Americans with Arabic names in sports, entertainment and business, against whom Cunningham would apparently discriminate on that basis. Does he want to take citizenship away from Kareem Abdul Jabbar [meaning "noble the servant of the Mighty"] and Ahmad Jamal [meaning "the most praised, beauty"]? What about Rihanna ["sweet basil," "aromatic"]? Tony Shalhoub [i.e. Mr. Monk]?

Let us take Benjamin Franklin. His first name is from the Hebrew Bin Yamin, the son of the Right (hand), or son of strength, or the son of the South (yamin or right has lots of connotations). The "Bin" means "son of," just as in modern colloquial Arabic. Bin Yamin Franklin is not a dishonorable name because of its Semitic root. By the way, there are lots of Muslims named Bin Yamin.

As for an American president bearing a name derived from a Semitic language, that is hardly unprecedented.

John Adams really only had Semitic names. His first name is from the Hebrew Yochanan, or gift of God, which became Johan and then John. (In German and in medieval English, "y" is represented by "j" but was originally pronounced "y".) Adams is from the biblical Adam, which also just means "human being." In Arabic, one way of saying "human being" is "Bani Adam," the children of men.

Thomas Jefferson's first name is from the Aramaic Tuma, meaning "twin." Aramaic is a Semitic language spoken by Jesus, which is related to Hebrew and Arabic. In Arabic twin is tau'am, so you can see the similarity.
James Madison, James Monroe and James Polk all had a Semitic first name, derived from the Hebrew Ya'aqov or Jacob, which is Ya`qub in Arabic. It became Iacobus in Latin, then was corrupted to Iacomus, and from there became James in English.

Zachary Taylor's first name is from the Hebrew Zachariah, which means "the Lord has remembered."

Abraham Lincoln, of course is, named for the patriarch Abraham, from the Semitic word for father, Ab, and the word for "multitude," raham,. Abu, "father of," is a common element in Arab names today.

So, Mr. Cunningham, Barack Hussein Obama fits right in this list of presidents with Semitic names. In fact, we haven't had one for a while. We are due for another one.

A blessed and good one.

woot my name Nathaniel is semetic omg! hehe good find.

bah sorry for the derailing of the thread. Back to the main topic, I know this shouldnt be a factor, but dealing with it would be an ugly PR nightmare wouldnt it?

Osgiliath has never demonstrated any particular thought process here and isn't doing so now. Mexican army incursions across our border have nothing to do with immigration issues. One can be a complete accomodationist, immigrantly speaking, and still want to kick a foreign army off our dirt.

Well, unless they just crossed the border looking for "work"....

Hey, let's gather them up, and send them to Afghanistan the next time they "come up for a visit".....

God is going to get me for this...

Well, unless they just crossed the border looking for "work"....

Hey, let's gather them up, and send them to Afghanistan the next time they "come up for a visit".....


I didn't realize that there was a need for vegetable pickers in Afghanistan... (Dear God forgive me for my sick and sad humor)

I didn't realize that there was a need for vegetable pickers in Afghanistan... (Dear God forgive me for my sick and sad humor)

hey now, someones gotta pluck all that opium (http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/article/www2.irna.ir4840.htm)

dot dot dot i hate you guys :p

Would they then try to cross the border into Iran and Pakistan and smuggle the opium?

I'm sure there are some jobs Iranians and Pakistanians just won't do.

Would they then try to cross the border into Iran and Pakistan and smuggle the opium?

That could be a viable solution to the warlords there. Pit them against Mexican drug lords and they can all duke it out.

I'm bettin on the Mexicans. They have Voodoo priests and what not, backin them up.

That could be a viable solution to the warlords there. Pit them against Mexican drug lords and they can all duke it out.

There are no "Warlords" in Iran...

Iran is pretty harsh on drug smugglers... It is pretty much an instant death sentence.

I'm sure there are some jobs Iranians and Pakistanians just won't do.
Suicide bombing fig orchards, perhaps?

There are no "Warlords" in Iran...

Iran is pretty harsh on drug smugglers... It is pretty much an instant death sentence.

Umm hi Jedd, we were talking about Afghanistan and not Iran. You are too quick to post about Iran.

I'm sure there are some jobs Iranians and Pakistanians just won't do.

emphasis mine.

You guys are amazingly bad at staying on topic.

Hey, if Mexicans are increasing global warming in Gaza, it needs to be discussed.

And flouride is to blame for Gary Gygax's death. Hillary and Obama are doing to debate it......

No sixee WRONG, Gary died by lead poisioning from cheaply produced chinese game figurines.
(forgive me Gary)

I m thinking the paint was lead based I used to paint mine back then. Damn I never should of sold all my AD@D books and figures so I coudl party while I was starving for alcohol and partying on leave from the navy.

Don't forget - they used to own much of your South-West, but you took it from them. They're probably just being sentimental.

Don't forget - they used to own much of your South-West, but you took it from them.

Sssshhh, be quiet Halo!

That is all we need, more hand-wringing and editorializing on the evil we have done and how we should now cede a 1/4 of our country to the Mexican government, and offer full citizenship to any "illegals" living in that portion of the country who can show documentation that they are from Mexico.

PSAH!!, we had Cowboys with chaps and boots and spurs and all the cool accutraments. they had funny looking hats and fought in formation like the Brits.
They lost plain and simple!!!
Morale of the story= you fight like a Brit, you lose!

'Morale of the story= you fight like a Brit, you lose!'

- Right, which is why in three centuries we've only lost one war, booya!

halo, maybe you should stop bragging about defeating people with rusty spears, which are about 97% of those wars. =(

Yeah, and the fact that the U.S. bailed them out in 2 of the last major ones....

I know it's fun to rip on Halo, but give the Brits some credit. They're about the only ally we have that doesn't go vapors if they lose a soldier in combat. They're doing well in Afghantistan right now... though I think they pulled out a bit early in southern Iraq. That's a political weakness, not a military one.

I just finished getting caught up on this among other topics. Forgive the slight derail from dogging on the Brits, but...I've heard of this type of boarder incursion before, but it's usually rumors and stories. I can understand DHS failing to catch smugglers and workers sneaking in, but I'm blown away by the actual ramifications of ignoring and allowing a foreign military to fire on government agents. I'm really surprised there isn't more outrage - you hear more in the news about insurgents firing on soldiers in Iraq. Or is Chertoff still getting his intel out of the newspaper?

Mexican army incursions across our border have nothing to do with immigration issues.

Is this a homeland security issue? lol

Related: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-03-10-mexico-trucks_N.htm

Also interesting: http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/03/27/mexico.juarez/index.html

Didn't someone on this or another thread say posting troops on our border was a bad idea, because the government of Mexico could construe that as an aggressive act?

How come it doesn't work the same in reverse?

We absolutely should have troops within beck and call at the boarder. Don't care if Mexico likes it , especially if they're running over our boarder with their own army.

I think we should base a brigade at the resorts in Cancun, and another in Mazatlan.