Christopher Reeve, the star of the "Superman" movies whose near-fatal riding accident nine years ago turned him into a worldwide advocate for spinal cord research, died Sunday of heart failure, his publicist said. He was 52. After his accident he did a lot of things for research into paralysis, raised a lot of money. He is a real life hero as well as a on screen one. May his legacy live on.

heh.

I wonder what effect this may have on the Smallville storyline. 8(

Only movie that was any good that he was in was Noises Off. Ironically also staring John Ritter. FUNNY movie. Sad to see another star burn out.

Guess not everyone thinks he is that great of a guy.

http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=creeve

I don't agree with Maddox totally but he does have valid points.

Yes, have to agree. Maddox is insensitive and uncothe (who gives a shit about that anyway though) but he is probably dead on. And yes, I deleted my previous post where I called him a great man and a figher. I guess deep down inside I always agreed with Maddox but for some stupid reason I decided to be "politically correct" and post some bullshit. The "great man (or woman) and figher" comment will now be reserved for any veteran in a wheelchair, some who are under the age of 20, instead of rich actors who had Karma catch up with their huberius.

I suppose Kerry shouldn't have coined his name in the debates..

Oh, for the love of bad taste. I have it in spades.

Watch all of the press this entertainer is going to get- then count up all of the press those killed in Afghanistan and Iraq are getting.

Doesn't seem fair somehow.

Its because you have to be rich and famous for anyone to give a fuck about you.

He is going to get more press because of his courage rather than his movie fame. A lot of people just lay down an give up when they get paralyzed. He kept fighting. He regained some use of his extremities and made good progress towards finding a cure for paralasys. He was truly a super man.

I don't give a shit about any rich or famous persons, because I am not one. :mad:

I try not to support them either. All media via duplication please, LoL. I dont even rent, I have a friend that wants me to dupe shit bring it over. The collection of free movies and music is crazy. I love my Sony burner.

A few exceptions. Stanly Kubric films, The Big Labowski, Jaws, and the Clint Eastwood spaghetti trilogy (Fistfull of Dollars, For a few Dollars More, The Good The Bad and the Ugly). Everything else is duped via freeware. With the exception of SupermanX, it will not taint my dvd burner's well polished trey.

Damn the man, his taxes, his insurance policy, and those rotten overpaid Thespians! :(

He was truly a super man.
I have to disagree. He was a rich man that got his silken lifestyle ruined by a hairy beast. Did I mention he was rich? Oh yea how many non-rich 'n famous do you see fighting the good fight? I will wager there are those that struggle as much if not more that this TOOL but they don't have the budget to buy fetus' research and whine about themselves on the Tonight Show.

To quote Phrack,

My Favorite Christopher Reeve quote "aaaauuugghhh"

How many non rich and famous are donating the $$$$ ching ching for the cause. I think thats the fucking point here fellas. Not that hes some rich retarded fuck..he could of layed in his millions with strippers all day long but he instead decided hey I need to try and do what I can for those with spinal injuries. If half you pansy could come up with even .00000010th of a fight for a cause and actually make a difference then you too might make into STARDOM your self..till then sit behind your PC's all day long playing video games not making a difference if your dead or alive.

Ibudin

If you can show that he was donating money to paralasys BEFORE he was paralyzed then he was a great man trying to do something good for the world. Otherwise he was a rich guy who got hurt then funnled alll his money into research to help himself. Sure the side effect was it will help others, but it does not make you a great philanthropist to fund a cure for a disease/disability you have.

Actually, if he was donating money to any charity, he was a good man trying to do something for the world. I don't find it selfish if he changed the focus of his philanthropy (and for all anyone here knows, he may have added funding related to paralysis to whatever other charities he supported); how many of you -- when seriously ill -- sent checks to related foundations and charities?

Maddox is off base in this particular diatribe. He spends most of his time harping on what are cliche' platitudes commonly attributed to those living under difficult circumstances. If someone makes an effort and has a good attitude, we say he's "living life to the fullest" or has "found new meaning in life" or "more appreciation for what life has to offer." You can see those quotes in any news story where someone survives a brush with death. They just happened to be used (not surpisingly) in Reeves' case, so Maddox brands him an asshole.

If Reeves never spent a dime towards charity, then Maddox has a point. If Reeves dropped any other charitable donations he supported pre-accident in order to fund his paralysis foundation, then Maddox has something approaching a point. But if Reeve gave to charities before the accident and added the paralysis foundation after, then all this bitching is just Maddox crying out for attention per usual, his way of finding new meaning in life.

Trying to put any real basis behind the things Maddox says is pretty silly. It's satire - he's just trying to be funny. If he really wanted to make a strong thesis, he probably wouldn't (poorly) photoshop Reeve into a Mortal Kombat screenshot.

Wow he died of heart failure? ironic.

He lived like a ego centric prick and died like a ego centric prick.

The best thing I can think of to say about the man is the results of his narcisism and desperation may benefit me or someone I love in the future. Thanks Timmmmay!

Thanks for the link to that maddox website. That was fun reading.

you flip flop like kerry Real original. You should get a Pulitzer Prize for that one.

So I decided not be be Polically Correct and changed my statement. Big fucking deal. From now on you get what you get. I might soon rank down there with Buyza and Inks but hey, at least I am not sucking up to Admins all day either.

So let me get this straight. If you are poor and fight for a cure of your disabilty you are great. If you are rich and fight for a cure for your disability you are egocentric?
Christopher Reeve did do charity work before his accident and was a big supporter of the small theater.

Did I mention he was rich?

So fucking what? Sounds to me like you are bitter because you are not.

Nah the sad thing is people declaring him a hero for being a self serving asshole.

Would your wife be able to thank your personal staff when you die? How many quad's out there do you think have life as easy as Reeves did and continue on their merry fuckin way without all the fan fair? He had an accident and got hurt and wanted to get better and did everything he could to make that happen. Great. He isn't a hero because he has / had more money with which to do that nor is he a hero for wrapping himself up as the poster child for spinal cord injuries in order to get what he wanted. That's all he did. Don't be so dramatic.

If he had such devotion and conviction and was such a humanitarian go research what his last role was before he got hurt and find out what kinds of research he did. He wasn't inspired to take on the cause till he got hurt and then all of a sudden it was the most important issue of the day and should have money thrown at it by everyone.

someone took their angry pills this morning

I'll be angry if Mcnair throws for more than 370 yards and 3 TD's :(

someone took their angry pills this morning
I didn't know Vig-Rx could make someone so angry.

He isn't a hero because he has / had more money with which to do that nor is he a hero for wrapping himself up as the poster child for spinal cord injuries in order to get what he wanted.Actually, the "hero" aspect has more to do with his "not giving up" attitude, his drive to walk again, and the inspiration he's given others who suffer similar disabilities. He had the money to start a foundation to help all such people, but it was his drive to fight dismal odds that, to some, makes him a hero.

Show me that he didn't give to charity before the accident and you might have a point. But calling Reeve a selfish asshole because he didn't give to that particular charity is just cynical, bitter, and far more reflective on you than on him.

Gokuu is my hero. He's a gnome and hasn't given up yet!1! Against such dismal odds, you are an inspiration to all gnomes gokuu and we must honor you for it.

From what I've read the only charitiy he deemed worthy before he got hurt was the arts. *Cough* buying respect from your contemporaries *cough*. Such a noble humanitarian. Definitely worthy of worship. You'd think the role of a disabled cop would have touched him very deeply and inspired a powerful and meaningful reaction in such a selfless hero, before he had to walk a mile in the shoes.

Well, in the grand scheme, he has done alot less damage and more positive overall than most of the other rich assholes discussed on this board. Perhaps that makes his passing even more tragic. Those other rich assholes unfortunately are still alive. Egocentic self preservation with the bank roll to support it resulting in advances for others who also happen to be physcially disabled BUT not famous or rich or some combination of both seems a decent concept. I know if I broke my neck and ended up a paraplegic, I'm not sure if I would want someone to trip over the power cord connected to my respirator or not ( I am sure some of you are asking "Where do I sign up!" ) if I was in that situation. I know if I was facing life strapped to a chair with nothing but technology keeping me alive, I would rather be rich than dirt ass poor. Only the best wheelchair and definately the best respirator and most comfortable catheter money can buy. Thanks!

This is not anything I ever gave too much thought over. I guess I really didn't care, so maybe thats why I really don't have a rock solid opinion on this whole thing. As far as handicapped folks go, there is no need to patronize them. If they can do something useful, than props to them. Chris Reeve's brain still functioned just fine, which brings up another man in a similiar situation who probably is even braver a man than Reeves. Arn't we all forgetting:

http://www.4webmasters.org/scinetpics/top100c/stephenhawking.jpg

Yah, but all he did was just a bunch of science shit and wasn't cast by Hollywood to play a idealized comic book hero. What a dumbass.

He's too goofy lookin to be a hero too.

What's Mr. Hawking's foundation's name again? He must not want a cure for ALS if he hasn't been on Larry King with his wife and kid belaboring the point that he got a shit hand dealt to him.

immort rules


noll sux

Don't be so angry. Barb's love you :)

Anyone that takes Maddox at face value needs serious help. It's a fun site to read(one of my favorites), but isn't exactly filled with balanced commentary.

Even if it was for self preservation, reeves still did lots of good with charities, and was a good inspiration. Thats all that really matters. Plus there was that hilarious South Park episode about him and stem cells and Hack-Man.

Immort, it's 41-13 at the moment.

:(

Think I am in the wrong thread.

I saw the header and thought this was going to be a tribute to Janet Leigh, whose many films and television projects were all overshadowed by that single shocking shower scene in Hitchcock's "Psycho". That single scene did more to advance creative freedom within the movie industry than almost any other film of the era.

She was indeed an icon.

She's not a hero unless she starts a foundation. I'm sorry.


I need to start my guys when they play on MNF so i quit trolling boards instead of watching the game.

Saman got owned so i guess it was a good night.

If that scene was that influential, then wouldn't Hitchcock get the credit for it? Nothing against her, I just figure he had more to do with how good it was...

40 different camera angles for that shot. It is Hitch's scene, but because we see the actress (and in that scene, a tantalizing portion of the actress for the times), she sticks in our minds more than the man behind the camera.

This thread has been successfully jacked.

Its because you have to be rich and famous for anyone to give a fuck about you.
Well people feel like they know someone who is famous, and they kind of do. Whereas casualty numbers are generally pretty dry stuff - it's difficult to feel attached and saddened by the loss of an anonymous name, without knowing the person's story.

Christopher Reeves worked with the Steven Mcdonald foundation before his accident.Stephen McDonald was a NY City cop who was shot and paralyzed.

Actually, the "hero" aspect has more to do with his "not giving up" attitude, his drive to walk again, and the inspiration he's given others who suffer similar disabilities. He had the money to start a foundation to help all such people, but it was his drive to fight dismal odds that, to some, makes him a hero.There are hundreds and hundreds of people who do this every day: the Paralympics are full of them. It is a bit of human nature that we often don't notice how something like this can impact a life until it happens close to home.

Reeve got hurt riding a horse. It changed his life. This injury is no different than that suffered by people very day.

What Reeve had that most of these people was the OPPORTUNITY and MEANS to make himself a figurehead for his pet charity. He was famous and rich, had influence and contacts- he used them. So what? Many of the rich and famous have a pet charity- and some of them are down right crackpots, and support PETA and other such lunacy.

Reeve might have had a selfish desire to cure himself- which is fine. I can't fault him for it- that is what a free market democracy lets him do.

Being almost 20 years post injury para and having many friends who were Quads. I do mean "were" none of them lived pasted 10 years post injury. I stop voluteering for support groups in the rehab hospital because it became to hard to deal friends dying all the time. For all of his effort and hard work he didn't make his life better or last longer. If you had only 10 years to live what would you do? enjoy life day to day. I found reeve's effort mis-directed and unproductive. Oh and those new function he got? None of that was proof of anything. It takes 2 years to fine out what 99% of function you get back post injury, do to the trauma and swelling to healing. You also can get the last 1% up to 10 years later. He the claims what gave him the new function was bull.

As far as reeve's finding direction in his life with his foundation. Can you image a life of being a bright individaul, stuck in body that all you could do is watch and wait for someone to the basic function of life. Getting out of bed and ready for the day can take 2 hours, if you for go a shower? The foundation was about keeping busy and not think about the crap his life is.

Is he a hero? he was no more a hero then Willie Jay David Jerry and a number of others I knew. Reeve only lived in a better house while they live in nursing homes and crappy little apartments with special care or with the parents.

above post "most of these people.. " change to "most of these people DID NOT HAVE"