View Full Version : My nag about rep points (not to mods)
Buyza
07-08-2004, 12:17 PM
As many of you have seen you can now leave reputation points based on post. Now at first it sounded like a cool idea, people can leave you comments and feedback on how they feel about your post. The only problem now is so many people leaving feedback with no name or even comment. Why bother? I really think it is retarded that people leave comments and do not leave their name. That is such a punk move. Grow balls please? Even people who leave good feedback/comments should put their name so you know who at least likes what you post. Sorry if it sounds stupid, just hate having like -20 rep points with stupid little comments (AND SOME GOOD ONES!!!) and not knowing who said what (or for those who did not comment, what they had to say).
Fandros
07-08-2004, 02:19 PM
Bud, like I told someone else recently.
If yer going to go out in the middle of a raging lightning storm with a 20 foot steel rod, don't whine like a suprised child when you get hit by a few bolts.
Fandros
Buyza
07-08-2004, 02:26 PM
Well they are different instances in my opinion, but oh well. Still worth a rant!
Fandros
07-08-2004, 02:29 PM
Heh, still you hold tight to that steel rod eh? I think it's a curse of yer generation atm to be honest. Can't really blame you much as my exstepdaughters ( one 18 other 21) both like to dance with the devil...
Fandros
Anterak
07-08-2004, 03:27 PM
If yer going to go out in the middle of a raging lightning storm with a 20 foot steel rod, don't whine like a suprised child when you get hit by a few bolts.Only difference in yer analogy is that the "storm" came inside the house.
I think it's a curse of yer generation atm to be honest.Man my grand fathers were telling that to my parents when they were listening to the devil "rock n roll"!!
Sanchek
07-08-2004, 03:33 PM
I'd like to force a comment to submit them, when I get around to doing it. That might help some.
Speaking as someone who can see the names of everyone that leaves me rep, let me tell you that it still doesn't help much. You're right, it really is annoying to have a red dot in the list and no reason at all why.
Buyza
07-08-2004, 03:39 PM
Not just a comment, but it show their username too. I always thought mods did not like anonymous trolls, but this supports the use of being an anon baby.
Rybit
07-08-2004, 04:10 PM
I'll be working on the hack. We will have it return an error message if you leave nothing in the comments field. In addition, if you feel that a reputation point given to you is unfair, you may file an appeal to one of our administrators, who will check the database to find out more about it.
Sanchek
07-08-2004, 04:44 PM
That's got nothing to do with anonymous trolls. Maybe they just don't feel comfortable putting their name on their opinions. Just like some people prefer to lurk, rather than post a lot.
I ran through the database and glanced at the reps overall. I don't see any real pattern of abuse. There's positive and negative ones. Ones with comments and not.
As far as appeals... For the love of god, send those to Ryb. No way I'm getting in the middle of that stuff. :p
mirdorr
07-08-2004, 05:50 PM
Maybe they're just doing it to annoy him.
Buyza
07-08-2004, 06:20 PM
Not that I really care about my rep point status (im like -20 now), just nice to see if someone is going to leave me a bad rep point I can return the favor.
Sanchek
07-08-2004, 07:18 PM
I'd say that's as good a reason as any not to make it visible. That's not the point of the system. Use PMs for that.
Rybit
07-08-2004, 07:56 PM
Reputation comments are now officially required. The Ayonae Ro Server Comunity Board Trustees ("Tyrants") have passed the motion making comments required. Now that the path is cleared, please enter a comment for each reputation point you give, otherwise your request will be denied.
Is there some sort of penalty for negative rep points or is this all symantic?
Buyza
07-08-2004, 09:43 PM
Jsut got like 10 more negatives from this thread lol and most had no comment or had "1". I also was violated by a moderator.
Rybit
07-08-2004, 10:14 PM
Please do not abuse the system. If you are going to give a reputation, state a reason, otherwise we may need to turn off the system. There is only so many times we can give you another chance. Please don't ruin this for others who use the system legitimately.
If you have a problem with your reputation, the person to contact is me. I will evaluate your reputation, and if need be, I will adjust it if there is a reason to. I checked your records, Buyza, and I deleted the one reputation where you had "!" as your comment since the system was in place. I have also notified the party responsible for the short comment. If you feel you have a problem with your reputation send me a PM promptly, and I will examine your reputation record.
Palimax Sceleris
07-09-2004, 12:11 AM
Maybe, if you had a good reputation, this thread would be interesting.
LummusL
07-09-2004, 12:31 AM
If he had a good reputation this thread would be be nonexistant, boring or both. Don't be such a stick in the mud, otherwise people might try to feed you coal in hopes of getting rich next time you visit the bathroom.
Buyza
07-09-2004, 12:41 AM
My rep can not be that bad, or else I would not have any people dealing with me in a business nature.
Bowler
07-09-2004, 12:49 AM
My reputation rating is worse than Buyza54 I think hehe. I keep waiting for it to affect my posting abilities or take away my sig or something relevant.
Sanchek
07-09-2004, 12:54 AM
We can set up negative side-effects of low reputations, but I'm more interested in rewards for high reps instead. I doubt we'll do anything as a result of someone getting a low rep. The board really wouldn't be as much fun without the people who we love to hate.
I think the only "punishment" metric you'll see us use are the warnings in the automatic warn/ban system we've got installed.
Fandros
07-09-2004, 01:14 AM
Actually Weolf,
Folks will deal with the devil if it suits them.
This doesn't lend any amount of love for the debil, just means they use him to reach their ends.
You've come along Buy, and grown, but don't mix business with pleasure. You use folks and groups. Don't expect everyone to lub ya.
Fandros
Buyza
07-09-2004, 01:34 AM
Lol I am like -25 or 30 bowler.
Sanchek: Making any rewards/punishments based on how many people like you is...elren retarded.... :)
Fandros: Thanks appreciate the comments, but that is true in some ways I guess. Depends how you look at it. Either way my rep is a lot better than it seems heh. I have lots of people I talk to all the time that I have never done business with. Many of them in high end guilds. I guess elrens analogy of me to osama really hurt me though.
Sanchek
07-09-2004, 01:40 AM
Sanchek: Making any rewards/punishments based on how many people like you is...elren retarded....
See, that's just where you've misunderstood how the rep system is meant to be used.
Rybit
07-09-2004, 04:28 AM
reputation
n.
The general estimation in which a person is held by the public.
The state or situation of being held in high esteem.
A specific characteristic or trait ascribed to a person or thing: a reputation for courtesy.
Palimax Sceleris
07-09-2004, 07:30 AM
My rep can not be that bad, or else I would not have any people dealing with me in a business nature.Not exactly true. You're the only form of in-game for-cash selling this board puts up with. (And why, I'll never understand...) Your primary purpose on these boards, as best I can tell, has always been to make sure that people know you're available for their character sales and platinum needs.
Everything else has always been a distant second.
Take me, at work, for example. I have a reputation for being difficult to work with. I also have a reputation for getting things done faster smarter and cheaper than other people. Because of the things that I do, people choose to work with me REGARDLESS of my reputation as a sarcastic bastard.
Don't be such a stick in the mud, otherwise people might try to feed you coal in hopes of getting rich next time you visit the bathroom.Lummus, as always, you're welcome to sit under me next time I take a crap. May you get rich!
Shortyrez Starfury
07-09-2004, 07:51 AM
You've started 6 threads on the first page of NAG and have one thread specifically about you. You expect people to like you? I'm not picking, I'm just curious how you could be oblivious to the fact that a lot of people here really don't like you.
Thormir
07-09-2004, 08:17 AM
I guess elrens analogy of me to osama really hurt me though.No one with a shred of dignity should ever be hurt by comments from the Omnipotard.
Kein Bojangles
07-09-2004, 11:11 AM
lol Sanchek, <3 teh comment
deaath1
07-09-2004, 11:39 PM
You Ebay and most do not like it, you push the edge of the envelope quite well. This is fair but people will resent it.
If i was you I would make a thread asking for NEG rep points and wear it as a banner.
Erala
07-11-2004, 10:05 AM
I also was violated by a moderator.
Umm... I don't think you have any orifaces that weren't already violated at some point, and it really appeared you were enjoying it.
Buyza
07-11-2004, 02:12 PM
I'll be violated by sanchek anyday!
Chand01
07-14-2004, 04:20 PM
hey i just registered but i have something to say
if someone wants to lurk thats cool they dont have to do anything
i spend most of my time lurking
but i think if youre going to interact with the board in some way you should have to leave behind your name
if someone wants to lurk and remain anonymous thats cool they dont have to give reputation points
but just like posting a thread is guaranteed to leave your name up in the corner of it shouldnt the same go with leaving a rep point
lurking and shooting rep points from the shadows are 2 different things
one is anonymity the other is ignobility.
Bowler
07-15-2004, 03:55 PM
I got another bad reputation point for this thread, all it says is "FUCK". Anon systems are great. lol I got a good one that says "You cant be as bad as Buyza".
The best part is now that Im ONE point below ground lvl Im excluded from this game completely, I cant leave reputation either positive or negative. So ONE anon flamer can destroy this system completely.
I still have 3 from the test thread that supposedly was immune to reputation flags.
Sanchek
07-15-2004, 04:04 PM
No thread's immune from reputation. Where'd you get that from?
One person can't repeatedly neg you. They can only give so many per day and they have to give several to other users before hitting the same user again.
It can't be so bad. I get a lot of negatives, and I'm still over 60 (watch the negatives pour in now that I said that, I know).
Bowler
07-15-2004, 04:22 PM
I was sent a PM from one of the admins that said the Sandbox was not supposed to a place for reputation points. Im honestly just suprised that negatives with things like FUCK as the description are of any value. Anon stuff is lame.
Cados Evilsbane
07-15-2004, 04:40 PM
Ok here's the solution: stop making it such a big deal.
Fazin
07-15-2004, 04:56 PM
Don't tell me you really cared what "pieces of shit" thought about you in High School as well :/
wuwuwu i hav gud rep la~!
Bowler
07-15-2004, 05:05 PM
Where does it say I care? The bigger deal I make of it the more negatives I get. You clearly didnt read where my goal was to be the worst on the board.
People keep giving me positives too and I dont know why.
Buyza
07-15-2004, 05:14 PM
My goal is not to to be the worst on the board and I am far ahead :) People leave me wierd ass feedback. Luckily 10 of them were not counted due (came up grey in the window opposed to green) to the fact they were probably homosexuals.
Fazin
07-15-2004, 05:56 PM
Your previous post gave me the idea that you were annoyed by anon feedback, therefore caring.
It's an interesting system honestly, and I would imagine that there would be less feedback if it weren't an anon system. I like it the way it is.
Bowler
07-15-2004, 07:56 PM
Im pointing out how that the system encourages anon flamers to have a field day on a message board system that is supposed to not support anons. I am a dart board for every stupid person who wants to "get" me by using the rep system. Its a popularity contest and Im gonna play this little game the same way I always have .... by saying "FUCK IT". BTW I got 3 negative rep points just from my last post alone, nobody with the balls to leave a name though lol.
Crist0
07-15-2004, 10:01 PM
I am a dart board for every stupid person who wants to "get" me by using the rep system.
As are the rest of us.
I really don't understand..why does it bother anyone what their rep is?
Does it really matter that much how people on an internet board think of you?
Bowler
07-15-2004, 10:03 PM
If you bothered to finish reading my post you would see a clear answer to your question. Im posting in this thread for the same reason I mentioned before. It has the biggest return of negative rep points. 4 at this point.
Sanchek
07-15-2004, 10:54 PM
I can just set you to -2000 if you want, and save the rest of us the spam?
Buyza
07-15-2004, 10:56 PM
You can do that for me, cutie!
Sanchek
07-15-2004, 11:02 PM
I dunno. I kinda enjoy watching the progression take its natural course.
Bowler
07-15-2004, 11:06 PM
Damn is 2000 the bottom? LOL I dont have the stamina to sit around waiting for that.
Sanchek
07-15-2004, 11:07 PM
There is no bottom.
I'm surprised no one's hit 2 green dots or a red dot yet. I need to look up where the breakpoints are. Maybe I can adjust the scale for now, so there's more differentiation. I'd hate for you and Buyza to have to get grouped in with the wannabe negatives that only have -5 or something. :p
MarzMartini
07-15-2004, 11:37 PM
I'm surprised no one's hit 2 green dots or a red dot yet.
Everyone jump Sanchek's rep points! Send him to red dot hell!
Bowler
07-15-2004, 11:41 PM
Nobody is going to give the only person on the board who can see who left the points a bad rep lol.
Im KIDDING BTW.
Liper
07-15-2004, 11:58 PM
I did! Mainly was a test though
Buyza
07-16-2004, 12:57 AM
Yah wtf I am like -30 I hate being grouped with these other low level bitches. Even though I think only me and bowler have grey boxes atm :) I am actually suprised I do not have lower rep points though, I should have like -40 or 50 but some of people leaving me bad rep are those with their own shit so they do not count. How long does it take for a red dot?
Sanchek
07-16-2004, 03:07 AM
We'll probably make some higher user groups for high post counts with no warnings. Possible features of those include being able to see who left your reps on the list.
Tibbert
07-16-2004, 03:17 AM
Being able to see who left reps is good addition, but might work counter-productive because ppl will get into reputation wars which just involve someone giving you bad rep and you giving it back just because they gave it to you. Comment requirement is pointless, I can imagine most people leaving pointless bullshit like "!" or "idiot" just to meet the requirement, however there are ppl that leave good critism.
Bowler
07-16-2004, 12:03 PM
So far no one has left anything negative that was remotely constructive ... FUCK is the best Ive gotten cause it made me laugh.
Buyza
07-16-2004, 12:56 PM
I have got a few good ones like "you have a sandy vagina" "..I.." "cock biter" "I dont hate that you ebay I hate you" etc etc. Glad to hear that if I had positive rep points I could see who left those!
Sanchek
07-16-2004, 01:00 PM
No, I said you were being a sandy vagina. That's a lot different than having one.
Bowler
07-16-2004, 01:47 PM
Hahahahaha
Buyza
07-16-2004, 07:08 PM
Err I am sorry, have had so many more negatives since then I lost the comment :(
KalrikSoloe
07-19-2004, 08:50 PM
Buyza ill leave comments and ill tell you IT IS ME WHO SAID it dude you are still stupid acting like the little kid WEolf who never grew up which is what you are a lttle kid sitting at home with mommies credit card asking daddy how much of his next paycheck you can spend on eq. You like messing with me now weolf ?? you are gonna learn that acting like a kid here gets you nothing but flamed you started something you wont win so either apologize or prove you have real skill and quit ebaying im suprised you know how to ebay you act like such a child you make me wonder how you can even type laters all. buyza=weolf aka newb from old school and the noob in new school weolf= noob for life.
Buyza
07-19-2004, 08:58 PM
Yet again here is my post that I made on your other "flames to me" http://forums.ayonae.ro/showthread.php?p=66762#post66762 Top of page 5
As for the difference of this one, I work for my own money and only buy plat to resell it you moron. I did not buy plat until I ran out of selling my own supply I acquired from EC. You on the other hand have your parents pay for EQ as you are obviously 12 at best seeing as you can not type. Do you think I am going to learn anything from you seeing as you can flame so well and farm lodizal? Lol. You suck at EVERYTHING you stupid god damn newbie. I would win this arguement even if I did not post as you made your self look stupid enough. You say I act like such a child, but have you ever used the "preview post"? Check it out bud. Once again NO SHIT I AM WEOLF.
Anterak
07-22-2004, 12:27 PM
To get back on the subject of rep points, how do we know if we got an "up" or a "down"? The green square in the left in our "lastest reputation received" screen?
I got 2 entries there, one I'm almost sure it was a plus ;) , the other... The comment being a "!", I can't say. And both has this green square.
PS : This post was mainly made to show my new avatar. But an answer could be nice. :D
Sanchek
07-22-2004, 01:26 PM
If it's green, it's up. If it's red, it's down. If it's gray, the person that left the rep has <20 posts or <1 reputation and their hit didn't count either way.
Buyza
07-22-2004, 01:53 PM
Sanchek, I want to be -100 or -1000 already. Its to hard to get neg rep points the real way.
Sumamael
07-22-2004, 05:47 PM
Doh Nm me ~ Thanks Sanchek!
Sanchek
07-22-2004, 06:00 PM
You umm... just quoted the answer to your question.
Sumamael
07-22-2004, 09:31 PM
Doh, shoot me :eek:
I guess I need to learn to read :confused:
LummusL
08-04-2004, 11:51 PM
All the admin and mods have 50 plus rep points. Do you all give each other pats on the back daily to boost the counts?
Kivorn
08-05-2004, 06:31 AM
The only rep hit I've taken from a mod was when we tested the system out and Rybit hit me up with some positive love.
The rest has been from everyday users.
Sanchek
08-05-2004, 09:45 AM
Yeah, me too. My last ten are from random people.
If we wanted to cheat, it only takes about 15 seconds to log into the admin panel, look up a username, and manually adjust its reputation. As far as conspiracy theories go, that was a pretty crappy one. :p
Cados Evilsbane
08-05-2004, 11:05 AM
About the member rewards: Is the warning you mention something like, "Don't do that again or you'll be banned!" kind of thing or a "Please, don't do this again (like anon bad rep)" thing? :)
Sanchek
08-05-2004, 11:55 AM
The official warning system. If you get one, it sends you a PM automatically.
Sanchek
08-06-2004, 09:29 PM
The best rep hit comment I've ever received:
Even the hint of banning Buyza is approval!
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