http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0909/Ensign_receives_handwritten_confirmation_.html?sho wall

I wouldn't pay two cents to one of those corrupt corporate welfare tax money sucking health insurance companies. Guess I'll be in jail.

However...that being said. If we are given a comprehensive government option then I'm fine with compulsory health care insurance. Also, we need to look at the messenger here, John Ensign, is not known for upstanding service or of high moral values.

As opposed to Barney Frank and his prostitution ring ran out of his house?

Again this is stupidty by the govt. Forcing the issue before they fix the problems that caused the issue.

Chasing the effects instead of the cause. Lord was this the change we were looking forward to? ;(

You can't force folks to pay uncontrolled amounts of money a month to companies that are flat out of control.

GM cut the medical insurance on their retiree's then turned around and offered them a chance to keep it. As long as they paid 1300 a month for it.

What a crock of shit, and yes my Dad paid it till he was able to find a better option. 43 years with a company and the insurance companies can play that card....

Pssst Obama , right your ship and refocus on the real issue instead of what your handlers and the fucked up far left tell you is the right thing to do to keep the polls happy....please.

Fandros et all, this OBVIOUSLY isn't a law so wait until it actually is something until you start to piss vinegar.

There is talk of a subsidy to cover health care costs for the poor, or an inexpensive public option. These would need everyone to be covered to eliminate us paying DOUBLE at hospitals like we do now in order to cover the uninsured. Then there would be penalties and fines, and failure to pay said penalties could result in jail time, which makes sense if the government is going to pay for your health care if you aren't lazy enough to sign up for it. Much like liability car insurance being required, the requirement for "them" have health care so I and YOU don't have to pay for it makes sense ... unless you like paying for people who don't have health care now. And I know you don't.

Mandated Coverage works if there is a Public Option. If no public option, you wont see mandated coverage. period.

Yes.. you must to have health insurance.. and guess what that fine if you don't have insurance goes to... BUYING YOU INSURANCE.

If you cant afford it.. hello, Medicaid.

I really don't see the problem here. People without insurance are penalizing the rest of us with insurance as it is. They drive up our premiums and reduce the level of our care. Why in the hell do you want to allow people do that? So yes.. there is a mandate and its a good thing.

I have no problem with a mandate IF the insurance industry is better regulated, and does not continue to be an industry that keeps charging more money but wants to be able to continue a practice of not providing to all the services for which premiums are paid.

As soon as the insurance company's are not allowed to dictate prices and coverage then there will be some real change.

Maybe Texas has the answer...

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/28/thousands-texans-health/

Maybe Texas has the answer...

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/28/thousands-texans-health/


Not sure what Texas has to do with the medical people providing a free clinic, other than being a state with the highest number of uninsured. Every time one of these medical clinics is conducted in the U.S. it serves to reinforce the need for a public option.

Not sure what Texas has to do with the medical people providing a free clinic, other than being a state with the highest number of uninsured. Every time one of these medical clinics is conducted in the U.S. it serves to reinforce the need for a public option.

Texas has to do with it as the state government is one of the most vocal against the need for reform. An irony issue.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-healthcare-canada27-2009sep27,0,5111855.story

WOW, you mean that she will have to travel here to get the operation? Research it, her Canadian plan will pay for it even if it is done here. The shills spill forth today in droves.

You just do not get it do ya? You go ahead and wait your 1 1/2 years for service... Heil Obama!

Mandated Coverage works if there is a Public Option. If no public option, you wont see mandated coverage. period.

Well, it looks like we'll find out soon enough. http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/29/senate.public.option/index.html

The Onion got it right:

http://ayonae.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=435&stc=1&d=1254266794

Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, if the public option was as great as they were making it out to be ... there really wouldn't be a need for other health care options. But without ever seeing what it could have been, you really have to appreciate how invested the health care industry and their lobbying efforts have been on this issue.

The Public Option isn't that great. What it does is establish a baseline.

It creates a choice that people can choose, or not, that sets the very bottom price for adequate coverage. The coverage itself would probably suck, but it would hold down prices and drive up service at the same time.


Heil Obama!
This doesnt end well for you yknow. All this overheated hyperbole and crazy talk is in end going to keep driving people away from the right. Everytime one of you idiots goes out in public with a Obama=Hitler sign, or launches some crazy accusation, the dial moves just a little to the left.
You are destroying your own ideology in the most bizarre case of political cannibalism I have ever seen. Enjoy your meal.

Single payer is what it should be. Public option was just the compromise.

This doesnt end well for you yknow. All this overheated hyperbole and crazy talk is in end going to keep driving people away from the right. Everytime one of you idiots goes out in public with a Obama=Hitler sign, or launches some crazy accusation, the dial moves just a little to the left.


Care to explain why this didn't happn when Bush was equated to Hitler? The country didn't 'dial' to the right every time we saw a moveon.org protester with the same type of poster.

One would think you don't approve of the same tactics being applied, now that the glove is on the other hand. However, I can't seem to recall your outrage when the message was "Heil, Bush!"

Sorry for the hijacking.

Probably because there is a huge difference in reforming health care insurance and:

1) Stating the constitution is just a piece of paper
2) Advocating torture of enemy combatants
3) Ignoring the Geneva Conventions
4) Removal of 4th amendment rights
5) removal of 1st amendment rights
6) Creating a dept of homeland security (I wonder if Nazi Germany had a DHS)
7) Un-provoked Invasion of a sovereign nation
8) Having children brought to the Whitehouse and arranged by the Whitehouse to sing your praises for a non-response to a national tragedy.
9) Sending Halliburton and Blackwater to New Orleans in place of....


The list can go on and on....

The Public Option isn't that great. What it does is establish a baseline.

It creates a choice that people can choose, or not, that sets the very bottom price for adequate coverage. The coverage itself would probably suck, but it would hold down prices and drive up service at the same time.



This doesnt end well for you yknow. All this overheated hyperbole and crazy talk is in end going to keep driving people away from the right. Everytime one of you idiots goes out in public with a Obama=Hitler sign, or launches some crazy accusation, the dial moves just a little to the left.
You are destroying your own ideology in the most bizarre case of political cannibalism I have ever seen. Enjoy your meal.



Well...4 out of five bills voted on passed "The Public Option" so it's at a 4-1 record so far.

Huh... Getting worse by the day for ya there rove....

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform

Sanchek, when they voted down the amendment for the Public Option, they also voted down mandated health care coverage.

A politician who speaks the truth

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What a blowhard.

If he cared as much about health care as getting his face on TV, he would've debated those conservative counterpoints like a grownup. Instead, all he was doing was yelling over anyone that wasn't stroking him, like Bill O'Reilly on the rag.

Only a matter of time. There is a flip side to every coin.

The sad thing is "Republicans want you to die" might be the message that breaks through. That would be a goddamn shame. It would validate all this horseshit.

The problem my friends, above and beyond anything else, is that politics have been reduced to "What Sells". Id love for these assholes to be able to understand the concept of "Res Publica"

What a blowhard.

If he cared as much about health care as getting his face on TV, he would've debated those conservative counterpoints like a grownup. Instead, all he was doing was yelling over anyone that wasn't stroking him, like Bill O'Reilly on the rag.


What a crock of shit... He sounded sane as hell, didn't speak over anyone more then they spoke over him, and he made valid points.

Comparing him to Joe Wilson is fucking ludicrous.

Maybe I'm just spoiled by listening to more NPR lately, but ~1:58, ~2:08, ~2:14, ~2:22, and ~3:40 were all times in the first third that he talked over other people in order to avoid their rational points. ~8:00 was particularly egregious.

He is from Florida though.

Its pretty obvious what this is about. And seeing what he has done in the immediate follow up proves it.

He saw Joe Wilson raise over $1,000,000 from calling the President a liar. Grayson is locked in a tough race in a pretty wildly divided district. He needs money...
http://www.actblue.com/page/standbygrayson

$100,000 in 48 hours for saying stupid Tea Party type shit. Pretty easy money. Take a Republican talking point... change the names, flip it.... profit.

This type of garbage does not see a single dime of my money.