http://www.obamacrimes.com/

After a 5 day research it seems that there is some merrit to this. Discuss!

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80931

Alan keys a black man who ran for independant party files lawsuit claiming obama is not qaulified.

He also has the point he would of got the black vote if Obama had been disqaulified.

You're an idiot.

Discuss!

You're an idiot.

Discuss!
go suck another cock.

This supreme court has already decided not to hear any cases on this, so its moot. End of thread.

'go suck another cock.'

- Why? When your mother's tastes so good.

Ooooohhhhhhhh, you so nasty!

ban time

Ban him please already?

This is old news, and was already disproven.

This has already been discussed on these forums and though it was an interesting discussion the Courts deemed fit to let it ride.

Oh and yes I echo the sentiments of the rest, ban time.

But, but...if he gets banned, I won't have anyone on ignore. :(

You won't know he's not there to be ignored so it'll be the same!

What's particularly alarming, and confirming of Halo's orignal assessment of this individual, is after five days of research he missed looking at Snopes, here's part of their posting:

" The item quoted above posits that Barack Obama does not qualify as a natural-born citizen of the U.S. because the law in effect at the time he was born specified that "If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16." Since Barack Obama only had one U.S. citizen parent (his mother), and his mother had not been residing in the U.S. for at least five years after the age of 16 when Barack was born (because she herself was only 18 at the time), then he's not a natural-born citizen.

A few facets of this claim immediately jump out as being far-fetched: first, that a sitting U.S. Senator who has already spent a good deal of time and money securing his party's nomination for the presidency would suddenly be discovered as ineligible due to an obscure provision of U.S. law; and second, that U.S. law would essentially penalize someone who would otherwise qualify for natural-born citizenship status simply because his mother was too young. The fact is, the qualifications listed in the example quoted above are moot because they refer to someone who was born outside the United States. Since Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, they do not apply to him.

The Fourteenth Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States." Since Hawaii is part of the United States, even if Barack Obama's parents were both non-U.S. citizens who hadn't even set foot in the country until just before he was born, he'd still qualify as a natural-born citizen.

Some have claimed that Barack Obama's Hawaiian birthplace doesn't qualify him as a natural-born citizen because Hawaii was not yet a state when he was born. This claim is wrong: Hawaii was admitted as the 50th state almost two years before Barack Obama's birth there (21 August 1959 for statehood vs. 4 August 1961 for Obama's birthdate).

Some outdated versions of this item conclude by stating that "It should be demanded that Obama produce his 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate," but in fact his campaign made an image of that document (http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg) available on the Internet back in mid-2008.

No, no, don't call for the Ban Stick (tm) - doesn't anyone else deem weeks of fun?

No, no, don't call for the Ban Stick (tm) - doesn't anyone else deem weeks of fun?
Banning me won't ever change fandros your many of you from your rep of cock sucking!:eek:

What's particularly alarming, and confirming of Halo's orignal assessment of this individual, is after five days of research he missed looking at Snopes, here's part of their posting:

" The item quoted above posits that Barack Obama does not qualify as a natural-born citizen of the U.S. because the law in effect at the time he was born specified that "If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16." Since Barack Obama only had one U.S. citizen parent (his mother), and his mother had not been residing in the U.S. for at least five years after the age of 16 when Barack was born (because she herself was only 18 at the time), then he's not a natural-born citizen.

A few facets of this claim immediately jump out as being far-fetched: first, that a sitting U.S. Senator who has already spent a good deal of time and money securing his party's nomination for the presidency would suddenly be discovered as ineligible due to an obscure provision of U.S. law; and second, that U.S. law would essentially penalize someone who would otherwise qualify for natural-born citizenship status simply because his mother was too young. The fact is, the qualifications listed in the example quoted above are moot because they refer to someone who was born outside the United States. Since Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, they do not apply to him.

The Fourteenth Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States." Since Hawaii is part of the United States, even if Barack Obama's parents were both non-U.S. citizens who hadn't even set foot in the country until just before he was born, he'd still qualify as a natural-born citizen.

Some have claimed that Barack Obama's Hawaiian birthplace doesn't qualify him as a natural-born citizen because Hawaii was not yet a state when he was born. This claim is wrong: Hawaii was admitted as the 50th state almost two years before Barack Obama's birth there (21 August 1959 for statehood vs. 4 August 1961 for Obama's birthdate).

Some outdated versions of this item conclude by stating that "It should be demanded that Obama produce his 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate," but in fact his campaign made an image of that document (http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg) available on the Internet back in mid-2008.


A certification of live birth is not a birth certificate and the one he has posted has been shown to be a complete fraud.

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977544448

Supreme court to rehear the care Jan 16.

If it is disproved why do they bother with hear bergs charges?

God people who quote snopes crack me up. Obama is a Kenyan... period.. But will that change anything? Nope. The courst arn't going to touch that slice of truth with a ten foot poll.

God people who quote snopes crack me up. Obama is a Kenyan... period.. But will that change anything? Nope. The courst arn't going to touch that slice of truth with a ten foot poll.

I agree with that, they won't.

It still won't change the fact that anything he does or signs won't be legit.

The truth will come out some day.

You're a liberal apologist Osgi, Obama is a robot from the future.

I thought you are what your mother is?

I thought you are what your mother is?
Want some more kool-aid rover?

Wow. Elren again? Christ. Go away.

He won't Cloud, he has an overwhelming need to be abused. He can no longer count on getting the TLC at home that he needs.

His parents ( who only wanted the best for their hudge Arnold) kicked him to the curb, this was shortly after some sort of hazing incident at his local Militant Cub Scout basic training unit. See he was a Drill Sgt who just couldn't keep his hands of the smaller Cub scouts.

So in a flurry of activity he was summarily dismissed. He's gone so far as to apply to join the Brownie Special Cookie Paratroopers but they won't have him either as he's not macho enough for thier mission requirements.

He'll keep on coming back, injecting his low brow ( witness his grammar and spelling ) opinions amongst those of us who can walk erect until the 2 braincells left in his head finally decide to distance themselves from his insanity.

I'm rather enjoying it.

Sadly so am I, I should feel guilty for it tho. It's akin to tripping that kid in Walmart who is wearing that helmet and joyfully laughing at everything around him.

Okay, so maybe it's not equal to that as they kid in the Helmet obviously has a better life, but still it's evil ;(

A better life, and a safer head!

He won't Cloud, he has an overwhelming need to be abused. He can no longer count on getting the TLC at home that he needs.

His parents ( who only wanted the best for their hudge Arnold) kicked him to the curb, this was shortly after some sort of hazing incident at his local Militant Cub Scout basic training unit. See he was a Drill Sgt who just couldn't keep his hands of the smaller Cub scouts.

So in a flurry of activity he was summarily dismissed. He's gone so far as to apply to join the Brownie Special Cookie Paratroopers but they won't have him either as he's not macho enough for thier mission requirements.

He'll keep on coming back, injecting his low brow ( witness his grammar and spelling ) opinions amongst those of us who can walk erect until the 2 braincells left in his head finally decide to distance themselves from his insanity.
Fanny is cum-drunk.

How many dump trucks have you swallowed in you lifetime in eq?

32841325143751437513585089

probably to low a number aye?

score!

i cannot understand, however i may try, that he is still not banned. i mean, really.

or atleast have his posting rights disabled outside of the sandbox

Fanny is cum-drunk.

How many dump trucks have you swallowed in you lifetime in eq?

32841325143751437513585089

probably to low a number aye?

See Halo, when brought to task his best retorte is one that the kid in Walmart with the helmet would be too witty to use.

You're great fun Elren, stupid and inbred, but great fun all the same.

ignore doesn't work when you quote him. It doesn't help my network nazis allowing me to post here with some of the crap he's spewing. random words don't trigger things but continual strings of crap like his posts trigger them :( just when I thought I'd convinced him this site was ok =\

Os and Elren are cut from the same cloth. Instead presenting evidence they spout something fed to them by their idiot demi-gods and when presented with any real evidence resort to vulgar name calling.

None of this changes the fact that Obama won in a landslide. You'll have to face that for real here in a few weeks. Though I'm not fully sold on him, as I'm not sold on any politician in our system at this point, he was better than an administration that has stuck us with two unwinnable wars, an economy in the toilet, multi-billion dollar bailouts of the rich, and a trillion dollar budget deficit.

Wailing of the <insert random insult here> is not going to change the fact that Obama was born of an American woman in Hawaii...end of discussion.

ignore doesn't work when you quote him. It doesn't help my network nazis allowing me to post here with some of the crap he's spewing. random words don't trigger things but continual strings of crap like his posts trigger them :( just when I thought I'd convinced him this site was ok =\

Ban Elren...I don't want to trade Fild for him :mad:

It won't happen again Fil, I apologize. I'd rather lose Elren than to lose Fil.

As it so happens the nature of Elren's gutter toilet mouth will surely get this site banned by my work as well soon. The Govt is not very forgiving in this regard ;(

i cannot understand, however i may try, that he is still not banned. i mean, really.
because your a piece of Euro trash born in a hostel?

Os and Elren are cut from the same cloth. Instead presenting evidence they spout something fed to them by their idiot demi-gods and when presented with any real evidence resort to vulgar name calling.

None of this changes the fact that Obama won in a landslide. You'll have to face that for real here in a few weeks. Though I'm not fully sold on him, as I'm not sold on any politician in our system at this point, he was better than an administration that has stuck us with two unwinnable wars, an economy in the toilet, multi-billion dollar bailouts of the rich, and a trillion dollar budget deficit.

Wailing of the <insert random insult here> is not going to change the fact that Obama was born of an American woman in Hawaii...end of discussion.

What kind of kool-aid do you prefere Ailwon cherry or grape?;)

because your a piece of Euro trash born in a hostel?

Anyone see the irony with a right-wing Christian nutter using someone being born in an inn as an insult?

See Halo, when brought to task his best retorte is one that the kid in Walmart with the helmet would be too witty to use.

You're great fun Elren, stupid and inbred, but great fun all the same.
I not the one livin in Utah, you stupid interbred mormon.:p

Anyone see the irony with a right-wing Christian nutter using someone being born in an inn as an insult?

Kelarz u been living in a hostel too?

haha, LOL

I'm rolling....

Os and Elren are cut from the same cloth. Instead presenting evidence they spout something fed to them by their idiot demi-gods and when presented with any real evidence resort to vulgar name calling.

None of this changes the fact that Obama won in a landslide. You'll have to face that for real here in a few weeks. Though I'm not fully sold on him, as I'm not sold on any politician in our system at this point, he was better than an administration that has stuck us with two unwinnable wars, an economy in the toilet, multi-billion dollar bailouts of the rich, and a trillion dollar budget deficit.

Wailing of the <insert random insult here> is not going to change the fact that Obama was born of an American woman in Hawaii...end of discussion.

Afraid I need to step up here and contest your comparison of Os and the fruitcake. Os has always been straightforward in his position, and although he has engaged in some pissing contests (as most of us have) he has never stooped to the childish antics of the fruitcake. I actually appreciate having someone from the one pole to counterbalance the one or two we have from the other extreme, seeing most of us have voiced more centrist positions more often than not.

I have no problem with Os maintaining his opinions and attitudes and tossing them out here for discussion, or escalated debate. But the fruitcake is simply here for attention, and has nothing to offer.

This may shock you, you poor dumb git, but not everyone ( including myself ) is a mormon.

Not that it's bad to be mormon mind you, I know loads of really good ones.

Just wanted to , yet again, abuse you due to your sheer stupidity.

This may shock you, you poor dumb git, but not everyone ( including myself ) is a mormon.

Not that it's bad to be mormon mind you, I know loads of really good ones.

Just wanted to , yet again, abuse you due to your sheer stupidity.

You got that covered for all enternity, pal.
You have already admitted God's Eternal Wrath is opon you!:)

Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.

haha

Rollin, rollin, rollin, Raw Hide!

I see no reason to ban him if we can refrain from quoting him. Of course if ignore also ignored his quotes then it wouldn't matter. Don't feel you need to give me up for him, I can just wait to view these froums at home rather than work. :)

Thanks for the wanting to trade asshat for me though <3 yous.

Os and Elren are cut from the same cloth. Instead presenting evidence they spout something fed to them by their idiot demi-gods and when presented with any real evidence resort to vulgar name calling.

None of this changes the fact that Obama won in a landslide. You'll have to face that for real here in a few weeks. Though I'm not fully sold on him, as I'm not sold on any politician in our system at this point, he was better than an administration that has stuck us with two unwinnable wars, an economy in the toilet, multi-billion dollar bailouts of the rich, and a trillion dollar budget deficit.

Wailing of the <insert random insult here> is not going to change the fact that Obama was born of an American woman in Hawaii...end of discussion.


While I think the same of you Ail.. A lock step liberal who gets his sound bites from Randi Rhodes and spews forth lies a propaganda with out any facts I NEVER use vulgarity and call you guys names. El and I are not one and the same.

It's so sad Elren, you're akin to that poor kid I mentioned earlier.

You're far too stupid to see that everyone, and I mean everyone has had a turn at you and you're such an abuse whore you can no longer register it.

Or is it we're speaking so far above you it's as if you are listening to a Mensa meeting and hearing nothing but the sounds the adults in Charlie Brown make?

poor kid, i really do pity you.

I must admit Osi is on a higher level than elren.

I think 60% of what Os posts is just to piss people off. I get it.

I think Elren is just a poor copy of Osgilliath.

Ugh, wow, thats kind of sad, eh?

That hurt.

They say imitation is the highest form of flattery.

Well, virus and cancer cells are known for their ability to imitate as well too.

Heh, and I remember when people called ME a troll. Elren has redefined the word.

Os, I apologize. You have never reached the level inanity and sheer ignorance Elren has...you clearly aren't similar in that respect.

I have listened to Randi Rhodes, once, and found no more entertaining than listening to Rush. Biased info is biased info no matter which side you lean to.

...and as far a facts go...you wouldn't know one unless right wing lie spewers fed it to you. :devil

What ever libtard:p

The "birther's" latest case was thrown out of court this week:
Judge assails cases doubting Obama's citizenship
By NEDRA PICKLER – 1 day ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge on Thursday threw out a lawsuit questioning President Barack Obama's citizenship, lambasting the case as a waste of the court's time and suggesting the plaintiff's attorney may have to compensate the president's lawyer.

In an argument popular on the Internet and taken seriously practically nowhere else, Obama's critics argue he is ineligible to be president because he is not a "natural-born citizen" as the Constitution requires.
In response last summer, Obama's campaign posted his Hawaiian birth certificate on its Web site. But the lawsuit argues it is a fake and that Obama was actually born in his father's homeland of Kenya, even though Hawaiian officials have said the document is authentic.

"This case, if it were allowed to proceed, would deserve mention in one of those books that seek to prove that the law is foolish or that America has too many lawyers with not enough to do," U.S. District Judge James Robertson said in his written opinion.

The lawsuit didn't even use Obama's legal name but called him "Barry Soetoro," the name he went by while attending elementary school in Indonesia. It's one of many that has been filed claiming Obama is ineligible to serve as president.

Robertson ordered plaintiff's attorney John Hemenway of Colorado Springs, Colo., to show why he hasn't violated court rules barring frivolous and harassing cases and shouldn't have to pay Obama's attorney, Bob Bauer, for his time arguing that the case should be thrown out. Source (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jvhtmoNEnyP1Bu6Ol4zJsN94mlewD96O5TV03)
Text of dismissal of case (http://www.scribd.com/doc/13033154/Hollisterdismissal)

Obama's mother is a US citizen, which would make him a citizen no matter where he was born.

Bill Clinton had the Vince Foster "murder." George W. Bush had 9/11 Truth. And the new administration has brought with it a new culture of conspiracy: The Birthers.

{snip}

A quick reality check, before we dive in: The challenges to Obama's eligibility have no grounding in evidence. Courts across the country have summarily rejected the movement's theory — that Obama can't be a citizen because his father wasn't —as a misreading of U.S. law; and Hawaii officials, along with contemporary birth announcements, affirm that Obama was in fact born in Honolulu in 1961.

But belief in obscure, discredited theories is a constant in a country with a history of partisan division — a country in which, a recent survey showed, 34 percent of the public believes in UFOs and 24 percent believes in witches.

{snip}

The opportunity for the White House? It's one of which some conservatives are sharply aware — that the Birthers may discredit Obama's more mainstream enemies.

"At some level, they're not that bad to have around because it reminds people that under the mainstream conservative press there's this bubbling up of really irrational hatred for the guy," said former Clinton White House press secretary Jake Siewert.

Siewert recalled that his predecessor, Mike McCurry, sometimes deliberately called on a conservative radio host, Lester Kinsolving, just to undercut more mainstream criticism of the president.

"He would let them ask a question specifically to take the heat off the more legitimate line of questioning, maybe, and remind people that there were people out there who really had some wacko views," Siewert recalled.

Conservatives see that hazard.

The conservative talk show host Michael Medved recently referred to the movement's leaders as "crazy, nutburger, demagogue, money-hungry, exploitative, irresponsible, filthy conservative imposters" who are "the worst enemy of the conservative movement."

"It makes us look weird. It makes us look crazy. It makes us look demented. It makes us look sick, troubled, and not suitable for civilized company," he mourned.

One of the lead anti-Obama lawyers, Orly Taitz, a California dentist with a degree from an online law school, promptly threatened to sue Medved for defamation. Taitz, whose clients include soldiers challenging Obama's citizenship, has called on her blog's readers to "fight these communist Nazi thugs and hoodlums that took over our government," and told POLITICO that the wide refusal to take her case seriously is "totalitarian."

{snip}

Others imagine that Obama was smuggled into the country as an infant, a claim contradicted by state records and contemporaneous birth announcements in two Honolulu papers.

{snip}

The movement has its occasional moments in the sun. When Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy in Media hinted darkly at citizenship questions at the Conservative Political Action Conference, he was loudly applauded, and the clip of his speech circulated with equal speed among birth certificate theorists and liberal activists. Source (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0209/19450.html)
CPAC is where the loony fringe of the GOP meets, so they invite quacks like Limbaugh to agitate their masses. My translation of Medved's remarks are "oh crap, they see just how crazy we are." Here's a link (http://freecharlotte.wordpress.com/2009/02/09/the-philip-j-berg-that-citizen-wells-doesnt-want-to-blog-about/) with a video of Phil Berg (the lawyer behind this and another suit like this) who tried to sue the bush administration for planning and executing the 911 attacks. It has himself, speaking in his own words, why he believed it was perpetrated by the bush administration. One fisking of berg's arguments (http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/2008/10/did-obama-becom.html).

I claim that the "birthers" are, at their roots, racists. Their sole motivation for claiming Obama isn't American is that he isn't white. If you want to monitor white supremacists and how they've been infiltrating at least one party, I'd recommend reading Orcinus (http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/). The barking heads of the right wing media circus routinely advocate killing liberals, and occasionally some mentally deranged individual goes off and does so. David Neiwert is a freelance journalist who has been covering white supremacists and other hate groups (including media hate personalities like coulter, malkin and savage) for years.

In an argument popular on the Internet and taken seriously practically nowhere else,

Thats a great line. :)

Just like the crazies who believe in the fake moon landing and 9/11 truthers, people who believe this stuff aren't going to care about things like "facts," "reality," or a "court ruling." They'll just keep on insisting its true while covering their ears.

Wow just wow. Some people are hopeless.

whoa whoa whoa DiscW, i dont beleive in teh fake moon, i do beleive holocaust happened, but 9/11 evidence is pretty hardcore..

whoa whoa whoa DiscW, i dont beleive in teh fake moon, i do beleive holocaust happened, but 9/11 evidence is pretty hardcore..

Only because you want to buy into it. /chuckle

Hince the hook to such crazy b/s.

John Roberts to accept eligibility petition..

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=91763

ZOMG!!!!, you mean the Obama presidency is really a complicated plot hatched by OBL an Al Qiada in the early 60's to subvert God fearing America to Muslim influences???

Couldnt be that he agreed to read her briefs(not bring before the court mind you) in an attemp to placate the nutjob that "drove all night and thousands of miles" to ambush him at a speaking engagment that had nothing to do with fringe lunatic delusions.