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Kelraz Bladesinger
11-04-2008, 09:29 PM
Ohio for Obama
Pennsylvania for Obama

Virginia, North Carolina, Florida all close

:D

Jedd Corpse
11-04-2008, 09:32 PM
Woooohoooo!!!!! !%)u!%&!m@)*$%v@!)*%cmn!@)%c

Thormir
11-04-2008, 11:05 PM
Just stopping by to congratulate Barack zomgHussein Obama on his inevitable victory. Cheers.

Jedd Corpse
11-04-2008, 11:05 PM
CNN: OBAMA TO BE NEXT PRESIDENT (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/election.president/index.html)

Cados Evilsbane
11-04-2008, 11:06 PM
Now we'll see if he's really all he is cracked up to be

Nekko1
11-04-2008, 11:36 PM
Amen to that Cados.

Elemak the Enchanter
11-04-2008, 11:48 PM
I hope to God he isn't just another gasbag like that cunt Pelosi. All we heard about was change in 2006 and all she did was continue to pass along Bush's bullshit.

Bylimet Spiritwalker
11-04-2008, 11:59 PM
Was logged into WOW for a bit, and as soon as McCain was giving his concession speech some douchebag was starting it up in Trade channel that someone had taken a shot at Obama.

Sad that there are still so many sick fucks around.

Kanyli
11-05-2008, 12:07 AM
I don't think he's perfect, but I think he was the better of two choices, and has the potential to be a great leader. Beyond that, the patriot in me is almost in tears at what this country just did - having seen the LA riots (on TV), the King beatings, the OJ racism, I never would have believed we'd have a black president in my lifetime. For one night at least, before we rip him apart on this forum (that is, after all, what we do to authority), the romantic in me wants to enjoy what just happened.

Nekko1
11-05-2008, 12:12 AM
Problem is there will always be sick fucks ! Its genetics,science vs gods design.


Im glad the politics are over, ( so to speak ) people will go back to there gaming jobs chores ect then in 3 more years we can all point fingers again and talk about what went right or wrong. I just hope it keeps getting better I' ve been fortunate the last 8 -12 years and hope to continue to be until I can retire.

I hope John Lennon was right.

DiscW
11-05-2008, 12:38 AM
Amazing

velvetsilence
11-05-2008, 02:18 AM
For one night at least, before we rip him apart on this forum (that is, after all, what we do to authority), the romantic in me wants to enjoy what just happened.

Amen Brother!!! for tonight I rejoice! Tomorrow I turn a critical eye and will hold him accountable for every move.

I did make good on my only campaign promise wich i made back in january. wich was if Obama pulled this off i would dance in the streets.

So i danced from my front door 8 blocks to my watering hole were i hugged and rejoiced with my favorite bartender :D

Don't laugh shes built like Tyson, I dare you to walk in and call her a Liberal wussie!

ainwein
11-05-2008, 02:45 AM
Just got home. Took an hour and a half to find a cab.

Was in front of the White House for about an hour. There were THOUSANDS of people. It was one of the most surreal moments of my life.

Major streets in DC were shut down. All you could hear was constant honking, screaming and shouting. It was either 'OBAMA OBAMA" or "U-S-A". I imagine this is what New York was like immediately following 9/11.

I have some pictures and video that I will try to post tomorrow. It was truly an amazing experience.

I'm so proud of our country. :o

Rybit
11-05-2008, 03:18 AM
Looks like I'm not moving out of the country, after all.

Sixee
11-05-2008, 07:31 AM
Now we'll see if he's really all he is cracked up to be

I have the same attitude. If he makes good on everything, then more power to him.

I wonder if he'll face the same scrutiny as Bush has, if events follow a similar thread....?

Bylimet Spiritwalker
11-05-2008, 07:56 AM
His speech last night brought a tear to my eye and a swelling in the chest, and I cannot recall a similar reaction on an election night since I have been old enough to take part in this process.

Taleren Bloodsong
11-05-2008, 07:58 AM
I don't think he's perfect, but I think he was the better of two choices, and has the potential to be a great leader. Beyond that, the patriot in me is almost in tears at what this country just did - having seen the LA riots (on TV), the King beatings, the OJ racism, I never would have believed we'd have a black president in my lifetime. For one night at least, before we rip him apart on this forum (that is, after all, what we do to authority), the romantic in me wants to enjoy what just happened.

I had a tear in my eye when it was formally announced at about 11:05 EST last night. I was both proud and humbled. It's amazing how far as a country we have come from 1865. We still have far to go to thwart bigotry and racism, but this may have been the biggest hurdle since Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation.

I was very impressed with McCain's concession speech, both in the congratulatory tone and in the fact he calmed the boos. As I told my wife, if he'd been like that for the last nine months, the results last night may have been different.

Taleren Bloodsong
11-05-2008, 08:02 AM
Unfortunately I fell asleep immediately before Obama's speech, as in during the commercial break right before it :(

fildien
11-05-2008, 08:36 AM
His speech last night brought a tear to my eye and a swelling in the chest, and I cannot recall a similar reaction on an election night since I have been old enough to take part in this process.


Leah and I both had the same reaction. But I also teared up listening to McCain's speech. Both are great men and I look forward to seeing how things move on now.

It is sad when Leah's parents are so upset by McCain's loss that they won't even talk to her. She called her parents this AM like she does every day and her dad wouldn't even talk to her and her mom was so mad she was arguing with Leah. Both are recently retired and both have it in their heads that Obama is going to take their 401ks and give it to poor black people. I have no clue where they have that gotten that from but they are adamant about it. They are pissed at Leah b/c she voted for Obama how in the hell do you mend the country and divide when such a gap exists in your own family? I hope we can move past this; it's crazy.

Taleren Bloodsong
11-05-2008, 08:49 AM
I just watched Obama's speech. I thought it was excellent.

Nydia Ywalmoriel
11-05-2008, 09:22 AM
It was a very good speech, stirring, conciliatory, and Presidential, and the sea of people, many of whom had tears in their eyes, at Grant Park said it all. As someone who has personally gone from having been born in Selma, Al, in 1963 to having been a Jesse Jackson supporter in 1988 (and, sadly, the lone white delegate of seventeen from that district caucus) to having been suspicious and cynical about the relatively young man out of nowhere with such suspiciously smooth oratory skills, it was an awesome thing to see him up on that podium (and to see Jackson in the audience with tears in his eyes), and to hear so many elements of Jackson's own message of hope and motivation wash over an audience that was finally bruised enough, insulted enough, hungry enough, to embrace it. The strength of that tide was a bit frightening, as well as inspiring to watch; truly, a page has turned in American history (and to Bise, that was the point of L2 posting the Whitman poem :) ).

And, sadly, like Leah's parents, my own parents are horrified at the turn of events (my sister doesn't even believe he's a citizen and ranted about this a while) and did not want to speak to me at first when I called (about unrelated matters) last night because they were so upset and feared I had called to gloat. I can't describe how irrational those fears are (especially in light of what a ruin the last administration has made of our country in nearly every area) but they are very real; and judging by the emphasis he placed on conciliatory elements in last night's speech, Obama is well aware of this groundswell of fear as well and I was glad to see him address it.

Late for work, but it is going to be interesting seeing the energy on campus today...

Regards,
Nydia

Taleren Bloodsong
11-05-2008, 09:54 AM
Both of my parents, who were both born in West Virginia to racist parents, both voted for Obama. They both helped Obama win the Republican state of Indiana.

My mother has always been a registered Democrat, and my father has always been a registered Republican. Being teenagers of the 60s, hate and fear do not reign supreme over them.

Jedd Corpse
11-05-2008, 09:56 AM
I have shed so many tears since last night, and just wanted to say... I am proud to be an American today

Taleren Bloodsong
11-05-2008, 09:59 AM
I have shed so many tears since last night, and just wanted to say... I am proud to be an American today

I am proud to be an American today too. I was proud to be an American yesterday. I was proud to be an American the day before, ad infinitum.

Greystone Thorngage
11-05-2008, 10:04 AM
i did swell up when guy from CBS counted down the seconds to 11:00pm EST and then said, it was over.

My roommate told his son this morning, for the first time he truly believe he could grow up and be ANYTHING he wanted to be.

McCain's concession speech was great...as thee guy on CNN pointed out, if the McCain that gave that speech ran that whole campaign things would of been different.

fildien
11-05-2008, 10:08 AM
I am proud to be an American today too. I was proud to be an American yesterday. I was proud to be an American the day before, ad infinitum.

/nod
It doesn't take one event to make me proud of my country I've always been proud.

Nydia --
Glad to know I'm not alone in the tribulations at home. I just don't understand. They don't hate him b/c he's black or a democrat, they hate him b/c they truly believe they are going take their money.

My mom is an odd bird. Just one year ago she told me there was no way in hell she'd vote a ****** into office yet the past month she's been chanting and raving and being his number 1 fan. Calling me repeatedly saying how happy she was. When queried about her elation when just a year ago she hated him she says simply "I'm a democrat and always have been I'd vote for anybody to get Bush out of office". I just sincerely hope the emotional divide in this country can be healed and I worry about people who are my friends and family who are "worried and praying for our country". Perhaps the most disturbing thing I've heard yet is that someone recounted a story of an experience travelling abroad. They bumped into a middle aged American couple and seeing friendly faces in a foriegn land they dined together. Later in the dinner conversation the middle aged American couple made known that they thought Barrack Obama was the anti-christ as depicted in the Left Behind series. :eek::confused: People scare me.

Last night watching the events unfold I wondered if I felt the same way that Americans did in 1960 seeing JFK elected.

Greystone Thorngage
11-05-2008, 10:10 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/lobotomysurvivor/obama-combo.jpg

Sixee
11-05-2008, 10:13 AM
I have shed so many tears since last night, and just wanted to say... I am proud to be an American today

You should have been proud before that, I know I was.

Regardless of who had won, you still should have been proud. It doesn't matter who won, it's the process by which we do it, that should give you pride.

Bylimet Spiritwalker
11-05-2008, 10:14 AM
What will be telling in the affect this election has on the country is if, in the next election cycle, we are no longer pointing out a candidate's race.

Jedd Corpse
11-05-2008, 10:40 AM
You should have been proud before that, I know I was.

Regardless of who had won, you still should have been proud. It doesn't matter who won, it's the process by which we do it, that should give you pride.


I was starting to be ashamed... but pride is making its way back in.

Sanchek
11-05-2008, 10:52 AM
I just hope people will hold him to the same standard as previous Presidents. All of this idolatry worries me a bit, in that regard.

lokase
11-05-2008, 11:01 AM
Pride (Latin, superbia)
Main article: Pride
In almost every list pride (or hubris or vanity) is considered the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins, and indeed the ultimate source from which the others arise. It is identified as a desire to be more important or attractive than others, failing to give compliments to others though they may be deserving of them,[citation needed] and excessive love of self.




Cheers,

Silentcerri
11-05-2008, 11:04 AM
I feel bad for the Secret Service agents now charged with protecting him and his young family. There are more than enough nut jobs and wacko's out there that want to be the one that took out the first black president.

I voted for McCain and agree if he spoke like he did last night the entire time things might have been different. Also in regards to his veep I agree she is a milf soon to be gilf, but it was not what they needed. I think they should have picked someone from the party that had more experience and we might have seen a different out come there to.

I truly hope that the next 4 years the country can pull it's act together, and maybe this is what America needs to get off some the world's hate list.

Bylimet Spiritwalker
11-05-2008, 11:39 AM
maybe this is what America needs to get off some the world's hate list.


Watching the reactions of people in other countries to the declaration of a winner last night said a lot in that regard, I think. And, comments starting to be shared by world leaders, such as Brown in England, are sounding optimisitic rather than the stale 'blah blah blah' we usually get on these occasions.


On another note, they mentioned last night how when JFK announced the formation of the Peace Corps, his office was deluged with applications that far outnumbered the available slots that had been planned for, and it is my hope that whatever direction or process Obama formulates that he gets a similar response from the American people. This really is a time for people to not be demanding of government to fix everything but rather to be asking "How can I help?" Obama allowed us to see how much energy and motivation is out there among our people, so the task now will be to see if it remains long enough to be harnessed and put to use in rebuilding the country.

Kanyli
11-05-2008, 08:54 PM
My parents are the same way - we're supposed to have dinner this weekend, and I'm not sure how that's going to go. They both hate and despise the liberals, and are a touch racist to boot.

I suspect history will be harder on Obama than other presidents, since if he screws up the message will be that it was because he was black. They may cut him slack over that, but it may be used as evidence that this election was a mistake. Getting the nation as a whole to remember that Obama is but a man will be a challenge, on both sides of the fence.

Greystone Thorngage
11-05-2008, 08:59 PM
my family has disowned me. 2 cousins, 1 uncle told me to fuck off and thanked me for ruining the country.

Osgiliath666
11-06-2008, 09:35 AM
Obama ran an excellent campaign. Got to hand it to him... NOt how I wanted it to end with a marxist in office, but it was ground breaking non the less. Good to see bi racial pres. a huge step.

Rover
11-06-2008, 10:20 AM
Other than the marxist remark it appears that Osg must have unwittingly left himself logged in at a public computer and someone has posted under his name.

Fandros
11-06-2008, 10:25 AM
San made the comment that really strikes home. Something to the effect of how folks idolize him so much it worries him.

When , not if, Obama (he's human we all fail at some point) fails he has a long way to fall and could really hurt those he falls on as he'll reach a lethal speed before he falls on them.

Sanchek
11-06-2008, 10:28 AM
Of course, at the same time, Bush is about as easy an act to follow as you'll ever find.

Fandros
11-06-2008, 11:29 AM
Well in all fairness the shit sandwich Bush was given after Clinton's term wasn't fun either. The economy set to blow, fuse was already lit, and the 10 year embargo with mucked up intelligence service ( again Clinton's doing by setting up walls within the agencies) did nothing but set up a big Kaboom down the road.

Somewhere/somehow there needs to be a way to handle the nonvoted powers in Washington to make their doings easy to see and hold them accountable as opposed to pinning it all on the temp administration(s).

Sixee
11-06-2008, 12:24 PM
The "blame the former administration" game has been around for quite a while now. Though I'm not too sure how much water that will hold if Obama is elected for a second term.

Regardless, I wonder if voice mail messages will be as hateful as when Clinton's staffers left, and if Barbra will leave the White House china intact.....LOL.

Bylimet Spiritwalker
11-06-2008, 12:29 PM
And 'Breaking news' ....North Carolina goes in the Obama column, by less than 20k votes. Virtually was a 50/50 between Obama and McCain.

Nydia Ywalmoriel
11-06-2008, 12:30 PM
Sixee, Barbara was Bush 1's wife; the eternally Xanax-blissed-out Laura is W's, and one wonders if she'll even notice the moving van driving up. Also, the reports of Clinton staffers' pranks were found to have been wildly overstated, although I'm sure there were a few :).

Sixee
11-06-2008, 12:53 PM
Whoops, had an old-timer's moment there....

Fandros
11-06-2008, 03:15 PM
Ahhh yes now it is time to put Obama under the microscope and let the comics loose upon his every action.

I need a timer to countdown till Bill Mahrer changes his stripes again....

It's his bread and butter, he isn't all that funny without going after the man as his forte'.

Kelraz Bladesinger
11-06-2008, 03:23 PM
I kinda wonder if Colbert will be able to keep his thing going in the current climate, too.

Taleren Bloodsong
11-06-2008, 03:30 PM
Ahhh yes now it is time to put Obama under the microscope and let the comics loose upon his every action.

I need a timer to countdown till Bill Mahrer changes his stripes again....

It's his bread and butter, he isn't all that funny without going after the man as his forte'.

No, it's not time yet. The time is January 20th. You can't hold him accountable for the actions of the current lame duck administration.

Fandros
11-06-2008, 03:33 PM
No, it's not time yet. The time is January 20th. You can't hold him accountable for the actions of the current lame duck administration.

Good point, timing was off but the post is on point I think. We've all gotten used to , and some have made a living off of, throwing the administration into the fire.

Taleren Bloodsong
11-06-2008, 03:55 PM
And had lots of fun with it too

Sixee
11-06-2008, 07:07 PM
Thousands comedians out of work because there just isn't enough political material to be funny? Maybe it'll be like the comic scene in the Soviet Union back in the 80's.

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Palarran
11-07-2008, 03:00 PM
This article sums up the way I feel about Obama's election, and why I supported him:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/168032
(While I don't agree with some of the attacks on Bush--saying that he can "barely form a coherent sentence, much less a strategic thought" is unnecessary hyperbole--the main point is that Obama will calmly and rationally consider various solutions to our problems, guided by reason rather than ideology, and that will be a welcome change.)

...What Obama's election means, above all, is that brains are back. Sense and pragmatism and the idea of considering-all-the-options are back. Studying one's enemy and thinking through strategic problems are back. Cultural understanding is back. Yahooism and jingoism and junk science about global warming and shabby legal reasoning about torture are out. The national culture of flag-pin shallowness that guided our foreign policy is gone with the wind. And for this reason as much as any, perhaps I can renew my pride in being an American.

I'm under no illusion that Barack Obama will turn out to be Barack Panacea. In terms of holding major office, he's the least experienced president in memory. He'll probably screw up a lot of things, especially at first. The problems he faces—from the economic crisis to Iran's nuclear program—are just too hard. And I occasionally worry that in his eloquent eagerness to empathize and reach across cultural barriers, Obama may overreach in the opposite direction from Bush, stumbling into the appeasement of adversaries like Iran (whose buffoonish president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, practically invited him to do so this week by sending him the first letter of congratulations from Tehran since 1979). Obama must also guard against the sort of intellectual arrogance that characterized the "best and the brightest" of the Vietnam era.

But, frankly, these are all risks worth taking after nearly eight years of a president who could barely form a coherent sentence, much less a strategic thought. We can finally go back to respecting logic and reason and studiousness under a president who doesn't seem to care much about what is "left," "right" or ideologically pure....

Rover
11-07-2008, 03:15 PM
Studying one's enemy and thinking through strategic problems are back.

Kind of off topic but I see that quote above and I think of how many of the "warmongers" have used and stood upon quotes by Gen Patton as they justify the "attack mentality" of the arm chair generals and yet Patton was the consummate thinker, and advocate of education in the military and well known as a commander who did extensive studies of his enemies.

velvetsilence
11-07-2008, 08:34 PM
keeping off-topic. :(

Patton was the consummate thinker, and advocate of education in the military and well known as a commander who did extensive studies of his enemies

While movies love to portray him as hip shooting maverick it is really quite off the mark. one of the first to see the potential of armor as a game breaker in warfare he was the perfect counter-point to Rommel. the argument will always exsist that had Hitler full reinforced and supplied Rommel in North Africa the situation could have been very differant.

That bieng said one has to acknowledge the improbable and heroic efforts of the British in holding the line and preventing Rommels objective success.