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Lleauric
04-21-2006, 09:49 AM
Can this guy do ANYTHING right? Anything?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/steej/bushpinch.jpg

You do not pinch the leader of China after introducing him under the title Taiwan uses and then fail to exert the same standards of crowd control you use for yourself and a heckler humilates him. This is going down as the worst diplomatic showing by the US since Wilson's "Fourteen Points" was voted down by congress.

I guess he is the "DECIDER!" though. Mostly bad decisions, BUT AT LEAST HE IS DECISIVE!!!

Anterak
04-21-2006, 09:54 AM
Nice vest.
We fuck?

Lleauric
04-21-2006, 09:55 AM
(We take you now to the Oval Office.)

George: Condi! Nice to see you. What's happening?

Condi: Sir, I have the report here about the new leader of China.

George: Great. Lay it on me.

Condi: Hu is the new leader of China.

George: That's what I want to know.

Condi: That's what I'm telling you.

George: That's what I'm asking you. Who is the new leader of China?

Condi: Yes.

George: I mean the fellow's name.

Condi: Hu.

George: The guy in China.

Condi: Hu.

George: The new leader of China.

Condi: Hu.

George: The Chinaman!

Condi: Hu is leading China.

George: Now whaddya' asking me for?

Condi: I'm telling you Hu is leading China.

George: Well, I'm asking you. Who is leading China?

Condi: That's the man's name.

George: That's who's name?

Condi: Yes.

George: Will you or will you not tell me the name of the new leader of China?

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: Yassir? Yassir Arafat is in China? I thought he was in the Middle East.

Condi: That's correct.

George: Then who is in China?

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: Yassir is in China?

Condi: No, sir.

George: Then who is?

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: Yassir?

Condi: No, sir.

George: Look, Condi. I need to know the name of the new leader of China. Get me the Secretary General of the U.N. on the phone.

Condi: Kofi?

George: No, thanks.

Condi: You want Kofi?

George: No.

Condi: You don't want Kofi.

George: No. But now that you mention it, I could use a glass of milk. And then get me the U.N.

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: Not Yassir! The guy at the U.N.

Condi: Kofi?

George: Milk! Will you please make the call?

Condi: And call who?

George: Who is the guy at the U.N?

Condi: Hu is the guy in China.

George: Will you stay out of China?!

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: And stay out of the Middle East! Just get me the guy at the U.N.

Condi: Kofi.

George: All right! With cream and two sugars. Now get on the phone.

(Condi picks up the phone.)

Condi: Rice, here.

George: Rice? Good idea. And a couple of egg rolls, too. Maybe we should send some to the guy in China. And the Middle East. Can you get Chinese food in the Middle East?

fildien
04-21-2006, 10:12 AM
LOL that deserves +rep

Grift3r
04-21-2006, 10:56 AM
I enjoyed the sound-bite from his speech played on Comedy Central last night too:

"The U.S. and China are two great countries seperated by a large body of water. . "

Wow, compelling stuff there George. Who the hell rights that shit for him anyway?

Sixee
04-21-2006, 11:21 AM
LOL, that Hu bit is very funny.
Abbot and Costello would be proud.
But I thought in a Communist regime, there were no leaders, and everyone was equal?
Oh, wait, I guess they haven't reached Utopia yet, my bad....

Osgiliath666
04-21-2006, 11:21 AM
Just can't stand facts can you Grift3r?

Lleauric
04-21-2006, 12:24 PM
Random trivia a Presidential speech does not make.

"China is big, US is not as big, We are seperated by a big body of water. I like Eggs. Egg is common name for Chinese people. Some call me the space cowboy, some call me the Gangster of Love, some people call me Maurice, because of speak of the pompitus of love."
Dude.. hire me.

Tranzure
04-22-2006, 05:35 AM
Should I laugh or cry? His father would be so proud...

Haloface
04-22-2006, 06:06 AM
Oh. My.


It's like watching my Best Man speech.

Too cringe-worthy.

Cloudwalker21
04-22-2006, 09:05 AM
Haha. The fact that he used the name Taiwan uses is one hell of a slap in the face to him I bet, given what a sore spot Taiwan was during Mao's regime.

akipt
04-22-2006, 12:55 PM
You do not pinch the leader of China after introducing him under the title Taiwan uses and then fail to exert the same standards of crowd control you use for yourself and a heckler humilates him. This is going down as the worst diplomatic showing by the US since Wilson's "Fourteen Points" was voted down by congress. Yes, tyrants deserve more respect.

I find it all quite humorous actually.

Being lectured about freedom, being heckled in public, and pushed around on stage like some child. Just another day for the president.

Thormir
04-22-2006, 01:06 PM
Yes, tyrants deserve more respect.Are you referring to Bush or Hu?

Haloface
04-22-2006, 04:34 PM
'I find it all quite humorous actually.'

- As a supposed statesman, it's actually tragically humorous.

Lleauric
04-22-2006, 04:38 PM
tyrants deserve more respect.

Yes, but only when they have 2 billion citizens, are financing our TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT, have nuclear weapons, and are one of our largest trading partners.
See.. the reason the US doesnt have to choose between "guns or butter" IS China.
I know your ability to read is limited to only things that coincide with your existing beliefs, but you should try to ingest some reality... I understand you risk an adverse reaction.. but give it a shot. There is even a nice rebuttal at the end advocating the opposite point, so you can lapse back into your cocoon of denial with nary a scratch on the hardened carapace of your ignorance.

read this
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20050701faresponse84415/brad-setser/how-scary-is-the-deficit.html

The United States has a particularly delicate relationship with China, which is currently the single biggest buyer of U.S. debt. To date, disagreements on other issues have not prompted China to slow its accumulation of dollar reserves, but that is not to say that it could not happen in the future. The ability to send a "sell" order that roils markets may not give China a veto over U.S. foreign policy, but it surely does increase the cost of any U.S. policy that China opposes. Even if China never plays its financial card, the unbalanced economic relationship between the United States and China could add to the political tensions likely to accompany China's rise.
Economic power usually flows to creditors, not debtors. While the United States roams the world looking to sweep up any spare savings to finance its huge deficits, China roams the world looking for new places to invest its surplus savings -- including in oil and gas resources and in states that Washington has judged pariahs. This is a far cry from the early days of the Cold War, when the United States used its surplus savings to finance the reconstruction of its allies, cementing political alliances with strong economic ties.

Levey and Brown are right that so far, the world's appetite for U.S. credit has bolstered the U.S. ability to be a global hegemon "on the cheap." The United States exports enough to pay for only two-thirds of its imports; after recent tax cuts, the U.S. government collects enough non-Social Security revenue to cover only two-thirds of its non-Social Security spending. Foreigners made up the difference last year, buying enough U.S. Treasuries to fund the entire budget deficit. But without access to this easy financing from foreign central banks, the U.S. government and the U.S. electorate will have to make the kinds of unpleasant choices they have thus far avoided: among guns, butter, pork, tax cuts, and low interest rates.

Karg01
04-22-2006, 04:39 PM
I love you L2.

Haloface
04-22-2006, 07:05 PM
Why is anyone ever suprised?
Every power that rises, has its fall.

Whether it's reactionary to another power's rise or the inevitability of its situation, nothing is a hegemony forever.

China is rising faster than Bismarckian Germany or Republican Rome. The decline of the US is - well I hate to say it, on the cards.

Ibudin
04-22-2006, 07:07 PM
Yea...we are decling soo fast. I can't wait till this fall happens. I mean then the rest of the great empires can feed the world's poor and come to the aid of the worlds disasters.

China the land with no women.

akipt
04-22-2006, 07:13 PM
Are you referring to Bush or Hu?

And I'm the one lectured about reading comprehension. In answer, yes.

Tranzure
04-23-2006, 04:47 AM
I typically try to stay out of discussions like this. I know absolutely jack squat diddly about world economics. With that said...

Maybe George W. was playing some intelligent game of "Embarrass the Chinaman". Maybe he called him by his Taiwanese title and planted someone in the crowd that would embarrass him. Maybe this is some elaborate ploy to shame China into being more like the USA or Bush is just a dumbass.

You make the call.

Bise
04-23-2006, 10:24 PM
I remember when George H Bush would pronounce Saddam Husseins name wrong on purpouse with the intent to piss him off. I forget what it meant but it was something like "shoe shinner" the way he would mis-pronounce it. :)

Tranzure
04-24-2006, 05:42 AM
So, you think this was intentional?

Sixee
04-24-2006, 03:38 PM
Well, either you believe GW is a Diabolical Evil Mastermind, A La Dr. Evil, or he's a guy that acts like a Chimp.
But he can't be both.