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Osgiliath666
10-31-2008, 05:52 PM
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/31/low-richardson-pegs-middle-class-making/

Bylimet Spiritwalker
10-31-2008, 06:22 PM
I was not aware of Richardson holding any position in Obama's campaign organization, so why do his comments mean anything?

Lleauric
10-31-2008, 07:01 PM
You are completely tone deaf.

Im more worried about this.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/palin-fears-med.html

How can you be a candidate for the office of the vice president WHEN YOU DONT EVEN FUCKING UNDERSTAND THE CONSTITUTION YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DEFEND.

Kanyli
10-31-2008, 08:16 PM
How can you be a candidate for the office of the vice president WHEN YOU DONT EVEN FUCKING UNDERSTAND THE CONSTITUTION YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DEFEND.Same thought here, but how can you be a candidate for the office of vice president when you FUCKING VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DEFEND!

How is it people are excited for her in 2012?

Osgiliath666
10-31-2008, 08:40 PM
How dare Palin question the obviously bias media and portrayal of her... Oh that' right she does not support the views of the Objective journalists an dhow they cove The One.. How lord and Savior B. Hussein Obama.... How dare she indeed! I am sickened!


Lleauric becomes better at Dodging (100)!!!

Rover
10-31-2008, 09:30 PM
How can ones own words be media biased? How can you honestly say that she is qualified? Certainly not based on her knowledge, certainly not based on her political past, certainly not on anything she's done as a mayor or governor.

The party you support is only a name, it has no conviction, no intention of service to the country. It is not a party of conservatives, it is simply becoming a party of people who have an envy of the educated a party of religious idealism equaled only by the fundamentalists of Islam.

Once again you show why I know you're an idiot, it's ok to say I'm being inaccurately portrayed in the media, or the media is unfair to me whether you are right or wrong about it just doesn't matter. But to actually try to say that media reporting on you as a public figure is a violation of your first amendment rights is just simply insulting to the intelligence of even the least educated person.

I'm really shocked you don't see it that way, it really is not a gray area.

Lleauric
10-31-2008, 09:39 PM
Dumbass... try to pay attention.

She said that her 1st Amendment rights are being violated by people criticizing her for being negative.

Complain about the press all you want... but to lack such a basic understanding of what free speech is and how it is defined in the constitution is scary. Well, not scary for you, because you are freaking moron, but scary for most normal people.

I know you probably spent most of your time in civics class drooling onto your desk, and as such have not even a rudimentary understanding of such concepts, so Ill do my best to explain it to you, since you have no fucking clue about the principles that this country, which you claim to love so much, is built on. Actually... forget it. You bore me dude.
I don't give a fuck what you know, or what you don't know. After Tuesday you can dwell on your insignificance. Your demographic, your ideology, your wing of the party are on the verge of irrelevance.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/kos102/2008/Obama/Halloween/Pumpkin/Evolution.jpg

btw. Thats PRESIDENT B. Hussein Obama.

Get used to it.

Bylimet Spiritwalker
10-31-2008, 11:52 PM
Heh, I had one of those flashbacks to George Carlin days when the subject of Palin's knowledge was broached; found myself thinking of his routine on jumbo shrimp, or military intelligence, or in my case postal management.

Osgiliath666
11-02-2008, 05:03 PM
Oh no... What a shame.....

http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry.html?q=blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry

Kanyli
11-02-2008, 05:37 PM
Wait, Obama is in favor of alternative energies and green technology? Holy hell, I didn't realize that! Thank you for posting and enlightening me!

While I don't agree 100% with Obama's energy plan, this is hardly news.

Osgiliath666
11-02-2008, 08:43 PM
oh what a shame he wants to put MANY people out of work.. Coal needs to be part of a comprehensive energy plan. besides wasn't that Biden saying BUILD! Oh what a shame.. more Americans out of work.

Taleren Bloodsong
11-02-2008, 08:47 PM
Most people that work in the mines want an alternative to working in the mines. They see it as an ending technology, but they have no way out. If there's feasible alternatives, most mine workers would be happy to transfer into that new line of work. (This comes from a person from West Virginia. I have numerous family members that have or still do work in the mines)

Rover
11-02-2008, 09:26 PM
The funny thing was seeing Palin at a Solar Energy company speaking about the need to drill for oil, she actually said "drill baby drill" and no one cheered.

And Osg, are you telling me that to develop alternative sources of energy will put coal miners out of jobs? Why couldn't they get jobs in the other energy sectors? Would that not be a free market thing?

Don't forget too, the reason why coal miners still have jobs is because we haven't outsourced our mines yet.

A few other quick questions:

Why is it socialist or even communist to want affordable health care for every citizen?

Why is it liberal to explore alternatives to oil and coal? Would that not be supremely capitalist and a good thing for markets as it would breed competition?

Why is it liberal or communist to want to repair our infrastructure?

Osgiliath666
11-02-2008, 10:35 PM
This is starting to catch hold... Starting to pop up on other sites now.. Oh what a shame. Poor American jobs.. Suck to be them I guess.

Rover
11-02-2008, 11:47 PM
Answer my questions. Please.

Jedd Corpse
11-03-2008, 02:14 AM
This is starting to catch hold... Starting to pop up on other sites now.. Oh what a shame. Poor American jobs.. Suck to be them I guess.

OH NO MCCAIN IS A TERRORIST!!!


Syrian Ambassador: Lieberman Assured Me McCain Would Talk With Syria (http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/02/lieberman-syria/)»

In a new interview (http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4544) with Foreign Policy magazine, Syrian ambassador Imad Moustapha said that Syria is “doing everything possible within our means” to stop insurgents from crossing into Iraq, and decried the recent U.S. strike into Syria as a “terrorist, criminal act.” Most interestingly, Moutapha said that Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) personally assured him that a McCain presidency would open up a dialogue with Syria (http://www.newshoggers.com/blog/2008/10/would-mccain-ne.html):

FP: U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama says that he would be willing to sit down with states that are now considered enemies of the United States. Is that encouraging to you?
IM: I have reason to believe that even if [Senator John] McCain becomes president of the United States, he will also be inclined to sit and talk with Syria. I can tell you this on the record: Senator Joe Lieberman, who is supposed to be very close to McCain, has said this explicitly and very clearly to me personally.


http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/02/lieberman-syria/

Lleauric
11-03-2008, 05:25 AM
Starting to catch?

loelz

Not a prayer. Itll be on Rush, itll be on Hannity and the other talkers. But it won't break through, there isnt enough time and most people have tuned out and made their decision.

I hate to break it to you Osg... but this cake was baked 10 days ago. Undecideds are breaking for Obama now. He has gone up in almost every major poll. Ras just did one with 5,000 likely voters and a 2.0 MoE (signifying their very best poll data and effort as this poll will be the one they hang their hat on) That has Obama at 51% with a +5 lead.

Now, national polls dont really mean squat, so we can look at the battlegrounds.
McCain has to win every single battleground state and steal back Penn.
That is the reality... and without any thing even remotely looking like a ground game... this one is pretty much over.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/#data

Oipunx the High Elf Cleri
11-03-2008, 10:02 AM
loelz


:)

Sixee
11-03-2008, 10:07 AM
btw. Thats PRESIDENT B. Hussein Obama.



I'm wondering how many Radical Islamic attacks we will avoid because of THAT alone?

Sanchek
11-03-2008, 10:10 AM
I think you're confusing radical Islam with West Virginia.

Bise
11-03-2008, 10:21 AM
Oh it is definately over. The "bradley effect" is bullshit to the extent of 10% points.... It would be different if occasionally McCain would be ahead. But if you couple that with the electoral map issues McCain has it is a pretty bleak picture.

I'm still voting for McCain but he has no chance.

Taleren Bloodsong
11-03-2008, 10:56 AM
I think you're confusing radical Islam with West Virginia.

Hey now!

Bylimet Spiritwalker
11-03-2008, 01:53 PM
Oh it is definately over. The "bradley effect" is bullshit to the extent of 10% points.... It would be different if occasionally McCain would be ahead. But if you couple that with the electoral map issues McCain has it is a pretty bleak picture.

I'm still voting for McCain but he has no chance.


I am sure folks recall how fervent I was at one time in supporting McCain, but I cannot see a vote for him now as being anything other than a vote against the other guy. The closer we get to tomorrow, the more I have been seeing things in McCain and his campaign that have me doubting him to a greater degree.

He has been changing positions to pander to voters.

His behavior and decisions regarding his campaign and the financial 'crisis' were at best erratic, and at the end of the day there was nothing to show for it.

He has displayed a high degree of agitation during the debates as compared to Obama's serene demeanor.

He selected, and continues to defend as qualified, a woman with far right views whose only benefit to the campaign was to energize the hard right wing base; seriously, she still considers herself to have foreign policy experience without any experience in foreign policy.

His oratory gaffes were not present in McCain 2000, and to me seem closer to the confusion I saw with my own dad when he was starting to go downhill than to any campaign explanations of the stress of the run for office.

He is in his 70's! The chances of his dying or becoming incapacitated while in office are too high to be comfortable with, and he did not put the country ahead of his own ambition by ensuring his VP pick would be a qualified, knowledgable person ready to step in if needed.

And last, and very important to me, is that he has run the type of campaign that Rove ran against him and which he swore to never be a part of, and yet he is doing even worse (even Rove calls it nasty).

Obama's "negative" ads (that I have seen) compare McCain to Bush and talk about his voting with Bush policies and that he will continue them.

McCain's "negative" ads suggest corruption, that Obama is going to make this a socialist country, that the country will be in danger from terrorists, etc. And why would the country be any less in danger from terrorists with McCain? Terrorists are afraid of McCain?

All in all, 2000 was McCain's time, and I believe he would have been a much better President than Bush and that we would have continued the fight in Afghanistan without the distraction of a misguided expedition into Iraq. Now, it is past his time, and the country needs to move in a new direction. I would prefer the direction Ron Paul laid out, but I think it will be Obama's lead; it is a generational force that is moving this election.

And, I am not willing to say that that is a bad thing; simply something new in our nation's journey.

Osgiliath666
11-03-2008, 08:12 PM
Oh what a shame... The peoples "cult of personality" has found his "useful idiot" here.. Oh my...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

Kelraz Bladesinger
11-03-2008, 08:17 PM
Taken out of context, that's what it sounds like. Though you can also just as easily infer that she isn't going to have to worry about the economy and the problems that Bush has dumped on us.

Lleauric
11-03-2008, 08:35 PM
One of the biggest pluses for the Democrats going forward is that the ground based people powered organization has produced a pretty fucking impressive crop next generation Dems. A great example is this kid Alex Lofton. At 23 he managed to spear head one of the best Democratic efforts in the nation in Georgia, and if they win there he will be getting alot of the credit for it. He is the next huge name in the Democratic Party.

Going further, Ive seen in mention that staffs in each state have produced from the grass roots an impressive army of volunteers whose talents have catapulted them into paid positions, many of them in formerly "red" states.

Another reason why the Republicans are fucked. The Dems are now restocked with fresh talent and new faces at the same time that the Republicans are fracturing and and retracting.

Besides.
http://www.madmann.com/fark/obamasuperman.jpg