I want to hear it all. I want to hear all the bullshit about me that has been spread from here to kingdom come over nothing. I'll explain some of the shit that has transpired over the past 4 years for anyone that wants to know. I'll start with a little story that kicked off most of it.

Years ago when I started Everquest, I started a Human Necromancer named Herminus. Myself and 3 RL best friends took our adventures all over Norrath. This was when Luclin hadn't come out yet and when EQ had a silly interface with a big window in the middle. I gave up on the game very quickly at that point because it looked like shit. Then one day, my friend Drugan was visiting and told me that a new expansion came out and that EQ had full screen now. I decided to log back in and alas, it was tolerable. We then started playing full swing again and having a good time.

We were hunting in Oasis of Marr when we ran across this little dorf cleric named Dhergen. He buffed us and helped us figure out more of the game. He was an officer in a guild named Legions of Ragnarok. (Remember them Talid?) He invited us to join and we graciously accepted and became members of a great tight knit family. Everyone in the guild was nice as could be and helpful beyond belief. We eventually became officers in this guild as it grew and grew, almost out of control it seems.

One night, while killing a mob, we got a new recruit. This recruit had more knowledge of the game than I had ever witnessed before. We thought what a perfect addition to the guild he would be. The only downside we could see is he was a very headstrong individual. It was his way or no way at all. No matter what was suggested as far as quests and raid targets by others, he was dead set on which way the guild was gonna go. He was eventually made an officer and this caused some ripples in an otherwise very friendly guild. I won't name names because it was so long ago it really doesn't matter. There were some heated arguements on the boards between him and I. Some took his side and ganged up on me and pushed all the buttons to outright just piss me off. Finally, I told him to "Go play a nice game of hide and go fuck yourself" and from that point on, my reputation went to hell. To this day, over 3 years later, people still hold that against me. Those same people are the ones that start shit with me on boards and in game for nothing more than a dead argument from years ago.

So, what else has anyone heard? I'd love to clear all this shit up and figure out why I can't play a game that I love to play due to dramatic bullshit and lies. I'll be outright honest about whatever I am asked.

Novalee - Ayonae Ro - Retired

Need some filler here please, anyone, anyone, anyone?

Nobody gonna comment...it seems nobody cares except when I try to return to the game and actually play.

http://p196.ezboard.com/fsolusekseyefrm11.showMessage?topicID=1692.topic

Newsflash: We don't know who you are and we don't care. If you have to make a post about YOURSELF in NAG, there's a problem.

That's ok Clearurmind. The toon did get a name change and did get a new owner as well. I had no idea where the toon ended up, but I guess it ended up on Tribunal after I had moved it to Fennin Ro.

It's funny, 2 of my real life best friends are in VA and the accounts they use are mine.

I started another toon long ago and play that one on a different server, I was just posting here out of curiosity to see if anyone would actually fess up to the BS they have been spreading for years. I don't even know you Clear, don't have an opinion to form about you either. I just don't understand why you suddenly have an opinion of me and you have no idea who I am eitther.

I remember you, you goddamned cheat. How dare you come back and pretend like you didn't do all that, like it's some "little story". Admit what YOUR part in it was, then we can try to get on with the business of forgiveness. Quit acting like a snowy white little angel.


I won't name names because it was so long ago it really doesn't matter. There were some heated arguements on the boards between him and I. Some took his side and ganged up on me and pushed all the buttons to outright just piss me off. Finally, I told him to "Go play a nice game of hide and go fuck yourself" and from that point on, my reputation went to hell. To this day, over 3 years later, people still hold that against me. Those same people are the ones that start shit with me on boards and in game for nothing more than a dead argument from years ago.

I AM that 'headstrong' individual (switched over to the Tribunal), but you're little more than a frigging LIAR. No one "ganged" up on you. You were just wrong, and you know it. People hold it against you because you were very mean, and unecessarily mean. I wish I could post all that up here for other people to judge. Do you still have it? You have MY permission to post it.

So, what else has anyone heard? I'd love to clear all this shit up and figure out why I can't play a game that I love to play due to dramatic bullshit and lies. I'll be outright honest about whatever I am asked.

Tell the story EXACTLY as it happened, without all your embellishments Nova. I DARE you. I'll have my revenge on you someday.

KEBROK?

After all these years? Wow...

I never denied doing anything. I also have never cheated at anything.

Wrong? Wrong about what? Wrong about wanting to raid certain areas? Wrong about wanting to get parts for people's epics when all you fucking cared about was taking the guild to Kael with your group of ninnies? I was right about your being a self serving asswipe that cared about nothing more than equpping yourself and a couple rl friends. It's too bad because in general I liked you and Bekkor and Rokkeb. It's too bad you could never get over the whole thing.

And yes, I actually have the whole board still.

Nah, Dante doesn't have the fucking heart to drag anything out. He'll go back to spreading vicious rumors and bullshit and playing his 5 toons with Macroquest.

, I was just posting here out of curiosity to see if anyone would actually fess up to the BS they have been spreading for years.

I want to hear it all. I want to hear all the bullshit about me that has been spread from here to kingdom come over nothing. I'll explain some of the shit that has transpired over the past 4 years for anyone that wants to know. I'll start with a little story that kicked off most of it.

Sounds like to me you just want to bitch and moan about the mistakes that you made. I dont see your first post as explain how you are just "curious" if anyone knew anything. Sounds like most of a bitchie ass woman with a broom stick up her ass demanding to know who stuck it up there....IMO

Shall I re-word it to say I want everyone that has something to fucking say to me to say it. I was in a guild with no bullshit and no drama for quite a long time. Suddenly, when my guild gets absorbed by another one, my name is blacklisted for no apparent reason.

So, this is a great place to publicly voice my opinion and have them voice theirs. Isn't that what this board is for? It's even a bonus that the asshat that started all this bullshit happens to be the moderator for the Tribunal Sleaze boards. So now I guess it's just going to be name calling and bullshit from here on out.

Go ahead Dante, let's hear your delusional version of the story from when you were mr. perfect on Ayonae Ro.

Nov, you might want to becareful. I think you swallowed that fishing lure so deep it's sticking out your gills.

Fandros Finglaflin

No it's not. Not much point in it. Live and learn, move on. Get over it. More fun though if you followed the string of crap some Nova person strung over 4 or 5 different boards. Almost as fun and watching Dante go on his crusade.

Nah, Dante doesn't have the fucking heart to drag anything out. He'll go back to spreading vicious rumors and bullshit and playing his 5 toons with Macroquest.

Another lie. You tried to ruin Kebrok's name, and now I'm forced to play the game with another name, all because of your lied. You hurt me man. Now you're making me angry. Post the board URL. I want everyone to see what a gutless turd you really were.

Sounds like to me you just want to bitch and moan about the mistakes that you made. I dont see your first post as explain how you are just "curious" if anyone knew anything. Sounds like most of a bitchie ass woman with a broom stick up her ass demanding to know who stuck it up there....IMO

So he lurks in the back ground with his tail tucked then sees an opportunity to try and point the finger at someone else to see if the flames get moved away from his feet. Dont' forget Shempie you still haven't answered a bunch of questions that others asked of you. Stop trying to rip someone else to make yourself look tougher. Cause no one is fooled.

Now back to Nova's (though not sure which Nova) drama.

Dante, I think I need to see your license. You might have already hunted this one to it's death...

Fandros

The amusing thing is, a lot of the recent activities with the Novalee character happened before the server merges were even announced.

(Note: when applying to a guild, it is generally considered a bad idea to be less-than-honest when it comes to your application and when answering any questions raised from it.)

Novalee, you aren't fooling anyone here. Yes.. I was "Mr. Perfect" on ARo, before you ruined my life with your cheating and lies. Post the URL to the boards and let your lies be revealed!

/em flips out his license for Fandros

I have never heard of this Nova and could care less about that drama; but, it is very cute how Dainty played the fish, assuring another short session of mutual masturbation for he and Shep and possibly even Nova, if she does not spit that hook out.

Dante basically had a guild farm weapons, armor and tradeskilling for his own crew. He was a tool back then. Seems he still is a tool now.

Wow.. tag teaming liars. I STILL don't see the messageboard URL. I had a guild full of FRIENDS and we worked TOGETHER until trash like you came and made a mess of it. Drugan, I recall when you came out of the closet in guildchat. I supported you then. You turn your back on a long friendship with your hurtful comments. You should be ashamed. You and Nova BOTH have a lot to answer for, you heartless lying creeps!

I don't like speaking so harshly normally, but you two are really getting to me with these endless lies.

Drugan, I recall when you came out of the closet in guildchat. I supported you then. You turn your back on a long friendship with your hurtful comments. You should be ashamed. You and Nova BOTH have a lot to answer for, you heartless lying creeps!

I don't like speaking so harshly normally, but you two are really getting to me with these endless lies.


LOL u just proved my point. I have alot to answer for? enlighten me.

http://www.bentsynapse.net/insults/images/moron.jpg

That's funny as hell Dante.

I was in LOR long before you and your farming crew came along? Tell me how I ruined your name? I am very interested in that since I moved on from LOR after that and went elsewhere, never to speak your name again.

This is just a fine example of the bullshit that was spread about. I don't go around trashing other peoples names on a server because of a personal issue between me and them. I never had anything against you, it was the simple fact that you and your groupies tried to take over a perfectly functioning guild and do things only your way. As I recall, every suggestion made by anyone in the guild was turned down by you. You commented on everyone of them saying that it would be a waste of time or far beyond the guild's abilities. I left the game for 2 years after that. Tell me, in those 2 years, how did I ruin your name again? To this day, Rundle, Shammygirl and several others still hold the whole "Go play a nice game of hide and go fuck yourself" against me.

Cheating? I have never cheated in a game in my life and I certainly wouldn't need to. Where the fuck do you get off calling me a cheater? Endless lies? Do you want us to revive all the people that you stepped on so you could farm Kael and then abruptly take your toons out of the guild when you got what you wanted? You posted so nicely that you were leaving Everquest not to return. Funny thing is, whenever anything came up relating to myself or my rl friends, you popped up on message boards spewing more crap than ever.

I have the whole board, I don't have a host to put it on, but I do have it. You got somewhere I can randomly restore the SQL database and .PHP files to so you can see all the crap you posted?

You have to be the most self-serving arrogant sonofabitch I have ever known. Now you sit and try and turn another messageboard around to make them think you are an absolute angel. Fuck you, nobody's buying your brand of bullshit these days.

...and after you are done playing that game I suggested.......

Pour yourself a nice warm cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP

Few things.

Kebrok is NOT Dante. Kebrok had been in LoR on his enchanter like...a year before you had joined, true story.

Also if Keb, Bek or any of you read this, PM me~

Talid,

Why would Dante pretend to be someone he isn't then?

Talid,

Why would Dante pretend to be someone he isn't then?
To get a rise out of you. Trust me. Dante isn't Kebrok.

Hmmm, well that's really an odd thing to do. What an asshat

What, Dante lie?

Fuckin bunch of buzzkills. Even Sanchek was willing to watch the fun, but you humorless dumbfucks kill me. I don't know who's dumber.. Nova, the whiny simpleton looking for validation on a messageboard, his witless goon Drugan, or Talid the robot.

Novalee, you apparently believe every fucking word you see in print. If Talid wouldn't have opened his fucking sewer, you'd still be on the line fighting every single thing I typed. You've got your own special brand of gullible dumb, you should patent it.

Drugan, you didn't deny the bit about coming out of the closet, so I congratulate you on your bravery. It's not easy admitting you're homosexual these days. /salute.

As for Talid, Palimax and the like.. you're clearly a big part of the reason there's less fun on this board than there could be. I know you're too stupid to go along with most jokes, but this one was telegraphed so that a retard could see it coming. Lighten up, imbeciles. I'm not the devil, I'm just here for laughs. You need them.

Hmmm, well that's really an odd thing to do. What an asshat

http://sa.nextwish.org/Photoshops/Bumper%20Stickers/asshat.jpg

Drugan, you didn't deny the bit about coming out of the closet, so I congratulate you on your bravery. It's not easy admitting you're homosexual these days. /salute.


Wow your so quick and how did you know? Seriously your a tool. Dont spread lies because of the pic I have of you. Maybe youll find that special someone.


Heres Dante in all his glory

http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!4D!22!FA13472CB6B6/OHMASTER45/OHIOMASTERSEEKSSLAVE/scrapbookFiles/mailedD14.jpg

Urgggghhhhh..... uuuunnnnhhhhh.... ghhhhhaaaaaaa....

Nope, just can't work up a care.

Novalee - you have yet to finish explaining, why you have lied on NUMEROUS accounts about your applications on the Vallis Aspectus boards.

You tell people you are the original Novalee, Yet, you aren't and have sold Novalee??

On your first application, you was asked "Are you the original owner" You said "Yes". Then when called on it.. Editted all your posts and withdrew your app, No one denied you, We were looking for the TRUTH, which you couldn't provide.

Now the Novalee character comes along, Says they were a Class Leader for a guild called Red Legion, but with a different name of Tillisania(sp). How are we to know it wasn't another one of your arrogant stupid lies again? Since you can't tell the truth in the first place.

Telling the truth means that you don't skew the FACTS. Definition is for you Novalee, Since you obviouslly don't know what telling the truth means...

You know, I wish you wouldn't have editted all your posts so that I could post quotes, because for the life of me, I can't remember everything you said word for word on some of this stuff..

If you would just come out and tell the truth first off, you wouldn't have gone threw so much crap in your EQ carreer of E-Novalee.

Hahaha Skolin telling someone to tell the truth, this is getting rich.

Hahaha Skolin telling someone to tell the truth, this is getting rich.
Too bad he can't leave IvM to go back to VA only to go back to IvM anymore.

For you dumb shits who keep leaving me negative reputation points allow me to explain.

Firstly, Kebrok was a friend of mine and I would never want anyone to mistake Dante as someone that I could potentially get along with.

Secondly, the whole "i am the guy mentioned here" isn't funny.

"Someone hit my cat"
"I hit someone's cat today"

AHHAHAHAHAHAHA WE HAVE A NEW COMEDY KING HERE OH MY GOD HAHAHAHAAH WOW HE'S SO ORIGINAL AND FUNNY HAFHHSHSHAHAHGAAHGAH

i laughed :(

i laughed :(
Yes well that's because New Zealand is 10 years behind everywhere else when it comes to everything including comedy :mad:

Now that is funny sorry Grumblin hehe

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/f/fatherted_7772595.shtml

is greater than

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/h/helpimateenageoutlaw_999050523.shtml

tyvm.

But hell, what do i expect - you're american and thus will laugh and little children falling out of tyre swings.

Bah! This could have gone on for a lot longer...

I hate to say it, though I hold no ill will for eNovalee, but that was a stroke of genious Dante.

I don't know what happened in LoR with preNovalee. I know what happened when eNovalee posted an app to VA.

The origonal owner of Novalee used to belong to Vision (one of the founding guilds in VA for those of you that don't know). She quit EQ early, smart girl, and sold the account.

This is where it gets fuzzy. I assume that the person that posts as Novalee here, is the person that purchased the toon from Novalee.

He stated that he bought her for a buff bot but quit playing for a while and let his friends run her. This is when he reports that she was used as a buff whore. (It's disconcerting to see one of your respected and loved guildie's toons whoring away in PoK...sad) :(

I believe I noted this in his app thread to VA. I just went down hill from there.

Lots of half-truths and conveniantly omitted facts...

On a positive note, we did get a cameo from the real Novalee out of it. Was good to hear from her again. :D

My advice to eNovalee, start a new enchanter, or whatever, level up and forget this ever happened.

I just went down hill from there.

I = It

Good grief wasn't this likes months ago, wasn't this already discussed here? Someone still holding on eh? I do have to admit that was funny that nova believed dante was someone else. That could have been funny.

Shannah you were right, some men cause more drama than women :D

For you dumb shits who keep leaving me negative reputation points allow me to explain.

Firstly, Kebrok was a friend of mine and I would never want anyone to mistake Dante as someone that I could potentially get along with.

Secondly, the whole "i am the guy mentioned here" isn't funny.

"Someone hit my cat"
"I hit someone's cat today"

AHHAHAHAHAHAHA WE HAVE A NEW COMEDY KING HERE OH MY GOD HAHAHAHAAH WOW HE'S SO ORIGINAL AND FUNNY HAFHHSHSHAHAHGAAHGAH

Translation: Sorry I'm a Humorless Dick.

I was still trying to remember wtf Novalee was, then someone mentioned about whoring in PoK. I remembered her then.

The original Novalee was college-aged woman from southern California who played with her brother and was a Vision member. She retired from EverQuest and sold her character.

The KEI whoring Novalee was the first generation AFTER the original Novalee was sold.

I have no idea if or how many times Novalee has changed hands since then.

This is why I never sold Selwen. I had some pretty good offers, but I didn't want some ebayed dousche bag ruinuing my good name.

That's the problem...nobody knows or has even tried to accept who the 2nd Novalee is. Let's stop the bs name calling here and the bs rumors as well. I did purchase the account from the original Novalee. It was a very good deal that I couldn't pass up when I spoke with the original owner. She said she needed to give up EQ and focus on going to school. It's in my nature to help people whenever I can and that is what I did.

I was never a KEI whore at any time with the character. When I acquired the toon, she didn't even have KEI, I had to trade a Fungi Tunic for the KEI scroll because at the time they cost about 50k pp. From that point forward I made it a point to play a level 60 chanter in a newbie zone to learn the finer points of playing a chanter. I had already had a 46 chanter that I had raised up, but I needed to learn 14 levels of missed playing. I took the time to do this so as to be a proficient chanter, not an ebay moron. My original toon is a Human Necromancer, followed by a high elf enchanter that has long ago been deleted. I also have a few other toons. I take my game very seriously and play to win and play to succeed. Having said that, I learned how to play the toon for about a month before I actually claimed her as my main toon. As soon as POP came out, I spent countless hours getting flagged and leveling. I got most of my flags through AOR when it was still a worthwhile organization. I left Legions of Ragnarok and joined Ascentionis Potentiae which ended up disbanding. From there I went to Final Destiny, but about 5 months into it my job took me away on business often and I found I had no time to play.

1 year later, I was able to find time to play the game again, so I logged in and went back with my original family, LOR. Now, the story that I posted regarding Kebrok and LOR way back applies here. Even though Kebrok had quit the game by this point, he made a point to come back to the message boards and deny my application because of the arguement between him and I a couple years earlier. I took that with a grain of salt. A few others decided to rally on against me on the message boards after those posts and the flame wars began. I let it go and I moved on to Sect of Honor. I loved SOH and raided with them every night. Did the complete planar progression with them through RZ. I was made an officer and enchanter class leader as well. I had full raid points and respect of most in the guild. I farmed gear in SRT and gave it to guildies that needed it. Figured if we wanted to get past RZ, we better start helping to equip those in the guild that needed it. I also designed a new website for SOH as well as some other goodies on the web for them keeping flags and points and such.

I then had to endure a horrible point in my life. My fiancee' of 5 years decided one day that an ex boyfriend from 6 years prior was a better option. I came home to find nothing left in my apartment except my computer, desk, couch and bed. It was time to move on, so I moved which took away from my EQ time for a few months. I tried EQ2 when I moved only because everyone told me how great it was, I found it to be pathetic. I came back to EQ and logged in to find that SOH was gone. There was a post on the message board that we had merged with VA. Ozzcat and I were in EQ2 during all this so we missed the boat. Drugan went over there cause he was actively playing at the time. I applied and all the BS started and went downhill from there.

The recruiting process was nothing more than a few people asking me questions on the message boards, and then some people quoting some things that I never said. Not once did anyone ever question me in game. Never did I receive a /tell from anyone upon the first application. I was quite disgusted at how hastily I was dismissed because of opinions of a few that didn't like me.

I went on to play with some friends from there and just continued to grind out AA's, LDONS and EXP in various locations, with VA members on several occasions. In one group with 4 VA members, I was asked if I might be interested in applying to VA, so I went and filled out another application. This time I was actually intervied in game by a person of the name "Starliter". He/She asked me many questions regarding things such as resist levels, clicky items, AA's and other pertinent issues. It was very professional and pleasant. From out of nowhere came another raping on the VA boards that I was a liar and so forth. One of the questions on the VA boards is "Have you ever applied to Vallis Aspectus or one of it's founding guilds (Vision, Vallis Scortor)?" to which I honestly answered No on the first application because I personally never had applied to Vallis Aspectus or those other guilds before.

I didn't want anything more than to continue where I left off having fun with the game. I have been completely honest about where I had got the toon in the past with everyone. I had no reason to hide where the toon came from. Maybe I made a mistake by letting my son use the account. Maybe I shouldn't have let Drugan, Ozzcat or a couple others use the account in my absense so they could make some plat for their mains. Guess being nice once again has fucked me in the ass. Maybe now some of you can understand why I got so defensive about being accused of crap I didn't do or say. I have worked hard to get the Novalee toon where she is and have always kept a great reputation. We all step on peoples toes here and there, but short a couple people, those toes have healed and I hold no grudges.

For those that accuse me of being a 18 year old kid...

I'm 37, a Cisco Certified Network Engineer with 12 years experience and have 3 children and one on the way. I'm a Desert Storm Vet, served in the Marines for 5 years. I don't drink and I don't have mental issues. Jeesh, people have actually posted stupid crap about me, hence the reason I listed those things.

Any Questions?

Did you drop the soap when you were in the Marines?

Yeah, but only so the sailors would trip on it and fall to the ground.

Novalee was a stand up toon and person in SOH. I do not remember one complaint about them. They were very helpful to the guild and to the people in the guild. Anyone who didn't go crazy and jump ship as we could not beat RZtW deserves some sort of respect. What happened to the toon after SOH was absorbed is beyond me. I am just commenting on the Novalee i have known.

To Deviant the anon troll ---

And what toon were you in SoH? If you can't say who you were then why should someone believe you? Why are you afraid to say that you're Mamadu? You hide behind a name on this message board.

The problem with "Novalee's" VA application is that he presented himself as the original owner of the character; something we knew wasn't true.

He later removed many of his posts on our forums. This tell, however, was sent to one of our recruiters/officers.[Mon Feb 07 22:21:31 2005] Novalee tells you, 'I assure you I am not ebayed or playerauctioned, I am the original owner of this acct'
The person-now-known-as-Novalee denies this tell happened; or maintains that he didn't send the tell. Regardless, VA has chosen to nor pursue a relationship with them, and wishes them the best in their travels elsewhere in the game.

I can easily accpet the denial of the application, that has never been an issue. The false part of that statement is "and wishes them the best in their travels elsewhere in the game."

That has never been the case. A few of your illustrious members have gone out of their way to spread crap across several other guild boards. Even at the time when Tribunal hadn't merged yet, VA members still went out of their way to interfere with my apps to Trib guilds.

Yes, I will still maintain that that statement was never made by me. The only person from VA to ever contact me in game was Starliter. Why would I "assure" somebody that my character was not bought knowing that half the people in your guild knew that already, especially knowing that the toon was once in Vision? Oh well, no love lost.

Thanks for your well wishes though...much appreciated, I know you don't speak for those that have other intentions though.

That's the problem...nobody knows or has even tried to accept who the 2nd Novalee is. Let's stop the bs name calling here and the bs rumors as well.

Umm.. No.


I did purchase the account from the original Novalee. It was a very good deal that I couldn't pass up when I spoke with the original owner. She said she needed to give up EQ and focus on going to school. It's in my nature to help people whenever I can and that is what I did.

What's that smell? It's stinky, and fecal, and it's all over our shoes now. "It's in my nature to help people". Bwhahahahaha! Here.. let me spell it out just a little bit for you..

YOU BOUGHT AN EVERQUEST ACCOUNT FROM SOMEONE WHO WAS A PIECE OF SHIT. YOU DID NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE GREATER GOOD OR GIVE TO CHARITY YOU FUCKIN AIRHEAD.


I was never a KEI whore at any time with the character. When I acquired the toon, she didn't even have KEI, I had to trade a Fungi Tunic for the KEI scroll because at the time they cost about 50k pp. From that point forward I made it a point to play a level 60 chanter in a newbie zone to learn the finer points of playing a chanter. I had already had a 46 chanter that I had raised up, but I needed to learn 14 levels of missed playing. I took the time to do this so as to be a proficient chanter, not an ebay moron. My original toon is a Human Necromancer, followed by a high elf enchanter that has long ago been deleted.


Convenient. I smell that smell again. Any moron knows the bitch of playing with Ebayed toons. They don't know how to play their fuckin class. You've conveniently "long ago deleted" the "proof" you played a chanter to 46. Oh.. and paint a turd bright red, it's still a turd. Same goes for lazy ebayin fucks.


I also have a few other toons. I take my game very seriously and play to win and play to succeed. Having said that, I learned how to play the toon for about a month before I actually claimed her as my main toon. As soon as POP came out, I spent countless hours getting flagged and leveling. I got most of my flags through AOR when it was still a worthwhile organization. I left Legions of Ragnarok and joined Ascentionis Potentiae which ended up disbanding. From there I went to Final Destiny, but about 5 months into it my job took me away on business often and I found I had no time to play.

So you stayed in a guild with that character when they had no clue if you were the original person or not? Did you tell the truth to the whole guild? Did you just continue to play with these people under false pretenses, or re-apply properly? If you had the nerve to stay, then you should have the nerve to adopt the shitty rep of the former owner, as you were a lying sack of shit.

1 year later, I was able to find time to play the game again, so I logged in and went back with my original family, LOR. Now, the story that I posted regarding Kebrok and LOR way back applies here. Even though Kebrok had quit the game by this point, he made a point to come back to the message boards and deny my application because of the arguement between him and I a couple years earlier. I took that with a grain of salt. A few others decided to rally on against me on the message boards after those posts and the flame wars began.

Sounds like the "Family" thought you were a hunk of human shit too. You're sounding a bit too innocent for me. I call, Lying Whore on this one.

I let it go and I moved on to Sect of Honor. I loved SOH and raided with them every night. Did the complete planar progression with them through RZ. I was made an officer and enchanter class leader as well. I had full raid points and respect of most in the guild. I farmed gear in SRT and gave it to guildies that needed it. Figured if we wanted to get past RZ, we better start helping to equip those in the guild that needed it. I also designed a new website for SOH as well as some other goodies on the web for them keeping flags and points and such.


Has all the soundings of justifcation, or background for an upcoming lie. Let's see.

I then had to endure a horrible point in my life. My fiancee' of 5 years decided one day that an ex boyfriend from 6 years prior was a better option. I came home to find nothing left in my apartment except my computer, desk, couch and bed. It was time to move on, so I moved which took away from my EQ time for a few months.

Wah. Sounds like your fiancee was a smart fucking man (though maybe not too smart considering it took him 5 years to dump you)

The recruiting process was nothing more than a few people asking me questions on the message boards, and then some people quoting some things that I never said. Not once did anyone ever question me in game. Never did I receive a /tell from anyone upon the first application. I was quite disgusted at how hastily I was dismissed because of opinions of a few that didn't like me.


Actually dumbass.. if a FEW members don't like you, then you SHOULD be dismissed. It's their guild. Why should they have to endure oking a member they don't like?

I went on to play with some friends from there and just continued to grind out AA's, LDONS and EXP in various locations, with VA members on several occasions. In one group with 4 VA members, I was asked if I might be interested in applying to VA, so I went and filled out another application.


Spam enchanter invite, or a genuine invitation? If so, who asked if you might be interested? Santa Claus?

This time I was actually intervied in game by a person of the name "Starliter". He/She asked me many questions regarding things such as resist levels, clicky items, AA's and other pertinent issues. It was very professional and pleasant. From out of nowhere came another raping on the VA boards that I was a liar and so forth. One of the questions on the VA boards is "Have you ever applied to Vallis Aspectus or one of it's founding guilds (Vision, Vallis Scortor)?" to which I honestly answered No on the first application because I personally never had applied to Vallis Aspectus or those other guilds before.


So how often do people just spontaneously from out of nowhere just call you a liar and so forth? Totally ungrounded too I'll bet! :rolleyes:

I didn't want anything more than to continue where I left off having fun with the game. I have been completely honest about where I had got the toon in the past with everyone. I had no reason to hide where the toon came from. Maybe I made a mistake by letting my son use the account.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.... "My Son Did All Those Bad Things, Not Me."

Fucking classic.

Maybe I shouldn't have let Drugan, Ozzcat or a couple others use the account in my absense so they could make some plat for their mains. Guess being nice once again has fucked me in the ass. Maybe now some of you can understand why I got so defensive about being accused of crap I didn't do or say. I have worked hard to get the Novalee toon where she is and have always kept a great reputation. We all step on peoples toes here and there, but short a couple people, those toes have healed and I hold no grudges.


You worked hard? Are you that stupid? You bought her at 60. Someone ELSE worked hard. I'm sure Drugan and Ozzcat love you accusing them of fucking up your "good" name too.. especially since Drugan came here to defend you! :D

For those that accuse me of being a 18 year old kid...

I'm 37, a Cisco Certified Network Engineer with 12 years experience and have 3 children and one on the way. I'm a Desert Storm Vet, served in the Marines for 5 years. I don't drink and I don't have mental issues. Jeesh, people have actually posted stupid crap about me, hence the reason I listed those things.


IT SHEMP!! OMG.. were you a self-taught Network Admin? Have you ever been involved in Top Secret government work? The whole story smells like a big, stinky lie. Fess up.. you're just an Ebay whore that wants to wipe the slate clean, but is finding it impossible.

Any Questions?

Just two..

1) Does your nose grow when you lie?

2) Can your pants really catch on fire from lying so much?

First off I have no real issues with Novalee, but wanted to post some clarifications before any of my Guildies see this post and /flame on.

THe reason given to me for the break from EQ wasn't what was posted here. It did involve the fiance, but something had happened and she was having a hard time dealing with it. I only bring this up, because if what I was told isn't the issue then I do have an issue with Novalee as person vs. the toon.

The deal with SOH didn't quite go down as simple as stated above. Novalee signed in and Ebonknight was running SOH into the ground. Most of the core officers had left SOH and some of their members had left as well.

Novalee spoke to us and said he was going to try and really fix what was done and salvage SOH. For that I give Novalee Props. After a month or so he decided to APPLY to Descendants of Anarchy. We accepted the application and even moved him into the Enchanter Officer Role. The whole DOA stint seems to have been ommitted. Also at this time Drugan left SOH and joined DOA per Novalee's coaxing I assume. Drugan was even promoted to an Officer for a short time as well. Novalee also tried putting together a Photo Album for DOA while in the guild. If he was doing all that must be a reason he omitted our guild as a former guild.

While DOA was on a raid Novalee was working on his 1.5 epic as it had just came out, and then began making remarks in officer chat about us not helping him do his epic in place of raiding. We explained we were on a raid and to post the raid request on the boards. He had posted it earlier to give him credit. The problem was the post said I need XYZ mob and that was it. No information, time, date, raid force needed, or any other criteria we have for such a request. He and another officer began going back and forth and Novalee then decided to Bash Myself, my officers, and my guild and then guild remove himself.

We posted on the Officer area about what happened and he was put on the blacklist of people to not invite back in. I spoke and chastised the other Officer for how he handled the situation. (He is no longer in DOA) and is a friend of Novalee's as well. Drugan even posted that Novalee was wrong in what he did, how he handle the situation, and remained an Officer for a couple of weeks.

Drugan then posted he had to follow his friend and hated leaving us etc. etc. and then they both then went back to SOH.

This should be the end of the story for our involement, but alas it isn't.

Not long afterwards VA absorbed SOH and that was that.

Novalee Apped to FOD, VA, maybe FD. and I think was tagged to another guild for sometime after that all took place. After he got denied at all those places he came back to DOA and applied to us and was prompty denied from us as well.

He did send me a tell and said his rep was ruined etc... and that he was thinking of moving servers. I told him there was a server Merge coming up so maybe he might find a home with a guild on the new server. /shrug.....

I was sent another tell saying that Novalee was deleted and that he was playing his cleric and other toons now to have a fresh start.

I only post here now because:
1. Reason for leave from game posted totally different from what he told me.

2. He was in DOA and why he isn't now- Ommitted

3. Applied to DOA a second time - Ommitted

4. Said Novalee was deleted - Wasn't


As I said I have no real issue's with Novalee. Before the leave from EQ he was very helpful to people and stood behind his guild and in what he believed in. When he came back was a changed person. Seemed to be focused on himself, confrontational, and doesn't know what to stand behind as he seems to not know what story he has told to who.

I usually just ignore and move on, but wanted to air this out before any DOA Members go on the boards and did a /flame on and make a situation we have put behind us something we would need to deal with again.

The line that Palimax quoted was from a half hour conversation with one of the VA enchanter officers. That conversation was initiated by Novalee...

YEA !!!!!
DUDE ..you lied ... plain and simple..let it go and move on ..He liked to tell SoH that he was the original owner of Nova as well ... and as I have met the original owner (ViV rocks !! ) called him on it... then he became the "cousin" of the original owner ... hehe .. always keep a lie simple.. Then he came to DoA and started again .. some people never learn ... the reason your ex left you seems pretty obvious.. your a LIAR =P
Id check out WoW or something ..start fresh and a bit of advice .. be honest..
Yea, I don't like E Nova .. never have ... never will ....
Sorry Snoop.. couldn't resist ...

Snoop,
I didn't leave it out for any particular reason except my post was a bit longer than I wanted. I actually had the bit about DOA in there but took it out due to length. It's also the reason I put "Any Questions" on my posts. I'm not here to hide anything or change anything that has happened. I'm here to air it all out. I'll be glad to share any information that anyone wants to accuse me of denying, omitting or fabricating. I will be glad to list all guilds I was in:

LOR
AP
FD
SOH
DOA
RL

Even enjoyed a couple time raids with FOD

I did go to DOA and it wasn't where I wanted to be. Nothing against Snoop or anyone else there as they have been my friends for a long time. I had an arguement with Sardera, whom I have argued with on many occasions over the years. We have that kind of relationship. Less than an hour after it occurred, everything was resolved between us. It was a huge misunderstanding and you are correct, I was a little off with the crap that came down in real life. I offered you my apologies then Snoop and Sardera and I chatted often. I then again left the game.

When I returned, I expected some bullshit and even some pissed off people, but I also came back in a new mindset to the game. I decided I needed to separate my personal life and my virtual life. I had actually gotten some help, seen a counselor regarding the personal issues and started a new job in a new place and everything was peachy on the real life side of things. Now I just had to login and fix the virtual life and everything would be balanced. The Novalee character was actually deleted. The character was gone for almost a month, but someone told me that I could request a restore on the character and I went through the proper channels to do so. I turned over a new leaf, paid for a rename, went to a different server and no joy. I did apply to other guilds under the new name, but a certain person looked it up on the name change list and started spreading the news to everyone.

I applied to VA, FOD, DOA, Requiem and FD. There might have been a few others, but with most of them, there was a VA Member that commented prior to the denial of the application. I started applying out of desperation to play the game after awhile. I just wanted to get in the game where SOH left off is all. I wanted to be the person I was in SOH, not the asshole I had become due to unforseen circumstances.

7 pages of flaming? Dude, get a name change.

The problem with "Novalee's" VA application is that he presented himself as the original owner of the character; something we knew wasn't true.

He later removed many of his posts on our forums. This tell, however, was sent to one of our recruiters/officers.

Mon Feb 07 22:21:31 2005 Novalee tells you, 'I assure you I am not ebayed or playerauctioned, I am the original owner of this acct'

After that nifty little quote, no matter what you say, in peoples eyes you are discredited.

Two things I want to address.

First, Dante, I know you're just a troll, but it bears mentioning: The original Novalee was a class act, a nice person and someone whom I met in person and under most circumstances would call my friend. Your assessment that they're a "piece of shit" is way out of line - even for you.

Second, eNovalee, I think you give yourself too much credit. As part of our own recruitment screening process, we regularly visit the recruitment and open forums of other guilds - primarily to verify the conditions under which people apply to us. We maintain what I believe to be fairly good relations with other guilds on the server, in part, because of that. I'm sorry you feel as though you've been singled out, but we do wish you the best.

Going out in a blaze of glory probably won't help. My honest advice to you, as someone who's suffered a lot of guild related dama in the last half decade, is to simply be honest, and you'll find your place.

I got a cleric account I dont use anymore *wink *wink


(Disclaimer)
I am in no way hinting that I would sell a Everquest account for money!

Quotes are funny.....

[Wed May 25 12:21:31 2005] Dante tells you, 'I'm a complete tool and no matter what you say I will always be a complete tool'

And another thing Dante, I will have to agree with Pal on that one. I spoke to the original Novalee on a couple of occasions and she is probably one of the nicest people I have ever had the opportunity to deal with. You are way out of line on that one.

Quotes are funny.....

[Wed May 25 12:21:31 2005] Dante tells you, 'I'm a complete tool and no matter what you say I will always be a complete tool'

[Mon Feb 07 22:21:31 2005] Novalee tells you, 'I assure you I am not ebayed or playerauctioned, I am the original owner of this acct'
Are you implying that the half-hour conversation from which the above quote was taken is a fabrication?

I received three "grey" reputation hits on this thread and the original owner issue. One of them suggested that I was sarcastic in my well-wishes for his happiness elsewhere.

Let me be clear - I honestly do wish him the best of luck in this game. He does seem to be a guy who would give of himself to whatever guild he ends up being in; but VA isn't the place for him.

We've had more than our share of guildmates with "issues" :)

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I can read on lips!! :D

When I returned, I expected some bullshit and even some pissed off people, but I also came back in a new mindset to the game. I decided I needed to separate my personal life and my virtual life. I had actually gotten some help, seen a counselor regarding the personal issues and started a new job in a new place and everything was peachy on the real life side of things. Now I just had to login and fix the virtual life and everything would be balanced. The Novalee character was actually deleted. The character was gone for almost a month, but someone told me that I could request a restore on the character and I went through the proper channels to do so. I turned over a new leaf, paid for a rename, went to a different server and no joy. I did apply to other guilds under the new name, but a certain person looked it up on the name change list and started spreading the news to everyone.

I applied to VA, FOD, DOA, Requiem and FD. There might have been a few others, but with most of them, there was a VA Member that commented prior to the denial of the application. I started applying out of desperation to play the game after awhile. I just wanted to get in the game where SOH left off is all. I wanted to be the person I was in SOH, not the asshole I had become due to unforseen circumstances.

The bit in Red, shows what a frigging psycho you are/were. No shrink would tell you to 'seperate' your personal and virtual life. You don't have a 'virtual life', you just spend a portion of your life playing in a virtual world. Keeping them seperate is dangerous, and no shrink would advise you do that. You're mental, and lying about that bit.

The bit in green is laughable because you're in denial. You weren't an asshole due to unforeseen circumstances. You were an asshole. When you have to put that excuse at the end, you're denying the truth. You're just a complete and utter sphincter. Admit that, apologize and THEN move on.

As for the original Novalee being a saint, and the negative rep hits from her followers.. I heard she was a greasy cyberwhorin ninjalooter. Shep told me in fact. He said he'd pay for her to chat with his son.

As for the original Novalee being a saint, and the negative rep hits from her followers.. I heard she was a greasy cyberwhorin ninjalooter. Shep told me in fact. He said he'd pay for her to chat with his son.You're crossing the line here. When she played, years ago, Novalee was a late-teen woman (possibly 20) in college. When we all went to Vegas to meet the first year, she wasn't old enough to drink/gamble yet.

While I still understand that you're just being a massive troll, trying to say anything to get a rise out of us, because you can't get an erection without it, you're making fun of an innocent woman, and it is in very poor taste.

I can't believe I was only mentioned once. :(

What wrong Nova, don't you love me anymore?

You were only mentioned once because what we had was so insignificant I forgot what the hell it was even about.

To this day, Rundle, Shammygirl and several others still hold the whole "Go play a nice game of hide and go fuck yourself" against me.

Well it seems you still have an issue with it. If it was so insignificant, why bring it up?

The only issue I have with it is that a comment I made over 3 years ago to one person seems to linger in your mind to the point of not letting it go.

You know, that's funny. Your only defense is to claim that I speak with someone else's voice. And you have always claimed to know what is in my mind. It's such classic Novalee it's not even funny. Your constant redirection of blame and the inability to stand up and just take responsibility is your real issue.

Just to make this clear, one more time, my opinion of you is based 100% on your words and your actions. You said it. I formed an opinion. That's it. Plain and simple.

Lets not forget that this thread is all about you. You were the one that brought me into it. So if you have an issue with me, say what you have to say. Don't be a pussy and dance around it afterwards claiming it's insignificant.

You want the truth from others? Then you should start with yourself. Once I see the whole truth from you, then I might start having some respect for you, and the whole thing can be cleared up. Otherwise this is just another lame attempt to make yourself out to be some sort of martyr and try to have people claim "Oh poor Nova, he got a bum rap."

Until then, it's the same old Nova. Same old story. Same old conclusion.

It's hard to live another's shadow Enovalee, I mean buying a persona then trying to live up to it and failing miserably. Then continually grasping to the remnants of an inner tube with a leak on a rocky river has to dis heartening.



Thankfully there are so many wonderful drug companies with vivid commercials and daily reminders of how to make it all better. I suggest getting a good health plan, then exploiting it and the government until you feel your virtual life is better.





Or just start over, its not that hard. If you are great person inside people will know, and they will hugglez U !~

I never claimed to get a "bum rap" or look for anything more than the rest of the people to do exactly what you say. I still don't know to this day why you or SG are all pissed at me. Well, she really isn't since I have spoken with her. Besides my little fight with Kebrok in LOR I honestly have no earthly or heavenly idea of why you are so pissed at me. I've tried in the past to speak to you in a civil manner and you did nothing but show complete contempt in your replies. I didn't come here to argue with you or anyone else really. Dante just likes to start shit and I foolishly bit into it not knowing any better. I really came here hoping to find some clarification and offer some as well to whomever might even give a slight rat's ass about any of it still.

I can always play EQ. I don't NEED a guild to progress further in EQ. There is more than enough content and activities that I can group. The only reason I was trying to clear some stuff up is because I would have liked to get in a guild and continue on with POP progression. It sux to have gotten a time flag and can't even go there. It sux to start seeing new zones and planes and then not be able to do it anymore. Yeah, I'll admit I said alot of nasty shit to alot of people. They said just as much back to me as well. It's a game, it's nothing personal. I fucked up and I can take responsibility for it. None of the shit being said here is new to me or news to me. I just wanted to see it.

Can I apologize to everyone I ever pissed off in EQ? Probably not and alot problably wouldn't give a shit or would remember. I've tried. I didn't even know about these boards until about a month ago or so. I would have gotten to this sooner had I known.

I never claimed to get a "bum rap" or look for anything more than the rest of the people to do exactly what you say. I still don't know to this day why you or SG are all pissed at me. Well, she really isn't since I have spoken with her. Besides my little fight with Kebrok in LOR I honestly have no earthly or heavenly idea of why you are so pissed at me. I've tried in the past to speak to you in a civil manner and you did nothing but show complete contempt in your replies. I didn't come here to argue with you or anyone else really. Dante just likes to start shit and I foolishly bit into it not knowing any better. I really came here hoping to find some clarification and offer some as well to whomever might even give a slight rat's ass about any of it still.

I can always play EQ. I don't NEED a guild to progress further in EQ. There is more than enough content and activities that I can group. The only reason I was trying to clear some stuff up is because I would have liked to get in a guild and continue on with POP progression. It sux to have gotten a time flag and can't even go there. It sux to start seeing new zones and planes and then not be able to do it anymore. Yeah, I'll admit I said alot of nasty shit to alot of people. They said just as much back to me as well. It's a game, it's nothing personal. I fucked up and I can take responsibility for it. None of the shit being said here is new to me or news to me. I just wanted to see it.

Can I apologize to everyone I ever pissed off in EQ? Probably not and alot problably wouldn't give a shit or would remember. I've tried. I didn't even know about these boards until about a month ago or so. I would have gotten to this sooner had I known.

So basically.. you spent a lot of your time pissing a lot of people off by your own words, and now because it "sux to have gotten a Time flag and can't even go there", people are supposed to forgive and forget? You really are a selfish and stupid cunt. Finding it hard to be a piece of shit in a video game, build a reputation as such, and then want to make friends? Heh.. good luck with that.

Pathetic.

Why are people pissed you ask? Well, here in EQland jaywalking is a capitol crime and grudges are never forgotten, even if those holding them can't remember if they took a shower that day or where they might have left their car keys. Your principle crime was to lie on an app to a guild. Officers of guilds have alot of cross communication, and it ends up being alot like the military where one minor fuckup can follow you from command to command and it will be that one minor fuck up that your upper chain of command will pass to their equivilants in another command even if you are otherwise a model soldier. Just think highschool and politics all in one and you pretty much have it figured out..

Well, EQ is NOT the military or any aspect of real life inspite of whatever recent graduates of Sociology 101 tell you. Its a fucking game. Log in and find yourself some friends and play. Its pretty much that easy. Even I can achieve that once in a while, and I am a complete asshole online. Whining here on this board is the hard part, really. Noone really knows or cares or understands the problem. Instead you have chuckleheads like Dante who get a chubby fucking with people like you who spill your guts out in a life sob story. For them that sort of thing is just a form of weakness they can exploit and twist the knife on, since people like that tend to relish in smearing the troubles of others in order to make up for their own inadequacies. Its as smart as standing barefoot on a fire ant mound for 20 minutes that everyone warned you about and then expecting sympathy when you are scratching your skin off.

So pretty much get over it. Start a trend. Maybe it will catch on.








Probably not.

I have no Friends ! :(

Well, you spank everyone's bottoms until they are red and they can't sit down so maybe they might consider that an unfriendly act.

And you're a gnome.

And you're a gnome.

A-Fuckin Men.

Gnomes need friends to!

No, the only thing a gnome needs is a good punt.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Novalee
To this day, Rundle, Shammygirl and several others still hold the whole "Go play a nice game of hide and go fuck yourself" against me.


First off I would like to say this: I never come to this board but was told I got mentioned here. :confused:

And it seems Nova has dug himself yet another hole. :cool:

I dont appreciate you bringing up my name in false contents. I never held that comment against you, seeing how as I was not around when you made that comment.

My beef with you was the way you acted and talked to me during your final time in LoR.

I have since talked with you after you got denied joining my guild. I'm not calling you my friend but I let shit go trying to be a big person. Then you bring this shit up out of no where..and for what purpose?

This is your major problem..and why I said I think you need some serious help...You fly off the handle spewing all kinds of shit from your mouth and then try to back track saying you never said it or try to make yourself look innocent in the matter. It doesn't work.

You always seem to find the way to get flamed in some manner...GO back and read your comments to Dante...its comments like those that you just fly out of your mouth (or type before thinking in this case) as to why you have pissed so many people off in this game.

BTW, I have seen Nova been a KEI whore in POk way too many times to count..you keep saying it wasnt you..but I was in a tell with you at the time of one of your broadcasts...

Lesson in life: IF you have to lie about shit, at least keep your stories straight.

Wow this is one FUCKED UP thread.


What's with Vision.. er VA and drama?
I swear the whole guild might as well go try their chances in hollywood at this point (no offense).

What's with Vision.. er VA and drama?
I swear the whole guild might as well go try their chances in hollywood at this point (no offense).Sorry to burst your bubble, but there is no Vision/VA drama. He applied, we told him "no thanks." End of the VA connection, except that the real Novalee used to be a Vision member, and, though inactive, her brother still is a VA member.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but there is no Vision/VA drama. He applied, we told him "no thanks." End of the VA connection, except that the real Novalee used to be a Vision member, and, though inactive, her brother still is a VA member.

Not busting any bubble. You just responded specifically about how you handled this one person's application, when I was just speaking generally about Vision/VA's history on the server. Perhaps I should have clarified myself, my fault.

lol sucks no edit button.

Anyway was going to add that you cannot deny Vision/VA has played a part in some glorious NAG threads.

Such is the glory of longevity.