http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1178/polarized-partisan-gap-in-obama-approval-historic



Obama is proving to be the most polarizing presidents of all time.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1178/polarized-partisan-gap-in-obama-approval-historic



Obama is proving to be the most polarizing presidents of all time.


What is the surprise here?

The Democrats are ecstatic to have the Republicans out of power after they allowed so much of our tradition and history and constitutional law and alliances and financial and industrial base to be so thoroughly devastated by a Republican administration that was more akin to a gang of mafioso in their greedy striving for power and disdain for any not in their circle.

The Republicans are furious at losing the White House again, just as with the Clinton victory in '92. They will stop at almost nothing to make the Democratic leadership look bad so that they might hope to win some seats back in the next election cycle. The concern is more about the balance of power than the health and safety of the country, and unfortunately it would be pretty much the same if the victors were reversed.

The country was polarized before Obama even considered running, and it is not going to get better by too much of a margin in my lifetime, I fear. But it will help to continue making rich people like Glen Beck, Chris Mathews, Keith Olbermann and Rush Limbaugh, and any of the multitude of talking heads who have found a niche pandering to the ignorant; those too lazy or lacking sufficient intelligence to actually look for information on their own, rather than having their opinions spoon fed to them by bombastic blowhards.

No no.. Barry promised to save the world.

Funny thing is if he did Os, you'd still hate him and accuse him of bringing down the country. You are blinded by partisanship.

It's sad irony that the inhabitants of a bunker mentality have their delusions reinforced by failures and subject themselves to further irrelevance; ultimately becoming their own final victims, but not before dragging everything they can touch down with them.

No matter how many times this happens, the people who need to learn, never do.

Check the independents.

Like 67% Favorable. That's damn good.

The moderate Republicans will come along. The insane, end of times, zomg he is a marxist, fascist, gun grabber Glenn Beck stuff will fade because it is not sustainable for long periods of time in the face of reality.

The closer we get to the midterm elections, the harder it is for the moderates to stand close to the crazies. The Michelle Bachmanns of the political world make a pretty good case for abandoning the Crazy Ship, the USS GOP.

He is 100% going to get Health Care and Education across the line in this budget. Energy will most likely get shot down. His Cap and Trade isnt that good.

The only potential political hazard I see is the EFCA. Without Unions at grassroots levels, its going to be hard to defeat as many Republican incumbants as the Dems are going to have available.

But even that.. I see Dems picking up 2+ Senate seats. Penn (Specter) and NH (Judd), with possible pick ups in Ohio and North Caroline (Burr). Its going to be harder in the House as Dems have probably taken all the low hanging fruit in the last two election cycles.... but I think they can still take out 5 to 10 Republican incumbants.

In the event of a fracturing of the GOP, it would be interesting to see if we ended up with a reformed GOP or a plurality system in the aftermath. The weight of existing law makes it very hard to start a third party, but it would be conceivably possible for one as large as the GOP to split and still maintain the financial and constituent base to not get hit by all the ballot restriction measures.

It's easy to knock the GOP around now, but candidates of similar value-oriented platforms minus the looney baggage not so much.

There are some strong Republican voices with good positioning potential out there..

David Frum, Charlie Crist and John Thune come to mind. Gingrich is far too toxic to turn it around, but he is plenty smart.

The problem is the very worst possible people are running the show and setting the agenda. Obama, if nothing else, is driving some conservatives so bat shit crazy that they are unable to come up with a organized, coherant, intelligent rebuttal.

Its basically what we see Osg doing here, wild flailing around.

2010 is shaping up to be another bloodletting.

'Its basically what we see Osg doing here, wild flailing around.'

- No shit.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04082009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/os_amateur_hour_163368.htm

LOL

For you OSG - Watch the video :)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/08/baracknophobia-hannity-ba_n_184568.html

The comment in the article about he is one step from smooching with dude form Iran made me laugh.

Got to love those opinion based slam peices, guess Bush got enough of them its only inevitable that Obama will.

The NY Post...gosh...it's almost like the same company that owns that paper owns Fox News....

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090401/capt.773ffd671ed94927aa537d663380c4cd.britain_g20_ palace_lon305.jpg?x=400&y=317&q=85&sig=K8Qbm54DpacFU5XO_dr3tw--


That's right Barry show fealty to your prince.. Bow down Barry..

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090401/capt.773ffd671ed94927aa537d663380c4cd.britain_g20_ palace_lon305.jpg?x=400&y=317&q=85&sig=K8Qbm54DpacFU5XO_dr3tw--


That's right Barry show fealty to your prince.. Bow down Barry..

LOL

First a walk in the park, hand in hand...

http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.image?id=10168

Then a kiss goodnight...
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2008/01/0115_george_bush_getty.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l176/musiclover1992/BushSaudiKing.jpg

You lose!

Interesting thing i got from that chart was how every new president the gulf widens between the "blue" and "red" sides. starting to think the nation really is becoming so divided co-exsistance is in jeapordy.

Osg, no slam meant here but i really think you don't understand the game of politics at all.

LMAO, owned by Jedd. how sad.

LOL

First a walk in the park, hand in hand...

http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.image?id=10168

Then a kiss goodnight...
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2008/01/0115_george_bush_getty.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l176/musiclover1992/BushSaudiKing.jpg

You lose!


Brokeback Sand dune?

On 7 April 2009, during a very short visit to Baghdad, Obama refused outright to apologize to the troops whom he said repeatedly in public could not and would not defeat al Qaeda in Iraq, nor would he admit he was 100% wrong in his assessment of our forces' warfighting abilities.





Think I'll let the other thread fall by the wayside since it has grown convoluted with leftist prattle.

On 7 April 2009, during a very short visit to Baghdad, Obama refused outright to apologize to the troops whom he said repeatedly in public could not and would not defeat al Qaeda in Iraq, nor would he admit he was 100% wrong in his assessment of our forces' warfighting abilities.

Think I'll let the other thread fall by the wayside since it has grown convoluted with leftist prattle.

He has never been wrong about the war fighting abilities of our military. You on the other hand have some retarded grossly misinformed typical chicken hawk view of war.

Funny how the President garners a huge amount of support amongst the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Rover, they are bound by thier oath to support the Commander in Chief. Asking a soldier what they think about the President isn't exactly getting a unbiased opinion. Just as many soldiers supported Bush as now support Obama. You and I both know, you support the Commander in Chief no matter what.

Rover, they are bound by thier oath to support the Commander in Chief. Asking a soldier what they think about the President isn't exactly getting a unbiased opinion. Just as many soldiers supported Bush as now support Obama. You and I both know, you support the Commander in Chief no matter what.


Really? There I was thinking that the President was just the top in the chain of command, all those years of being wrong...go figure. I thought that whole protect and defend the constitution was the oath, my mistake.

And no, not every person in the military supports those above them in the chain of command. Obama has the support because his leadership abilities are apparent to those in positions that are directly affected by his policies in those places they find themselves.

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Game, set, match.

and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice

Yeah...that's called chain of command, it's not supporting the CiC...

Checkmate!

When Bush Sr. told us to kick Saddam out of Kuwait, we did just that. I don't remember one person I served with saying anything against it.
When Bill Clinton told us to "do more with less" we learned how to do exactly that. And as soon as I opened my mouth about it, I was put out.

So you see, if you do happen to not support the CiC, or say anything out of line, you don't have a career in the military for very long....

Some soldiers are democrats.

Some soldiers are republicans.


Now stop playing retard chess.

Some soldiers are democrats.

Some soldiers are republicans.


Now stop playing retard chess.

Srsly.

LOL, these last several back and forths with Sixee and rover reminded me of the night I spent in Oakland waiting to fly out to Viet Nam; we were watching President Nixon on the television addressing the nation and stating that he would not send any further troops to that country, but instead was going to start pulling them out. I called him a lying piece of shit (and got a rousing cheer), then boarded a plane the next morning, got my ass blown up in the place I was not going to be sent to, and watched several years later as our troops were pulled out and Saigon fell.

We really need to keep these politicians way the fuck out of war decisions.

Brokeback Sand dune?\

Hahaha

I didn't read any of the posts in this thread, but I'm proud when our President shows deference to another country.

I don't care if it's Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, whoever. We are the most powerful nation on this planet. It says a lot about the American character when our leader will respect, without question, the traditions of other nations.

P.S: Forgot the obligatory, FUCK SAUDI ARABIA!!!

P.S: Forgot the obligatory, FUCK SAUDI ARABIA!!!

While I agree completely the problem is as long as th US is such a oil dependant nation the President has no other choice than to paly nice to the Saudi's and other Opec nations.

I didn't read any of the posts in this thread, but I'm proud when our President shows deference to another country.

I don't care if it's Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, whoever. We are the most powerful nation on this planet. It says a lot about the American character when our leader will respect, without question, the traditions of other nations.

P.S: Forgot the obligatory, FUCK SAUDI ARABIA!!!


Then you are going to be really really proud you freakin' cards fan......

For the record I don't follow baseball just wanted to throw that in for effect :)

I guess this is the thread for it.

http://i.friendfeed.com/5e68047c1fbf1192f12f1aa9830515dae416ae54

I guess this is the thread for it.

http://i.friendfeed.com/5e68047c1fbf1192f12f1aa9830515dae416ae54

Heh, cute. Too soon to tell really if that is going to be the case, but it has always happened up to this point, so it is a tough one to call.

How I missed this hilarious gem is beyond me....


BASKIN-ROBBINS NEW ICE CREAM FLAVOR


In honor of the 44th President of the United States , Baskin-Robbins Ice Cream has introduced a new flavor; "Barocky Road".

Barocky Road is a blend of half Vanilla, half Chocolate, and surrounded by Nuts and Flakes. The Vanilla portion of the mix is not openly advertised and usually denied as an ingredient.

The Nuts and Flakes are all very bitter and hard to swallow. The cost is $100.00 per scoop.


When purchased it will be presented to you in a large beautiful cone, but then the Ice Cream is taken away and given to the person in line behind you. Thus you are left with an empty Wallet, no change, holding an empty cone, with no hope of getting any Ice Cream.


Are you feeling stimulated?


Don't forget to pay your taxes...... Tim Geithner and 12 million illegal aliens are depending on you!!!!

haha, surronded by flakes and nuts. thats funny,

P.S: Forgot the obligatory, FUCK SAUDI ARABIA!!!


Why not just say Fuck all the hippie tree hugging environmentalist /terrorists for not allowing us to provide for ourselves the energy to run this country.

Why not just say Fuck all the hippie tree hugging environmentalist /terrorists for not allowing us to provide for ourselves the energy to run this country.


You mean like solar, wind and water power?

Sure as long as I dont have to hear or see the windmills, have my eyes blinded from the solar arrays and my fishing fucked from dams.

Sure as long as I dont have to hear or see the windmills, have my eyes blinded from the solar arrays and my fishing fucked from dams.


Seeing Oil derricks are ok? Having your fishing fucked from oil spills is ok? Solar cells point up...you fly and look down alot?

Some of the best fishing I've done has been done on the lake side od a dam.

my fishing fucked from dams

Hydroelectric is NOT part of the green energy movement. as a matter of fact mant Dams are bieng dismantled due to thier negative impact on fish populations.

Tidal is the new direction bieng pursued here. the US Navy recently joined my local electric company in testing seafloor turbines in Puget sound. so far the results are far exceeding the expectations.

Blinded by solar panels? Really?

Sorry to inform ya man, but Oil and Coal gotta go Bro!

Sure as long as I dont have to hear or see the windmills, have my eyes blinded from the solar arrays and my fishing fucked from dams.


This is about the dumbest thing I've read in a few days here.

Congratulations, you have gained a skill (Idiocy 134)

Sure as long as I dont have to hear or see the windmills, have my eyes blinded from the solar arrays and my fishing fucked from dams.I'll pretend you're joking, since others have already roasted you a bit. This statement does sum up the issue with power - we know the solutions, but many people, especially Americans, are unwilling to sacrifice anything from their high energy wasting lives to accommodate better environmental policies or sustainable resources. Interestingly the issue is continually clouded by ties to global warming, which is still debated. The real issue, stated here and other places many times, is a combination of some very nasty polution and entire nations living far beyond their means when it comes to consumption.

Interestingly the issue is continually clouded by ties to global warming, which is still debated.

Global warming is still debated only in the same sense that evolution is still debated.

What do you mean?, we all know fossils are just cleverly designed tests of faith.

Global warming is still debated only in the same sense that evolution is still debated.


You're kidding me.

ya i know.. seriously...

Some people still don't believe in evolution.

You're kidding me.

I only wish I was.

Climate change or CO2 changing the climate? IMO, while the former is obviously truth, the later is exaggerated at best.

Yea San, I think that pretty well sums it up.

The earth is warming. Full Stop.

After that? Who knows...

But I tell you what.. its a good improvement. We have moved off the "Its not happening, blah blah" to at least a real debate. The patient is sick.. lets find out why.

You guys will believe anything.

Coming from the dude who gets his news from chain emails... lol?


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Satellite imagery from the National Snow and Ice Data Center at the University of Colorado at Boulder reveals that a 13,680 square kilometer (5,282 square mile) ice shelf has begun to collapse because of rapid climate change in a fast-warming region of Antarctica.

British Antarctic Survey has captured dramatic satellite and video images of an Antarctic ice shelf that looks set to be the latest to break out from the Antarctic Peninsula. A large part of the Wilkins Ice Shelf on the Antarctic Peninsula is now supported only by a thin strip of ice hanging between two islands. It is another identifiable impact of climate change on the Antarctic environment.

Scientists monitoring satellite images of the Wilkins Ice Shelf spotted that a huge (41 by 2.5 km) km2 berg the size of the Isle of Man appears to have broken away in recent days -- it is still on the move.

Glaciologist Ted Scambos from the University of Colorado alerted colleagues Professor David Vaughan and Andrew Fleming of the British Antarctic Survey (BAS) that the ice shelf looked at risk. After checking daily satellite pictures, BAS sent a Twin Otter aircraft on a reconnaissance mission to check out the extent of the breakout.

Jim Elliott was onboard the BAS Twin Otter to capture video of the breakout for Vaughan and colleagues. He says,

"I've never seen anything like this before -- it was awesome. We flew along the main crack and observed the sheer scale of movement from the breakage. Big hefty chunks of ice, the size of small houses, look as though they've been thrown around like rubble -- it's like an explosion."

You guys will believe anything.

I categorically don't believe in anything.

You guys will believe anything.


Maybe once I believed in anything, but then I caught it going behind my back with something leaving me alone with nothing.

/shrug Things change.

Global warming is still debated only in the same sense that evolution is still debated.Which, valid or not, is still debated. With scientists on both sides of the debate, it's hard to pass legislation dealing with the problem. Pollution and the short term effects on health and the environment are easy to prove. We have days in Phoenix where portions of the population are advised not to go outside. We can also demonstrate how far beyond our means we live in the US. Making the drive for alternative energies about global warming was, in my opinion, a major gaff. I think if we had gone the other direction we would have seen much more progress by now.

Which, valid or not, is still debated. With scientists on both sides of the debate

Neither of the debates have peer-reviewed science on both sides. It's only on one, with a lot of charts and graphs and screaming monkeys throwing their crap on the the other side, which while often impressive in presentations, is not science. You can broaden the definition wide enough, and then there is science on the side of smoking being good for you too ... but that has been known wrong since the 1960s. Fifty years on there is still screaming and crying, but it's not debate, and it's not science.

Sic transit.

You don't have to convince me, you have to convince the millions out there opposing alternative energy sources. I'm not saying it's a smart counterargument, but you can't deny that the counterargument exists.

I believe in global warming however I'm also fairly sure we don't know the real cause of it. Anything done to lessen our own impact is a good thing imho. Though I don't know what we can do about a shifting global axis or varying input from the sun ;(

BEHOLD!

Your Republican Party/Conservative Movement.

kwdOwgD5OsY


"Burn all the books!"

BEHOLD!

Your Republican Party/Conservative Movement.


"Burn all the books!"

LOl...I saw this earlier...

Sure as long as I dont have to hear or see the windmills, have my eyes blinded from the solar arrays and my fishing fucked from dams.


Perhaps you were just being sarcastic, but no matter what it is, or how good an idea it is or how many people it will help on the long run, it all comes back to this:

http://www.cyburbia.org/gallery/data/6160/card_nimby.jpg

The more things change.......

On 9 April 2009, after repeated questions from reporters about the pirate hostage crisis, Obama refused to answer, saying he could focus that day only on one thing: the housing and mortgage situation, despite his promising during the campaign that he was best qualified to handle multiple problems that might face his regime.


On 10 April 2009, the AP reported that Obama was throwing a 140-guest pizza party at the White House and that Obama ordered the pizzas to be made fresh in the White House by the owner and chefs from Pi Pizza. The catch: Pi Pizza is in St. Louis. Obama had the owner and chef gather up all the ingredients and pans and fly to the White House to personally prepare the pizzas, this as Americans are losing their homes and jobs and businesses.

On 13 April 2009, The Ayro forums reported that Osgiliath666 is a fool :)

On 9 April 2009, after repeated questions from reporters about the pirate hostage crisis, Obama refused to answer

And under his orders we capped the Mutha fuckers 3 for 3, try again.(could insert reall really bad racial joke here, but won't)

On 10 April 2009, the AP reported that Obama was throwing a 140-guest pizza party at the White House and that Obama ordered the pizzas to be made fresh in the White House by the owner and chefs from Pi Pizza. The catch: Pi Pizza is in St. Louis. Obama had the owner and chef gather up all the ingredients and pans and fly to the White House to personally prepare the pizzas, this as Americans are losing their homes and jobs

saw a litle show not long ago about the Whitehouse kitchens, those guys are badassed. kinda like the NAVY Seals of the culinary world. sorta been that way for the hmm..last 44 presidents.

Crists sakes man your the PUSA, feed the dude well and call it a job perk!

Really man if thats the best the right wing is left with to down on just commit seppuku and get it over with!

They're not the right wing, they're the we want to live in America for free crowd...never serve the country and pay no taxes and expect all of this for free. The biggest bunch of bums to ever live here.

I can't wait to hear the screams about him accepting a gift from Sen. Kennedy (the puppy for his daughters) and whether he needs to claim it on his financial report. :rolleyes:

On 9 April 2009, after repeated questions from reporters about the pirate hostage crisis, Obama refused to answer, saying he could focus that day only on one thing: the housing and mortgage situation, despite his promising during the campaign that he was best qualified to handle multiple problems that might face his regime.


On 10 April 2009, the AP reported that Obama was throwing a 140-guest pizza party at the White House and that Obama ordered the pizzas to be made fresh in the White House by the owner and chefs from Pi Pizza. The catch: Pi Pizza is in St. Louis. Obama had the owner and chef gather up all the ingredients and pans and fly to the White House to personally prepare the pizzas, this as Americans are losing their homes and jobs and businesses.


Loon Watch...why does the so called right always bet against America?

http://www.dailykostv.com/w/001151/

Dailykos Rover? Seriously? ROFL

On 13 April 2009, the Associated Press reported that despite Obama's promise to acquire a dog for their daughters from a shelter, Bo, a Portuguese Water Dog or PWD, came from a breeder linked to the Kennedy clan. The Humane Society expressed disappointed in the president's decision to not follow through with his promise.

In April 2009, Obama attempted to nominate Caroline Kennedy to be the US ambassador to the Vatican. Kennedy, who is pro-abortion, was instantly rejected by the Pope. Why Obama felt the Pope would accept a pro-abortion ambassador remains a mystery.

Dailykos Rover? Seriously? ROFL

So The video of Newt, Beck and all of the other faux news morons talking about how Obama was hiding from the pirates is invalid because it's on Daily Kos?

Shouldn't you be off trying to figure out how to live here for free?

so your ammo Osi includes dog slection and pizza???

Man never investigate me, or we'll have Jellogate.

On 13 April 2009, the Associated Press reported that despite Obama's promise to acquire a dog for their daughters from a shelter, Bo, a Portuguese Water Dog or PWD, came from a breeder linked to the Kennedy clan. The Humane Society expressed disappointed in the president's decision to not follow through with his promise.

In April 2009, Obama attempted to nominate Caroline Kennedy to be the US ambassador to the Vatican. Kennedy, who is pro-abortion, was instantly rejected by the Pope. Why Obama felt the Pope would accept a pro-abortion ambassador remains a mystery.

The dog thing is just retarded...can't call it anything else


LOL...because the Vatican will take a pro war ambassador and Obama figured since they ignore that basic tenant of the Catholic Religion someone being pro-choice shouldn't really matter?

Here comes the conservative lockdown.... Yes this is indeed the land of the free.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94803
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/14/federal-agency-warns-of-radicals-on-right/

Drudge front page as well....

oh and for some comedy relief from OBama wiping his ass with the constitution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHkGIR1xb5E

I commend the department of homeland security on focusing on a dangerous group.

Its a pretty fucked up situation. Vets coming home are extremely disenfranchised by the Bush/Rummy VA. 1 in 4 homeless people are Veterans... of that 67% are vets of the Iraq/Afgan wars.

So they are angry, confused, and in desperate need of help.

It is no secret that hate groups have been making inroads into the US military for some time.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/07/washington/07recruit.html
http://thestory.org/archive/the_story_58_Military_Skinheads.mp3/view

Combine this with other factors and you have a provocative mix.

JzDHd1GWKHc

If they want to put the kabosh on this, a major contribution would be to *FUND THE FUCKING VA*. We owe it to the vets, past present and future.

Slightly a tangent, but a couple guys at work the other day were talking about how difficult it is to find ammunition these days; one went to four separate Wal-Marts with no success in getting any ammo for his 45.

There has been a run on ammo and weapons, which can be verified by a visit to almost any gun seller. FOX News and Rush should be getting some kind of kick-back.


Also, wanted to thank Lleauric for the links on hate groups; very informative.

I've been watching Wal-Mart for 9mm for a couple months now, with almost no luck.

About a week ago, I was there late at night for something else and stopped by the case to see if they had any. They miraculously did have a new shipment of dozens and dozens of boxes, but there was no one in the store that "could" open the case and log into the particular register that can sell ammo.

I figured I'd just come back the next day and there would be plenty. Nope. Not a box left 12 hours later.

hmmm...i will investigate this here. I live in a pretty rural area compared to most, with tons of gun owners. I will report my findings.

I haven't checked recently, does the shortage extend to .22 ammo? I was hoping to sight in my Ruger 10/22 sometime soon.

I don't know about nationwide, but at my Wal-Mart there's rarely anything but bird shot left. However, there's plenty of everything but 9mm at the gun stores nearby.

I don't know about nationwide, but at my Wal-Mart there's rarely anything but bird shot left. However, there's plenty of everything but 9mm at the gun stores nearby.

Surprising. I would expect 45 and 357, and maybe 44, would all be scarce. The manufactured "threat" that sweeping changes were on the way regarding gun laws seems to have done a great job in this economy of keeping certain businesses afloat. "Sorry kids, but it's mac and cheese again tonight; I had to grab a couple more boxes of ammo before that commie in the White House gets his way."

Not saying anyone here would be fitting that caricature, but it does come to mind when I hear the guys at work talking about the ammo shortages they are seeing.

It gets better every day. (http://mediamatters.org/countyfair/200904140032?f=cf_clips)


Glenn Beck talking up Secession. No radicalism here, its not like we ever had a war over this or anything.

Fucking idiot.

OUt here in rural colorado the only thing that is impossible to get is .223 for all of our AR's... .22 and the like are plenty.

Good for Texas..

HEadline from Drudge.


WAKE UP CALL: TEXAS GOV. BACK RESOLUTION AFFIRMING SOVEREIGNTY
Tue Apr 14 2009 08:44:54 ET

AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry joined state Rep. Brandon Creighton and sponsors of House Concurrent Resolution (HCR) 50 in support of states’ rights under the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

“I believe that our federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Gov. Perry said. “That is why I am here today to express my unwavering support for efforts all across our country to reaffirm the states’ rights affirmed by the Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I believe that returning to the letter and spirit of the U.S. Constitution and its essential 10th Amendment will free our state from undue regulations, and ultimately strengthen our Union.”

Perry continued: "Millions of Texans are tired of Washington, DC trying to come down here to tell us how to run Texas."

[VIDEO]

A number of recent federal proposals are not within the scope of the federal government’s constitutionally designated powers and impede the states’ right to govern themselves. HCR 50 affirms that Texas claims sovereignty under the 10th Amendment over all powers not otherwise granted to the federal government.

It also designates that all compulsory federal legislation that requires states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties, or that requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding, be prohibited or repealed.

Developing...

Good for Texas..

HEadline from Drudge.


WAKE UP CALL: TEXAS GOV. BACK RESOLUTION AFFIRMING SOVEREIGNTY
Tue Apr 14 2009 08:44:54 ET

AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry joined state Rep. Brandon Creighton and sponsors of House Concurrent Resolution (HCR) 50 in support of states’ rights under the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

“I believe that our federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Gov. Perry said. “That is why I am here today to express my unwavering support for efforts all across our country to reaffirm the states’ rights affirmed by the Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I believe that returning to the letter and spirit of the U.S. Constitution and its essential 10th Amendment will free our state from undue regulations, and ultimately strengthen our Union.”

Perry continued: "Millions of Texans are tired of Washington, DC trying to come down here to tell us how to run Texas."

[VIDEO]

A number of recent federal proposals are not within the scope of the federal government’s constitutionally designated powers and impede the states’ right to govern themselves. HCR 50 affirms that Texas claims sovereignty under the 10th Amendment over all powers not otherwise granted to the federal government.

It also designates that all compulsory federal legislation that requires states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties, or that requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding, be prohibited or repealed.

Developing...

LOL

HAHAHAHAHAHA idiots

I bet they still take the money.

anyway.. This strongly worded statement is bound to have HUDGE and SERIES impact.

http://gawker.com/5211635/rick-perry-10th-amendment-champion
Texas Governor Rick Perry is furious that Texas is losing its sovereignty, because of the Stimulus Bill, and so he is striking back with strongly worded statements about how much he hates the feds.

"States' rights" is usually just code for "racism," but in Rick Perry's case he is just mad as hell about how he is being forced to spend billions of dollar in federal stimulus money in ways the federal government demands, rather than just blowing it on bribing Rush Limbaugh to move to Austin or whatever.

So he joined some state legislators in supporting a Texas House bill affirming Texas' sovereignty under the 10th Amendment.

It also designates that all compulsory federal legislation that requires states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties, or that requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding, be prohibited or repealed

Yes well we hope they do pass this bill, mostly because of that last bit, about the federal funding "incentives" for passing new laws. That was a favorite tool of Reagan and Bush II, who used it to raise the drinking age and enforce federal marijuana laws with raids on legal medicinal marijuana clinics and other fun things like those (and the Supreme Court has said that it's kosher).

If Texas actually becomes a legal underaged .10 blood-alcohol content spliff-smoking 100-mph libertarian autobahn paradise we will take Perry at his word, that he is concerned about the constitution and not just looking to aid his reelection bid by going hard-line anti-feds making him help poor people. Also if all that happens we might just move there! Who doesn't love getting wasted and speeding with high school seniors?

So don't you dare give Rick Perry some of the money necessary to fund the state's bankrupt unemployment trust fund and expect him to do something about that forthcoming $750 million shortfall! (He would really appreciate more federal help with those wildfires, though!)

Haha.. seriously.. though.. Drinking age is now 18 in Texas! New spring break hotspot!

I am sure it's symbolic but I would like to see the US broken up into 3 or 4 sections. Move away from all you whack job commie nutjobs or make you move away from me.. either works.

I bet they still take the money.

Of course they'll take the money...but if it keeps that idiot Perry on the front page he'll do it.

I am sure it's symbolic but I would like to see the US broken up into 3 or 4 sections. Move away from all you whack job commie nutjobs or make you move away from me.. either works.


LOL yea.. Im sure. You would be living in a 3rd world country dumbass.

My state (CT) takes in $0.73 from the fed for every dollar it spends.
My region the Northeast, takes in .89 for every dollar.

The South is money loser... Only texas and florida barely break even at .95 and .97 respectively. The rest of the South is basically living on Welfare, with some states like Mississippi spending 2 bucks of fed money for every dollar they send back.

Good luck with all that.

Sounds good to me Ll. I'll take a Cali, Oregon, Washinton hegemony FTW. we'll form a 3 state confederation and be an economic powerhouse. don't worry i'm sure the canadians will be more than willing allow a trade corridor for a modest tariff to supply the North Eastern Alliance with Asian goods and fine Napa wines.

let the Middle and the South follow Texas lead right down the shitter!!

Bottom line is guys like Osg and the teabaggers are all upset that a Black Man was elected president.

That's obviously not a correct blanket statement.

Texas would fair slightly better on its own that the Federal burden versus disbursement would indicate, being they make substantial money from other states by exporting fuel and energy and transit taxes.

That's obviously not a correct blanket statement.


It is damn close

Using a stereotype to accuse them of stereotyping? Cute.

Bottom line is guys like Osg and the teabaggers are all upset that a Black Man was elected president.

What happened to his white mother? And why are you bringing race into this again you racist piece of human filth... I don't care what color he is.. the dude is a douche. Rover you racist pig.

“I believe that our federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Gov. Perry said.




Where was this outrage when Dubya was trampling the constitution with his patriot act authority to listen to your phone calls, check your library usage, monitor your banking transactions, etc?

Perry is a phony politician looking for votes for the next cycle of elections, nothing more.

What happened to his white mother? And why are you bringing race into this again you racist piece of human filth... I don't care what color he is.. the dude is a douche. Rover you racist pig.

Try as you may, once again you fail...much like everything else you do. You fail so much it's like it is in your DNA.

It really doesn't need to be said but it is clearly obvious that you are, always have been and always will be a person who is so shallow that someones race, creed or color is something you judge them by.

Please stop your failing ways...it is however interesting to watch the train wreck that is your life.

wut? You made no sense. If your chest hurting again? take your nitro pills old man.

Yea.

Texas would be ok. Big Population, lots of coastline, international border... The rest of the south.. not so much.

Rick Perry should man up and reject all Federal money. Do it all on your own!

I got a pretty good laugh at the Obama administration new terms for "Pirate".. Would not want to offend anyone now would we?


Terms authorized for use by Americans to replace the offensive term "pirate":

"Semi-autonomous commercial mariners"

"Irregular maritime entrepreneurs"

"Quasi-independent unorthodox seafarers"

Texas is hardly the only state doing this. Arizona, Hawaii, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, New Hampshire, Oklahoma and Washington have all introduced similar resolutions to be voted on in their legislatures. Several more are expected to do so, including several larger states like California and Pennsylvania.

IMO it is all just a form of political protest to tell the federal government to scale back it's activities. I personally doubt any of these states will turn away federal funding when push comes to shove.

There is nothing of the sort happening in PA. There might be a republican state rep in those states that is introducing legislation that will never pass. Most people really don't give a shit about the states rights things, they just want stuff to run smoothly and be funded.

There is nothing of the sort happening in PA. There might be a republican state rep in those states that is introducing legislation that will never pass. Most people really don't give a shit about the states rights things, they just want stuff to run smoothly and be funded.

Woe be unto the fools that actually give two shits about the seperation between Federal and state powers!

There is nothing of the sort happening in PA.

Here's your guy:

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Apparently not just talking to himself:

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Not that it's going to get any serious support in your state legislature.

Yeah, I should be clear. These are states where resolutions are being introduced to the legislatures for a vote. It does not mean these states have approved the resolutions yet. Some will, some won't.

Here's your guy:



Apparently not just talking to himself:



Not that it's going to get any serious support in your state legislature.

It will get no serious support. Saying there is a "movement" in Pennsylvania is really way overstating it. Rendell is Governor, Bob Casey Jr and Arlen Spector are the senators and the main state senator in Berks is a guy named Mike Opake...there is not one there in opposition to the stimulus and I'm pretty sure Berks county will be seeing the last of its republican representatives in the very near future. Also notice that the Video from Harrisburg has as many reporters as so called protesters totalling about 75 each.

Don't worry ******** I am here. Busy night last night out at the mall so slept in. Now I am enjoying a book and watching Glenn Beck before I decide what I want for breakfast. Re-reading a great book By Ted Nudgent. Ted, White and Blue The Nudget Manifesto. great read.













why did it edit ********s name?

As much as a small percentage of people would love to fragment the Union, it would never happen without prior catastrophe.

First off, who would get all the nuclear weapons? Most of them are in areas with low land value, such as the South and the more arid areas of the West and Rockies.

Next, what about water usage rights? This is already becoming ugly with the nation united. A fragmented Union would have this issue leading to war between the 4 newly created nations as its a fair chance that the water shed areas of rivers and the cities that devour all the water won't be in the same region, which is the case now with the Colorado River.

Which also brings up defense. If all things were created equal, than it would be no issue but some regions have quite a bit more to spend than others. That goes for education and other public programs. It would be easy for the wealthier coastal regions to steamroll the central and southern areas or bleed them dry through migration away from the piss poor offerings.

Ultimate the country would end up re-united because the more prosperous areas could invade and annex the weaker, because its doubtful the 4 areas could peacefully co-exist. The Fed is the clamp holding the pressure cooker together and it just would not work any other way. So, in spite of politics creating vast divides and polarity, it would seem as if though its better to make this dysfunctional country work. Another civil war would probably bring about a second Dark Ages.

Ted was better as a musician and the poster child for bow hunting. As a political figure he is just another hack to carry the banner next to the supreme hack, our buddy Rush. The Republicans are becoming more and more a cult of dittoheads than a real political voice for the people with each passing day.

On 7 April 2009, the Obama regime released to law enforcement an "assessment" that informed recipients of the report of how military veterans, gun owners, pro-lifers, pro-soveriegnty, anti-illegal immigration and other conservative Americans could be terrorists who might attack the homeland. The DHS document was roundly debunked by a variety of organizations as a piece of liberal trash meant to incite fear and distrust of conservatives.

On 14 April 2009, North Korea, despite Obama claiming repeatedly that he would get the to listen to reason, pulled out of the six-party talks, ordered UN inspectors out of the country, and announced it was restarting its nuke program.

On 13 April 2009, Obama's nominee for Secretary of Health and Human Services, Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, admitted falsely reporting to the Congress that she had received only $12,000 from infamous Kansas late-term abortionist George Tiller, and that she really accepted $35,000.

On 15 April 2009, the Times of London reported on French President Sarkozy's insulting remarks and very negative opinions on Obama, calling Obama's ideas "rhetoric," saying Obama is naive, that most of his proposals came from the Bush administration, that Obama's climate plans were behind those of Europe and his tax plans were unsatisfactory. The stream of insults received wide coverage in the French press as well.

On 16 April 2009, NBC reported that the White House had requested Georgetown University cover up the IHS symbol for Jesus in Gaston Hall for Obama's speech there. The university admitted this was true and that it had complied with the request from the Obama regime to places drapes over the symbol that would have appeared behind and above Obama during his speech.

On 16 April 2009, DHS Secretary Napolitano apologized to veterans for insulting them in her department's 7 April 2009 "assessment" that veterans may become domestic terrorists and attack the homeland using their combat skills.

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OMG that's actually pretty funny... I'd buy it.

Had they not asked for the symbol to be covered the right wingers would have spent weeks frothing at the mouth about how it was a sign Obama planed to push the "radical" black religous agenda AKA rev. Wright on good white christians.

Sarkozy' a dip shit who's pussy is still sore Obame interceded and prevented him from making an ass of himself at the G12(or whatever # they are up to)

The DHS thing. yea that was a fuck up. while a legitimate concern and that is the Depts. job to stay aware and alert of every possible threat. it was wordered pretty piss poor indeed.
What I find refreshing is that Neopolatin stepped up and admitted so and apoligized. something we would have NEVER seen from the prevous Administration.

On 16 April 2009, Obama regime Department of Education Sec. Arne Duncan signed a Joint Statement of Exchange and Cooperation with the Chinese Minister of Education Zhou Ji. The Chinese government is listed by the State Department as a nation that operates massive and brutal "re-education camps" for dissidents, some of whom do not survive the horrific conditions and violence for which the camps are infamous. Obama claimed during his campaign that he would be the best human rights president.

On 22 April 2009, the Obama regime asked a federal court to throw out a lawsuit filed by Americans held hostage for 444 days by the terrorist regime of Iran during the Carter administration. The suit seeks $6.6 billion from the genocidal terrorist regime, but the Obama regime, siding with the terrorists, says an agreement between Carter and the terrorists disallows the suit.

On "Earth Day" 2009, Obama made two Air Force One (Boeing 747) flights and four Marine One (Sikorsky VH-3D Sea King) flights to places like Des Moines to make speeches about the importance of using less carbon-based fuel, like jet juel and helicopter fuel. He used more than 9,000 gallons of fuel during those flights and the aircraft dumped huge amounts of toxic pollutants into the air while doing so.

In April 2009, Obama appointed Rosa Brooks to the position of advisor to the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, a highly influential and coveted position which will grant her access to huge amounts of the nation's most sensistive national security and military secrets. Brooks, a former LA Times columnist who has railed against Jews and a radical leftist who worked for billionaire extremist Socialist George Soros, has publicly sided with al Qaeda in its war against America. She has no military experience whatsoever.

On 20 April 2009, The New York Times reported that Obama was considering coverting the preferred stock it owns in banks that took TARP funds into common stock, which would give the regime voting rights on each bank's policies and management, which is a key factor in socialism in that Obama would be able to control credit via controlling the banks, and thus the economy.

On 23 April 2009, Rasmussen Reports published a poll that said 58% of Americans believe Obama damaged national security by releasing the once Top Secret memos on enhanced interrogation techniques of al Qaeda terrorists. Only 28% said in the telephone poll that the release was helpful.

LOL, so now your concerned with pollution levels Osg? what happened to "drill, baby, drill"?

LOL, so now your concerned with pollution levels Osg? what happened to "drill, baby, drill"?

Osg is doing a great job of representing the Republican Party, which has no rudder atm and is grasping at any and all straws in the hopes of gaining some relevance once more in the political arena, not by demonstrating any positive plans or abilities to move the country forward but rather by trying to make the WINNERS of the last election look like their plan is a bad one.

Nay you young man.. I am not concerned about the environment in the slightest. Merely pointing out the irony of the liberal left.

Osi why dont you just link the site you cut and paste from...would save you lots of wasted time.

04/29/2009:

Health Care: The Obama White House cleared an important hurdle in the health care reform debate when it appropriated $19 billion in the stimulus package to help implement an electronic medical record system. The money is paltry compared to the hundreds of billions set aside for an overhaul of the health care system in the budget. But officials inside and out of the White House say it significance is hard to understate

"We need to have health IT so we have a better idea both of what works but also... so people can share information," Zeke Emanuel, Obama's health care adviser told the Huffington Post in mid-March. "We are on our way in a way that we have never committed ourselves before."

Communications: A presidential campaign built on innovative messaging and advanced technology has, naturally, become a White House defined by similar characteristics. As such, the reach of the administration's new media efforts - from hosting online question-and-answer sessions with the president to publishing the first White House blog - has been as expected as appreciated. It's unfortunate, said one tech savvy Democrat, because the new policies have had tangible impacts. "The White House streams every event with the president on its website, even press events," he said. "It's remarkable because, this Sunday they held a swine flu press conference that ordinary people [including many who may have been personally nervous about the topic] were able to watch online... Before you had to wait for a readout or hope that CSPAN would cover it. This is one of those things that people don't quite understand the significance of."

Transportation: Since the passage of the economic stimulus package in mid-February, the Obama Department of Transportation has approved 2,500 highway projects. The movement of stimulus money out the door has been as swift as it has been effective: $9.3 billion has been spent in all 50 states. Touting its impact, DOT officials say 260,000 jobs are expected from this investment. And with competition for contracts fierce, the department is set to approve even more projects than previously envisioned. "There will be more money for additional transportation projects," said the official.

Education: Maligned for its handling of the financial and banking crises, the Obama Treasury Department has nevertheless implemented policies with real qualitative and quantitative impact on debt-burdened families. Chief among those was a $2,500 tax credit to help offset the cost of tuition (among other expenses) for those seeking a college education. Nearly five million families are expected to save $9 billion, according to Treasury officials.

Cars: The automobile industry at the White House and Congress's behest has undergone seismic structural changes, managerial reorganization, and massive cuts in employment. But for all the tough love, the president has put in place the framework for an industry recovery. Perhaps the most significant of steps was to allocate $2 billion in stimulus cash for advanced batteries systems. One high-ranking Hill aide called battery technology "the next big frontier" in the automotive world, adding that if the U.S. could dominate this market it would reclaim its perch as the world's premier car manufacturer.

Pakistan: Cognizant of a destabilizing situation in Pakistan, the administration's diplomatic team, with a major assist from Japan, secured $5 billion in aid commitments "to bolster the country's economy and help it fight terror and Islamic radicalism" within the country. The money, as Pakistan observers -- notably Senate Foreign Relations Chairman John Kerry - note, will prove instrumental in bringing the nation away from the brink of failure and increased Taliban control.

Cities: More than any prior president, Obama has put a spotlight on America's struggling cities, even creating an office of Urban Policy in the White House. It is the Justice Department, however, that lays claim to one of the most consequential of urban affairs achievements. Through the Recovery Act, DOJ secured $2 billion for Byrne Grants, which funds anti-gang and anti-gun task forces. The money, cut during the Bush years, is expected to have massive ramifications on inner-city crime and violence.

Engaging the Muslim World: While certainly discussed, foreign affairs experts insist that Obama's engagement with the Muslim world has been at once remarkable and under-appreciated. From the first interview with Al Arabiya to his Nowruz address to the Iranian people, to his proclamation that "American is not at war with Islam" during an appearance in Turkey, seasoned observers have been routinely impressed. "Through these [statements and interviews]," said one Democratic foreign policy hand, "He has been able to dramatically change America's image in that region."

Forests: Since taking office, the White House has put under federal protection more than two million acres of wilderness, thousands of miles of river and a host of national trails and parks. The conservation effort - the largest in the last 15 years - came with the stroke of a pen when Obama signed the Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009 in late March.

Tone: Leaving a meeting at the White House on Tuesday a progressive member of the House of Representatives commented to the Huffington Post just how impressed she was with the president's manner. "He is so calm," said the member, "and has a great ability to make you feel like you're being respected and listened to."

It is not, necessarily, a unique observation. But among many Democrats and even casual observers Obama tone is cited as one of the chief catalysts for his outstanding early poll numbers. "Despite record job loss," said one Democratic aide, "there's still hope in America." Indeed, from the beginning of his presidency the percentage of people who believe the nation is headed in the right direction has risen from 19 percent to 42 percent, according to a recent ABC News-Washington Post Poll. Minus that calming influence, these numbers don't exist and neither does the Obama agenda as we know it.

Nay you young man.. I am not concerned about the environment in the slightest.

A true republican!

So..

Osg, some people can't seem to seperate the people from the issues around here. I.E. since you are bringing the issue about Obama flying about in helicopters, and burning fossil fuels, thus 'destroying the environment' you must be personally concerned about the environment, and not just pointing out the 'hypocrisy'. of the Administration.

You might want to preface future statements, so you don't confuse, the easily confused around here.

Yes cause denying the impact of the President on the issue is smart...

His traveling (the only way he can) to speak about these issues will impact the actions of Millions.

But he should just stay home and not damage the environment right?

Well, he COULD do it VIA the Intertubes....

You know, being innovative and whatnot.

Message gets out, environment not impacted. Win/win.

Well, he COULD do it VIA the Intertubes....

You know, being innovative and whatnot.

Message gets out, environment not impacted. Win/win.

So people 12-30 will get the message. Last time Obama did something online the most asked quesiton was aobut legalizing pot....that should speak volumes about the demographic of people who would watch (no offense Tal.)

So, older people would be more willing to show up to an in person appearance of the President, rather than log in?

Probably says more about the that demographic >30 years old (of which I am part of) than the President, in that case.

You do realize not everyone in the country has a computer, right?
If you told my grandmother she had to use the internet to see the President, she'd smack you around with her purse.

You do realize not everyone in the country has a computer, right?
If you told my grandmother she had to use the internet to see the President, she'd smack you around with her purse.

Tell her in an email and you're safe.

So people 12-30 will get the message. Last time Obama did something online the most asked quesiton was aobut legalizing pot....that should speak volumes about the demographic of people who would watch (no offense Tal.)

Hey you smoke pot too!! And seriously, if I got to ask the President one question, it wouldn't be about legalization of pot (I don't know what I'd ask, but it wouldn't be about that topic).

I'm sure she'd get all pissy if she'd have to watch the 'talking picture box' to see the President, as well.

Also, there are people that wouldn't like to have to listen to him on the radio either I suppose.

Nor recieve a letter from him.

I mean, certainly these people would benefit from hitching up the horses to the wagon, and traveling into town to actually see the President, in person.

Hey Taleren...have you been MIA here? How are things? Ok I hope...wife...kid(s) all good?

[sarcasm]Sixee, dear god i hate you./[sarcasm] Its simple fact, even myself would rather see the man in person than sit in front of the TV or PC and watch him.

Something to be said about laying your eyes on a guy when you hear them talk. Same reason most of us rather deal with a person IRL than navigate through a IVR system to get any kind of help.

It was much more impressive when I saw Obama speak in person last fall than anything I've watched on TV or the internet where he's spoken.

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Grey, you have to put the switch inside the brackets or all the sarcasm leaks out.

Now I really think you hate me....:(

So, in essence, it's ok to 'destroy' the environment as long as people want to see you in person.

Destroy? He'll have a far greater impact on the environment than everyone on this forum and our families and friends combined.

Some things just simply can't be helped. Its safer and faster for him to fly than drive, that's why we gave him a plane.

LOL, I didn't say destroy, I said 'destroy'. A bit of poking fun at the hysterical environmentalists that got up in arms whenever Dick Cheney or G.W. would get on a plane and fly anywhere. Of course the argument there could be, nobody wanted to see those two in person....;)

Safer and faster, I don't have a doubt. But if the man's mantra is "Change", he sure hasn't wow'd me with any innovations nor difference in the way things are done in Washington, as of yet. Looks like a whole lot more of the "Same".

We have passed the crucial 100 day mark, that many Presidents are judged by. Thanks FDR!

Another thing, if there is a terrorist attack on American soil in Obama's first 9 months, will he be the one to blame, like G.W. was? Or will G.W. take the fall for that, too?

But if the man's mantra is "Change", he sure hasn't wow'd me with any innovations nor difference in the way things are done in Washington, as of yet. Looks like a whole lot more of the "Same".

We have passed the crucial 100 day mark, that many Presidents are judged by. Thanks FDR!

Another thing, if there is a terrorist attack on American soil in Obama's first 9 months, will he be the one to blame, like G.W. was? Or will G.W. take the fall for that, too?

You mean like how Clinton was being blamed for 9/11?

As far as change, if you have not seen any "change" yet, maybe you need to take off the blindfold. I am not saying I agree with or support all that has been done in the first 100 days, and I am not saying that there are not some signs of the "Same" in that he has maintained some of the Bush positions, but at the same time it is not possible to ignore that this is a new era in American politics and how things are being done in Washington.

To do so is to have one's head stuck in the sand.

it is not possible to ignore that this is a new era in American politics and how things are being done in Washington.

To do so is to have one's head stuck in the sand.

How do you figure? Off the top of my head, in a rush:


We've got a Secretary of Agriculture tied to Monsanto.

We've got a Secretary of Treasury that might as well be on Goldman's payroll.

We've got a President and Congress paid for by lobbyists.

We've still got a completely opaque Federal Reserve stonewalling Congress and wielding financial power that eclipses anything Congress might do when it comes to the economy.

We've got a majority party bullying the minority party and calling that bi-partisan.

We've got a minority party putting their bitterness in front of our needs to spite the majority party.


Meanwhile, none of us are very well represented, while our "leaders" continue becoming more enriched and more powerful every day.

Seems about par for the course to me.

Very succinctly put. Obama's mantra thus far hasn't been 'change' but 'placate', and I've been disappointed, but not that surprised, at how much that's rotten in Denmark that he appears happy to ignore or bury in the name of 'looking forward'...

I'm glad that he doesn't show the same basic fear of empirical data as his predecessor, but he's awfully cozy with a lot of the same corporate lobbyocracy, and appears so far to be serving them to the detriment of the citizens who elected him with a mandate for reform. I didn't expect him to come out guns ablazing, storming the Bastille; but his complacency, and active complicity, with the some of the more corrupt and illegal elements/activities of the previous administration disturbs me as well (and I remarked during the primary campaign that he was in all liklihood no less complicit, or 'bought' if you prefer, than Ms. Clinton).

Perhaps he will be able to accomplish much of what he was tasked with (health care reform, etc) using the Clinton triangulation strategy; and perhaps at least we will end up with a more benign government which more humanely walks the same line balancing between serving its two masters. At least, that is the sense I get from the walk he is walking at the present time; he appears fundamentally unwilling to upset the apple cart, being as a matter of basic temperment possessed of that peculiar affliction wherein he believes that people are fundamentally good/noble and that their higher instincts can be appealed to, rather than threatened with the force of law, in order to serve something other than their own self-interests.

Regards,
Nydia

I agree with a lot of waht you says Nydia, my thoughts are perhaps he has to placate the existing system so he can work to change it. If he goes in guns blazing he quickly burns bridges, his policy gets snubbed and he ges 1 term of failure.

I agree with a lot of waht you says Nydia, my thoughts are perhaps he has to placate the existing system so he can work to change it. If he goes in guns blazing he quickly burns bridges, his policy gets snubbed and he ges 1 term of failure.


Well said, although poorly typed, hehe.

He has pulled the covers off the secrecy that was the hallmark of the Bush-Cheney cartel.

He has reached out to our former allies and attempted to soothe the animosity of the middle eastern countries that have been seeing America as the great evil.

He has overturned several of the last minute Bush regulations regarding endangered species, mining and the associated waste products, etc.

He has changed the rules on stem cell research.

He has set aside something like 2 million acres (or square miles, I forget) of lands to be protected.

He has redirected the military toward finishing the assault on the Taliban and Al-Queda(sp) and moving out of the Iraqi theatre of operations.


He has been in office 100 days, and I have no doubt whatsoever that he will not be able to satisfy everyone regardless of what he had done during that initial period. I think he has made some good preliminary moves, and look forward to whether he follows up or settles into the same old same old that is so often the norm.

I have grown tired of being so cynical that I am not willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the noob. Give him some time to prove himself.

How do you figure? Off the top of my head, in a rush:


We've got a Secretary of Agriculture tied to Monsanto.
We've got a Secretary of Treasury that might as well be on Goldman's payroll.
We've got a President and Congress paid for by lobbyists.
We've still got a completely opaque Federal Reserve stonewalling Congress and wielding financial power that eclipses anything Congress might do when it comes to the economy.
We've got a majority party bullying the minority party and calling that bi-partisan.
We've got a minority party putting their bitterness in front of our needs to spite the majority party.


Meanwhile, none of us are very well represented, while our "leaders" continue becoming more enriched and more powerful every day.

Seems about par for the course to me.


He could have allowed you to write the script for his first 100 days and you would not be satisfied, San. You are the proverbial grouser who is never going to be happy without something to complain about. It is why you are becoming so irrelevant, much like the Republican leaders are doing with their program of tearing down with no alternatives for building up.

On 29 April 2009, Obama, believing their is a vast right-wing conspiracy among racist judges against black crack addicts, requested that Congress vastly lower sentences. Obama, an admitted heavy abuser of cocaine, which he refers to in his autobiography as "blow," continues to refuse to answer questions pertaining to his suspected crack abuse.

http://www.slate.com/id/2217225/workarea/3/


wish I could c/p that.

My Friend Bob Cesca (http://www.bobcesca.com) sums it up with his writing on The Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/100-days-of-competence-ve_b_193218.html):

One of the most striking aspects of President Obama's first 100 days has been his ability to not necessarily "feel our pain" but instead to become a role model for how we should deal with our pain. In other words, we're all in the shit -- even the president -- but here's how best to deal with it: remain calm, think clearly, set an agenda, and make sure to spend time with your family. (Because, as the famous line goes, "a man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man.")

There's a classic astronaut quality to President Obama in that, so far, he's been able to confront enormous strain with a cool but competent grasp of the mission -- there appears to be a natural respect for his duty as well as for the 300 million people he's serving. President Obama's first 100 days haven't been flawless, but considering the Apollo 13 nature of the situation he inherited, his errors could've been far more serious.

Meanwhile, his opposition has behaved like a googly-eyed, flop-sweat soaked mess -- crapping their cages and shouting gibberish about the end of the world.

The striking contrast between President Obama's grace under pressure and the apoplectic insanity of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck or Michele Bachmann is the Republican Party's greatest weakness. They're missing the narrative for the sake of blind rage. Rather than grasping, as the president has, the very simple concept that, in general, people under tremendous stress don't respond well to screeching maniacs -- especially screeching maniacs who are clearly making things up as they go -- the Republicans have, by design or by instinct, embraced this screeching maniac base.

Looking at the recent polling, it's obvious that the post-election spike in the FOX News ratings are indicative of nothing more than a consolidation of the fringe rather than a broader indication of a growing movement. In an historical sense, FOX News and talk radio numbers more closely resemble General Lee's Army of Northern Virginia during the final days of the Civil War: old men, walking wounded and terrified children hunkered down in a long and imposing U-shaped array of earthworks around Petersburg. Each unit spread thin and deployed with huge gaps along the line so as to give the illusion of more soldiers. The Republicans don't seem particularly interested in gathering real numbers and, instead, would rather just make their existing numbers seem more intimidating than they actually are.

And perhaps this is because the tea party base of the Republican Party -- certainly its de facto leader, Mr. Limbaugh -- isn't really capable of the leadership required for the challenges we face. Challenges that require a respect for details, science, logic, analytic thought and steadiness.

It's no wonder considering how, over the last 30 years, the Republican Party has become dominated by bumper sticker marketing gimmicks and dress-up play acting in lieu of substance and reason.

In the last 100 days, this costume party fakery has been illustrated by Glenn Beck dressing up like Howard Beale and making random loud noises without realizing that Beale was a tragic, suicidal character. Bobby Jindal and Michael Steele dressing up like Barack Obama knockoffs, even though it's not really President Obama's ethnicity that makes him a popular leader, but rather his character and political instincts. Michelle Malkin and Glenn Reynolds dressing up like Sam Adams, even though there's very little in common between the Sons of Liberty, who were protesting against a corporate tax cut, and the tea partiers who support tax cuts for the wealthiest two percent.

Marketing -- tricking people with patriotism and platitudes into buying their crap on a stick -- has long been the Republican strong suit but lately it's been reduced to the logical equivalent of speaking in tongues; typically coming off as disingenuous, self-contradictory, uninformed, unserious, accidentally sexual or desperate.

As for desperation, so many of the right's attacks against the president in last 100 days have been based upon otherwise unremarkable observations, but delivered with an outraged or snarky tone so as to make the observation sound like an egregious trespass. Teleprompters, for example. Desperate for something to stick to the wall, they went with attacking the president for using a technology which literally everyone in politics and media uses.

Glenn Beck, in particular, has proved to be a master at making an otherwise normal observation sound like an attack simply by rolling his eyes and waving his hands around -- employing the sarcastic set up: "Idon'tknowaboutyou, but..." For example: "Idon'tknowaboutyou, but [rolls eyes, waves hands] Obama's use of an oval-shaped office -- that's not change we can believe in! Call me crazy, but BRAP-BEEP-FFFTT-ZOOOM!"

With pied pipers like this, it's difficult to see how the GOP can ever expect to recover on its own merit. It turns out that, in absence of substance and inspirational leadership, wishing for the president to fail is all they really have left as a path to winning again. The Republicans certainly don't possess the ability to compete based upon their own ideas and so they need the other guy to fail in order to appear more palatable.

That's a hell of a strategy. Waiting and hoping for the president to become more ridiculous than the Republicans. And in the event this occurs, how many millions of Americans will fail, too, as the consequence of both the Republicans and the president being equally as incompetent? It's no wonder why Americans are identifying with the president over the Republicans by as much as a three to one margin. Throwing in with the Republican Party in its present form feels comparatively like suicide.

I'm reasonably certain that historians will peg the legacy of the president's first 100 days based partly upon this contrast between the crazy and the calm, the substantive and the trivial, the buggy-eyed and the steady handed. And while the president has obviously won the day (the first 100, actually) on his own accord, there's no denying that this margin of victory is further widened by a remarkably self-destructive and tone deaf Republican Party.

Likely canidates for leaders of the Republican Party:

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A good contradiction to:

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And :

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Just as intelligent as any of Osg's posts, but more fun!

He could have allowed you to write the script for his first 100 days and you would not be satisfied, San. You are the proverbial grouser who is never going to be happy without something to complain about. It is why you are becoming so irrelevant, much like the Republican leaders are doing with their program of tearing down with no alternatives for building up.

Why wouldn't I be happy if he did what I wanted? That's the silliest thing I've ever heard. I know it's quite depressing, but why is it so hard to understand how closely aligned both parties are?

Meanwhile, you didn't refute a single one of my points.

It is why you are becoming so irrelevant, much like the Republican leaders are doing with their program of tearing down with no alternatives for building up.

Wow, I remember the same thing being said about the Democrats when Bush won his 2nd term.

Is that the political equivalent of a dog chasing its own tail?

On 29 April 2009, before a Senate panel, beleagured Homeland Security Secretary Napolitano retracted her startling statement that all Customs and Border Protection personnel were doing along the border to detect persons with the near-pandemic swine flu mutation was "passive surveillance." She stated on this day that her earlier description is "not an accurate picture of what is going on" along our border with Mexico, thus adding another embarrassing chapter to her scandalous tenure.

On 30 April 2009 during a live TV interview, VP Biden stated that he had advised his family to not travel by car, subway, or plane, and that classrooms should also be avoided, due to the swine flu quasi-pandemic. He said nothing about Mexico, but the White House immediately said that what Biden meant to say was avoid travel to Mexico. The commercial airline industry immediately wrote a letter to Biden stating their concern for his fear-mongering.

On 30 April 2009 during a live TV interview, VP Biden stated that he had advised his family to not travel by car, subway, or plane, and that classrooms should also be avoided, due to the swine flu quasi-pandemic. He said nothing about Mexico, but the White House immediately said that what Biden meant to say was avoid travel to Mexico. The commercial airline industry immediately wrote a letter to Biden stating their concern for his fear-mongering.


LOL, I watched the exchange in which he made his comments this morning, and had the news on most of the day and never saw anything like what you claim the White House stated, including PS Gibbs daily briefing.

And you are playing a little bit loose with Vice President Biden's original comments, as well.

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On 29 April 2009, First Fashionista Michelle Obama was spotted wearing a pair of ultra-chic Lanvin sneakers while "volunteering" at a food bank. The fancy footwear runs a shocking $540 and when asked about her choice of sneaks, her handlers sniffed that they were just plain old "shoes." Why the First Fashionista thought it was a clever idea in the middle of a serious recession to flaunt her extreme wealth and pricey supershoes, especially at a food bank for the poor, remains to be seen, but it surely annoyed the peasantry and spoke volumes about her priorities.

On 1 May 2009, a second domestic terrorism "assessment" was leaked by Janet Napolitano's Department of Homeland Security on the heels of another memo that warned of military veterans attacking the homeland. The second assessment, despite Napolitano's apology for the first, warned that Americans who disagree with illegal aliens receiving drivers licenses, free medical care, free educations or in-state tuition could also be terrorists preparing to conduct mass-casualty terror attacks on the homeland. According to polls, this means that the majority of Americans could become terrorists.

Lmao!

I laughed too.. Nothing is starting to shock me with Barry any more.

LOL, I watched the exchange in which he made his comments this morning, and had the news on most of the day and never saw anything like what you claim the White House stated, including PS Gibbs daily briefing.

And you are playing a little bit loose with Vice President Biden's original comments, as well.

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At around ~2:20 in.

Then later: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21925.html

The White House quickly arranged for Biden to make this statement through a spokesperson.

“On the Today Show this morning, the vice president was asked what he would tell a family member who was considering air travel to Mexico this week. The advice he is giving family members is the same advice the administration is giving to all Americans: that they should avoid unnecessary air travel to and from Mexico. If they are sick, they should avoid airplanes and other confined public spaces, such as subways. This is the advice the vice president has given family members who are traveling by commercial airline this week. As the president said just last night, every American should take the same steps you would take to prevent any other flu: Keep your hands washed; cover your mouth when you cough; stay home from work if you're sick and keep your children home from school if they're sick.”

The official statement definitely conflicted with what he accidentally said on air, unless his family has the pig flu and he didn't mention that on TV.

On 30 April 2009 during a live TV interview, VP Biden stated that he had advised his family to not travel by car, subway, or plane, and that classrooms should also be avoided, due to the swine flu quasi-pandemic. He said nothing about Mexico, but the White House immediately said that what Biden meant to say was avoid travel to Mexico. The commercial airline industry immediately wrote a letter to Biden stating their concern for his fear-mongering.


Sorry, but when watching the interview with Matt Loser, err Lauer, I somehow missed any mention of avoiding classrooms, hence my contention that Osg was playing loose with the VP's comments.

Yeah, he didn't say that. He did definitely contradict his prepared statement later in the day though.

I get a big kick outta Biden. mans definately not afraid to open his mouth and speak his mind. even when he shouldnt.

I see a fun little trend over the next few years. Biden speaks and Obama facepalm's.

He must have some good teeth though, chewing all that shoe leather when he puts his foot in his mouth. :p


And San, I agree about the backtracking and attempted cleanup; just wanted to contest the manner it was presented by Osg, cuz he expects that. :)

In early May 2009, Obama refused to release photos of his infamous Scare Force One fly-over of New York City that terrified tens of thousands of New Yorkers. The regime refused to give a reason but admitted the photos were not classified. Obama's decision was directly contrary to the openness he promised again and again during his campaign.

Obama, again demonstrating his noted propensity for verbal gaffes that embarrass him and his regime, welcomed White House guests with the greeting in Spanish "Cinco de quatro," which means "five of four" rather than Cinco de Mayo. Obama speaks only one language and pundits and reports noted he doesn't even do that very well.

There's always some good conversation broken up by Osgiliath's stupid posts, but this one takes the cake ...

"Obama speaks only one language and pundits and reports noted he doesn't even do that very well."

You could hate the guy, and many do, but I doubt anyone but you would ever say anything but that he's a hell of a speaker. To think otherwise invalidates anything else you say, end of story.

ZOMG!!! you mean Obama is an english speaking only president??? thats gotta be another historical first for the man.

I'm as aghast as you are man. i mean after reading your sig. i'm 100% percent sure your all for every American bieng bi-lingual and all.


LOL sorry hadnt noticed you actually changed your sig. from the anti immigrant link you used to have

There's always some good conversation broken up by Osgiliath's stupid posts, but this one takes the cake ...

"Obama speaks only one language and pundits and reports noted he doesn't even do that very well."

You could hate the guy, and many do, but I doubt anyone but you would ever say anything but that he's a hell of a speaker. To think otherwise invalidates anything else you say, end of story.


As long as the teleprompter is working correctly you're right. End of story.. chief.

The mall has kept me busy this week so this weeks list is a tad long, but it's a good read.

On 7 May 2009, Defense Secretary Gates informed U.S. forces in Afghanistan that American ground troops would not be ordered into Pakistan despite Obama's repeated promises to do so even without Pakistan's permission to kill terrorists there, and despite the al Qaeda-linked Taliban having taken over massive regions of the country and threatening to topple the nuclear-armed government.

On 7 May 2009, Obama made a public statement from the White House in which he attempted to convince the American people that his plan to cut $17 billion from his record budget was substantial. However, he refused to inform the people that his plan represents a mere one-half of one percent of his pork-filled budget.

In May 2009, the Obama regime reported that Obama wanted to re-establish the failed Clinton era policy of granting special P-1, P-2 and P-3 visas to tens of thousands of Somalis that would add to the 36,000 imported by Clinton. The would be eligible for a "green card" in one year and U.S. citizenship in five years. However, the program has led to dozens of those Somalis being suspected terrorists, one of whom was the first American citizen suicide bomber known to us, and Somalia is packed with al Shabaab terrorists, which is the al Qaeda faction in Somalia.

On 6 May 2009, John Kerry, speaking on behalf of Obama, stated that Obama is not seeking regime change in Iran despite Obama's own State Department listing the Iranian regime as a terrorist entity and that the terrorist government, whom he admitted were controlling, arming, training and deploying Hezbollah, is "legitimate."

On 7 May 2009 in sworn testimony before a Senate hearing, Attorney General Holder, under intense fire, stated the Obama regime would not release any Muslim prisoners from Guantanamo into the United States that the regime considers terrorists, leaving the door obviously open for prisoners to be released who Obama simply claims are not terrorists.

On 7 May 2009, Norman Hsu, a close friend and political ally of Obama who was one of Obama's biggest fundraisers, pleaded guilty in federal court to multiple counts of fraud. At the time of his plea it was unknown whether Hsu will implicate Obama in any of his criminal undertakings in exchange for a reduced sentence.

Tl:dr

There's always some good conversation broken up by Osgiliath's stupid posts, but this one takes the cake ...

"Obama speaks only one language and pundits and reports noted he doesn't even do that very well."

You could hate the guy, and many do, but I doubt anyone but you would ever say anything but that he's a hell of a speaker. To think otherwise invalidates anything else you say, end of story.

uhhhhhhhh... i think what Osi is uhhhhhhhh.... trying to point out is that uhhhhhhhh.... when President Obama uhhhhhhhhhh..... is not in the pressence of uhhhhhhh.... a teleprompter he uhhhhh.... tends to 'uh' his way through the message. And to think otherwise you must not watch the news lulz.

Who doesn't use uhhs now and again when speaking? He's had maybe 5-10 major gaffs out of 2 years speaking publicly 10+ times a day.

He is every part as bad a public speaker as george bush was with out his precious loving teleprompter...

Toastmasters, FTW!

They teach Public Speaking 101.

First rule of thumb, no uhhhhhs!

Wow Obama really shows his complete lack of judgment skills..


At the White House Correspondents' Dinner on 9 March 2009, African-American hate-merchant "comedian" Wanda Sykes made Obama laugh loud, openly and continually with her racist "jokes" targeting whites rather than the traditional sitting president. Obama perhaps laughed loudest when Sykes openly wished for the death of Rush Limbaugh from kidney failure. No president in history has ever hired an openly racist comedian for the event before, nor has any president ever laughed in public when someone called for the death of an American media figure who opposed a president's policies.

In May 2009, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs revealed Obama's third opinion on gay marriage by stating "the president believes this is an issue that's best addressed by the states," thus changing his opinion to a states' rights issue from his other two opinions. In 1996, Obama, while running for state senator, stated he "would fight efforts to prohibit such [gay] marriages." And in 2007, Obama stated in a Chicago Tribune interview: "my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman."

In early May 2009, Obama cut from his budget 100% of the federal funds states use to incarcerate illegal alien felons (murderers, rapists, kidnappers, armed robbers, drug smugglers, pedophiles, etc.) who were able to enter the country because of the federal government's refusal to secure the borders. Obama's reason for doing so was to force states to limit or eliminate their efforts to arrest and imprison illegal aliens and to release those already imprisoned.

On 9 May 2009, Gen. David Petraeus, commander of the U.S. Central Command, stated that al Qaeda is headquartered in Pakistan, including Osama bin Laden and the global terrorist group's senior leadership. Despite this admission, and despite his repeated promises to the contrary and his sworn duty, Obama now says he will not attack al Qaeda with U.S. forces without the permission of the Pakistani government, which that government refuses to grant.

Using Chicago "machine" tactics as a blatant payback for corrupt union support in California, in May 2009 Obama ordered California to not dare cut the wages of state union workers or else the Obama regime would cut huge sums to the state in federal aid. The blackmail attempt drew rage from many California politicians who are furious that Obama would attempt such a thing.

In May 2009, media reports stunned many Americans when they told the story of how Obama's administration was sending nearly $3 million to China to literally teach Chinese prostitutes how to drink alcohol responsibly while on the job. The money comes out of a National Institute of Health program.

After Obama attacked CEOs for going on junkets and having parties with money their struggling companies could not afford to spend and with taxpayer bailout funds, Obama announced in May 2009 that he was going on a junket using taxpayer dollars during a massive recession to Las Vegas to help Harry Reid get some donations.

On 12 May 2009, confirmed media reports out of Pakistan revealed that Obama's failed Pakistan policy had resulted in the creation of a staggering 1.3 million refugees fleeing the Taliban, whom Obama refuses to attack despite his many promises, assurances and guarantees. Huge civilian casualties added to the problem, creating one of the most grim humanitarian disasters in recent history.

During these hard economic times, when keeping Americans employed is one of our major priorities, is there any word on whether President Obama is wearing socks made in America?

On 12 May 2009, confirmed media reports out of Pakistan revealed that Obama's failed Pakistan policy had resulted in the creation of a staggering 1.3 million refugees fleeing the Taliban, whom Obama refuses to attack despite his many promises, assurances and guarantees. Huge civilian casualties added to the problem, creating one of the most grim humanitarian disasters in recent history.

this made me lol. Not because of the situation but because this daily bash Obama site actually thinks we should be held responsible for all the Talibans actions and the results of those actions.

Obama's failed pakistan policy? LMAO yea how dare he not be able to fix in 110 days something Bush took 7 years to completly fuck up

And yea we should be outraged he's helping Harry Reid. it would be differant if he was say....going to go eat birthday cake with John McCain on the onset of a natural disaster.

Let me edumacate ya a bit since i'm certain your web sites of indignant rage wont.

In the US the president calls the generals and says do this. and the generals say "yes Sr! right away Sir!
In Pakistan the president call's the General and ask nicely, could you maybe,pretty please, if its not to much trouble and your not busy you know throw the Talibn out of the Swat Valley? the Geneals says" i'll get back to you on that"
I'm pretty sure the Pakistan armys new found resolve to engage the taliban has everything to do with the Obama administration.

Ohhh ha ha your Naivete makes me laugh so...

thats the best responce you can muster????

And yours was any better? /snicker

Ohhh ha ha your Naivete makes me laugh so...


Your naivete is astounding. You are as much a part of the problem as you think Obama is. Get really concerned, cut all of the useless bullshit crap about how much a haircut cost or who got a blowjob from who. Our country is in deep shit, it started long before Obama got here. It is systemic...it doesn't matter what Reagan did or Clinton or Bush...it was fucking done with a vote from Congress and a signature from all of the above and your best shots at concern are these ridiculous posts?

Why don't you post how the very banks that are sucking the money out of the system to the tune of trillions of dollars are also setting up policy, laws and rules for all to play by and there are actually idiots who think it is just a bunch of hard working family men trying to make a profit.

We are getting fucked and your fucking worried about shit like you post?

Get a fucking clue people like Malkin, Beck, O'Reilly and the others are equally if not more responsible for this shit as any member of congress or who is president.

Imagine if back in the '90s assholes like you had actually been worried about the implications of repealing Glass-Steagull instead of Clintons blowjob...just think about that, had you actually concentrated your energy on something that actually matters.

And you wonder why 70% of the American people think people like you are morons.

70% huh? IF I recall the election was, what 54% to 47%? Seems a lot closer to me.

70% didn't think McCain was a moron...you however are a slam dunk.

70% huh? IF I recall the election was, what 54% to 47%? Seems a lot closer to me.

Yes 70%, because a large portion who supported McCain have the decency and respect to give the new president a chance. That is why 21% of people identify as Republicans and less than that identify as Libertarian. The difference is the Libertarians understand that the whole shitball is systemic and Republicans have no idea of taking responsibility for their fucked up policies.

I think you are over compensating Rover...

I think you need to look at reality.

Every election demographics get more and more skewed away from Republicans. They destroyed any chance of getting a piece of the Hispanic vote with the sloppy and jingoistic way the immigration thing was handled. They lost an entire generation of voters with how they have handled themselves recently, and its not getting much better. Evangelicals, once a strength, are now a loadstone around your neck as the Evangelical movement is now ebbing and splitting as the Dems have figured out how to talk to young evangelicals.

You have Dick Cheney out there, basically making torture a wedge issue. If you like Torture and water boarding... VOTE GOP!!! You can't win like that.

Look, you have a few GOP people saying that they need to recruit people who can win in whatever district they are running... a hardcore, Jeff Sessions, type conservative just is NOT going to win in the North East, Great Lakes, the West Coast, and ever increasingly, the Mid Atlantic and SouthWest. Yet at the same time there are these "purges" going on that make moderate Republicans reviled figures, mocked and derided by the Limbaugh's and Levin's and denied support. Watch the suicide in Florida as the Republicans best chance to hold a Senate seat, Charlie Crist, is primaried out of the election.

And the worst part is that the GOP under Rove ran elections like Carnival Barkers attract customers. Those voters became the next generation of Republicans. Rubes like Michelle Bachmann, Peter King (NY), Dennis Mulligan, and Mark Sanford wind up running the sideshow.

Its fucking hysterical when a smart guy like Newt understands that his party is basically retarded and starts hiding his intellect and avoiding real ideas. Its funny to watch him on Fox News speak like to the audience like a Special Ed teacher trying to teach addition to the kid trying in vain to sniff his own ass.

On 13 May 2009, Obama infuriated the ACLU and fellow hard-core anti-military/anti-CIA leftists around the world by reversing his own decision to support the release of photos of terrorists undergoing enhanced interrogation techniques. It is unknown whether Obama flip-flopped on this highly controversial matter for the claimed reason (protection of US forces) or whether he hopes to be over-ruled in the courts so that he can then claim to outraged pro-military/pro-CIA conservatives that at least he tried.

On 13 May 2009, the AP, which had openly helped Obama get elected, published a "Fact Check" article by Matt Apuzzo in which the reporter stated Biden was being "loose with the facts" regarding the regime's stimulus package. The report laid out how Biden was trying to deceive the nation about the true state of the economy.

Charlie Crist will probably win Florida. He is WELL loved by the baby boomers, who are still a HUGE demographic of the voting community. He will have to worry about Jacksonville and Miami/Dade but thats about it really.

For senate, you wont have the minority vote show up like they did for Obama.

Also, he isnt scared to tackle insurence companies head on, which he'll probably use this to tie in with healthcare and try and look very bipartisan about things and be "in tune" with Obama to an extent about reform.

Grey.

Im 100% sure Crist will win the General. Im 50/50 whether he wins the Primary.

On Friday May 15th - Republican TV host Joe Scarborough invites a group of republican senators and congressman to talk about whether Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is culpable in the torture scandal. The last republican to comment is Ron Paul who, after being introduced to much praise about his integrity and honesty, points out that the US would not be in this debate had the Bush administration and republican lead Intel Committee simply followed the law instead of breaking it. Paul also quickly points out that the Pelosi issue is nothing but a side show created by republicans who wish to deflect attention from real issues.

I'm not so sure the intent is to deflect attention from real issues as it is an attempt to take prominent Democrats down with them. That being said, I have no sympathy for Pelosi (partially, I admit, because I have developed a personal dislike for the woman). I think she was adequately informed by the CIA and chose to remain silent when the Republicans were in control of the White House. At the time, anyone complaining was being labeled a "traitor" by the Republican PR machine..

Team dumbass at it again.

On 13 May 2009, while delivering a graduation address at Arizona State University, Obama warned the graduates not to "chase after the big money." Obama, one of the richest men on earth, has chased after the big money most of his adult life but apparently assumed the grads would not be aware of that.

On 14 May 2009 on National Public Radio and following up on Obama's public insulting of Jessica Simpson, David Axelrod, Obama's chief political advisor, stated that one of the names the Obamas had considered for their new dog was "Miss California," an ugly and very personal insult for Carrie Prejean, who is not in favor of gay marriage.

In an attack on the defense industry that Obama sees as evil, his regime announced on 14 May 2009 that it intends to conduct massive cuts of support service contractors and then hire 30,000 federal employees to replace them. The current contractors are believed to be mostly conservatives, whereas their replacements are expected to be mostly liberals.

On 16 May 2009 while delivering a graduation address at the University of Califormina -- Merced, Michelle Obama stressed they new grads must "give something back" to those with less. She failed to mention that according to the Obamas' federal tax returns, from 2000-2004 they gave less than 1% of the income to charity and earned millions of dollars during that time.

On 17 May 2009, massive demonstrations and a petition signed by hundreds and hundreds of thousands of protestors greeted Obama as he insisted on going through with his scandalous graduation speech at Notre Dame. Obama is militantly pro-abortion and the Catholic university is anti-abortion.

In May 2009 at the Gridiron Club dinner, Biden revealed the top secret location of the vice president's bunker to his dinnermates, according to Newsweek's Eleanor Clift. Clift wrote that Biden told them, for no discernable reason, that the massive complex is directly under the Naval Observatory, where the vice president lives, and gave specific details of its construction. This is a felony offense under Title 18 of the United States Code.

Team dumbass at it again.

Yes why do you keep trying?

On 13 May 2009, while delivering a graduation address at Arizona State University, Obama warned the graduates not to "chase after the big money." Obama, one of the richest men on earth, has chased after the big money most of his adult life but apparently assumed the grads would not be aware of that.

1. House. Obama lives in a house in Chicago on 5046 S.
Greenwood, zip code 60615, according to his 2006 returns. The
house has an estimated value of $1.5 million, if you take the
average of value of homes of the same size in the same zip code.

2. Cash. In 2007, Obama and his wife made $4,238,165
according to his 2007 tax returns. Only $260,735 came from
salaries and wages. The rest, over $4 million, came from his
book royalties from Random House ($3,278,719) and a
company called Dystel & Goderich ($815,971).

Now of course not all of that $4,238,165 in earnings will stick
around as an asset. They paid $1,059,826 in taxes. Ouch. That
knocks them down to $3,080,139.

On 14 May 2009 on National Public Radio and following up on Obama's public insulting of Jessica Simpson, David Axelrod, Obama's chief political advisor, stated that one of the names the Obamas had considered for their new dog was "Miss California," an ugly and very personal insult for Carrie Prejean, who is not in favor of gay marriage.

I guess that can happen when you're stupid enough to let political hacks convince you they really like you...(See Joe the Plumber)

In an attack on the defense industry that Obama sees as evil, his regime announced on 14 May 2009 that it intends to conduct massive cuts of support service contractors and then hire 30,000 federal employees to replace them. The current contractors are believed to be mostly conservatives, whereas their replacements are expected to be mostly liberals.

That is known as saving money.

On 16 May 2009 while delivering a graduation address at the University of Califormina -- Merced, Michelle Obama stressed they new grads must "give something back" to those with less. She failed to mention that according to the Obamas' federal tax returns, from 2000-2004 they gave less than 1% of the income to charity and earned millions of dollars during that time.

See income facts above

On 17 May 2009, massive demonstrations and a petition signed by hundreds and hundreds of thousands of protestors greeted Obama as he insisted on going through with his scandalous graduation speech at Notre Dame. Obama is militantly pro-abortion and the Catholic university is anti-abortion.

Try hundreds...definately on the low side of 200

In May 2009 at the Gridiron Club dinner, Biden revealed the top secret location of the vice president's bunker to his dinnermates, according to Newsweek's Eleanor Clift. Clift wrote that Biden told them, for no discernable reason, that the massive complex is directly under the Naval Observatory, where the vice president lives, and gave specific details of its construction. This is a felony offense under Title 18 of the United States Code.


Don't worry...Cheney took care of disclosing this back in 2001


If this really bothers you...I say take a vacation where government intervention won't happen


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In an attack on the defense industry that Obama sees as evil, his regime announced on 14 May 2009 that it intends to conduct massive cuts of support service contractors and then hire 30,000 federal employees to replace them. The current contractors are believed to be mostly conservatives, whereas their replacements are expected to be mostly liberals.

You mean he is giving government related jobs to federally produced employees....my god, clearly a sign of the end times.

And to add, i read the transcripts to the speech at Notre Dame, it was an amazing speech that had some points that should be considred by both sides of any debated position.

You mean he is giving government related jobs to federally produced employees....my god, clearly a sign of the end times.

As a former federal employee myself, I can tell you this won't have the intended result. There are many very talented and committed federal employees, but in my experience they are greatly outnumbered by the less talented and committed. Cost will likely increase, not decrease, when you take into account lost productivity. It is quite difficult to replace non productive personnel with all the "protections" in place for federal employees (or at least it was back in the eighties when I worked for the Army).

It is quite difficult to replace non productive personnel with all the "protections" in place for federal employees (or at least it was back in the eighties when I worked for the Army).

It hadn't changed in the 90's either.

Rover, don't you think the phrase "Good enough for Goverment work." has a kernel of truth to it?

I could be wrong, but I think the premise is that the contracted services have become too unwieldy and have resulted in too much fraud and corruption; it would actually be cheaper in the long run to have federal employees handling these assignments once again, or so goes the argument in favor of cutting much of the contracting.

Besides, almost all of those jobs were performed at one time by federal employees until, during the administration of President Ford, an enterprising young go-getter had a study done that he was able to use to justify getting legislation pushed through to start contracting out for services. That same individual then used his influence with a certain company to get them to retool their operations so that they would meet the necessary requirements to get those contracts, and he then went to work for the company upon leaving government service.

Time to clean up all the messes, not just the high profile ones.

Due to Obama's failed Pakistan policies that have displaced 2 million people after the Taliban came to within an hour's drive of the capital of Islamabad, on 19 May 2009 Hillary Clinton announced the Obama regime would be sending $100 million to Pakistan.

Due to Obama's failed Pakistan policies that have displaced 2 million people after the Taliban came to within an hour's drive of the capital of Islamabad, on 19 May 2009 Hillary Clinton announced the Obama regime would be sending $100 million to Pakistan.

Simply amazing what Obama can accomplish in four months compared to Bush in eight years; he must have some powerful magic. :rolleyes:

And just think... He's apparently been President of Pakistan this whole time as well.

During a speech to lawmakers in Sarajevo on 19 May 2009, Biden claimed that as a senator in 1993 during a visit to the then wartorn region, he had come under enemy fire and could even see the enemy snipers in bombed-out buildings. The absurd lie was reminiscent of Hillary Clinton's laughable claim that she too was a combat veteran of sorts. In reality, no one shot at Biden, period.

On 21 May 2009, Obama directly contradicted his own Director of National Intelligence by stating in a speech at the National Archives that enhanced interrogation techniques made America less safe. Adm. Dennis Blair has stated publicly that the techniques did work and in fact prevented a variety of attacks on US soil.

In 1993 a delegation of Senators, Congressman and other US officials of which Biden was a member of did in fact come under not only sniper fire but also mortar fire while in Sarajevo with the closest mortar rounds landing approx 300 meters away. The distance would be considered "danger close" if one was calling in those rounds near their position. Look it up...it is readable from reliable sources.

And you forgot this...

In a statement April 21 , however, Blair said the information "was valuable in some instances" but that "there is no way of knowing whether the same information could have been obtained through other means. The bottom line is that these techniques hurt our image around the world, the damage they have done to our interests far outweighed whatever benefit they gave us and they are not essential to our national security."

On 21 May 2009, Obama directly contradicted his own Director of National Intelligence by stating in a speech at the National Archives that enhanced interrogation techniques made America less safe. Adm. Dennis Blair has stated publicly that the techniques did work and in fact prevented a variety of attacks on US soil.

How do you even quantify this?

On 23 May 2009, Obama, in a C-Span interview, admitted "we are out of money" after he signed bill after bill into law that put the United States trillions upon trillions of dollars into debt with maniacal spending programs that he has admitted will cause massive inflation.

On 25 May 2009, the Obama regime was stunned when North Korea suddenly tested a nuclear bomb 10 times more powerful than the first one they tested, and on the same day launched a new intercontinental ballistic missile. The regime said it was gravely concerned but no plan to deal with the North Korean threat exists with the Obama regime.

On Memorial Day 2009, rather than spend his entire day with the families of fallen military personnel and with the wounded, Obama decided to play golf for a few hours.

On 26 May 2009, Obama announced his nominee to replace Supreme Court Justice David Souter was Sonia Sotomayor, a leftist, sexist, racist, extremist activist judge who has stated "the court of appeals is where policy is made" and has stated that "white male" judges can't reach as good a conclusion as "a wise Latina woman."

On Memorial Day 2009, rather than spend his entire day with the families of fallen military personnel and with the wounded, Obama decided to play golf for a few hours.

He did more than most americans did, he visited a few graves, had a breakfast with families of lost soldiers and gave a speech, then he went and played golf....

10 to 1 Osi grilled burgers and franks and didnt even casually give a shit about anyone who died for the freedom he enjoys.

He did more than most americans did, he visited a few graves, had a breakfast with families of lost soldiers and gave a speech, then he went and played golf....

10 to 1 Osi grilled burgers and franks and didnt even casually give a shit about anyone who died for the freedom he enjoys.

You would have lost that bet.

On 23 May 2009, Obama, in a C-Span interview, admitted "we are out of money" after he signed bill after bill into law that put the United States trillions upon trillions of dollars into debt with maniacal spending programs that he has admitted will cause massive inflation.

He admitted? He has always said this...he just knew the reality was that the size of the debt was created and sanctioned by the so called conservatives of the republican party.

On 25 May 2009, the Obama regime was stunned when North Korea suddenly tested a nuclear bomb 10 times more powerful than the first one they tested, and on the same day launched a new intercontinental ballistic missile. The regime said it was gravely concerned but no plan to deal with the North Korean threat exists with the Obama regime.

I remember there were these pirates and these right wing morons said...Obama isnt doing anything about this..

USA - 3

Pirates - 0

On Memorial Day 2009, rather than spend his entire day with the families of fallen military personnel and with the wounded, Obama decided to play golf for a few hours.

So patently false it is astounding that someone would say this and use those who sacrificed their lives for political gain.

On 26 May 2009, Obama announced his nominee to replace Supreme Court Justice David Souter was Sonia Sotomayor, a leftist, sexist, racist, extremist activist judge who has stated "the court of appeals is where policy is made" and has stated that "white male" judges can't reach as good a conclusion as "a wise Latina woman."


LOL...it is well known that she is very pragmatic...oh I forgot...who first appointed her as a federal judge?

Her record is more conservative than Osg, and many others, might think.

As for the signing of bills boosting the deficit, he is doing just what Bush did.

As for the North Korea 'event' being a surprise, it is no more so than what Bush was surprised with during his regime.


Really, most of these so-called talking points are mirrors of the Bush administration.

But it is fun listening to the hypocritical drug addict on the radio call someone else a racist as he goes about working up the 'base' of the former Republican Party.

On 26 May 2009, Obama announced his nominee to replace Supreme Court Justice David Souter was Sonia Sotomayor, a leftist, sexist, racist, extremist activist judge who has stated "the court of appeals is where policy is made" and has stated that "white male" judges can't reach as good a conclusion as "a wise Latina woman."

Her exact words... "I would hope that a latina woman would reach a better conclusion then a white male would"

That is not a racist statement. She never said a LATINA WOMAN WOULD! SHE HOPES they would based on the different experiences in the past of said latina woman.

Guess what OSG... SHE IS going to be in the supreme court, and there is NOTHING your pieces of shit left in government can do about it.

You are right jedd.. She'll get it just like Robets did with bush and you left wing girlie boys all wet your panties. Just know she is a sexist racist whore.... and always will be.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBwm8TTktdQ&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsmax.com%2Finsidecover%2F Sotomayor_statements%2F2009%2F05%2F26%2F218143.htm l&feature=player_embedded

You are right jedd.. She'll get it just like Robets did with bush and you left wing girlie boys all wet your panties. Just know she is a sexist racist whore.... and always will be.



OMG...look at these things that were said

Saying that Judges make law
state-court judges possess the power to "make" common law

And again...
In fact, however, the judges of inferior courts often "make law," since the precedent of the highest court does not cover every situation, and not every case is reviewed.

The freakin empathetic weak willed B.....
I tried to provide a little picture of who I am as a human being and how my background and my experiences have shaped me and brought me to this point. ... And that's why I went into that in my opening statement. Because when a case comes before me involving, let's say, someone who is an immigrant -- and we get an awful lot of immigration cases and naturalization cases -- I can't help but think of my own ancestors, because it wasn't that long ago when they were in that position.

And more friggin empathy...
When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background or because of religion or because of gender. And I do take that into account.


Damn...Scalia and Alito are shocking at times.

Why do liberals always answer questions with a question? Why do liberals feel sexism and racism is ok when it fits their agenda? Simply Horrific.

Watch Gibbs stammer and dance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMC47FDVsLg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.koaradio.com%2Fpages%2Fgunny bob.html&feature=player_embedded

She is a member of La Raza.. interesting.

She is a fierce opponent of the second amendment... interesting!!!

How man ytimes have her cases be overturned by the SC? 50% HORRIFIC!

Why answer questions with a question?

Because when people are discussing instead of bloviating, it is a common dialectal pattern for them to first clarify individual elements of a prior statement before accepting or denying it.

I also give you an extra +3 points for irony.

I give you -3 points for inconsistent moderating..... and for pointing out Rover can't answer a question.

I give you -3 points for inconsistent moderating..... and for pointing out Rover can't answer a question.

I didn't see where you asked me a question. I did see where you pointed out that Sotomayor's statement about making law was unacceptable and yet you found no issue with it when Scalia said almost the exact same thing? I did take the liberty to post the statements by Alito as I thought in a previous post you had pointed out that her possible empathy with the average or poor American was dangerous.

her possible empathy with the average or poor American was dangerous.


Rover, you ignorant slut!! did'nt you get the memo? anything resembling compassion has been exclusively reserved for corporate entities only.

Osg. learn to pick your fights man sotomayor is as moderate as your gonna get. save your angst for Obama's pick to replace Ginsburg. thats where he's gonna pull the "left" hook.

No THAT replacement will most assuredly be just as extreme and just as racist and just as sexist and Sotomayor.

sorry for double post...


Along with hating non latina Americans and the second amendment and having 1/2 over her decisions overruled by the very supreme court she is trying to get a job with, but now she hates free speech.


http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Critics-unhappy-with-Sotomayors-role-in-CT-free-speech-case.html

sorry for double post...


Along with hating non latina Americans and the second amendment and having 1/2 over her decisions overruled by the very supreme court she is trying to get a job with, but now she hates free speech.


http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Critics-unhappy-with-Sotomayors-role-in-CT-free-speech-case.html


Wow you actually posted a sensible link to a ruling I completely disagree with. You're getting warmer!!!

Warmer? It's clear you too are racist and a hater of the American Constitution.

Rover, not sure why you even answer him any more...

No THAT replacement will most assuredly be just as extreme and just as racist and just as sexist and Sotomayor.

Just for shits and giggles, can you go through her record and show an example of racism or sexism? Spin aside, is there any record in her judicial performance of either of the two charges? Please share so that we may have more to learn from, in forming our opinions. We need to see something that does not jibe with the law she was interpreting.

sorry for double post...


Along with hating non latina Americans and the second amendment and having 1/2 over her decisions overruled by the very supreme court she is trying to get a job with, but now she hates free speech.


http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Critics-unhappy-with-Sotomayors-role-in-CT-free-speech-case.html


Gee, sorry, but this case was an attempt by a parent to get their darling child a stronger resume' by getting elected to the student government. The student got disqualified from that due to publicly disrespecting the school administrators that she would have had to work alongside, and having a public posting referring to them as douche bags would indeed be disruptive. This is not about free speech, but about allowing the school administration to establish rules for conduct, which has always been the role of the school leadership.

We do not allow people to yell fire in crowded theaters, nor will we allow our "children" to be publicly disrespectful of those in authority without some consequences. It is not a question of freedom of speech but of abiding by the codes of conduct established by the society in which we live.

We turn our children over to the schools and expect them to act as surrogate parents; well, they did, and now the parent wants to change the rules. Sorry, tough luck.

oh golly I forgot it's the liberal way to walk lock step with those in charge even if you disagree. Sorry. Silly me.

oh golly I forgot it's the liberal way to walk lock step with those in charge even if you disagree. Sorry. Silly me.


OMG, I almost choked laughing when I read this. Have you ever read any history of this country, and it's political processes?

The decision in the case you cited was basically to not decide the matter, but leave it in the hands of the school administration how best to handle their students, even while stating the punishment seemed harsh for the offense.

And what does walking lock step have to do with expecting our children to follow certain rules of conduct? Am I to believe you give positive reinforcement to your children for showing their teachers and superintendents, and other authority figures, disrespect?

Rover, not sure why you even answer him any more...


Because he has a 100% record of being wrong and I guess I am intrigued that he keeps trying yet always miserably fails. It's also because he is the typical chicken hawk, big mouth and when it comes down to it would curl up in a ball or turn tail and run when he thinks he might even be placed in a position where he would have to actually defend his rights...guys like him think that everyone but themselves should sacrifice for this country.

Wrong again lefty boy. I have been 100% correct at all things. You're just complicit in the downfall of this country is all. And you like it.

wrong again lefty boy. I have been 100% correct at all things. You're just complicit in the downfall of this country is all. And you like it.

lol

http://www.republicanoffenders.com/index.html

Following in the steps of Hu, Kim, Mugabe and Chavez, on 1 June 2009, Obama became the first president to nationalize a corporation, seizing control of 60% of General Motors as the company filed for bankruptcy.

following in the steps of hu, kim, mugabe and chavez, on 1 june 2009, obama became the first president to nationalize a corporation, seizing control of 60% of general motors as the company filed for bankruptcy.


lol


Please stay tuned for this musical interlude...

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You are everything wrong in this country.

You are everything wrong in this country.

One could say the same thing about you. You are all bark and no bite, you have taken the "high road" on even the GOP. Its easy to point fingers when you stay "neutral." You throw your two cents in without ever doing anything to try and fix it, you scream about military action but you sir havent had the testicular fortitude to join.

Every time i have EVER argue a political point, i have sent an email to the proper elected official, so i can atleast say i did my civic duty. You just post some regurgitated headline from a site, without actually chewing on it and thinking about it for yourself. Which has been proven time and time again by the easy rebutals linked in response.

Finally, how many times are you going to use the quote mentioned above, this is probably the 4th or 5th time you have said that to a wide range of people including myself.

Following in the steps of Hu, Kim, Mugabe and Chavez, on 1 June 2009, Obama became the first president to nationalize a corporation, seizing control of 60% of General Motors as the company filed for bankruptcy.

1939- Tennessee Electric Power Company was nationalized to become the TVA

1976-government controlled Conrail was created from 6 bankrupt rail corperations.

1980- Resolution Trust Corporation (government controlled) took over all the failed S&L

So not only is Obama not the first, but you are then listing, FDR, Gerald Ford, and the republican Messiah Raegan in the same breath as Hu, Kim, Mugabe, and Chavez.

Hate to say it Osg, but he's right.

You might want to back down off of this one....

Kudos Grey!

You are everything wrong in this country.


Like I earlier pointed out...you have a 100% score of being wrong.

I can't help but think that Osgiliath isn't as dumb as he makes himself out to be, but more likely trying to be a caricature of die hard righties kinda like Colbert tries - only he's just not funny or any good at it.

Like I earlier pointed out...you have a 100% score of being wrong.

In your eyes I'm 100% wrong and in my eyes your kinda is 100% wrong so we kinda cancel each other out there tough guy.

how come you dont reply to the quantitative responses to your headlines just the easy name calling stuff?

In your eyes I'm 100% wrong and in my eyes your kinda is 100% wrong so we kinda cancel each other out there tough guy.

There is a difference. You are factually wrong, that is indisputable. With you, I am ideologically wrong which is nothing more than opinion. Either way it still doesn't make you any less of a chicken hawk, that and the fact that your vitriol lacks any valid research other than reading blogs of Michelle Malkin or listening to that dope addict hero of yours Limbaugh it is that which is the reason I lack respect for you and your opinion.

One day you can grow up Osg and get a big boy picture on your arm or wear a shirt based on some pride...

http://www.vanreedimages.com/ayon/tattoo.jpg .. http://www.vanreedimages.com/ayon/3-5.jpg


how come you dont reply to the quantitative responses to your headlines just the easy name calling stuff?


Because he's got Internet muscles...kind of like beer muscles only dumber because he's not drunk.

1939- Tennessee Electric Power Company was nationalized to become the TVA

1976-government controlled Conrail was created from 6 bankrupt rail corperations.

1980- Resolution Trust Corporation (government controlled) took over all the failed S&L

So not only is Obama not the first, but you are then listing, FDR, Gerald Ford, and the republican Messiah Raegan in the same breath as Hu, Kim, Mugabe, and Chavez.


Gee, looks like Grey can look up stuff better than Osg! :D

Well done!

Wow Obama, who wipes his ass with the constitution on a daily basis, was really busy over the weekend.

On 1 June 2009, despite Obama's many promises to have the most open and transparent regime in history, the White House refused to release cost details of the Obamas' weekend "date night" to New York City to have dinner and take in a Broadway show.

On 1 June 2009, White House special counsel Norm Eisen posted a new regime policy on the White House blog: regarding negative public commentary on Obama's "stimulus" program, Obama "will expand the restriction on oral communications to cover all persons, not just federally registared lobbyists" and "anyone else exerting influence on the process."

On 29 May 2009, Obama sent an official invitation to the Iranian terrorist regime, which has killed hundreds, possibly thousands of Americans with its Hezbollah terrorist group, to attend America's Independence Day celebrations. The regime said this was reaching out to the terrorists.

On 1 June 2009, Yemen-trained terrorist Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, already being tracked by the FBI, attacked a military recruiting office in Little Rock, killing one soldier and wounding another with a military-style SKS semi-automatic rifle. Obama had no comment. However, Obama did release a statement condemning the murder of late-term abortionist George Tiller.

On 2 June 2009, Obama stated that the Iranian regime had the right to nuclear power and that he would be OK with that so long as they proved they could be trusted. The Iranian terrorist regime owns, trains, and and commands Hezbollah, which according to the CIA and Pentagon has killed huge numbers of Americans in Iraq.

Wow Obama, who wipes his ass with the constitution on a daily basis, was really busy over the weekend.

On 1 June 2009, despite Obama's many promises to have the most open and transparent regime in history, the White House refused to release cost details of the Obamas' weekend "date night" to New York City to have dinner and take in a Broadway show.

On 1 June 2009, White House special counsel Norm Eisen posted a new regime policy on the White House blog: regarding negative public commentary on Obama's "stimulus" program, Obama "will expand the restriction on oral communications to cover all persons, not just federally registared lobbyists" and "anyone else exerting influence on the process."

On 29 May 2009, Obama sent an official invitation to the Iranian terrorist regime, which has killed hundreds, possibly thousands of Americans with its Hezbollah terrorist group, to attend America's Independence Day celebrations. The regime said this was reaching out to the terrorists.

On 1 June 2009, Yemen-trained terrorist Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, already being tracked by the FBI, attacked a military recruiting office in Little Rock, killing one soldier and wounding another with a military-style SKS semi-automatic rifle. Obama had no comment. However, Obama did release a statement condemning the murder of late-term abortionist George Tiller.

On 2 June 2009, Obama stated that the Iranian regime had the right to nuclear power and that he would be OK with that so long as they proved they could be trusted. The Iranian terrorist regime owns, trains, and and commands Hezbollah, which according to the CIA and Pentagon has killed huge numbers of Americans in Iraq.

Obama should use your birth certificate to wipe his ass...

At least I have one.

At least I have one.

Inbreeding is illegal therefore yours is invalid.