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velvetsilence
05-01-2011, 11:06 PM
Bout freaking time! go USA!
Ibudin
05-01-2011, 11:07 PM
Obama got Osama.!
Elemak the Enchanter
05-01-2011, 11:22 PM
Should declare it a national holiday
Sanchek
05-01-2011, 11:39 PM
I won't believe it until I see the long-form death certificate!
Malse
05-02-2011, 01:03 AM
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Haloface
05-02-2011, 03:58 AM
What are you Americans doing awake? Thought I would beat you to it.
Congrats! Never thought we'd be talking about this all those years ago when we used to argue about 9/11. This is a fantastic day of rejoicing!
Selwen Soulgazer
05-02-2011, 08:32 AM
Obama shoulda ended that with "...now let's go get a goddamn snack!"
Osgiliath666
05-02-2011, 08:46 AM
Great job from the top down.. Especially Team 6 and the CIA SAD/SOG guys... Soild work boys.
Osgiliath666
05-02-2011, 08:49 AM
I think maube we need to close up shop in Afghanistan then... We were always there for Al Qaeda/Taliban... That is now apparently done. So do we wrap it up or stay the course and keep pounding?
Kelraz Bladesinger
05-02-2011, 09:24 AM
Directed a film for the 48 Hour Film Festival this weekend*, got 5 hours of sleep total all weekend long, so when my phone rang at 10 last night and pulled me out of bed I was pretty pissed off - but damn what an exciting story.
That cock sucker impacted this world for the worse on so many ways. Without him we never would have had the (albeit false and unjust) reasons to invade Iraq. We wouldn't have had the nation wide security panic overload. So many people have died or lost a loved one needlessly in the past decade. Worse yet is the parade of soldiers coming through Walter Reed or the Naval Medical Center who survived but have lost 1, 2, or 4 limbs or went through such terrible tragedy that they aren't ever going to be able to live the life they would have lived.
I agree w/ Osgiliath that thankfully we have a reason to get out of Afghanistan. Iraq is winding down, if Afghanistan started to wind down too finally our soldiers could come home and stop having their 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th deployments. I'm thinking we will hear more of this as we approach next November.
Osama: Satan has special pigpen waiting in hell just for you, dick.
*(I'll post the film after we screen it Wednesday)
Trikki
05-02-2011, 10:48 AM
Bullet to the head from Special Ops guy. The guy is a fucking hero and we might never know who he is.
:devil
Jensae1
05-02-2011, 11:06 AM
One of the funnier things I've found on the web so far:
http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/170334d1304310829-osama-bin-laden-dead-kdssc.jpg
And of course, gogo Fox News:
http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/170365d1304316280-osama-bin-laden-dead-p02ht.jpg
Haloface
05-02-2011, 11:18 AM
'I think maube we need to close up shop in Afghanistan then... We were always there for Al Qaeda/Taliban... That is now apparently done'
- Gosh, we really do not learn our history lessons, do we? You sound like Bush.
How - on earth - is the Taliban 'done'? 2011 has seen some of the most lethal fighting in Afghanistan.
Kelraz Bladesinger
05-02-2011, 11:49 AM
Change in the Middle East is happening this year not due to Western influence but from within. From all reports the Pakistani government was quite important in the intelligence gathering as well. Our main goal in Afghanistan was the removal of Osama Bin Laden. Why not start to scale down our Middle East presence and allow the people's will to be the catalyst for change instead of shedding doubt on if we are secretly meddling in the background?
We're still in Germany, I don't expect everyone to come home, but some forward progress is what the world and our bank accounts need.
Kelraz Bladesinger
05-02-2011, 12:11 PM
Another for Jedd:
http://i.imgur.com/GDpwT.jpg
Sanchek
05-02-2011, 12:46 PM
Did we leave Iraq immediately after finding Saddam? I'm pretty skeptical about the actual effect this will have, other than helping Obama's reelection campaign. It's not as if Osama was the driving force behind Bush's foreign policy anyway. Scapegoat, maybe, but Wolfowitz wrote what would become the "Bush Doctrine" in 1992.
The new administration may want to reverse some of that PNAC lunacy, but I'll believe it when Obama stops re-signing the Patriot Act.
Jedd Corpse
05-02-2011, 01:09 PM
It would be delusional to think that this changes anything... All this is, is a great day of retribution for us.
Bylimet Spiritwalker
05-02-2011, 02:01 PM
'I think maube we need to close up shop in Afghanistan then... We were always there for Al Qaeda/Taliban... That is now apparently done'
- Gosh, we really do not learn our history lessons, do we? You sound like Bush.
How - on earth - is the Taliban 'done'? 2011 has seen some of the most lethal fighting in Afghanistan.
The Taliban also announced within the last week that they were ready to begin an intense offensive against Western/Nato targets, as well as attacks against the peace council that had been reaching out to the Taliban in an attempt to negotiate an end to hostilities. So no, I do not think we will be speeding up the time table set for leaving Afghanistan.
(Btw, Halo, I heard there was a wedding over there.......you get a piece of cake? :)
Grats on having the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge to continue to line of the monarchy.)
Haloface
05-02-2011, 02:11 PM
Thanks mate - yes indeed I got a piece of cake. They sent it over with a guard of honour, but of course!
And you're right, while we may talk about having gone in to Afghanistan for this or for what reason, political realities on the ground dictate why we are there, and have done since the invasion in 2001.
Cloudwalker21
05-02-2011, 03:44 PM
I'm somewhat worried about being the only voice of dissent on this. I've been grappling with the news since I heard about it yesterday night (during a raid, no less). I don't really feel an ecstatic sense of joy, or the desire to whoop through the streets that the witch is dead. At best, I'm filled with some small sense of relief that someone who advocated violence in all situations can no longer do so. His death doesn't wash what happened on 9/11, nor the other attacks he organized.
I think it's pretty absurd/hypocritical that we deplore this kind of behavior when it's an insurgent filming a video of a US convoy being attacked while the insurgents cheer, when we're basically doing the same thing.
Before anyone says it, I don't think the action taken was wrong. I don't think Bin Laden deserved a chance to live when we found him. What I have an issue with is how we're inadvertently doing what we say is immoral, deplorable and evil.
Jensae1
05-02-2011, 05:43 PM
I'm somewhat worried about being the only voice of dissent on this. I've been grappling with the news since I heard about it yesterday night (during a raid, no less). I don't really feel an ecstatic sense of joy, or the desire to whoop through the streets that the witch is dead. At best, I'm filled with some small sense of relief that someone who advocated violence in all situations can no longer do so. His death doesn't wash what happened on 9/11, nor the other attacks he organized.
I think it's pretty absurd/hypocritical that we deplore this kind of behavior when it's an insurgent filming a video of a US convoy being attacked while the insurgents cheer, when we're basically doing the same thing.
Before anyone says it, I don't think the action taken was wrong. I don't think Bin Laden deserved a chance to live when we found him. What I have an issue with is how we're inadvertently doing what we say is immoral, deplorable and evil.
I agree with much of what you are saying. I do not believe in celebrating anyone's death, and certainly not with cheers and parties, but that said, some people are the bringers of great evil and their death may be a good thing.
That said, I dont really have much intention of voicing that opinion to many people since I'm unlikely to convince anyone, and in most venues such an opinion would be actively flamed, or misinterpreted (deliberately or otherwise) to be a statement of support for OBL.
But, point is you're not alone with this sentiment.
Edit: I wasn't quite explicit - I do think OBL's death is a good thing, even if it may not necessarily have a huge impact on some things. Then again, it may, as he was the figurehead and a motivational "role model" for many fanatics. And I'm pretty certain he was actively planning and supporting other acts of evil, and his death could derail these short term plans, and possibly deter some people from ever engaging in such acts.
Malse
05-02-2011, 07:07 PM
I'm reminded of that brief moment when Gladiator got all self-conscious 4th wall-y with the "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!" bit. There are people, both in the US and worldwide, today, and innumerable examples throughout history, who traveled far and often paid to watch executions of people they didn't know. They'd bring beer and their kids.
We're a sick species, and what makes us "better" than OBL his ilk is all too frequently well hidden.
Naturally the dicks over at Fox promptly resurrected this bit of bullshit electioneering from 2004 (http://www.amazon.com/Losing-Bin-Laden-Clintons-Unleashed/dp/0895260743/), proving once again that when they don't have shit, BUT CLINTON! delivers.
Ibudin
05-02-2011, 08:04 PM
I tend to agree with you Cloud. I am happy more for the soldiers who have been deployed since this hunt has begun. They feel excitement out of this, I feel excitement for them. The animal in me is happy he is dead, but the human in me doesn't feel right watching people cheer in stadiums chanting USA, I'd rather they gave it a 2 min blurp on the news and move back to Britney Spears.
Sanchek
05-02-2011, 09:23 PM
I'm somewhat worried about being the only voice of dissent on this. I've been grappling with the news since I heard about it yesterday night (during a raid, no less). I don't really feel an ecstatic sense of joy, or the desire to whoop through the streets that the witch is dead. At best, I'm filled with some small sense of relief that someone who advocated violence in all situations can no longer do so. His death doesn't wash what happened on 9/11, nor the other attacks he organized.
I think it's pretty absurd/hypocritical that we deplore this kind of behavior when it's an insurgent filming a video of a US convoy being attacked while the insurgents cheer, when we're basically doing the same thing.
Before anyone says it, I don't think the action taken was wrong. I don't think Bin Laden deserved a chance to live when we found him. What I have an issue with is how we're inadvertently doing what we say is immoral, deplorable and evil.
Seeing stuff like this, I tend to agree with you:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8JMCU6FAj6g
Osgiliath666
05-03-2011, 07:33 AM
What I found fantastic is that Waterboarding KSM at CIA black sights led to the name of the Currier. Then the currier fucks up and finally makes a cell call...
Jedd Corpse
05-03-2011, 10:52 AM
What I found fantastic is that Waterboarding KSM at CIA black sights led to the name of the Currier. Then the currier fucks up and finally makes a cell call...
wrong... the info was given using standard interrogation techniques. The person was waterboarded months before but not at the time when he actually gave the information.
"Mohammed did not reveal the names while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, former officials said. He identified them many months later under standard interrogation, they said, leaving it once again up for debate as to whether the harsh technique was a valuable tool or an unnecessarily violent tactic."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-dead-one-phone-call_n_856674.html
Osgiliath666
05-03-2011, 01:25 PM
I stand corrected as I found many reputable sites including Donald Rumsfeld say very much the same thing, but Jedd, HuffPo? That is like me posting shit from WND.. Jesus you Jihadi at least post from a reputable news site... I was running from the spoken work of Senator King (NY) on O'Reilly last night. No I do not watch O'idiot, I just heard the audio from a radio show this morning. Although I do support "harsh interrogation" techniques...
Jedd Corpse
05-03-2011, 01:58 PM
I stand corrected as I found many reputable sites including Donald Rumsfeld say very much the same thing, but Jedd, HuffPo? That is like me posting shit from WND.. Jesus you Jihadi at least post from a reputable news site... I was running from the spoken work of Senator King (NY) on O'Reilly last night. No I do not watch O'idiot, I just heard the audio from a radio show this morning. Although I do support "harsh interrogation" techniques...
Hey I saw it multiple places also I just happened to know where it was on the huffpo website and it was quicker to link to ;)
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