http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/04/05/obama_steers_clear_of_warmonge.html
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) declined twice Saturday to personally repudiate a liberal radio host's declaration that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is a "warmonger."
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McCain even broached the issue himself while speaking with reporters in Arizona. "Mr. Schultz is entitled to his views," he said. But he added, " I would hope that, in keeping with his commitment, that Senator Obama would condemn such language, since it was part of his campaign."

This is so ridiculious it defies a comment. We are now supposed to vote based on what everyone but the actual candidate says....lol...it's getting to be a bit much.

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How to find a good bottle of wine for under $10.00
So there you are, standing in the wine aisle, looking up and down, left to right, searching for a little label that says – buy this! This is good! But there is no sign, and you really don’t want to spend a lot. How can you decide, without wasting time searching magazines and websites for hours, which is your local store's best bottle of wine for under $10? Here are eight easy steps that I use:

1. Know what you’re looking for. So you want white with your steak, who cares? Whites are generally cheaper, so if you’re worried, serve chicken or pasta. Chardonnay is a go-to white for most people, but Pinot Grigio is a safe bet also. If you’re a little more daring, Riesling is sweet and icy. But red with steak is perfect, and Merlot is the go-to for reds. Cabernet Sauvignon and Zinfandel and are a bit more bold and daring, but Zinfandel is a little more expensive than Cabernet. For under $10, stay away from Pinot Noir.
2. Look for a sale. I use this as my number one rule of thumb and it never disappoints. Whether you buy at a grocery store, state-run liquor store, or a specialty store, go for the sale signs – look for the bottle with the most dollars off. If a wine is usually $15 and it’s on sale for $10 – Bingo. There’s your good $10 bottle of wine.
3. Pay attention to the label. If the wine has a funny name, or a catchy label (cartoon animal, movie star, holiday theme, anything too intricate), it’s probably not good. And for goodness' sake, don’t buy any bottle that’s shaped like a gun or a cat!
4. Look for points. Some stores help you out by posting “point” scores. Sure, these are subjective because they are someone else’s opinion, but that person probably knows a lot more about wine than you do. Generally, if it ranks 88 points and up on a scale of 100, it’s a good choice. Medals and awards are in the same pool – helpful, but subjective. Selecting a wine that has a few medals stuck to its bottle is probably leading you in the right direction.
5. Feel under the bottle. The depression on the bottom of the bottle (the “punt”) makes it stronger. People may disagree with me, but the bigger the depression, the better your chances that it’s a good wine. If they pay that much attention to bottle production, their grapes must be good, too.
6. Corks don’t matter. Is the cork natural, rubber, or a screw on? Who cares? When you look at the wine, make sure that it’s full up to the beginning of the neck – if it looks low, the cork is bad - but that rarely happens. If it tastes like vinegar, the wine has gone sour – take it back to the store (this is absolutely acceptable).
7. Where is it from? California and Australia are safe bets for this price range. The New York region wines are produced on a smaller scale so they are a bit more expensive. At this price range, Chilean and South African wines are a hit or miss, and French and Italian wines are too confusing.
8. Ask! A cop in an inner city liquor store introduced me to Australian wines – and he was right – they tend to be good and cheap. Never be afraid to ask the people working what they recommend as a good cheap wine. Tell them you just need a good “house” wine if it makes you feel better. Even if they don’t share your tastes, they know what the customers like and buy most of, and that may clue you in to what is good.

So remember - look for a sale, be critical of the bottle, and most of all, ask someone who knows, like the person working at the store! Nothing is better than enjoying a nice glass of wine that didn’t cost a day’s pay!

Sweep it under the rug then :D

Isn't he a Warmongerer?-JeddNo more than Achmedinejad.

No more than Achmedinejad.

Good... Then you would like Ahmadenijad for US prez? In the words of Will Ferrel... Thats mind Bottling.

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How to find a good bottle of wine for under $10.00I'd rep you if I could. It was such an effective derail I couldn't figure out what the next post had to do with wine, when I thought we were discussing not running out of change in the liqueur isle.

Unless you're one of the people actually deciding between democratic nominees, this is all mental masturbation. Sure, it might be fun, but it gets you all hot without the climax. Once we're down to two candidates we'll see what they really think, and public record will list enough of the nonsense that occurs during the primary process.

Thats mind Bottling.


Bottle of wine for under $10 bucks!!!! There are actually some good local vinyards here, they make a great Reisling.

Sweep it under the rug then :D
I'll put it next to McCain's riff on the Beach Boys.

Good... Then you would like Ahmadenijad for US prez? In the words of Will Ferrel... Thats mind Bottling.
I think your mind is in a bottle, because you're talking jibberish again.

I think your mind is in a bottle, because you're talking jibberish again.

Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran!

FFS Jedd, are you incapable of making at least one post without bringing Iran into it somehow?

It's beyond tiresome man.

Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran!

It is very un-patriotic to point out facts when speaking about republicans.

FFS Jedd, are you incapable of making at least one post without bringing Iran into it somehow?

It's beyond tiresome man.

Uh... That was McCain singing Bomb Iran to the Beach Boys tune.

wow, sorry for the air I breathe!

FFS Jedd, are you incapable of making at least one post without bringing Iran into it somehow?

It's beyond tiresome man.


Ummm I do believe what Jedd posted is a direct quote of McCain singing to a crowd during the primaries in I think New Hampshire. Still can't figure out why anyone would think McCain is a warmonger?

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No, I understand all the press points, tyvm, just tired of seeing Jedd working another bashing thread when we had a great derail going on damnit!

McCain was singing Bomb Iran by Vince Vance and the Valiants (which parodied the Beach Boys tune Barbara Ann). Anyone who was around during the Iran hostage crisis remembers the song well (it was a #1 hit).

http://vincevance.com/new/facts.html

I suspect McCain has a special place in heart for people who wrongfully hold others against their will. I could be wrong though.

I'd say that's a safe suspicion.

"I hate the gooks," McCain said yesterday in response to a question from reporters aboard his campaign bus. "I will hate them as long as I live."

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I suspect McCain has a special place in heart for people who wrongfully hold others against their will. I could be wrong though.


I wholeheartedly agree, you'd think that he also would be for habeus corpus and a bit against waterboarding and torture. But his votes don't seem to show that.

Weird huh.

I suspect McCain has a special place in heart for people who wrongfully hold others against their will. I could be wrong though.

So will he be the first to shut down Gitmo, and send everyone who has not been charged home?

So will be the first to shut down Gitmo, and send everyone who has not been charged home?

OMG...will you stop it with these useless facts please, how can anyone argue if you continue to present facts.

I wholeheartedly agree, you'd think that he also would be for habeus corpus and a bit against waterboarding and torture. But his votes don't seem to show that.

Weird huh.

Rover, I had come to expect better from you. Haven't you pointed out how a vote on a Bill might often have to do with more than one line in the text?


McCain has been very upfront with his position that water-boarding was torture, and that the United States should be above that. He also gave his explanation of his vote on the Bill requiring intelligence services to be restricted to following the military rules of interrogation. He pointed out gray areas, and you are now wanting only black and white. Can't have it that way, when you yourself have pointed out that not everything is black and white.

He has made several speeches on the Senate floor, and elsewhere, deploring the use of torture.

As for his comment about Gooks, and always hating them, I feel the same way. Gooks were the enemy, and he was captured and tortured by them, and I was blown up by them. The term Gooks applies to those enemies, not to every Viet Namese, or Asian. I have dated two different Viet Namese women since then (I think Eskimo might be the only "race" I have not dated), but if I had found out they were somehow connected to the North and active against our side, I would never have even talked to them.

/shrug

Rover, I had come to expect better from you. Haven't you pointed out how a vote on a Bill might often have to do with more than one line in the text?


McCain has been very upfront with his position that water-boarding was torture, and that the United States should be above that. He also gave his explanation of his vote on the Bill requiring intelligence services to be restricted to following the military rules of interrogation. He pointed out gray areas, and you are now wanting only black and white. Can't have it that way, when you yourself have pointed out that not everything is black and white.

I have said that....however it wasn't the case with this...

Quoting McCain:

He said he voted against the bill Wednesday because legislation he had helped to pass already prohibits the C.I.A. from “cruel, inhumane or degrading treatment.”


So since you passed legislation that is being blatantly ignored by this administration it's A-OK to vote the opposite on new legislation? Or could it be that he desperately needs the support of the total idiots who think that every muslim is a terrorist and every arab is a muslim and he is willing to piss all over the moral high ground just to hold the power.

I do think I remember a man who once had me awed with his principles so much that he stood up to the likes of Falwell and Robertson and told it like it is....where did that McCain go?

I like how he doesnt seem to support the new GI bill wich has broad bipartisan support or voted against a bill that would have spent a ton of money on VA hospitals. Support the troops indeed!
He is a Warmonger plain and simple.

BTW I listened to much of the Ed Shultz show today and he stuck to his guns and made sure to call McCain a Warmonger at least once a minute. Kudos to you Ed for not cowtowing to the hypocritical right wing machine.

If you didnt know this already Mr. Shultz is NOT part of the Obama camp. but an American citizen with the right to free speech and his opinions therein. Obama was correct in not repudiating his remarks. any more than he should the remarks i have and will continue to make against McCain, Bush or Darth Cheney.

To bad the video didnt show the whole speech looked like it was a bunch of war vets. He just hasnt made as many of those comments since his last run at presidency. I wondered how long it would take for someone to find the gook references.

He talks like the Archie Bunker's of America.

To bad the video didnt show the whole speech looked like it was a bunch of war vets. He just hasnt made as many of those comments since his last run at presidency. I wondered how long it would take for someone to find the gook references.

He talks like the Archie Bunker's of America.

Bomb Iran
Death to America

Same thing right? Iran r teh evil!

McCain for Prez!

I do think I remember a man who once had me awed with his principles so much that he stood up to the likes of Falwell and Robertson and told it like it is....where did that McCain go?


Unfortunately, I think he may have become a politician.

I like how he doesnt seem to support the new GI bill wich has broad bipartisan support or voted against a bill that would have spent a ton of money on VA hospitals. Support the troops indeed!





Again, Vel, I will make the same argument as I did with Rover; not to defend McCain as much as to simplify debate.

In the Bill for new GI Bill benefits what were the riders attached, what earmarks were introduced into the Bill, what could have been included that had nothing to do with veteran's benefits that made someone say, "No, I cannot support this bullshit"?

There are a wealth of reasons to argue support for candidates and non-support for others, but buying into the spin game of what Senators voted for without disclosing the complete contents of Bills is just as deceptive as the spin doctors trying to manipulate us all into following the Pied Pipers of whatever campaign.