View Full Version : Pali Dmg 2 Delay 6 Dmg Bonus 13
Dennod
11-10-2003, 09:43 PM
Why wouldn't a Pali want to use this item? I know that there are no add on stats to this item, but a delay of 6 would be mad mad sickening quick.
Didn't they nerf some 1h-er a while back because it was to low of a delay?
I would just like to see a Pali swinging this with max has or above haste with bard song.
Bixie Sword Blade
LORE ITEM MAGIC ITEM NO DROP
Weight: 1.0 Size: MEDIUM
Slot: PRIMARY
Damage: 2 Delay: 6
Ratio: 3 Good
Damage Bonus: 13 (lvl 65)
Comparative Efficiency: 141
Weapon Skill: One Hand Slash
Classes: Paladin
Races: All Races
Slot 1: Type 4
Last updated: Mon Sep 22 14:16:15 2003
Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 60
Plane of Sky
Bazzt Zzzt (Levels: 63 - 65)
Your thoughts ???
Lopp Syded
Gulor Gularin
11-10-2003, 09:50 PM
Very fast, but the dmg/delay ratio sucks bad for a paladin weapon.
Sanchek
11-10-2003, 10:16 PM
Back then, yeah. Now, not really. That 3/10 twig you're thinking of wouldn't out damage the current top end weapons, like it did back in early Kunark. Especially not for the knight classes, who get a variety of 4000 damage/20 delay weapons just to save them from rotting.
Siludorf
11-10-2003, 10:17 PM
Any cool procs that you can put on there?
Haloface
11-10-2003, 10:19 PM
Moss Covered Twig.
Was 3/10 and primary equippable.
Think it was then changed to offhand, ratio changed, then eventually taken out.
I do believe there's a monk 2hb 10/15 hanging around the server somewhere.
Kelraz Bladesinger
11-10-2003, 10:33 PM
Besides, PoP gives out an assload of riposite damage. If you hit that fast, its gonna hit you back just as fast.
Roggan Abadacus
11-10-2003, 10:43 PM
Bixie Blade got nerfed to 2/16 a while back. It's pretty worthless now and about the only thing it's used for is for a Pally quest sword (Aldryn, Blade of the Ocean), which is also pretty worthless now.
zenrkscallytail
11-10-2003, 11:35 PM
back in that day i think all weapons got he same damage bonus for one handers and two handers, that weapons and moss covered twig where like the best DPS weapons, besides a procing mistwalker before all the changes.
also remeber the dps back them it was really low.
so 2 6 back before hase cap dlys ect.. it you got that minimun hit on a 3 dly. it added up fast.
Sanchek
11-11-2003, 12:01 AM
It's just that when the godly 1H weapons were barely over a .5 ratio, the guaranteed damage bonus on 10 delay was unbeatable by the ratio of any other weapon available. Same as the 9/16 (.56) monk epic would out damage a 17/28 (.61) SoS in the main hand; regardless of the better ratio.
Now that a .5 ratio is trash you couldn't even give away, the damage bonus alone isn't able to make or break a 1H weapon. Probably for the best anyway. Choosing a weapon based more on its delay than its quality was so dumb.
RolielKotN
11-11-2003, 12:44 AM
Mobs in PoP have a much lower Armor Class than mobs in previous expansions did, so you're better off with pure ratio a lot of the time (on one handers, at least).
Dennod
11-11-2003, 01:18 AM
What about the Damage bonus of 13? Would this be a 15/6 when bonus takes effect? If so, I can't imagine something being better then a 15/6 or a 2.5/1 ratio
ThePerfectFlaw
11-11-2003, 02:09 AM
Damage bonus is how much damage is applied to a weapon after it strikes if I recall correctly, not an augment to the actual damage/delay ratio.
RolielKotN
11-11-2003, 02:12 AM
What he said.
Brellin
11-11-2003, 05:47 AM
A single base point of dmg on a weapon = 6dmg towards max hit, so a 1dmg weapon does 6 + dmg bonus in dmg, a 10dmg weapon does 60 + dmg bonus in dmg. So the max hit for a 26dmg weapon like SEM would be 156 + 13 (at 65) = 169. ( there is probably a fraction in there, like something right below 6, but 6 is pretty much a good number to go with. )
Siludorf
11-11-2003, 07:13 AM
brelpedia strikes again
Brellin
11-11-2003, 07:20 PM
Also, for those that say the formula doesn't work, this is from a 65th warriors point of view, since I happen to have all the "dmg cap" levels behind me.
Dennod
11-11-2003, 11:19 PM
Brel,
You explained it perfectly. I have had a lot of people try and explain it and you did the best job on it.
Thanks
Lopp Syded
Belzebuth666
11-11-2003, 11:30 PM
i would never use any 1hd weapon if i wanted to do dps.
if skillmods actually did something noticeable i could possibly see myself use a shield/1hd combo...maybe.
Fazin
11-12-2003, 06:07 AM
I miss the original version of MoK. That and low delay weapons. Poor pallies :/
trimlock
11-12-2003, 08:59 AM
oh you mean, the fact that i didn't have to heal any warriors/monks ever? yea why did they nerf that thing anyways? =(
Fazin
11-12-2003, 09:45 PM
Gokuu, you'd have to log on to heal anyone..!
I win.
How's your sister anyway?
trimlock
11-12-2003, 09:50 PM
shes doing fine with her husband!
Fazin
11-12-2003, 10:49 PM
You married your sister, eww:(
trimlock
11-13-2003, 08:03 AM
who wouldn't! omg
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