Greetings to all and sundry

A new guild that has formed, our mission is somewhat unique. I won't get into details here, but would invite you to check out our site at : http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=20067&TabID=182360 (work in progress, yes we are working on a normal URL LOL). Most of our membership is in transition at the moment, so our roster will start to fill up over the next couple of days.

If this is something that you feel could be of some benefit to you, feel free to stop on by and check it out.

Good luck and see ye in Norrath.

After reading everything on the site for your new guild, it looks as if its just a SoT Prep guild/alt guild. Is this correct?

call me crazy but I wouldnt think this would work.. I mean who would be happy with SOT alts getting GEAR and Flags maybe before someone's Main.. YAY!

It's exactly the point of it, yes. :)

Too many guilds out there are either casual and catering to 55+ lvl or lower (hence the low 60's get bored) or the guilds out there have their requirements set too high (Lvl 70, 150AA+ before you even look at them) for the average player who is in the low 60's. What happens here is two things (from my observations of course, some might disagree with me).

a) High end guilds set the bar REALLY high. This makes it hard for the average joe to meet the standard. This can be frustrating, especially if the only thing holding this person back is something silly like flags or gear.

b) 55+ guilds. Some are content to stay where they are, some want to aspire to be a high end guild. Sadly they usually end up the result of being used to leap frog to the higher end guilds, bleeding out what are crucial players to their advancement. Some guilds survive, but sometimes they fold due to this happening.

With PoT, we want two things:

a) a relaxed environment for players to come and enjoy what they can, when they can. There are no deadlines or the like. We will cater to the high 50's, low 60's. If someone wants more than this then:

b) GREAT! Our secondary duty is to provide flagged, geared, keyed persons to SoT so that they may replenish thier numbers as they need them. It is unrealistic to say that people don't leave this game for a number of reasons. If a member of PoT wishes to play more of a hardcore game, they can then tailor their experience with PoT towards getting themselves ready for their application to SoT. In return SoT has offered their support with raids on a strictly volunteer basis. This help alone will benefit both organizations.

This arrangement allows me to not have to worry about working towards becoming a high end guild. That guild already exists, namely Sphere of Transcendence. We provide a legitimate stepping stone to those that wish to go there (no uncomfortable posts from friends wanting more out of the game, that's what PoT is for) while at the same time it's a refuge for those that want to play with 60+ toons and raid on that level without being required to raid 6 nights a week.

This is only one aspect of PoT. I trully hope that those that come to our family really get to see the whole picture. Our goal is to simply make you and your toon better.

call me crazy but I wouldnt think this would work.. I mean who would be happy with SOT alts getting GEAR and Flags maybe before someone's Main.. YAY!
Good question, and I'll answer it.

I don't care whether it's your main or an alt. It's all raid points anyway. You earn the points, you spend the points, it's that simple. Those that put in the time and accumulate the points will obviously buy more things on raids then those that raid less. Now, it's awfully hard to outbid a Main in PoT if you raid constantly with SoT, so I don't see the problem here.

Still, I've continued to take this further. What happens when you win a piece of droppable loot on a raid? Why it's yours of course. You can sell it once you upgrade it, it's entirely up to you....or.....

You can sell it to a guildie for raid points. How does this work? Well, the scale is 1 raid point for every 10000 plat. So if a dagger is worth 50k plat, then you get 5 raid points for it. The guildie that is buying the dagger keeps their hard earned money in their pocket and just traded in a raids worth of points for an upgrade, and the other person just got 5 raid points that they can spend on all kinds of loot, even no drop. So in effect the trade off is really quite worth it, much more so then selling the gear in the bazaar. This only pertains to items though, there will be no direct trading of raid points for cash. If someone wants to sell the item afterwards, that is their own perogative.

Hope this helps :)

LOL, a negative rep point for doing this.

/sigh, I guess I should get used to this eh? :)

I wouldnt worry about it Binu go with it and see how it works out. Hell for a while there was TimeGuilds rolling through content for flags and gear was fun solely for alt loot and flags. I bet it will become a hit.

Thanks for the vote of confidence Ibudin.

I'm hoping to do some really great work with you guys :)

My sig is out dated cant count me in with the guys(SoT) anmore but I like to see what you have worked out.

Ibudin

My first reaction was, it sounds like a horrible idea.

On the other hand, the fact that they actually say that they are a stepping stone guild, could prevent people from using other guilds for that same purpose. So, makes sense to me, as long as SoT alts don't get first dibs on gear, which the rules don't point to. I hope it works well, g'luck binuven.

One thing I'm curious about, what about people that are interested in getting into the high end game, but not nessisarily SoT? Just curious.

My first reaction was, it sounds like a horrible idea.

On the other hand, the fact that they actually say that they are a stepping stone guild, could prevent people from using other guilds for that same purpose. So, makes sense to me, as long as SoT alts don't get first dibs on gear, which the rules don't point to. I hope it works well, g'luck binuven.

One thing I'm curious about, what about people that are interested in getting into the high end game, but not nessisarily SoT? Just curious.
Well, to answer your question there is really nothing that I (or anyone else for that matter) can do or say to stop you from going where ye want. I'd be fooling myself if I didn't think that this wasn't going to happen. My take on it is, if you wish to go elsewhere, we've gotten enough work out of you by the time that you actually meet the standard for whatever guild that your going to, that the guild benefitted as a whole while you were here. I can only hope that with SoT helping (volunteerly of course) and the fellowship I hope to help foster amongst our members, that it will influence you enough to go with SoT or stay in PoT. But if someone wants to leave to go elsewhere, that is their choice, they pay for the account, it's up to them. No hard feelings, I don't want people in PoT who don't want to be there. :)

Sounds like a fine idea to me.

This would seem some what interesting to me, I "was" a member of SoT. I kinda was burnt out from EQ and left without saying anything(mistake). Tried to come back but found out they wouldnt be backflagging/retagging me for a LONG time at least. Kinda dampened my spirits and bit so ive been playing FFXI(very fun game btw and getting "flagged" isnt as hardcore or drawn out as EQ process) >_< I've been trying to get back inthe game.. so I got a seperate box with Fedora im gonna try to put EQ on. Getting reflagged is my priority...

The main reason I'd like to come is I have alot of fond memories of raiding with my old guild Casus-Belli and briefly with SoT. After joining SoT I didnt really mention that I was burnt out. Most of CB knew this... however I decided to try the app process anyways. Somewhere along the line I just picked up FFXI and didnt log in for like another 6 months. I was drawn into FFXI, and still do play it. Now im incredibly behind in the game... and still yet.. I remember raiding as a passion I used to have and enjoy.

Raiding Velious for the first time, clearing ToV...
Being the first guild to kill that Velketor in Velketors Maze...with Coterie Nocturne
Clearing out Veeshans peak
Killing that iksar(whats his name) in Karnors castle
Getting Scars of Luclin and doing EVERYTHING in it... vex thal, ssraezha(sp?), etcetc!
Getting Planes of Power and raiding... most memorable to me were Agnar the Stormlord and Rallos Zek
Getting into Plane of Valor as one of the first people in it after EW. Now everyones there...
Getting into Elemental Planes
This is where I started burning out.. I had been playing a long time, long hours, and just plain was burnt out.. hard to explain but my mind wasnt in the game at all...

I really wish I was still in SoT, so I would have a guild to talk to and coordinate things with... >_< anyways (its late and im sleepy) good night!



Need trials, Xegony, The Rathe.

Yet still, why bother coming back? I got a lot of friends still in the game. However would it be worth my time coming back? Perhaps... Will see! I'm totally interested in trying WOW beta right now =D

Feeder guilds always fail after a while. I can't think of one that stayed in business more than 6 months.

Good luck with it though.

Well, see being a feeder guild is only half the picture. :)

We are also a spot for SoT players to come and relax if they feel burned out. I myself got burned out on EQ once and didn't want that to happen again, hence PoT's existance.

We are also a seperate guild in and of itself mainly directed at the lower 60's with no to lower AA counts. NOBODY is catering to that particular market. Like I've said earlier, the majority of the guilds out there (sorry for the generalization) are either 55th lvl and under or 65+ with 100+ AA and specific requirements. Between lvl 55 and lvl 65 there's a gap there. Yes you can get by on your own inbetween there, but it gets damn lonely hehe.

My goal is to provide a gathering point for those people that fall into this category: Bored with being in a guild that is mainly made up of upper 40's-lower 50's (they are welcome in PoT but their level range content is not our focus). These people have worked so hard to get up into the 60's and now must either wait for their fellow guildies to lvl up or they must leave to go to another guild just to enjoy the game. They want to experience what the game has to offer but either don't meet the standards of the higher guilds or are not confident in their abilities to be a part of these guilds.

On the flip side, this guild is also a place for the casual gamer. There are NO required raids. If what you want is a 60+ focused guild that doesn't require any major committment, then PoT is also the place for you. Not saying that we won't have raids (having SoT support is a big bonus here too), but it's more geared towards those of us with families to feed, jobs to work (including overtime), kids to raise, etc, etc, while at the same time wanting to experience what this game has to offer.

The end result? Two types of players helping each other. The people that are in a more relaxed mode helping their bretheren get to where they want to go (SoT) while at the sametime having the more hardcore players aid those of a more relaxed nature in seeing what Sony has to offer.

Will it work? Only time will tell, but I'm gonna give it my best shot. :)

Btw, you get my email and PM Sanchek?

I need a login for the guild database hehe. ;)

Feeders work on Tallon Zek , there is a feeder for PDM (Minions of Deloth) *pdm is top guild) then theres Disco which is 2nd (Fatal anarchy is feeder) then a few others like Xanadu which is elem , but they are stupid euro fucks with cheap pvp tactics or Incursion who is in the making of having a feeder who is VT/almost elem. i dont know if a feeder would work on ayonae ro but they work DAMN well on tallon zek , just my 2cp , like it matters since binuven hates me along with 90% of this board

Sounds suspiciously like the AOR only with requiring you be SoT's bitch. 0.o

Feeder guilds always fail after a while. I can't think of one that stayed in business more than 6 months.



Stars on Tunare have great success with this method. They fricken mow down Plane of Time(stars B team) and Texvu(Stars A team (better gear more aa) at the same time lol.

Ibudin

ok what about one.. if you dont set a requirement that you have to be on to raid.. YOu will rarely have enugh people on at the same time to actualy raid.. then you'l either have to call the raid off... GO for a mob in old expansion that really doesnt help, or invite out guild people which is just odd. NOt to mention what i fyour doing a MOB say a SOT member or such needs for thre ALT and at the same time SOT is doing a mob for backflagging that, that person has done before and is geting real sick of doing that mob.. now say there main is actually a needed person on SOT Guild raids, your pretty much screwing over SOT's chance to EVER kill quarm :/

Shamzy

To answer your statement, well it's like this:

We are not a required raiding guild.....BUT if that is what you want then by all means we can attempt to accomodate you. There are many motivators: loot, money (yes money, 50% of raid trash loot will be sold and split), flags, advancement, etc. There are too many "You will raid X number of days a week or else" guilds as it is, we don't need another one of those. But I feel we do need a guild that helps people get to that stage if they want to be there.

At the same time, I like to think of this guild as a place to turn to for those that are burned out on the "hardcore" path. Nothing wrong with the hardcore path mind ye. Before my son came along and I had started my own businesses I was a leveling machine who would play hours and hours at a time. After RL added a couple of extra features (Fatherhood, self responsibility for earning income) I just couldn't hack it anymore and had to leave. If there was a guild like PoT around at the time, there would probably have been a good chance that I'd still be playing Binuven to this very day.

Guys, I know this isn't going to be everybodies cup of tea, but I feel that there are very few guilds like this co-existing with another guild. We are not SoT's "bitches", we merely perform a logistical role to their tactical role. I hope it grows to the symbiotic relationship I have envisioned, but again only time will tell.

Sounds like an interesting idea, something I might be interested in. However, I did not leave the game for a year, to come back to power play, I accidentally got hooked again (I had just moved, found the eq cd's, and reinstalled to see if account still worked and say hello to my ex CB peep). However, my play time is when time permits, I have no visions of grand loot, or levelling like mad, I just wanna hang with the friends I made many moons ago, and fell out of touch with. However, those peeps tend to be in the higher end guilds, mostly EW, IVM, and SOT. This poses a problem, maybe, I dont know if there is still alot of anymosity that there was back when I was playing, and I hate that kinda bullshit... which is why so far, I have been playing an alt, and just logging on my main toon (a wizard, I have caster burnout and a flat ass since someone snagged my horse), which precludes me from entering any guild that has my friends in em... I dunno, I guess I am just rambling here heh.... we will see what happens.

By all means, come check out the site. If it seems like the place you'd like to be then come aboard. :)

The url is at the beginning of this thread.

Yeah, AOR with a guildtag. 8/

AOR let anyone and everyone in hehe, we're a little more controlled then that. :)

Haha the "minor leagues" of EQ. I like it.

Next thing you know, Eternal Wrath players will be complaining of salary caps and getting endorsements, probably from computer makers, energy drinks and snack companies.

Cull drinks Rockstar (TM) on those long raids. You should too! *pan camera towards barbarian shaman holding up drink with a big paycheck induced smile. Barbarian shaman takes a sip and says "Ahhhhhhhh!*

When Fandros get that sudden hunger while off tracking the latest uber monster, he forages up a Snickers bar! *Insert picture of Fandos in the woods eating a Snickers bar and NOT littering up Tunare's forest with the spent wrapper*

"Hello, I am the world renowned Talid the Bard. I only trust Falcon Northwest gaming hardware when I am on the most challenging raids, for one split second of hardware lag while twisting could tank the whole entire raid. is that a risk you want to take?" *Talid prances off like a typical ambigously gay bard with a Falcon Northwest logo stenciled on his ass*

"Hi, I'm Drizzen. Buy this video card or you will never get into my guild."


I need to find better shit to do while waiting on the dryer to get finished.

/chuckle

Oh man Lummus....That deal hadn't gone public yet I thought...

Fandros

LMAO

But.....we don't get endorsement deals like that in the Minor's :p

I had a guildy of mine telling me about PoT ... just when I was thinking about a guild just like this! When I joined my current guild we were basically a "trying to raid when we can, but let's have fun" guild. We are currently in a state of flux, and I do not play as much as I used to, but PoT is looking better and better!

I am not saying I am in, but I like the thought put into this and the fact that this is exactly how I want to be playing... Not having to gain 40+ AAs to get into higher end and not having to worry about not being able to raid tomorrow for whatever reason, and then being booted the day after.

I am still looking at the site, but keep up the good work and ideas Bin! ;)

Good luck with that. :)

Thanks for the support folks, believe me it's immensely appreciated :)

Really looking forward to seeing yer apps come in. If you are interested, go to the site and create your login. Then, at the top you'll see Join Plane of Transcendence. The questions will take you from there :)

I see no reason not to try it..... what harm could it cause? If I were to ever play again I would join this in an instant.

Joining a guild should be about having nothing to lose and everything to gain :)

Worse thing that happens? You don't like it and leave. /shrug

Bise, come play again :)

ps.. I saw your toon online the other night.. was not you.. I awnted to cry... just kidding about the crying part heh...

Edy.... his he still dead sexy or just plain sexy?

Plain dead :)

Damn! Good raid officers are hard to find :)

Sounds very interesting to me. I myself as many others started playing this game and quickly became addicted. This of course lead to too much time dedication to this one thing which greatly effected other aspects of my life. So as many have done or had to do, I had to become a more casual player.


My question is this, I have a 63 warrior but would like to take my currently 52 wizard alt along. Would I be able to or is there a strict requirement of 55 to 65 level range to be accepted?

Upon becoming a full member, you can put as many alts in the guild as you like :)

There is no level requirement. Though we are focusing on 60+ content, there will be raids/leveling for the pre-60's to help get them up to snuff once a week.

Please, feel free to click the link at the beginning of this post and check us out. If it's something ye'd like to do, create a login, then click Join Plane of Transcendence at the top. It'll lead you through our recruitment app from there.

What about people who have no clue how to play, I changed my main from my 63 wizard, to a 37 alt rogue I had, which I have levelled up to 49 so far (in the last 2 weeks or so with some help from some friends), I plan on playing to rogue and giving my GF, who has never played before, my wizard.. yes starting a 60+ wizard might be a bit of a learning curve, but would she be welcome, if I join, and she decides to play so does she.

Hehe, you're talking to a guy who used to be a bard and became a pally.

You won't be judged here. This is where you can come to learn what it is you need to learn. :)

What about people who have no clue how to play, I changed my main from my 63 wizard, to a 37 alt rogue I had, which I have levelled up to 49 so far (in the last 2 weeks or so with some help from some friends), I plan on playing to rogue and giving my GF, who has never played before, my wizard.. yes starting a 60+ wizard might be a bit of a learning curve, but would she be welcome, if I join, and she decides to play so does she.
Don't know how to play a rogue???? All you do is log on and go afk until it's time to drag the corpses in the Velious content....... Oh you also get to swim in loot that the Shaman don't want.... cake.

Damn, I went into the wrong class :p

Lol, I can play a rogue, my GF however has never played the game before, but she wants to try things I enjoy, so lets see if she can play a wizard.. could do no worse then me heh. I was always first to die.

she wants to try things I enjoy,

NEVER EVER LET HER GO.

Don't know how to play a rogue???? All you do is log on and go afk until it's time to drag the corpses in the Velious content....... Oh you also get to swim in loot that the Shaman don't want.... cake.Well, it helps if you load up MacroQuest while you're afk... since it can outdamage most player-run Rogues anyways.

Again, we don't care how uberly geared your toon is or how skillful you are. What we do care about is:

a) Attitude (positive preferred)
b) Willingness to learn
c) Willingness to listen
d) Patience

If you have these then by all means come on over and app. :)

Bin and Eendar and the rest of the gang ... what exactly is happening to PoT and why the break up??? I could not keep up with the guild chat and when I tried it made my head hurt! Please shed some light for all of us ...

"Bin and Eendar and the rest of the gang ... what exactly is happening to PoT and why the break up??? I could not keep up with the guild chat and when I tried it made my head hurt! Please shed some light for all of us ..."

Firstly, PoT is not breaking up. Eendar decided the stress of being a guildleader was too much, and stepped down. Twacked is now PoT's guildleader.

Bahnedoom was also a guildleader. However, he decided to close down the guild site and post that SoT and PoT were no more - this is not so. As I was told when I contacted SoT ingame, their guild will go on, but will no longer be a raiding guild. As for PoT, we are definetly NOT breaking up, and Bahnedoom was removed before he could do any serious harm, such as disbanding the guild.

If you want to know more about whats going on, you can contact the guildleader, Twacked, or any of the officers, or myself ingame.

"Bin and Eendar and the rest of the gang ... what exactly is happening to PoT and why the break up??? I could not keep up with the guild chat and when I tried it made my head hurt! Please shed some light for all of us ..."

Firstly, PoT is not breaking up. Eendar decided the stress of being a guildleader was too much, and stepped down. Twacked is now PoT's guildleader.

Bahnedoom was also a guildleader. However, he decided to close down the guild site and post that SoT and PoT were no more - this is not so. As I was told when I contacted SoT ingame, their guild will go on, but will no longer be a raiding guild. As for PoT, we are definetly NOT breaking up, and Bahnedoom was removed before he could do any serious harm, such as disbanding the guild.

If you want to know more about whats going on, you can contact the guildleader, Twacked, or any of the officers, or myself ingame.
Very good to hear my friend! Are there plans to start up a new site so that we can keep abreast of happenings?

Seeya in game,
Miegre

Aye, I'm working on it as we speak. May take a few days, I have to start from scratch as Bahnedoom shut down the old stuff. Thankfully, though, we got to the DKP page beforehand, so thats not lost (who has what points, that is.)


Very good to hear my friend! Are there plans to start up a new site so that we can keep abreast of happenings?

Seeya in game,
Miegre