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Palimax Sceleris
05-12-2005, 10:58 PM
Just so you can all hate me, I had the best 6 and a half minute run of poker ever tonight :)

$10/$20 Omaha Hi/Lo - Thursday, May 12, 22:37:32 EDT 2005
Seat 5: ThePalimax ( $200 )

$10/$20 Omaha Hi/Lo - Thursday, May 12, 22:44:11 EDT 2005
Seat 5: ThePalimax ( $611 )

The quality of a few of these hands are suspect, I agree, but it was four-handed to begin with, so 75% of the time I'm either a blind, or in position against the blinds.

#Game No : 2040398695
***** Hand History for Game 2040398695 *****
$10/$20 Omaha Hi/Lo - Thursday, May 12, 22:37:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 36472 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: steveJQ ( $487 )
Seat 4: dwdwd ( $379.5 )
Seat 6: zippo44 ( $357.5 )
Seat 5: ThePalimax ( $200 )
steveJQ posts small blind [$5].
dwdwd posts big blind [$10].
ThePalimax posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ThePalimax [ 4d Jc 3s Kh ]
ThePalimax checks.
zippo44 folds.
steveJQ folds.
dwdwd checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, 2c, Jd ]
dwdwd checks.
ThePalimax bets [$10].
dwdwd calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
dwdwd checks.
ThePalimax checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
dwdwd bets [$20].
ThePalimax raises [$40].
dwdwd calls [$20].
ThePalimax shows [ 4d, Jc, 3s, Kh ] a pair of jacks.
ThePalimax shows 6,4,3,2,A for low.
dwdwd doesn't show [ 7d, 9d, Jh, Qc ] a pair of jacks.
ThePalimax wins $61.5 from the main pot with a pair of jacks with king kicker.
ThePalimax wins Lo ($61.5) from the main pot with 6,4,3,2,A.
Game #2040402209 starts.
#Game No : 2040402209
***** Hand History for Game 2040402209 *****
$10/$20 Omaha Hi/Lo - Thursday, May 12, 22:38:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 36472 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: steveJQ ( $482 )
Seat 4: dwdwd ( $319.5 )
Seat 6: zippo44 ( $357.5 )
Seat 5: ThePalimax ( $263 )
dwdwd posts small blind [$5].
ThePalimax posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ThePalimax [ 8d 7h 2d Kc ]
zippo44 raises [$20].
steveJQ folds.
dwdwd folds.
ThePalimax folds.
zippo44 does not show cards.
zippo44 wins $35
Game #2040403801 starts.
#Game No : 2040403801
***** Hand History for Game 2040403801 *****
$10/$20 Omaha Hi/Lo - Thursday, May 12, 22:38:23 EDT 2005
Table Table 36472 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: steveJQ ( $482 )
Seat 4: dwdwd ( $314.5 )
Seat 6: zippo44 ( $372.5 )
Seat 5: ThePalimax ( $253 )
ThePalimax posts small blind [$5].
zippo44 posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ThePalimax [ 3s 5d Kc Jd ]
steveJQ folds.
dwdwd calls [$10].
ThePalimax calls [$5].
zippo44 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, Tc, Qh ]
ThePalimax checks.
zippo44 bets [$10].
dwdwd calls [$10].
ThePalimax calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
ThePalimax checks.
zippo44 bets [$20].
dwdwd folds.
ThePalimax calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]
ThePalimax checks.
zippo44 checks.
ThePalimax shows [ 3s, 5d, Kc, Jd ] a straight, nine to king.
zippo44 shows [ 7c, Qc, 3h, 7h ] a flush, queen high.
zippo44 wins $98 from the main pot with a flush, queen high.
There was no qualifying low hand.
Game #2040407185 starts.
#Game No : 2040407185
***** Hand History for Game 2040407185 *****
$10/$20 Omaha Hi/Lo - Thursday, May 12, 22:38:57 EDT 2005
Table Table 36472 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: steveJQ ( $482 )
Seat 4: dwdwd ( $294.5 )
Seat 6: zippo44 ( $430.5 )
Seat 5: ThePalimax ( $213 )
zippo44 posts small blind [$5].
steveJQ posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ThePalimax [ 7c Ac 3d 6h ]
dwdwd calls [$10].
ThePalimax calls [$10].
zippo44 calls [$5].
steveJQ checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, 5c, 6d ]
zippo44 checks.
steveJQ checks.
dwdwd checks.
ThePalimax bets [$10].
zippo44 calls [$10].
steveJQ folds.
dwdwd calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
zippo44 checks.
dwdwd checks.
ThePalimax bets [$20].
zippo44 calls [$20].
dwdwd calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ 5h ]
zippo44 bets [$20].
dwdwd calls [$20].
ThePalimax calls [$20].
zippo44 shows [ Kc, 5d, Jd, 3h ] a full house, Fives full of jacks.
dwdwd doesn't show [ 6c, 2s, Qc, Qs ] two pairs, queens and fives.
ThePalimax shows [ 7c, Ac, 3d, 6h ] two pairs, sixes and fives.
ThePalimax shows 6,5,3,2,A for low.
zippo44 wins $94 from the main pot with a full house, Fives full of jacks.
ThePalimax wins Lo ($94) from the main pot with 6,5,3,2,A.
Game #2040410640 starts.
#Game No : 2040410640
***** Hand History for Game 2040410640 *****
$10/$20 Omaha Hi/Lo - Thursday, May 12, 22:39:31 EDT 2005
Table Table 36472 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: steveJQ ( $472 )
Seat 4: dwdwd ( $234.5 )
Seat 6: zippo44 ( $464.5 )
Seat 5: ThePalimax ( $247 )
steveJQ posts small blind [$5].
dwdwd posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ThePalimax [ 3d 4s 8s Th ]
ThePalimax: motown!
ThePalimax calls [$10].
zippo44 folds.
steveJQ folds.
dwdwd checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, 2h, 5h ]
dwdwd checks.
zippo44: !
ThePalimax bets [$10].
dwdwd calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5s ]
dwdwd checks.
ThePalimax checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Qs ]
dwdwd bets [$20].
ThePalimax folds.
dwdwd does not show cards.
dwdwd wins $63
Game #2040413815 starts.
#Game No : 2040413815
***** Hand History for Game 2040413815 *****
$10/$20 Omaha Hi/Lo - Thursday, May 12, 22:40:01 EDT 2005
Table Table 36472 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: steveJQ ( $467 )
Seat 4: dwdwd ( $257.5 )
Seat 6: zippo44 ( $464.5 )
Seat 5: ThePalimax ( $227 )
dwdwd posts small blind [$5].
ThePalimax posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ThePalimax [ 6h 8h Jc 7c ]
zippo44 calls [$10].
steveJQ raises [$20].
dwdwd calls [$15].
ThePalimax calls [$10].
zippo44 calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, 7s, 9h ]
dwdwd checks.
ThePalimax bets [$10].
zippo44 calls [$10].
steveJQ calls [$10].
dwdwd calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ]
brooks1102 has joined the table.
dwdwd checks.
ThePalimax bets [$20].
zippo44 calls [$20].
steveJQ calls [$20].
dwdwd calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
dwdwd checks.
ThePalimax bets [$20].
zippo44 folds.
steveJQ calls [$20].
dwdwd calls [$20].
ThePalimax shows [ 6h, 8h, Jc, 7c ] a straight, seven to jack.
steveJQ shows [ 2d, As, 5s, Ks ] a pair of fives.
steveJQ shows 7,6,5,2,A for low.
dwdwd doesn't show [ Tc, Ad, 7d, 3h ] two pairs, tens and sevens.
dwdwd doesn't show 7,6,5,3,A for low.
ThePalimax wins $129 from the main pot with a straight, seven to jack.
steveJQ wins Lo ($129) from the main pot with 7,6,5,2,A.
Game #2040421463 starts.
#Game No : 2040421463
***** Hand History for Game 2040421463 *****
$10/$20 Omaha Hi/Lo - Thursday, May 12, 22:41:16 EDT 2005
Table Table 36472 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: steveJQ ( $526 )
Seat 4: dwdwd ( $187.5 )
Seat 6: zippo44 ( $414.5 )
Seat 5: ThePalimax ( $286 )
Seat 9: brooks1102 ( $500 )
ThePalimax posts small blind [$5].
zippo44 posts big blind [$10].
wless1 has joined the table.
brooks1102 is sitting out.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ThePalimax [ Qs 5h Ks 3d ]
steveJQ folds.
dwdwd calls [$10].
ThePalimax calls [$5].
zippo44 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, 3s, Jd ]
ThePalimax checks.
zippo44 bets [$10].
dwdwd calls [$10].
ThePalimax calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ]
ThePalimax checks.
zippo44 bets [$20].
dwdwd calls [$20].
ThePalimax calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ Js ]
ThePalimax checks.
zippo44 checks.
dwdwd bets [$20].
ThePalimax calls [$20].
zippo44 folds.
dwdwd shows [ Jc, 4s, Ts, Ah ] a flush, jack high.
ThePalimax shows [ Qs, 5h, Ks, 3d ] a flush, king high.
ThePalimax wins $158 from the main pot with a flush, king high with king kicker.
There was no qualifying low hand.
DeuceOfClub has joined the table.
Game #2040426707 starts.
#Game No : 2040426707
***** Hand History for Game 2040426707 *****
$10/$20 Omaha Hi/Lo - Thursday, May 12, 22:42:08 EDT 2005
Table Table 36472 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: steveJQ ( $526 )
Seat 4: dwdwd ( $127.5 )
Seat 6: zippo44 ( $374.5 )
Seat 5: ThePalimax ( $384 )
Seat 9: brooks1102 ( $500 )
Seat 7: wless1 ( $500 )
Seat 8: DeuceOfClub ( $127 )
zippo44 posts small blind [$5].
wless1 posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ThePalimax [ 2c 9c 3h 8c ]
oberbayern has joined the table.
steveJQ folds.
dwdwd folds.
ThePalimax calls [$10].
zippo44 calls [$5].
wless1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, 7c, 5h ]
zippo44 checks.
wless1 checks.
ThePalimax bets [$10].
zippo44 folds.
wless1 calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kd ]
wless1 checks.
ThePalimax checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 2h ]
wless1 checks.
ThePalimax bets [$20].
wless1 folds.
ThePalimax does not show cards.
ThePalimax wins $68
Game #2040430338 starts.
#Game No : 2040430338
***** Hand History for Game 2040430338 *****
$10/$20 Omaha Hi/Lo - Thursday, May 12, 22:42:44 EDT 2005
Table Table 36472 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: steveJQ ( $526 )
Seat 4: dwdwd ( $127.5 )
Seat 6: zippo44 ( $364.5 )
Seat 5: ThePalimax ( $412 )
Seat 9: brooks1102 ( $500 )
Seat 7: wless1 ( $480 )
Seat 8: DeuceOfClub ( $127 )
Seat 3: oberbayern ( $500 )
wless1 posts small blind [$5].
DeuceOfClub posts big blind [$10].
brooks1102 is sitting out.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ThePalimax [ 2h 6h 6c 3h ]
steveJQ calls [$10].
dwdwd folds.
ThePalimax calls [$10].
zippo44 folds.
wless1 calls [$5].
DeuceOfClub checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, 8d, 8c ]
wless1 checks.
DeuceOfClub checks.
steveJQ checks.
ThePalimax bets [$10].
wless1 folds.
DeuceOfClub folds.
steveJQ calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ]
steveJQ checks.
ThePalimax checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
steveJQ checks.
ThePalimax checks.
steveJQ shows [ 3d, Ac, 9d, 4c ] three of a kind, eights.
ThePalimax shows [ 2h, 6h, 6c, 3h ] a full house, Eights full of sixes.
ThePalimax wins $57 from the main pot with a full house, Eights full of sixes.
There was no qualifying low hand.
Game #2040434402 starts.
#Game No : 2040434402
***** Hand History for Game 2040434402 *****
$10/$20 Omaha Hi/Lo - Thursday, May 12, 22:43:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 36472 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: steveJQ ( $506 )
Seat 4: dwdwd ( $222.5 )
Seat 6: zippo44 ( $364.5 )
Seat 5: ThePalimax ( $449 )
Seat 9: brooks1102 ( $500 )
Seat 7: wless1 ( $470 )
Seat 8: DeuceOfClub ( $117 )
Seat 3: oberbayern ( $500 )
DeuceOfClub posts small blind [$5].
brooks1102 posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ThePalimax [ 2s Ac Tc 9c ]
steveJQ folds.
dwdwd calls [$10].
ThePalimax raises [$20].
zippo44 folds.
wless1 folds.
DeuceOfClub folds.
brooks1102 calls [$10].
dwdwd calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, 4h, 4d ]
brooks1102 checks.
dwdwd bets [$10].
ThePalimax calls [$10].
brooks1102 raises [$20].
dwdwd calls [$10].
ThePalimax calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ]
brooks1102 bets [$20].
dwdwd calls [$20].
ThePalimax calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]
brooks1102 bets [$20].
dwdwd calls [$20].
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ThePalimax calls [$20].
brooks1102 shows [ 3c, Th, 4c, Ad ] three of a kind, fours.
dwdwd shows [ 4s, Jh, Qs, Ah ] three of a kind, fours.
ThePalimax shows [ 2s, Ac, Tc, 9c ] three of a kind, nines.
ThePalimax wins $242 from the main pot with three of a kind, nines.
There was no qualifying low hand.
Game #2040439043 starts.

Ogan
05-13-2005, 09:38 AM
Nice run Pali...

Sanchek
05-13-2005, 09:40 AM
What's that mean in English?

Ogan
05-13-2005, 10:05 AM
Means he won 481 bucks in about 10 minutes.. And like he said some of those hands he wouldnt even consider playing on a full table =)

Anterak
05-13-2005, 10:30 AM
To explain a bit more :
I'll assume you know what poker is (possible combinaisons for a 5 cards hand with order of value).
He was playing Omaha Hi/Lo (High/Low) poker, a "playful" version of poker where the best and worst (means without pair or better, straight is possible iirc) hands share the pot. You start with 4 "hidden" cards dealt to each player, then there is a bet turn, then the flop where 3 "shown" cards are on the board shared with all players, a bet turn, the turn with one new card on the board, a bet turn, the river with the final card for all players on the board, and a final bet turn.
Each player has to make the best (and worst in this kind of poker) hand of 5 cards, with the obligation to use 2 cards from their first deal.

With this, let show what Pali did in this first game :

Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: steveJQ ( $487 )
Seat 4: dwdwd ( $379.5 )
Seat 6: zippo44 ( $357.5 )
Seat 5: ThePalimax ( $200 )
Our 4 players.

steveJQ posts small blind [$5].
dwdwd posts big blind [$10].
ThePalimax posts big blind [$10].
Blinds are forced bets for the 2 players next to dealer, to have a cash flow on every game. Big blind being the minimal bet. Pali posts a big one too because it's his first game at this table.

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ThePalimax [ 4d Jc 3s Kh ]
4 of diamond, Jack of club, 3 of spade and King of heart for Pali 4 hidden cards.
Jack and King for Hi, 3 and 4 for Lo, good deal if you ask me. ;)

ThePalimax checks.
zippo44 folds.
steveJQ folds.
dwdwd checks.
Big blinders remain, no bet made, flop to be dealt.

** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, 2c, Jd ]
Ten of heart, 2 of club, Jack of diamond.

dwdwd checks.
ThePalimax bets [$10].
dwdwd calls [$10].
This one is easy to figure. Pali lets know dwdwd he has something. (pair of Jacks)

** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
dwdwd checks.
ThePalimax checks.
6 of diamond for turn, brings apparently nothing to each player.

** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
dwdwd bets [$20].
ThePalimax raises [$40].
dwdwd calls [$20].
Ace of club, dwdwd buys this juicy ace, but Pali raises, and dwdwd calls to show cards.

ThePalimax shows [ 4d, Jc, 3s, Kh ] a pair of jacks.
ThePalimax shows 6,4,3,2,A for low.
dwdwd doesn't show [ 7d, 9d, Jh, Qc ] a pair of jacks.
ThePalimax wins $61.5 from the main pot with a pair of jacks with king kicker.
ThePalimax wins Lo ($61.5) from the main pot with 6,4,3,2,A.
Both players show a pair of Jacks for high half of the pot, his king "kicking" dwdwd's queen.
And Pali wins as well low half, his almost straight from ace beats the 7/9 of diamonds dwdwd's low.

As Ogan said he won nice pots quite quickly, with quite "courageous" hands. ;)
But I guess that's what Omaha is all about.

Hope it's in good english now!

mirdorr
05-13-2005, 06:00 PM
Interesting - I didn't now you played both high and low at the same time. Whenver I played with friends, we did this thing were you choose whether you were playing for the high or low pot.

Palimax Sceleris
05-13-2005, 06:12 PM
Yeah, Omaha High-Low (or Omaha/8 - for "Eight or Better") is played high and low at the same time.

AA23 or AA2K with both aces suited to the 23/2K are considered the best possible starting hands for the game.

Focusing on Omaha High-Only for a second, the primariy difference between it and Hold'em is that you must always play TWO and exactly TWO cards from your hand for the pot.

If the board is As Ks Qs Ts 4c, and you have Js 2c 2h 2d in your hand, you do not have a stright flush. In fact, you have no flush at all. Furthermore, your best possible hand is a pair of two's, playing 22AKQ for your best possible hand.

In Omaha High-Low, not only do you try to make the best possible hand, but you also try to make the best low hand. The best low hand is, regardless of suit, A2345. The worst possible playing low hand is 45678. To qualify for a low hand there must be five total unique cards eight or less; three from the board, and two from your hand. That, right there, is the single most misunderstood facet of the low portion of Omaha.

If you have AA23, the most powerful hand in Omaha/8, and the board ends up being KAA24, you will most likely end up winning the high with AAAAK, but you won't be able to win the low. You won't have five UNIQUE cards 8 or under. The best low hand in this example, is, of course, 3-5, which makes the wheel.

Finally, you have to understand that, in the AA23 example, you play exactly two cards for the high, and exactly two cards for the low, but they can overlap. If the board ends up A278K, you would make AAA9K (with your two aces) for a high, and A2378 for the low, playing YOUR A3, and the board's 278. So, in this example, you use AA, and A3, and never use your 2. It confuses some people. Since you en up playing an 8-low in this example, anyone with almost any other two low cards would be able to beat you. A 65 would even beat you (because they make A2567), and 34 would make the best possible low hand of A2347.

I hope that helps more than it confuses :)