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Rover
05-14-2009, 09:25 AM
When you go to the link...try to watch the video before you read the article. In fact if you could just watch the video and comment.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/13/police-brutality-cops-pun_n_203245.html
Beelziod
05-14-2009, 10:41 AM
I doubt the high five had anything to do with the kick in the head. I was a bit concerned when the cop moved the guys leg in what looked like an encouragement for the police dog to bite the guy. That could be misconstrued but the kick in the head was not misunderstood.
Fire the cop, file brutality charges if not felony battery charges and be done with it.
Gulor Gularin
05-14-2009, 11:21 AM
Yep. It looked to me like the cop took the cheap shot before the other cops arrived. I doubt the high five had anything to do with that (more likely it was because they caught the guy). Nonetheless, that first cop has a lot of 'splainin to do.
Bust him out and charge him. We don't need cops like that "protecting the public".
Ibudin
05-14-2009, 02:32 PM
Morale of the story guys....don't run from the COPS....he wouldn't of got the boot to the head.
Jedd Corpse
05-14-2009, 03:02 PM
Morale of the story guys....don't run from the COPS....he wouldn't of got the boot to the head.
Exactly!
Greystone Thorngage
05-14-2009, 03:22 PM
No, screw that. He laid down and complied after he complied, he got kicked in the head. Fire the cop, you cannot blame that on adrenaline because what happens if the guys flinches wrong he gets 3 warning shots in the back?
Ibudin
05-14-2009, 03:33 PM
He would of been better off pulling over before trying to evade the police, all this could of been avoided. If you run from the police, you risk everyones life around you including your own. There are no warning shots with police, they shoot to kill.
Jedd Corpse
05-14-2009, 03:44 PM
No, screw that. He laid down and complied after he complied, he got kicked in the head. Fire the cop, you cannot blame that on adrenaline because what happens if the guys flinches wrong he gets 3 warning shots in the back?
It was the wrong thing to do... but I don't care.
I would rather the cop be on the street then that idiot he kicked.
Run from the cops and you deserve to get kicked in the head stupid! :)
It was the wrong thing to do... but I don't care.
I would rather the cop be on the street then that idiot he kicked.
Run from the cops and you deserve to get kicked in the head stupid! :)
I agree........ that fool escalated the incident and a kick to the top of the head isn't all that bad.... yes he was on the ground but I'm going to cut the officer some slack.....
The high five were by two different cops it looked like...but I didn't read the article....
Sanchek
05-14-2009, 04:17 PM
That wasn't as egregious as a lot of the other things happening lately with law enforcement going batshit crazy. I wouldn't think that warrants the cop getting canned, but there should definitely be some punishment.
Rover
05-14-2009, 05:50 PM
I agree........ that fool escalated the incident and a kick to the top of the head isn't all that bad.... yes he was on the ground but I'm going to cut the officer some slack.....
The high five were by two different cops it looked like...but I didn't read the article....
The reason why I posted to not read the article was to just make a decision on the video evidence. The cop was wrong and should probably go to some type of extra training/counseling. Should he be fired? IMO depends on his past record.
Ailwon
05-14-2009, 06:00 PM
The cop deserves some discipline...and maybe counseling, however, I'm not all that broken up about a gang punk that endangers everyone (and who knows what else) getting kicked in the head. Too bad he didn't resist and get capped.
Kanyli
05-14-2009, 08:41 PM
While I'm not defending the punk at all...authority figures and leaders need to be a cut above, or find another job. The officer's job is to uphold the law, plain and simple, not break it as he sees fit. If you can't control your temper, you don't get a badge and gun, it's that simple.
Chanur
05-14-2009, 08:55 PM
Speaking as someone that had their car stolen 2 weeks ago, and was involved in a high speed chase that cause lots of damage both to the town and my car, The kick in the head was over the top but I don't really care. Evading the police is a MAJOR felony. The cop should get some discipline, forced training/counseling and unpaid time off, assuming this is not a common occurrence.
Oh by the way the guy that stole my car, got away, and did another car 2 days later with yet another high speed chase that luckily ended up with him going to the hospital. Where he tried to steal yet another car to get away. They found him with stolen property from our car, so he is getting 3 counts of grand theft auto, as well as evading arrest, and a bunch of other crap. He was also on probation already...for stealing cars. He will get atleast 10 years this time.
Auto theft + high speed chase + damage to property + fleeing on foot > kick to the head
Beelziod
05-15-2009, 10:15 AM
Where is the moral standing here. Let the justice system take care of the criminal. I don't want the cops turning into criminals because it's justified in the eyes of the public. If you can't control your temper you shouldn't be a cop. Cops are not supposed to be criminals with badges. If the public accepts this type of behavior then so will the courts, hold the cop accountable.
Cops are human.... they are not robots with zero emotion....
Gulor Gularin
05-15-2009, 04:38 PM
Still, the other cops arriving on the scene managed to restrain themselves from beating on the guy. He also got his shot in before any other cops arrived, then stopped before the others arrived. If he had been truly enraged, I think there would have been more than just the one kick.
IMO it is clearly a case of a cop putting in an unwarranted cheap shot to "teach the perp a lesson". He didn't deliver the kick in response to violence by the suspect (which would be emotionally understandable). We don't need that kind of mentality in a position of power over the public.
Ailwon
05-15-2009, 04:47 PM
I'm not saying it's right...he needs to be disciplined and counseled on his temper...assuming this is an isolated incident. But fire him based on this, hell no if it's the first time something like this has happened. He needs to know it's not acceptable....but I zero pity for that punk pile of crap.
Sixee
05-15-2009, 06:02 PM
I tend to agree. It was a little over the top. Also, we don't know what was being said. While we see the man laying down on the ground, he could have been saying all sorts of things to warrant the cheap shot the cop took.
I doubt it, though. And the 2 that High 5'd were different officers. They probably didn't even know the kick took place.
Elemak the Enchanter
05-15-2009, 08:02 PM
I was watching the whole thing on TV while one of my patients was using the treadmill the other day. This dude should have been shot in the face not kicked.
Easy to Justify it this one, if a dirtbag is going to go to the lengths he did to evade it's highly likely he is going to try some funny business with a single cop on scene. If it had been me I'd have given him a WWE style elbow drop to make sure he wasn't going to get up before I stuffed and cuffed him. Had he dopne this with like 5 other cops there I'd say no it wasn't but one dude, probably out of breath and vulnerable = boot to the head for the perp.
Kelraz Bladesinger
05-15-2009, 10:11 PM
I was watching the whole thing on TV while one of my patients was using the treadmill the other day. This dude should have been shot in the face not kicked.
Easy to Justify it this one, if a dirtbag is going to go to the lengths he did to evade it's highly likely he is going to try some funny business with a single cop on scene. If it had been me I'd have given him a WWE style elbow drop to make sure he wasn't going to get up before I stuffed and cuffed him. Had he dopne this with like 5 other cops there I'd say no it wasn't but one dude, probably out of breath and vulnerable = boot to the head for the perp.
And right here we have a great argument why the police officer should never be allowed to work another day, for fear he shares Elemak's mentality.
Elemak the Enchanter
05-15-2009, 10:33 PM
Right because someone who is willing to lead police on an hour long chase through town risking the lives of countless innocents while there is obviously no hope of escape is certainly not going to try and fake out an officer in a last ditch attempt to flee, or perhaps wrestle the officer's gun away from him.
Or to make sure the criminal doesn't try anything stupid the officer can use force to ensure he won't be getting up any time soon. Would I have kicked him in the face were I in that cop's shoes? Probably not, but I can assure you I'd do something to make sure the shitbag didn't try anything funny. (i.e. kneedrop to the back, or something similar to knock the wind/fight out of him if he had any left.
Where can I buy a pair of your rose colored glasses?
Edit: And as for the two cops high fiving each other, they shouldn't be doing that, not because their buddy just kicked the guy, but because they botched about 4 or 5 good chances to have stopped the guy's car during the chase
Sanchek
05-15-2009, 10:43 PM
I don't buy that for a second. If he was really so worried about the perp trickerating him, the last thing he should've done was throw a foot toward the perp and risk losing his balance.
Elemak the Enchanter
05-16-2009, 02:39 AM
Oh I don't deny his method was very flawed; you never come from the front or directly behind, a rough 45 degree angle from the target's rear is best. However, what I suspect (and hope) his intentions to make sure he wasn't going to try shit because his previous behavior indicates he would.
Trickerating !!! ftw :)
I didn't know ******** spoke criminalese !!1
velvetsilence
05-16-2009, 10:45 AM
probably out of breath and vulnerable
So standing 6-8 feet away from a prone perp with your loaded weapon trained on him equates to vulnerable? had the perp made any move towards the officer he would most certainly be dead and the shooting justifiable.
Dont get me wrong that douche bag deserves to be severly punished. but thats the job of the judiciary not the police.
Kelraz Bladesinger
05-16-2009, 12:28 PM
What's worse, is that kicking him in the head hurts the case against him.
What's worse, is that kicking him in the head hurts the case against him.
How?
Because he can say he was scared of the police so he ran?
Rover
05-16-2009, 02:02 PM
How?
Because he can say he was scared of the police so he ran?
Pretty much so, unfortunately.
Chanur
05-16-2009, 11:58 PM
Didn't he also hit someone head on? Should have just shot him and claimed mental distress.
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