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Osgiliath666
10-23-2008, 04:25 PM
THE LESS-THAN-GREAT, SELF-STYLED HUMANITARIAN-GENTLE INTELLECTUAL GENERAL

The Real Powell Record and Doctrine

http://www.850koa.com/cc-common/mlib/668/10/668_1224625107.JPGPowell was given an "unsat" fitness report by his commanding general, Gen. John Hudachek, who refused to recommend Powell for promotion, rating him as one of his worst majors and officers. This would normally have been a career-ending report, but the military's Affirmative Action-style program saved Powell's career.

1969: Powell is assigned as the investigating officer for the Americal Division regarding the My Lai massacre, where between 347 and 504 innocent men, women and children were massacred by Lieutenant William Calley's platoon. Rather than conducting a thorough, accurate and professional investigation, Powell said that soldier Tom Glen's report of the massacre was false, and that: "In direct refutation of this portrayal [the soldier's report] is the fact that relations between American soldiers and the Vietnamese people are excellent."

Result: Shortly after Powell wrote the false report that whitewashed the massacre, he was transfered far away to George Washington University to complete his MBA and promoted to lieutenant colonel, and was then given the very cush position of White House Fellow under Nixon.

1989: As the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Powell failed to prevent Panamian dictator Manuel Noriega from establishing and building his narcotics-smuggling operation, which led to the murder, shootings and beatings of US forces by Panamanian para-military thugs loyal to Noriega.

Result: High-ranking officers within the Panamanian Defense Forces who opposed Noriega offered to capture and deliver Noriega to the US, but Powell refused. As the situation escalated, Powell eventually had to recommend that we go to war with Panama, which resulted in 23 US troops killed.

1991: Against recommendations, CJCS General Powell refused to recommend the total destruction of Saddam's Republican Guard during the Gulf War.

Result: Saddam held onto power with the protection of the Republican Guard, who then orchestrated the genocide of so many Shiite Arabs in Iraq, including the "marsh" Arabs.

1991-1993: As Saddam began violating the surrender document on Powell's watch, Powell refused to recommend decisive action.

Result: The horrific genocide Saddam ordered against many Shiites in Iraq continued unabated.

1991-1993: The stage was being set for genocide in the Balkans on Powell's watch as CJCS, who refused to take any steps that could have prevented the disaster.

Result: The Balkans War of the 1990s that killed staggering numbers via genocide and other war crimes. The US and NATO eventually had to invade. US forces are still there, as are many war criminals who remain on the loose.

2001: Secretary of State Powell co-authors the Inter-American Democratic Charter, which he claimed would bring peace and democracy to all of the Americas.

Result: Death squads and butchery in Guatemala, the return of Marxist Sandinista dictator Daniel Ortega to Nicaragua, the seizure of power in Venezuela by dictator Hugo Chavez, the taking of power in Bolivia by socialist dictator Evo Morale, the increase in power in Colombia of the FARC narco-terrorist group, and the descent into anarchy of Mexico as narco-terrorist groups slaughter thousands.

2003: Powell, as Secretary of State and an alleged expert at intelligence, falsely claimed before the UN that Saddam had rebuilt his WMD program, to include a nuclear weapons program with yellowcake from Niger.

Result: Powell recommended the invasion of Iraq at a cost of 4,000+ US lives.

2004: White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card, according to Card, informed Powell that the president desired his resignation. Powell left office the following January.

15 September 2008: Powell stated at George Washington University that he considered race a factor when selecting a president and that an African-American president would be "electrifying."

19 October 2008: Powell endorses Barack Obama for president.

20 October 2008: Despite all of the above, Obama states Powell could be given one of the highest advisor positions in his administration.

Lleauric
10-23-2008, 04:46 PM
Why?

Because he disagrees with you?

Nice.

Stay Classy Republicans.

Greystone Thorngage
10-23-2008, 05:27 PM
you would of drank his pee 8 years ago.....so sad

Jedd Corpse
10-23-2008, 05:29 PM
The death throes of the republican party... So sad

Sanchek
10-23-2008, 05:37 PM
Meh, there are no Republicans involved in this garbage. NeoCons.

Bylimet Spiritwalker
10-23-2008, 06:47 PM
Very, very disappointing.

A man that was held up as a shining example and courted by the party as a possible candidate, who served as Secretary of State under Bush, is now going to be vilified by those same people because he prefers to endorse the other guy.

A great example of how petty so many have become.

Rover
10-23-2008, 06:50 PM
heh...all of that and they left out he's black. I mean if you're going to really try to shit on a pretty much stellar record why not throw race in there, you've already shown yourself to be the absolute lowest common denominator why not go for the bonus point?

Oh. and did I mention my love for General Tsaos chicken? We have a really good chinese restuarant here, as good as any in NYC, that makes an excellent General Tsaos.

Elemak the Enchanter
10-23-2008, 07:00 PM
I'd still vote for him if he ran for president.

Greystone Thorngage
10-23-2008, 07:42 PM
hell id give it a thought if he ran

Rover
10-23-2008, 08:00 PM
19 October 2008: Powell endorses Barack Obama for president.

20 October 2008: Despite all of the above, Obama states Powell could be given one of the highest advisor positions in his administration.


The funny part is this above, excluding the Sept and October 2008 things all of the above occured before and during Powells appointments by republicans.

That being said, lets look at the accuracy of the statements.

Anyone, please feel free to look them up, I Know a lot about Powell and his career and I assure you quite a bit of that is inaccurate and WAY out of context. I'm just too tired to point it out by typing.


I don't know what it is like now, but one thing I took to heart when I arrived at Parris Island was the words of one of the Sgt's in receiving to my platoon as we arrived: "There are no spicks, niggers or white boys here there is light green and dark green and if you so much as say anything other than that I will break your fucking legs...is that understood?" and honestly, I think that is how Powell views the world, I know I do.

Grift3r
10-24-2008, 09:31 AM
So, for the past few months I've been eating GoLean Crunch for breakfast. It seems to fill me up a lot more that other breakfast food and it is healthy to boot!

Fandros
10-24-2008, 10:41 AM
Meh, there are no Republicans involved in this garbage. NeoCons.

Thank you San, you are exactly right.

But the rest of you keep on generalizing, it's awesome!!

For the record this Republican would still vote for Powell should he run.

Sixee
10-24-2008, 10:52 AM
Powell > McCain.

Neocons =/= Republicans

Taleren Bloodsong
10-24-2008, 10:55 AM
Neocons =/= Republicans

Though the RNC doesn't seem to differentiate between the two.

Jedd Corpse
10-24-2008, 11:08 AM
Can't tell the difference... Sorry Repubs :)

Sixee
10-24-2008, 12:25 PM
Can't tell the difference... Sorry Repubs :)


So Democrats = Socialists because I can't tell the difference?

Rover
10-24-2008, 01:34 PM
Please give YOUR definition of a socialist, without Googling it or looking it up anywhere.

Sanchek
10-24-2008, 01:41 PM
I'll be the first to admit that I often blur the distinctions between Communism and Socialism, myself.

Sixee
10-24-2008, 02:06 PM
Socialists believe that everyone should be treated equal, regardless of race, color, or creed. Individualism tends to suffer in that environment, in my opinion. Why be different when you are all the same?

They also tend to believe that the means of production should be shared, and not controlled by only the few. While that's a great idea, the only driving force for any sort of progress would be the desire to help your fellow man. Given the state of people's attitudes today, there doesn't seem to be an abundance of that floating around....

Lleauric
10-24-2008, 03:04 PM
Oh I agree.

But the Neo-Cons started as the parasite and are now the host. They HAVE taken control over the Republican Party.

Here.. you want to know what went wrong? This paragraph sums it up as well as I have ever seen.

For years, many of the elite conservatives were happy to harvest the votes of devout Christians and gun owners by waging a phony class war against "liberal elitists" and "leftist intellectuals." Suddenly, the conservative writers are discovering that the very anti-intellectualism their side courted and encouraged has begun to consume their movement.

The cause of Edmund Burke, Leo Strauss, Robert Nisbet and William F. Buckley Jr. is now in the hands of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity--and Sarah Palin. Reason has been overwhelmed by propaganda, ideas by slogans, learned manifestoes by direct-mail hit pieces.

And then there is George W. Bush. Conservatives once hailed him for creating an enduring majority on behalf of their cause. Now, they cast him as the goat in their story of decline.

Malse
10-24-2008, 03:50 PM
Republicans as a whole stopped caring about ideology and became something like a cult of personality, only more defined by what they feared and hated than what they were trying to become. I'm deeply afraid of characters like Palain forming their own persona cults out of that, that's the road to actual authoritarianism -- trust Bush, trust Palin, they're with us ...


And it is easy to confuse socialism and communism because in theoretical forms socialism can be a superclass of communism. It is also worth noting that communism has never actually been implemented on a large scale (more than a few hundred people), and socialism is generally implemented as social democracy.

Cloudwalker21
10-24-2008, 05:04 PM
2003: Powell, as Secretary of State and an alleged expert at intelligence, falsely claimed before the UN that Saddam had rebuilt his WMD program, to include a nuclear weapons program with yellowcake from Niger.

Result: Powell recommended the invasion of Iraq at a cost of 4,000+ US lives.


Him and everyone else that said something to the same effect. Don't try to lay all of it on his doorstep. *rolls eyes*

Osgiliath666
10-24-2008, 05:42 PM
Stupid bitch faked it... Now I know it is extremely possible a huge black dude WOULD do that, but damn if you are going to fake it at least get a solid story in your head and stick with it now matter what. Never deviate at all from the story not even one 1% away from the story..

LummusL
10-24-2008, 06:05 PM
Either you jump ship or go down with it. Maybe Powell didn't like the tune the band was playing or the deck chair was not comfortable. Also, there is a good chance Powell was never 100% "on board" with the whole Republican dogma anyway. A good general knows to keep his/her nose out of the true "politics" that comes with being in that position. The current commander of the forces in Iraq refuses to vote and has no political party affilation. Why?

Objectivity.

Soldiers have a job to do, and that is to conduct warfare. Its got to be done and its hard enough without some political idealology nagging in the background. Powell could very well have done a fine job for Bush Sr. all the while hating his guts and his policies.

Bylimet Spiritwalker
10-24-2008, 06:15 PM
Soldiers have a job to do, and that is to conduct warfare. Its got to be done and its hard enough without some political idealology nagging in the background.


Damn, talk about deja vu!

I would swear we were saying the same thing during our days in Nam.

Jedd Corpse
10-24-2008, 06:18 PM
He hates bush and he hated what he did. Goldie Hawn was a customer of mine, and she told me she had lunch with him from time to time, as they are friends. She said he was sick with the bs he had to do and say.

Rover
10-24-2008, 06:42 PM
Soldiers have a job to do, and that is to conduct warfare. Its got to be done and its hard enough without some political idealology nagging in the background. Powell could very well have done a fine job for Bush Sr. all the while hating his guts and his policies.


That is something that a lot, not all, who have not been in the military have really no understanding of.

Jedd Corpse
10-31-2008, 09:55 PM
He must be endorsing Obama because of his white half...

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/31/former-reagan-adviser-endorses-obama/

(CNN) — Former Reagan chief of staff Ken Duberstein told CNN's Fareed Zakaria this week he intends to vote for Democrat Barack Obama on Tuesday.