www.6thboro.com/misc/Devani1.htm (http://www.6thboro.com/misc/Devani1.htm)

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Now that guy doesnt seem too smart, but I'd like to throw in a comment.
So this guy slept with a 14-16 years old as he was 19.

My gf was 16 as I slept with her when I was 18.
Please, how many of you slept with a girl under 17? If you're 18-20 this is something that well.. isn't that rare you know.

Calling someone a pedophile for it and even convicting someone for it is plain stupid. Thats a shitty law. Its as stupid as the law that still forbids homosexuality in certain states.
For gods sake, wake up. Its a fact that teenagers start having sex at the age of 14, sometimes 12. Sorry, we're there. no way to deny it anymore.
Now I personally lost my virginity at 18 and I am fine with it, was a good age. Additionally I do really really not like any women under 20 (or even 24+) as they simply are girls and do not bring a certain mature level that I would like from a partner.

But this doesn't change the fact that I am sure around 50% of all sexual active 17-20 years old men have or had sex with a girl under 17. Let sput them all in jail! Perverts!

Now if a 30 years old (or yeah, if you want also a 25 years old) had sex with an under 17 years old, thats something different, IMO.


But anyways.. back to the topic. Yep. pwned.

damn, thats some hardcore pwnage right there

If i was a child prodigy with the mental age of an adult and a high mental and sexual capacity, had already been through school and got a degree etc at the age of 12 and lived and worked with all the adults of the world, would i be a paedophile for sleeping with someone my own age?

Talking about ownage...
Enjoy (http://fjutt.adm.gu.se/~fjutt/eq/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5360)!

They hate each other too, not just americans.....

At what point do you draw the line though Taino? 23 sleeping with 15? 24 and 16? 22 and 13?

Laws are in place for a basis really. Very few people are gonna fault you for sleeping with a 16 year old when you were 18 so long as she was fucking hot.

However, it's kinda like driving around with a busted speedometer in your car. The cops don't have a problem with it until you get caught speeding.

Poor example I know, but I just got up a few minutes ago and I can't find my mountain dew. 8(

Actually, at least in Arizona a few years back, there were laws that provided very specific instances to protect 18 to 16 year olds fooling around, I think under the basis that they would be in school together. Something along the lines of both parties had to be in high school, within a certain number of months, something like that. Been too long since I looked at statutes, but it was there.

Those laws aren't meant to punish people. The government doesn't sit around trying to decide how to keep people from having fun - developmentally there is a huge difference from 14 to 16 and 16 to 18. Taino even pointed out the difference in maturity levels. The law is meant to protect children.

As for how many guys have done it or how tempting it is, I'd suggest self control in that area. I don't much like that excuse, that everyone does it.

There was this 18 year old banging this 16 year old chick, and her dad called the cops on him, and had him arrested for statuatory rape.

They are married now, and I'm guessing it's still on his record.

That is simply the biggest PWN!!! I have ever had the pleasure of reading... Read the whole thread. It's worth it.

Though the situation is common, it's not that hard to avoid in the U.S. High school and college provide convenient divisions. If you're in college, you most often hang out with college women.

Well I read the post and quite frankly I have a problem with this.
The comment is made on the "assumption" that the convicted fellon is the same guy as Devani.
There is no proof this devani is named marc smith in rl and even then how many marc smiths are there in the us?
To post this in there and saying that its him without any proof or even making it credible is crossing the line in my opinion.
If you read the whole post you'll see to guys going at each other and making each other rediculous over and over dragging RL into it.
In my opinion rrazorfists crossed the line here for all I know he could have taken a random person from the sexoffender board and post it.

And for the rest I agree with Taino mostly, allthough I agree that it is very difficult to set a hard age rule here.
But something like 5 years age difference for a 16 year old and 3 years for a 14 year old sounds fair to me.

I'd say the real question is... was it consentual?

//Kiv

Consensual or not, in Wisconsin and presumably all of US until Im shown otherwise, if you are over 18 and jump on a minor and the parents of the minor want to press charges you are a hurting individual. You will go to trial.


Ibudin

I have 3 days to get on as many minors as I can =/

In NV 16 is the legal age of consent for heterosexual couples

I'd say the real question is... was it consentual?Actually, that's clearly NOT the question. Most states have decided that at the age of 16, sex can't be consentual. Even if you want to have sex, even if you instigate sex, the law sees you as a child - unaware and uninformed of the consequences of your decision and thus unqualified to give your consent.

It's why they call it "age of consent." At what age are you mature enough to give your consent? 16-18 in most of the US, and as low as 14 in Iowa (when married) or Missouri where if you are over 18 but under 21, the age of consent is 14, or if you are over 21 (in Missouri), you may not have sexual intercourse with anyone under 17.

www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm (http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm)

So, in short, no, if she wasn't of age, it wasn't consentual. Some of you may believe that a 16 year old can give their consent, some won't...

I lost my virginity at 17 shortly after highschool graduation to an "older woman" and then got myself a 16 year old girlfriend whom I slept with regularly. Since we were together after I turned 18, I was (in retrospect) regularly committing a felony in the state of Arizona. The current A.R.S says in pretty clear terms that it's 18 or nothing here - with under 15 being not the usual Sexual Misconduct, but Molestation (class 2 felony). [Of course, SMwaM is still a class-2 felony, so I guess it's all the same.]

Bowler come play!

In the eyes of the law, Palimax? I'd say you're right. However I don't abide by the laws of that particular state, nor of the US as a whole, and I'll stick to my guns on this one and say that as long as it isnt rape its morally correct conduct between the ages of 14 and 16. Consentual age in Sweden is 15.

//Kiv

Why oh why haven't they created those sensor rings like in demolition man.

Heh heh, I'd retrofit the "Solo" model into the rim of my favorite baseball cap and be happy all day.

Dear Kiv:

Two teenage minors having consensual sex between the ages of 14 and sixteen is one thing; neither possesses the maturity to be consciously and deliberately manipulating or taking advantage of the other person's naivete (and just try to stop high school kids from groping, anyway ;) ). On the other hand, an adult's involvement with young boys/girls of that age *is*, in all probability, affected in a very unhealthy way by the unequal power/knowledge in that situation. I've known several female friends and acquaintences who, when they were 14-15 years old, became involved with 'older men' of 21 or so. Three of them became pregnant (2 babies, one abortion), and all four of them had long-term heavy negative psychological consequences as a result of the involvement.

While there are a few young teens out there who possess the maturity to handle these situations, for the most part, grown men (and grown women) who go after minors (particularly below age 16), *know* they are going after 'easy prey', and exploit the power/knowledge advantage. It's something that, in my mind, teens *should* get legal protection from, and adults should get prosecuted for.

In Texas, we have a '2 year' age range in which teens can have consentual sex with adults and have it not be criminal. So an 18 year old can sleep consensually with a 16 year old, or a 19 year old with a 17 year old. Consentual sex between adults and minors down to age 14 is considered 'statutory rape', below age 14 it is 'indencency with a child', which is a far more serious offence and carries mandatory prison time, and registration on a sex offender's list.

Regards,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Autonomous Collective

hahaha, vane is on that server, that guy was in his guild? rofl

So you think that a 15 year old can not decide for herself if she wants to have sex or not?

Don't parents teach kids what's right and wrong and how to approach people who want to have sex together and to use a condom and etc etc ....

I know it's the law over there but still the US has the most teen pregnancies (so I read) in the western world. Is this because of the law or is this because their plain stupid?
How is sexual education handled over there? Is it handled at all on the schools for kids from I dunno 8 to 16? Do they get the education to understand the human bidy and what they will be going through when they "change".

These are all questions, no attacks and nothing I post is factual .. it's based on hearsay and if I have the wrong information I would gladly be corrected.

Is this because of the law or is this because their plain stupid?

It's because they are plain stupid.


Ibudin

We have, unfortunately, in this country some of the dumbest parents you could possible imagine. It's a generation of people who aren't content unless they're bitching about something.

Sex education beyond "Just don't do it" doesn't get a lot of support in the US, primarily due to vehement opposition from religious conservatives. Kids are stupid, yes, but they're often not given the opportunity to be smart.

Children aren't stupid, they are misinformed and uneducated about the consequences of sexual conduct. Its not the fault of the education system either.

Nope, its the stupid parents.

Ytrok, to answer the first part of your question, adolescents mature physically, psychologically, and socially, at wildly different rates. My sister became sexually active at fifteen (my parents had no idea that she was until she became hospitalized for pneumonia the following year and the medical staff 'squealed' on her that she was on the Pill) with no ill effects other than the predictable being 'totally in love' with the sixteen year old boy she was rolling around with until his complete lack of redeeming qualities became apparent even to her :) . On the other hand, I did not first have sex until just before my eighteenth birthday and was barely prepared for it then. *Some* fourteen and fifteen year olds are both properly educated, and psychologically ready to handle sex, but most are not. The statutory rape laws, at least in Texas, allow considerable leeway in prosecution given the circumstances of the event, and are generally only rigidly enforced if someone complains.

As far as the state of sex education in the U.S., I can only say that it varies *widely* from state to state, and in my mind, is inadequate almost everywhere. It's been a few years, but I went to secondary school in Northern California, which at the time had an extremely progressive sex ed program that nonetheless did not start until the *fifth* grade (see the first problem here? :) ). It was handled as a one week unit in the Health class, the students were separated by gender, and I don't know what the boys got, but our 'sex education' seemed to focus an awful lot on menstruation (many of the girls already were by then anyway), and a lot of very clinical animated films were shown detailing how people's bodies matured, the sex hormones, etc. Actual sexual conduct and its consequences, not to mention birth control, were not addressed at all. This during the 'sexual revolution' of the late '70s, when I knew 8th graders on the Pill!

Over the last 20 years in this country, the various factions have fought bitterly over what should be included in school curricula regarding sex education. Many folks here feel that this teaching should be done at home, and want the schools out of the business of what they see as 'legitimizing' sex, but my personal feeling is that if this were left to the parents, many children would get no help at all. My own parents gave us no education at home whatsoever, feeling that by signing the permission slip to allow my sister and I to take the sex ed unit in school (yes, it is optional) that they had done their duty by us.

Most sex ed programs that exist in the public schools today (with the exception of New York and a few of the New England states, and Oregon and parts of California) teach 'abstinence based' sexual education, when they do address the issue of sexual activity. Teachers have gotten fired for mentioning or demonstrating the proper use of birth control devices in the class room (with a test tube, ya pervs!). Many Americans have a great deal of difficulty separating issues of public health and hygiene from moral/religious issues and feel that to offer any useful birth control information, or to allow condom distribution in the schools, would be 'legitimizing' or encouraging sexual activity. Consequently, we have the highest rate of teen pregnancy in the western world :) . As a teacher, I feel that such information *can* be given out without 'encouraging' sexual activity, but there is no question that we currently do a very poor job of addressing the needs of young people in this country in this area, in terms of both biological and psychosocial education about sex and sexuality.

Regards,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Autonomous Collective

Thanks a lot for your post ... nice to read :)

In my country we get sex education at around 12, so we know what is what :)
We don't get soppy bees and flower stories either but we get the full works on what it is and what would be safe and what wouldn't and how you should safe that moment for the real one and such.

Also our parents (atleast mine) explained me all I had to know I think somewhere at 13 (but I already knew most by then).

I hope that people will understand that Sex and Hormones have no set age (well not really) and that they should educate the kids so they can prevent a lot more teen pregnancies.

Hmm.. here (in Sweden) I got to attend the first class of that sort at the age of 10, as I recall it dealt alot with menstruation then.. and some parts about the male organ too, heh. Was the school nurse that had the class, girls and boys separated. I remember that there was a bowl of condomes on the table and she informed us of the diffrent types of protection, how they worked and why they needed to be used.

Then there was a more thorough class when I was 14, was part of the plan for biology. Was a one month thing, went through everything, and I mean everything. For some parts girls and boys were separated. Whole thing ended with the girls and boys having to write down 2 questions about sex or whatever for the opposite sex. Which were then asked by the teacher and everyone had to try to answer atleast one question.

Last class was actually part of gym, was 16 to 19 then. Everyone knew everything then so it was mostly just alot of talk about protection, and again questions of the type that the last ended with. Was held twice a year through those last 3 years..

I'm guessing alot of the diffrenses between the countries depends on the level of religiousness or whatever.. Sweden being a rather pagan country that tries to be openminded does a pretty good job when it comes to teaching kids about sex imo.

//Izola

Sex Ed in my school was pretty dang thorough but did not really start until 7th grade. Being from a rural community, we had a lot of farm families and kids were pretty aware of what sex was and its consequences. I only know of one teen pregnancy amongst my peers and she was 18 and married at the time. Of course, there is no way of knowing how many more may have been terminated and kept quiet but I never had the impression my classmates were running around having a lot of unprotected sex. I know I wasn't so lucky, er, active.

First of all, I'm 20, 21 in Sept. and sad to say it, what Nydia described was pretty much the exact same thing I experienced in grade school as far as sex-ed. Ours was actually in 6th grade, however, and as I recall, they did separate us genderally (for the specifics at least - meaning menstruation and then for the boys it was erections and i think ejaculation or some such). I was the kid that sat in the back of the room working on next year's math while the other kids were drawing or eating shit they found on the floor though, so I don't know really how much sexx0rz was going on at that age. I can't imagine much, but I'm sure there was some.

I think that generationally, maturity levels on the average have dropped steadily in teenagers. They are more drastically dependent upon their parents, and due to child labor laws and the decline in agriculture, there are less responsibilities (non-trivial ones such as employment and societal contributions) that kids -- and lets not confuse the fact that at that age they are still children -- can get involved in.

In high school we had a mandatory health class, which taught us about STD's and whatnot, but never about sexual behavior. If not for the internet and the innate nature of the male and female bodies, lord knows if any of my classmates would ever have discovered what goes where. The main flaw in this health class was its overzealous desire to be progressive in some things, and retrogressive in others. Mind you this was in 1997. We were taught mandatory acceptance of homosexuality, bisexuality, etc.

To all those people out there who feel that right-wing conservatism hurts when its shoved down your throat, lemme tell ya -- left-wing liberalism is just as bad in similar fashion.

Its interesting to me that we get so flustered in the US about "pedophelia" and/or "statutory rape", when that is pretty much the method through which the western half of the union was explored and founded. People lived like 40 years. 14 years old was prime marrying age (this also lead to a higher stillbirth rate and maternal mortality etc, i know, but the point remains...)

Also, when you look at the world prospective, it becomes apparent that WE, these United States of America, are drastically different in our stance on this than other countries. We are a nation that came to be because of something we preach to hate, and we villainize our own citizens for something that many of our trade partners openly practice (some Euro countries, many Asian countries), and even though it is something we claim to despise, we still take their money no questions asked. That, my friends, is called hypocrisy.

I am a US citizen, but never in my life have I wanted less to be associated with this country. This is one of the reasons why.

As to the pwnage -- quite excellent that he was able to call him out on his BS, BUT without a full record of the proceedings and/or details behind the crime/infraction, its hard to say that the guy deserved it.

All this said -- pedophelia, lusting for "underaged" minors, well it turns my stomach. But! I am able to look at that sociologically and realize that it makes me sick not because it is a definite cut and dry good or evil, but because i have been socially programmed to believe this way.

Ok this is way too long already. Thanks for keeping this post somewhat intelligent 8) I tried to do the same....

Mary Kate and Ashley........../moan

Nice posts Nydia and Crocodyle.
Good reads!

Great reading .. thx Crocodile :)

5th grade for us.

The boys and girls were seperated. We were treated to a guy playing a guitar singing about male erections and wet dreams. I'm sure the girls got something equally retarded about menustration and the rest of it. Back then it was really hard not to laugh (laughing resulted in no recess!), but now I see a different reason to laugh. It didn't educate us in the slightest, just made a taboo topic slightly more taboo.

This wasn't all that long ago for me.. we had the first talk thingy that Izola talked about, at around age 10 or something i think. In 7th grade we started having the real sex ed, and apparently they didn't think we got the hint, cause i think like 50% of our biology classes between classes 7 and 9 were sex ed, however, I'm fairly sure not many of the girls were virgins anymore when we started in 7th grade, at age 12. Pretty much all of them had older boyfriends that gladly helped them with that. This in turn resulted in our sex ed being slightly more.. in depth. :p

After that and everything else going on in this town, my view on the whole thing is this; You can't have sex on your own (well... I don't call 'that' sex :lol ) and as long as it isn't rape, I don't really care how old the girl is. Not that I would have sex with a girl significantly younger than me.

In this town it's pretty common though, here's an example:
One of my friends who was.. 30 or so, and one of my classmates when i was around 15, were a couple for quite a number of years. And since the legal age for sex here is 15, it wasn't that big a deal to anyone. Her mother didn't even really care, and she wouldn't even let her 2 years younger brother hang out with me and my friends in fear that we would make him a drunkard or something :lol

What keeps comming back is that you seperate the boys and the girls ... why? It's these two that will have sex so why not just talk about it between eachother instead of seperating them?

Our talks centered around things like menustration and ejaculation. Not the interaction between male and female.

(Butthead voice) that is the greatest pwn i have ever seen.

Last class was actually part of gym, was 16 to 19 then

I thought you were going to tell us you had one great big fucking orgy!


Ibudin

I still disagree :)
Once you hit consentual age it's not rape no matter how you twist and turn it. So what if she's doing it with a forty-year old, it's her right. So what if he's doing it with a twenty year old, it's his right.

If people have a problem with that they should just "up" the consentual age to that of twenty or so.

//Kiv

Jerry Lee Lewis did it with a 13 year old ... Elvis too ... you still adore these "rapists" how you call em.

I thought you were going to tell us you had one great big fucking orgy!

Rofl, not even Sweden is *that* open minded I'm afraid =P

And Mungo /cackle =)

//Izola

you still adore these "rapists" how you call em.

Who are "you" refering to in your post Ytok? Laws were alot different then when those 2 clowns you listed had sex with what we consider minors these days.


Ibudin

Sex with 13 year olds was also illegal back then ... And still .. are we talking about what you call a rapist by law or by action? If a country would say 10 is old enough would you just say .. well it's fine by law so it must be fine?

And if you don't adore these people then I am clearly not talking about you ...

Id find it hard to believe anyone who reads this board adores those people lol...kind of a mute point then right?

Unless when you said "you"..actually ment the citizens of the country those 2 lived in heh? Ya I bet thats what you really ment;)


Ibudin

No offense but Elvis and JLL are adored all over the world .. don't credit yourself too much.

Elvis was a hero to most,But he never meant shit to me you see..Straight up racist that sucker was simple and plain
Mother fuck him and John Wayne.. (and Jerry Lee Lewis)

Sex is good.

What keeps comming back is that you seperate the boys and the girls ... why? It's these two that will have sex so why not just talk about it between eachother instead of seperating them?

probably because at this age alot of people are really shy and if there were persons of the opposite sex in the same room, they would not dare ask whatever they would want to.

and winterworg... you figured that out all by yourself? jk

I think having sex with a 17y old when your 18-20ys old is not bad.. I mean its illegal but it shouldn't be.. it should only be frowned upon if not liked. In US I think you can get married in some states at 17 with your parents consent I don't know how well it would work out.. but would that be rape if a 18yold and a 17yold got married and had sex? I generally consider a pedophile to have sex with children like from infants to 15 year old kids. 16+ is just rape. There are alot of sick people in this world though so watch out cause, /sigh just eww some things are too disgusting to describe.

God Help me. I agree with Taino. :P

That wasn't "owning" in any way, shape or form. It just made the guy who posted it look stupid and/or ignorant. Hopefully Rrail_Rrazorfists was just using that stuff as flaming, and didn't actually believe the crap he spewed.

Now, I'm not implying what this marc did is "right" in the right/wrong sense, I'm not getting into that. However, I'd like to see anyone tell a gal(or guy) who was actually molested or raped, that a 18 year old and 15 year old screwing because they're young and horny is anywhere near as "wrong".

The fact that people in both groups are classifed at the same level, and that so many people support it, just disgusts me. I could be wrong about this, as I don't know everything about the workings of sex offender laws, so please inform me if I am.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, but I'd wager that people of these ages having sex is nothing new, or beyond the norm.

And as for the sex education, well, I'll just give myself as an example. I'm 20, living in florida, and outside of a co-ed health class in 8th grade that grazed over the sex organs, I recieved no sex ed at school whatsoever. None.

See, now this is a good reason to hate america.

Am I going to get railed (and not in a good way... More the see-a-red-flash-from-across-the-screen-and-see-your-blood-fly kinda railed) if I think that sex should be saved until you are a little older? And for non-religious reasons even...I didn't know what the hell I wanted or all that was involved with the consequences of sex...until at age 20 (she was 19) her period was fucking 2 weeks late. Worst 2 weeks of my life. I didn't even love her (I thought I did at the time though). I don't believe you can truely "consentually" have sex until you're at least late teens/early 20s. At least in the fucked up US culture. >: Divorce solves everything!! >:

kincadia, you're entitled to your opinion, however we're sorta talking about age differences and at what age you should be legally allowed to have sex (and with what age groups). If you want to wait that's great, there's a lot of people that make that choice, but should you force someone to wait until they're post-teens?

I think I would've blown. Not as in... masturbation... but more in a green glowing mushroom cloud-visible-from-three-miles-away sorta way.

//Kiv

Like Kiv said, waiting is fine and all, I mean it is probably a better experience for those that do. However people don't mature at the same rate and those that get ready at a younger age should be allowed to try it out.

For me a big part of the problem was hearing all the girls in my class talking about it (someone ought to tell girls they really can't whisper, not too sure they even intend to tho :p ) and being lead into believing that most people had already had sex at the age of 14-15 or so.

The formula is...

"half your age + 7"

Know it.. live it... love it...

and being lead into believing that most people had already had sex at the age of 14-15 or so.

Hmm.. I dunno if I just had bad friends or something.. but I think everyone that I was close to around that age had "lost theirs" at 15.. Not saying it's normal.. and I guess most of my friends were kinda slutty.. heh

I dunno, guess it varies alot on country - what kind of friends you have and most of all how mature you yourself think you are.

As for age diffrense.. I can't say much about it after spending 9 years with someone 9 years older then me..

//Izola

I was sitting at a bar wih a friend one night shooting pool,when in walks these 2 chicks (HOT!)asking me if i could bring them home.

Well we all sat and drank and shot some pool till 3ish in the A.M.They were very nice girls and we had a great time.

Well when the time came,we all got in the car and we were on the way to bring them home when all of a sudden this new mustang pulls up and wants to drag race my friend.(he drove a 68 camaro at the time pretty kick ass car.)


Well we take off like bats outta hell,and before i could blink,i'm getting pulled over by the fuzz.


Well he gets us all out the car (all 4 of us),and proceeds to ask for everyones I.D.

I give him mine and my friend gives them his,when out of no where we see one of the officers take the girls way off to the back of the car and start talking to them.HMMM


One of the officers comes back THROWS me up against the car and handcuffs me(OMG WTF?!) and starts grilling me about the girls.

Asking me WHAT AM I DOING WITH A 13!!! YEAR OLD at 4 in the morning.I almost fainted.

I would bet 1,000,000 dollars that NO ONE could have ever figured these two girls were in 8th grade.I mean we met them IN A BAR!

Make a long story longer,don't condem someone till you know all the facts,if not for these two girls telling the cops nothing happened,that could be my picture you're looking at.

The formula is...

"half your age + 7"

Know it.. live it... love it...Thank god someone else knows the rule. I'm allowed to see people as young as 24.

I would bet 1,000,000 dollars that NO ONE could have ever figured these two girls were in 8th grade.I mean we met them IN A BAR!

Dude. Come on. 13.

Maybe you need some practice. Go to the mall. find a nice big one. Walk around, and look at the girls there. Think to yourself "No matter how old I think these girls are, they're all underage."

Maybe you need some practice. Go to the mall. find a nice big one. Walk around, and look at the girls there. Think to yourself "No matter how old I think these girls are, they're all underage.

HAHA,trust me bro,you would have NEVR guessed these chicks were under 20.


As stated above,they WALKED into a bar room with a bouncer checking ID's of anyone looking under 18.

No way in hell could anyone have ever guessed how old these 2 were.

hmmm, that rule, half your age +7, what if your age is... uneven(?) like 1, 3, 5, 7... ? rofl

hmmm, that rule, half your age +7, what if your age is... uneven(?) like 1, 3, 5, 7... ? rofl
Well, if your age is 1 or 3, I'm not sure that "Half your age plus seven" is something you can figure out on your own.

...but, last I checked, if you were, say, 21 (also an "uneven" *shudder* number), the answer would be 17 and a half.

17 and a half gets a "rofl" from you?

I live in Missouri, and I believe that the law is the person must be within 2 years. An 18 year old could have sex with a 16 year old, but not a 15 year old. Seems pretty fair to me.

'weiner... removificate that personal image spank you very much

www.ageofconsent.com

Half your age plus seven, eh? Never heard of it, but it doesn't sound like too bad of a rule of thumb ;) . Hmmm, that allows me down to, let's see, 27 these days? That seems to jibe with my cutoff for 'cradle-robbing', as it were, these days anyway... ;)

Regards,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Autonomous Collective

Ainwein, I enjoy the Equlibrium avatar as much as the next guy, but 220k?

Sorry, forgot to check the size. Done and done.

Hey, I'm not in charge...

Hey, I'm not in charge... ....yet?

Considering what I did to the last moderator here, I can't imagine I'm on the top prospects list for his replacement.