View Full Version : Putin claims North Pole's oil and resources
Esbat
06-29-2007, 10:54 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=464921&in_page_id=1811
An interesting spin on things is that Canada might be making the same sort of claim.
Kelraz Bladesinger
06-29-2007, 11:25 AM
I shot some PR material for some Oil & Gas Association the other day and was really surprised to hear that of the 60% of the oil we import, the most significant chunk comes from Canada first and then Mexico second and Saudi Arabia fell 3rd with the rest of the Middle East not even that close behind them. Canada laying claim to that portion we'd probably see a larger amount imported from Canada lowering prices potentially due to shorter shipping distances and increased supply.
Ibudin
06-29-2007, 11:53 AM
WTH!
Should be NewZealand's.
1895 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1895)
New Zealander Alexander von Tunzelmann (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_von_Tunzelmann) becomes the first person to set foot on Antarctica, at Cape Adare (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Adare)
Kelraz Bladesinger
06-29-2007, 11:57 AM
North Pole
Antartica
Let me find you a map :)
Filatal
06-29-2007, 12:17 PM
Quote:
Antartica Let me find you a dictionary :)
Ibudin
06-29-2007, 12:55 PM
Well that was dumb. That's what I get for posting while I should be doing something constructive!
lokase
06-29-2007, 12:55 PM
was really surprised to hear that of the 60% of the oil we import, the most significant chunk comes from Canada
The tar sands are in full swing. Its an economic boom but an environmental disaster. The mighty Fraser is slowing being dwindled down to a trickle.
In April 2007 our Natural Gas exports totaled to around 72% of your total Natural Gas imports:
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/ng/ng_move_impc_s1_m.htm
All of it via pipelines.
Approximately 1 billion worth of goods and services flow across our borders daily.
Cheers,
Kelraz Bladesinger
06-29-2007, 01:08 PM
Let me find you a dictionary :)
Oh snap. I actually thought I copied / pasted those too ...
Ibudin
06-29-2007, 04:52 PM
The tar sands are in full swing. Its an economic boom but an environmental disaster. The mighty Fraser is slowing being dwindled down to a trickle.
In April 2007 our Natural Gas exports totaled to around 72% of your total Natural Gas imports:
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/ng/ng_move_impc_s1_m.htm
All of it via pipelines.
Approximately 1 billion worth of goods and services flow across our borders daily.
Cheers,
I watched a piece on 60 minutes last year that stated the tar sands oil wasn't worth extracting until oil started to become so expensive per barrel that last couple years. Tar sands are actually great for US companys as well...Catapilar, Rockwell Automation, Bucyrus Internation...millions if not billions of dollars in technology/equipment sold to Canada.
Bylimet Spiritwalker
06-29-2007, 06:27 PM
Putin has already played the energy resource card just recently, threatening to shut off the pipeline flow. I don't think this should be dismissed out of hand; it would not surprise me to see a military base established in the near future by Russia within the contested area, specifically to force either a confrontation, capitulation, or a cooperatrive resolution on how to divvy up the resources. (I am sure Putin and his command staff have paid attention to what has been happening to our military via the Iraq fiasco, and most likely see us as less of a threat, along with the Brits.)
As has been stated, Putin is looking to shore up the sagging strength of Russia, and making it a premier player in the energy field would do much to raise the spirits of a people who have been slowly losing what little pride they may have had, due to a dreadful econmy and soaring unemployment.
He only has so many options left before his term as President expires, and this is not that surprising a move for a man like Putin who wants a legacy of making the country stronger and leaving it in better shape than that which he inherited.
Elemak the Enchanter
07-04-2007, 11:11 AM
Invasion of Moscow in 5...4...3...2...
At least I'll get to fight in a climate I'm used to, fuck this place and all it's sand and heat.
Thormir
07-04-2007, 11:52 AM
Give it a few more years, and you might end up cursing Alaska/Moscow for the same reasons. ;)
Haloface
07-10-2007, 03:01 PM
Update - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6287436.stm
- Maybe the equivalent to Russia's Vladivistok?
Gulor Gularin
07-11-2007, 11:39 AM
A much, much smaller version perhaps. Canada's military is relatively small.
If Canada "closes" the northwest passage by force, I think the US and Russia should "close" the Bering Strait to Canadian shipping in retaliation.
Nekko1
07-11-2007, 01:24 PM
"With a warming climate, the route may just become viable and lucrative."
" Natural resources including oil, gas and diamonds are thought to lurk - perhaps in abundance - under the Arctic ice. "
I knew the Canadians were behind global warming I bet they have WMD also.
Bylimet Spiritwalker
07-11-2007, 06:29 PM
"With a warming climate, the route may just become viable and lucrative."
" Natural resources including oil, gas and diamonds are thought to lurk - perhaps in abundance - under the Arctic ice. "
I knew the Canadians were behind global warming I bet they have WMD also.
Invade them, set up no fly zones. and establish a UN run Moosehead for food program. That'll teach 'em.
Haloface
08-11-2007, 04:25 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6941426.stm
- Is anyone else watching this with amusement? The Canadians, Russians (who actually planted a flag!) and now the Danes back up by the Swedes?
It's colonialism all over again!
Ibudin
08-11-2007, 09:27 AM
U.S. owns the moon and some day Mars.
Elemak the Enchanter
08-11-2007, 12:40 PM
"CHA"
+rep for whoever gets the reference
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