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Sanchek
08-13-2004, 04:39 PM
Who knows, maybe we can have a thread here about something other than politics.

This is a topic I never really followed or had bothered to understand, until just recently. I accidentally picked up my roommate's copy of Business 2.0 and ran across an article in it about the race to build a working quantum computer. It's pretty interesting stuff.

In a normal computer today, when you add more processing capability to it, you increase its computational power linearly. If you were to move from a 32 bit chip to a 64 bit chip, you've roughly doubled how much it can do in one clock cycle (of course it isn't that simple, but for the sake of discussion it's good enough). With a quantum computer, each bit (called a qubit) will exponentially increase the computer's power.

Even the first, fairly elementary, working quantum computers are expected to be literally billions of times more powerful than any supercomputer currently available. The practical applications of something like that are endless. Examples I've read about are fast and precise molecular reaction modeling for pharmaceuticals, weather forecasting that actually works, and obviously it would completely redefine the entire cryptology field since it could break any current encryption in seconds.

The article I read said that the leaders in the field currently are NEC, IBM, NIST, University of Kansas, and a fairly small startup company called D-Wave.

It all sounds awfully promising. Just about any field or industry you can think of could be transformed by that kind of computational power increase. Anyone here been actually keeping up with this stuff?

Osgiliath666
08-13-2004, 04:45 PM
Once micro chips move past the fields that silicon can handle we will really see some fast neat shit. When I was working for Atmel Corp making chips we were trying to get that fab to produce .25micron runners. I know p4's are either .18 or .13. I forget which. Pretty soon they will get so small evetyone will have to move to different substances like organics.

Korlis
08-13-2004, 07:08 PM
http://www.qubit.org/

http://www.cs.caltech.edu/~westside/quantum-intro.html

Some little more indpeth info

Filatal
08-13-2004, 08:12 PM
This is a very interesting field, and I don't pretend to understand all of it. At the moment, the biggest problems are decoherence and price.

Price problems are like having Nuclear Magnetic Resonance equipment on each machine ( you can't directly observe the qubit in order to read it, you use NMR techniques ) seems like it could prevent the entry into the personal/workstation computing world ( though I'm sure everyone wants a 7.0 Tesla superconducting magnet in their home ).

Not a whole lot of information, but a brief overview of what IBM has being doing: http://www.almaden.ibm.com/st/quantum_information/index.shtml

Decoherence is the natural, for lack of a better word, decay of the qubits.

Another page from Almaden about experiments to limit decoherence:
http://www.almaden.ibm.com/st/quantum_information/qcom/ion/

Ultra high vacuum and microKelvin tell me that its going to be a long time before these become mass produced, but they could very well replace current main frames and other types of super computers in the next 10 years or so.

Quantum computers pretty much seem to be what everyone is banking on taking us to the next level once we can't improve current processor technology, but nanotechology is the field that really excites me.

Fil

trimlock
08-13-2004, 11:34 PM
i'm just waiting to see physical dual cores make it to the main stream personally..


people are also talking about optical cpu's, the question comes up that they wouldn't be very practical concerning the heat they would put off (don't know too much about it)

seeing all the new nano tube technology and seeing how well its working with monitors makes me believe that soon companies like IBM will want to try and implement them into a processing unit, and keeping all prcessors in one type of fabrication process (one that uses nano tubes)