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Apocress
02-08-2004, 05:40 PM
Many of you who know me know that I am a girl that very much enjoys the fruits of good roleplay. I have been a roleplayer since day one of EQ and wish to continue doing it. I have been away from EQ for quite some time now and do wish to go get back into the fun of it all. Though as we all know, being a roleplayer is hard when you are not playing on the roleplay server. I have been ridiculed on a number of occasions for choosing to roleplay.

Here is what I would like to do and I would like your comments and/or suggestions on if something this would be a good idea, bad idea, no one will care, or just more reasons for someone to make fun of me because I enjoy roleplaying.

I wish to create a roleplay journal. What I mean by this is on a website post weekly stories that involve my character and her events that happened in game and turn it into a roleplay journal that I post on the net for people to read. Kind of like on-going novel. Again, I am roleplayer and I very much enjoy sharing it with others when others enjoy it as well. But, I don't want to create something that people think is dumb and corny and will only receive more ridicule for doing it.

So my question is this...

If I do this are there people interested in this? Will people care? Is it really worth my time? Will people read it? Will I get flamed for being an emotional roleplayer?

All these thoughts have come to mind when thinking about doing this. I just want to give myself more reason to play then to just kill stuff for xp/loot. Those who know me know that I am a casual player and care little for being uberisious. I just want to have fun and enjoy my friends and the socialization of others around me.

Your thoughts?

Karmon Shadowstalker
02-08-2004, 05:41 PM
As long as you don't post that crap here every week, I highly doubt anyone will mind.

Apocress
02-08-2004, 06:15 PM
You see, that is what I am talking about. Seems most people think that the roleplay that I like to do is as he put it, "Crap". So even if I post it in the roleplay forums, you think people here don't wanna see it?

Kein Bojangles
02-08-2004, 06:23 PM
If you put it in the roleplaying forums, then I suppose only the people who like roleplaying will see it. Why not?

Dartaignon
02-08-2004, 08:04 PM
I wanna cast magic missile!!!!

Apocress
02-08-2004, 08:33 PM
Are there any girls there?! :rollin :

mirdorr
02-08-2004, 10:15 PM
I enjoy good roleplaying stories.

Osgiliath666
02-08-2004, 10:41 PM
I like to role play escaped convict and the wardens wife... Is this the kind of stories we're talking about?

Carabella Valenteen
02-08-2004, 10:49 PM
I think it would be great to read some good writing in terms of roleplaying. The last story I recall there was posted by Ullrich, I think, and I enjoyed it very much. If you have the desire, go for it! I will read it.

Maybe I will submit some stories, too. :)

Binuvin
02-09-2004, 12:28 AM
Sadly even the Roleplaying Server isn't Roleplay anymore. Now it's just a spot for Stormhammer peeps to make tons of plat selling elemental gear (when you see a lvl 9 Paladin in full elemental gear, yeah it'd piss you off).

If you can do it and get your group going, I applaud you. You have quite a daunting task ahead of you.

MarzMartini
02-09-2004, 12:37 AM
Lightning Bolt!!1

Shewdogg
02-09-2004, 01:34 AM
Please post your stories here so I can ridicule and laugh despite the number of warnings I get from Hubbe and Zehn.

Buyza
02-09-2004, 02:13 AM
man I wish I got into that selling elemental gear earlier on.

Maniacles
02-09-2004, 02:59 AM
Role playing died at the birth of this server. People didn't move here to roleplay. They moved here to play in a "less structured environment", aka, move on the mob when you got sufficient force to kill it.

Note that that has zero to do with roleplay. The extent of roleplay to be expected here is limited to game based racial hatred that one can't get away with in real life. ("damned gnomes always getting underfoot"). The reason racial hatred is ok on eq is that in eq, you DID choose which race you were born as...;)

Greystone Thorngage
02-09-2004, 04:05 AM
post your stories and ignore the morons who like to critisize. (speaking from experience). The people that like them will appreciate them and let you know they do, just focus on them.

Gulor Gularin
02-09-2004, 05:40 AM
More importantly, if you enjoy writing the stories and it makes your character become more alive for you, do it.

I've played in a number of face to face games where writing a character journal was encouraged as a way to get more out of your character. I don't see why that would not apply to EQ as well. Try it.

Akom of Cazic Thule
02-09-2004, 05:46 AM
What ever happened to the Story Thread some of us had a long time ago? Bunch of us created a story, one post at a time... was kinda neet, but got out of hand and we gave up on it.

Dennod
02-09-2004, 03:49 PM
If you like to roleplay and want to post, go ahead and do it. I am sure that you will get some people that will respond to your posts.

For those that post shit about your subject, ignore them they are idiots, who the hell are they anyway? Don't let them intimidate you.

I will also bet that if there is enough interest in it, people that had zero interest in it will start to get more involved with it.

Gnore 65 Bard

Osgiliath666
02-09-2004, 05:14 PM
Why not force the admin/mod freaks to open up a roleplay/stories section on the a-ro boards?

trimlock
02-09-2004, 05:16 PM
pub142.ezboard.com/fayonaerofrm10 (http://pub142.ezboard.com/fayonaerofrm10)

Santerre
02-09-2004, 05:16 PM
It would be interesting to see if you can get Roleplaying to work in EQ. To me, having instant global private and public communications completely destroys the ability to roleplay, as does the concept of being "online" and "offline". Not to mention the stupid names people give to Everquest characters.

ThePerfectFlaw
02-09-2004, 07:22 PM
<a href="http://perfectflaw.ath.cx/images/naughty.gif" target="_new">Roleplay!</a>

Apocress
02-09-2004, 08:54 PM
This saddens me it really does. It seems that the people who truly try to play a MMO"RPG" are the ones that are made fun of or are taken the wrong way. Just because one has a good imagination or like to delve into the role of their character does NOT make that person less then any other. In my humble opinion I very much enjoy the company of good mature roleplayer much more then I would the typical EQ garbage the troll around. Most of the time a name says it all. I am more likely to ignore a "Rygor Humpsyourleg" or a "Darian Iamsmarterthenyou" then someone with a well though out in character name. People with dumb names annoy me. I mean most of the time you can tell the maturity of someone simply by their name.

And roleplay does NOT mean cybersex! Get a clue.

I am not saying I am going to run around saying "Where are thout my knight in shining armor!?" I simply take into consideration what I say through my character can be translated out her mouth as to how my character would say it in her tongue and accent. I don't even like to say Nay. A no is just fine. I just like to get involved with my character. It does mean much more then just gaining levels and loot day after day. To me it makes playing even that much more enjoyable. Why is that looked so down upon?

To all you who thing negatively of such I will quote one of my more favorite lines...

"...I fart in your general direction! Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"

mirdorr
02-09-2004, 09:38 PM
Then again, why let the idiots get to you? I say post away. Recently, I've been reading a couple of websites where people posted some roleplaying fiction, and I enjoyed it.

There's a roleplaying area on this board. There's no reason to let people here (often people who don't play EQ anymore) drag you down.

ThePerfectFlaw
02-09-2004, 09:51 PM
Roleplay is all well and good from time to time. But there's a limit on where and how it should really come into play and be accepted.

Explanation.

I <a href="http://perfectflaw.ath.cx/stories.html" target="_new">write</a>. Some people have even read what I've <a href="http://perfectflaw.ath.cx/stories.html" target="_new">written</a>. I make it available to people and if they want to do something about it, it's all well and good. I've had people send me short stories about their characters and I admit, I have fun reading some of them. Some people have put alot of thought into the backgrounds of their characters, beyond the usual, "Oh he was a happy elf then his parents died and he wanted to be an adventurer to meet people and make money."

That screenshot I posted was in response to someone who went off on a friend of mine for not talking roleplayishly when using shout. As if it was some criminal offense to not say 'thee' and 'thy' when using the shout channel. So I went vigilante.

Keep in mind when you're boldly holding off the legions of darkness so that your fellow adventurers can escape the battle safely that to some of us EQ is a game much like any other. You may be playing interactive DnD but we're playing Counter-Strike with spells.

Here's some advice.

1) <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I wish to create a roleplay journal.<hr></blockquote>

Livejournals are lame enough and anybody who has one should be shot, repeaidly, in the face with a gun that fires gerbils, sporks and patriot missles.

The only thing I want to read less about then the depressing life of an angsty teenage girl is the depressing life of a fake angsty teenage gnome. Unless it's skatergnome because he's funny.

2) <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I don't want to create something that people think is dumb and corny and will only receive more ridicule for doing it.<hr></blockquote>

If you're that worried about it, and it's happened in the past then you're either appealing to the wrong crowd or you just plain suck. I've posted roleplays before and for the most part I've gotten nothing but compliments in return. Normally, the people that don't roleplay don't give enough of a shit to read it in the first place, or even comment.

3) <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>If I do this are there people interested in this? Will people care? Is it really worth my time? Will people read it? Will I get flamed for being an emotional roleplayer? <hr></blockquote>

Who cares? I wrote my shit and then put it out there. Write for yourself, not to appease others. It's as simple as that. There will be some people who will read it reguardless simply because they think you're a woman and complimenting you will score them cyber, then there's people like me who will read it if it's good or mock you if it sucks.

4) <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I just want to give myself more reason to play then to just kill stuff for xp/loot. <hr></blockquote>

I've been a part of High End guilds for the past 3 years or so. Loot has little to do with it. Saying that uber guilds are all about loot and have no time for socializing is probably the most ignorant statement you can make in EQ. Prepared to be looked down upon if you try to make that assessment.

Karmon Shadowstalker
02-09-2004, 10:55 PM
Everquest is not a f(ornicating) RPG. It wasn't designed to be. It was designed to make more money than a true online RPG ever could. Why? Because RPGs are about rules, about restricting your ability to do certain things - this forces you to stay "in character". EQ doesn't. Well, for the most part.

But don't make me read about exploring new zones or how you verily triumphed over the foul villaines that inhabit Lower Guk. I wanna f(reaking) read about how FD is cheating VA, how RIP is c(amaro)blocking FD out of elementals, how SOT is fucking with RIP, and so on.

So, in conclusion, people will not like you, because generally roleplayers are annoying, in the same way hysterically homosexual people and snooty Frenchmen are. That's why I said "As long as you don't rub that crap in our face". Wanna post in the RPG forum? Go nuts. Just don't mix it in with our daily drama.

Thormir
02-09-2004, 11:27 PM
Yes, remember Apocress, Karmon is tied to his computer chair and forced by men in white coats to read every thread posted to these boards. So do be considerate of his need for drama wherever you print your tales. And, for his sake, keep the syllables to the fewest.

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If you fear being ridiculed by a gaggle of simpletons whose imagination is limited to flames involving genitalia and the family dog, posting even in the RPG forum may not be the thing for you. But if you feel the writer's desire to express yourself, then just post what you like as best you can. Chances are, those you'd worry about won't even enter that forum anyway.

Karmon Shadowstalker
02-09-2004, 11:42 PM
Sod off.

No, I'm not being forced to read it. Do you complain when you get spam in your email? No one's forcing you to read it. Do you bitch and moan when people post links to PA-type sites? No one forces you to read them, Mandari. Do you hate commercials? No one forces you to watch them.

Keep it in the RPG section, fine, go nuts. Or post on your own website. Like I said.

You all seem to think I oppose this religiously. No. I just want roleplaying to be kept where it belongs - in the hands of level 30s and 40s everywhere. Just kidding. Chuck that mess in the RPG forum, and I don't think anyone cares.

Just, please, keep it out of general and NAG. Those are our forums. =/

Cloudwalker21
02-10-2004, 12:59 AM
our forums? so there is a mafia controlling the general and NAG boards now? somehow I am not surprised. :p

Still, Apo if you want to roleplay feel free. I'd even join in if I could just find enough time to.

Oh yeah, just a question beo.

If your not forced to read this thread, why are you reading it? Because you chose to and are looking to push your own ideas about something onto another who has a different opinion about the subject?

Buyza
02-10-2004, 01:07 AM
I think you should mkae a livejournal and write about how it saddens you people in EQ do not roleplay enough. Now I understand to some people it may be fun, but to others they have passed the age of 7.

Karmon Shadowstalker
02-10-2004, 01:28 AM
If I do this are there people interested in this? Will people care? Is it really worth my time? Will people read it? Will I get flamed for being an emotional roleplayer?

Your thoughts?

Right there is why I posted. You all seem to be missing my point.

Roleplaying is fine, as long as you stick it in the right forum. Jesus Christ. I've been saying this since like my first post.

Dennod
02-10-2004, 01:36 PM
Beowuulf,

Again, if you don't like the subject line of a thread, don't open it up. It is that plain and simple. Complaining about them posting does what? Seriosly?

If someone wants to put in Roleplay threads let them. If there is interest people will write in them. If their is no interest then the writings will stop.

"Roleplaying is fine, as long as you stick it in the right forum" What Forum is the right Forum?

Gnore 65 Bard

Karmon Shadowstalker
02-10-2004, 01:49 PM
Roleplaying & GM Events

THAT one is the right forum.

ThePerfectFlaw
02-10-2004, 04:16 PM
If you don't like what Beo is posting, then don't read it. Asshat.

Livtinth
02-10-2004, 05:12 PM
Seems most people think that the roleplay that I like to do is as he put it, "Crap".

Not the roleplay is crappy, but you are.

Apocress
02-10-2004, 05:44 PM
So I am crap for asking simple questions?

F**k you and F**k these forums. They have gone to hell since I last used them. Cya.

Briaroak
02-10-2004, 05:46 PM
I will agree with Karmon that a thread of a certain topic should go on a certain forum, and a Roleplaying storyline would best go under the “Roleplaying, etc.” forum. The “General” forum is good for … general EQ discussion. Posting a roleplaying thread in “NAG” will only draw agro.

Oh, to that point, Karmon, I believe your language belongs in NAG, not General. Follow your own suggestions, please. If you want to read only about who is messing over who else – stay in NAG. “General” *IS* about describing new zones, asking questions about game play, etc. NAG is the forum for whining, complaining, and the soap-opera drama. Oh yes, I enjoy all that as well. But there’s a place for everything. :)

Apocress, posting any story is opening yourself to both criticism and compliment. Make the best of both, and ignore those with dull minds and little or no imagination.

As stated on the SOE Everquest websites, Everquest is a MMORPG – Massively Multi-user Online Role Playing Game. It is a Fantasy world where we can immerse ourselves to varying degrees and (hopefully) have a good time. A role-playing game isn’t all about restricting what you can do. In D&D and Everquest (and Counterstrike), there are rules, but those rules are a framework - very flexible to enable multiple styles of gameplay.

Some prefer to play EQ like “Counterstrike with spells” (nice comparison, btw – Counterstrike being ALSO a MMORPG, just Modern/Military genre, not Fantasy). Some go to the other extreme (“Never shall I ally with mongrel Half-elves!”). Both are right, because that’s the way they choose to play it. I tend to go in the middle of the ground – depending on how I’m feeling on a given day and time.

What REALLY ticks me off is when some person DEMANDS that I play the way THEY want me to play. Take a flying leap into the Hole, please, and give my best to Master Yael.

Shewdogg
02-10-2004, 05:52 PM
Not the roleplay is crappy, but you are.

LOLOLOLOL!!!!! Mirran! I miss U.

Apocress
02-10-2004, 05:55 PM
I will agree with Karmon that a thread of a certain topic should go on a certain forum, and a Roleplaying storyline would best go under the “Roleplaying, etc.” forum. The “General” forum is good for … general EQ discussion. Posting a roleplaying thread in “NAG” will only draw agro.

All I did was post a question about if I should or not. Some are acting like I already did it. I posting a general question in the general forum. I saw the Roleplay forum but I think it is (or should) be for the posters that are posting "in character". My post was a general question nothing more. And for this I get flack. Yep. I remember why I left EQ the last time. Seems the jerks are still around.

Livtinth
02-10-2004, 05:56 PM
Shew! Know what "it" is now? ;)

ThePerfectFlaw
02-10-2004, 06:36 PM
Or maybe you asked for our opinions and you didn't like what they were, so now you're calling us jackasses simply because you don't like the response.

If you can't handle negative feedback, then don't ask for opinions.

Apocress
02-10-2004, 06:49 PM
Or maybe you asked for our opinions and you didn't like what they were, so now you're calling us jackasses simply because you don't like the response.

No, that is not it all all. If you really take a look into the replies that I have got and the level of maturity in some of the posts along with the amount of insults I have got just for simply bringing up this topic is why I am annoyed, not at the type of opinions I have got. To be honest, I expected it to be laughed at but not insulted for asking simple questions.

Belvo
02-10-2004, 07:35 PM
Apocress,

Come play on FV. Roleplaying is still alive there. But, sadly there are a lot of jokers there too.

If you want to stay here then do so. And write your journal. If it makes you have fun then go for it. Some folks don't know how to give an opinion or answer without it being an attack. Good luck.

ThePerfectFlaw
02-10-2004, 10:16 PM
Who flamed you? I'm looking at these posts and most people are mocking roleplaying, that's it. You got your opinion and you don't like it so now you're projecting our opinions of roleplay onto yourself, trying to play the victim. Maybe it's good that you quit, because if the opinions of a few guys matter that much to you that you'll throw a hissy fit, you should probably lock yourself in a safe and never go outside because god forbid someone tells you they don't like red hair and you go slit your wrists because of it.

Carabella Valenteen
02-10-2004, 10:28 PM
Zehn/Vhex has a good point. You are going to face a lot of ridicule, but get a lot of praise too (assuming things are written well). You have to learn to have thick skin.

Actually, some of the criticism, although made to hurt feelings and make the poster look funny, can actually contain a grain of truth and make you a better writer, if you can keep from feeling too hurt to read it. Also, some people are going to bitch because well.. they can. No matter how well you write.

Rather than post it here, you might do better to host it on your own site, and put a link here for others to read. That way you maintain control over your own material, and only people that are curious will go to take a look.

I suppose I am talking more 'stories' than true roleplaying. If you want to roleplay with someone, that is a different thing, and something I have not really seen on any eq server. I roleplay sometimes, (especially if I play my DE shadow knight -- something about her just BEGS me to be evil ha!) but more often than not, am there to just enjoy the game and good friends.

If you want to write a story about your character though, I would love to read it. I am always ready to be entertained by a good story.

JazyaVechette
02-11-2004, 12:23 AM
Cheeka,
If I do this are there people interested in this? Will people care? Is it really worth my time? Will people read it? Will I get flamed for being an emotional roleplayer?Do it. Do it for yourself. To hell with what anyone else thinks.
I just want to give myself more reason to play then to just kill stuff for xp/loot.It aint about exp/loot vs RP, that dynamic is for single player games. There is a LOT more to EQ than that. Here's the reasons that make me stick around:
Friends
"Family"
Player interaction
Adrenaline
Chat
Fun!
Community

Shewdogg
02-11-2004, 12:56 AM
Indeed I do Mirran! I'm 21 now, hurray for bars and middle aged women that can't dance but still try.

Briaroak
02-11-2004, 07:49 PM
I hope you didn't misunderstand my opening paragraph, Apocress. Your initial question re: Roleplaying properly belongs in the General form because it *IS* a question. I wasn't meaning to indicate your question belonged in any other forum.

However, Roleplaying threads themselves should go in the Roleplaying forum - if for no reason than to make it easier for those who enjoy reading and/or responding to such threads to locate them.

As others have stated, post stories for your own satisfaction, take the good from any criticisms or compliments, and ignore the trash.

Hang in there. :)

Dennod
02-11-2004, 11:41 PM
Vhen,

"If you don't like what Beo is posting, then don't read it." You are 100% right on this dealing with what I wrote.

I am a little lost on the "Asshat" comment. What is an Asshat? Is that some type of ebonics talk?

Gnore 65 Bard

Razco Forte
02-16-2004, 11:01 AM
**hug Apocress**

You may not remember me, but i miss you cheeka's ! Drop me a line in game sometime. I may write up a little something for roleplaying purposes.





Razco Forte
Prophet of Prism

Baltyn
02-16-2004, 02:49 PM
Dont trust Razco hell have you rping a wallet or something

Edeina
02-16-2004, 05:50 PM
I find the crude attitudes of some people here to be quite unbecoming.

Anyway.
Posting roleplaying stories in the roleplaying forum of this board is a good idea. It's why that forum was created in the first place.

Personally I'm more interested in ingame roleplaying. My experience is that noone have the endurance to roleplay all the time. But when you roleplay well yourself, there will often be some people tagging along. This goes both for newbies and for ubers, and both for people you have just met and for people you hunt with regulary.

Here's three few things that worked well for me, listed from the most ambitious (and thus most fun but also most time&energy-consuming) to the easiest.

*Ingame relationship soap opera that focus on ingame context. For example, Edeina's girlfriend was a Darkelf Shadowknight. We would complain about how the forces of Felwithe was hunting her and the forces of Neriak was hunting me. Often other players joined in. Paladins trying to "save" me from her, and necromancers trying to "save" her from me - figuring that I had probably bewitched her in some horrible way, and that her soul was their property anyway.

*Giving roleplaying flavour to what you are doing anyway. Make sure you have a ingame mission and that that is the real reason for your hunting. This is often quite simple, since many areas are divided into factions. For example, if you hunt giants in Velious, you are really trying to save the dwarves and the garden of Tunare. And don't forget to accuse the foul Giants of their crimes, so they know why you kill them.

*Preach. Surely your religion and hometown is better then all others! When I play my Ogre Shaman, I often try to convert people to the ways of Rallos Zek. However, DON'T let your character be a sociopath about it. One guy I used to play with had the idea that the character of a "real roleplayer" should care ONLY about his God. Bleah.

Good luck.

moklianne
02-16-2004, 09:33 PM
I would enjoy reading them, Apocress.

Baltyn
02-17-2004, 02:37 PM
Like a few of the others have said, do not worry about what other say or think. Do it for yourself if nothing else. If you post in rp section im sure there will be others that will join in. I know 2 people that actually rp on a reg server. 1 on CT and 1 here on AR and they will not come OOC for anything. And trying to decipher what Whakk on CT is saying can be painful at time but he is a riot. I also know 1 or 2 people getting married in game, if that isnt rping then what is?