The film evidently blames the Clinton Admin for 9/11 while the Bush admin gets off scott-free. Has anyone posting here been able to see an advanced copy?

Yeah, scott free.
Being the sitting President when the greatest attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor took place sure does make for some sleepless nights, I'd bet.
Oh, wait, fairness wasn't the point of your post, was it?
8 years > 8 months

Scott free?? everything I have read about it, even the NYT's say it is evenly balanced on the blame game. If anything that should be discussed is the outcry from the Democrats, and once again the hipocracy displayed by some of them.. mainly John Dingle.. who is leading the charge to get it cancelled.. This is after this same individual blasted CBS for cancelling the Reagan documentary. Where was the Democratic outrage about Mr Moore's "factual" documentary on 9/11?

Strawmen, bleating, whatever the fuck you want to say... this just shows the hipocracy.. I hope it does get cancelled... more fuel...

ABC Drama Marks 50th Anniversary of 9/11

By Scott Ott, Editor-in-Chief, ScrappleFace.com
News Fairly Unbalanced. We Report. You Decipher.

(2051-09-11) — As part of the nation’s month-long celebration of the 50th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, ABC television tonight will show an educational drama called ‘The Path from 9/11‘.
The docudrama recounts the initial resistance to global jihad mounted by the infidels of the former United States of America in the immediate aftermath of the great martyrdom operation.

But then the tide turns in favor of the budding Islamic caliphate (Allah be praised!). As memories of the 2001 attacks fade, world opinion turns against the Great Satan. Then the Great Satan turns on itself, consumed from within by a toxic combination of political ambition and cowardice masquerading as tolerance.

The Path from 9/11: A Triumph of the Will illustrates the righteousness of Usama Bin Laden’s cause, and how his unswerving commitment to jihad ensured the establishment of our glorious global Caliphate, upon which today the sun never sets.

The program begins tonight at 7 p.m., right after Chief Justice al-Zawahiri leads Sunset Prayer Live from the National Mosque and just before a very special episode of American Idol.

The Path from 9/11, includes a scholastic study guide for boys, and is required viewing for all subjects of the Islamic Republic of America.

ABC chooses censorship of free speech.



http://reuters.myway.com/article/20060908/2006-09-08T003500Z_01_N07260695_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-SEPT11-DEMOCRATS-FILM-DC.html

I disagree with the canceling if it's just because it's critical of Clinton. But if you're niave to think the roots of this only go back as far as Clinton, your an idiot. US policy for many years has got us here as well as a disfunctional radical belief in a Islam and medieval tyrannical mid-east leadership. It's a complex and long winding road to where we are currently.

Wanted to say more, but I think I'll go throw up now. :'/

Peace out.

ABC chooses censorship of free speech.



http://reuters.myway.com/article/20060908/2006-09-08T003500Z_01_N07260695_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-SEPT11-DEMOCRATS-FILM-DC.htmlUnless I'm missing something, that isn't the censorship of free speech. ABC is a business, and if something threatens their bottom line (or corporate standards, if you follow the party line), they're well within their rights to cancel it. If it was the urging of the government, but no actual law or legal action, it's still not the supression of free speech.

Knowing your usual posts, I'm probably jumping the gun on what you actually meant, but I don't like to see comments like that slide by.

Violating free speech would be if the government forced them to cancel it. Civil rights being what they are these days, this is an important distiction.

I dunno. Seems pretty heavy handed by senate dems and past cabinet level official to put the pressure to ABC like that. Even after the producer was like WTF! Seems kinda censorshippy to me... censorshippy is you new word of the day by the way. And yes I realize islamofacists have been around for a for a lot longer then this typical round of partisen polotics by both sides.

Actually, I heard another point of view expressed today while watching Fox news. Clinton was so stressed and preoccupied by the Impeachment proceedings he was unable to devote sufficient attention to Bin laden, in the opinion of one of the talking heads.

Would that mean that Henry Hyde, and Newt Gingrich, and Kenneth Starr were actually more responsible for 9/11 than any of our Presidents?

Actually back in the '90s Clinton and his administration were about the only people in government who had any concerns about BinLaden, the republicans who are so concerned now after he attacked were the ones most concerned with Clintons blow job.

Fock that Rover , ya partisian blind sob, Clinton had the chance to pull the trigger on bin Laden and didn't. Don't give me that sappy bs that Clinton was the "only one that cared" bs.

Both sides screwed the pooch and both sides deserve the heat. Whining like that doesn't make Clinton "I'm the US president and I'm going to cheat on my wife with a roly poly gal" a good guy....jesus...

If yer President at least go for the hot ones!! ;P

Fandros

Two Words:

Tora Bora.

Nuff said.

I recall a bunch of conservatives yelling "Wag the Dog" when Clinton launched cruise missiles into Afghanistan. Say what you want, but Clinton was going after Bin Laden. Criticize them for missing him, but how someone with even an ounce of sense can say they "didn't pull the trigger" is outstanding. They pulled the trigger and every right wing pundit criticized them for it.

I think most of this obfuscation you see from the political right about Clinton dropping the ball is because they don't want anyone to remember that while they were spending millions to investigate Lewinsky and tie up government, the terrorists were plotting.

Fil

I recall a bunch of conservatives yelling "Wag the Dog" when Clinton launched cruise missiles into Afghanistan. Say what you want, but Clinton was going after Bin Laden. Criticize them for missing him, but how someone with even an ounce of sense can say they "didn't pull the trigger" is outstanding. They pulled the trigger and every right wing pundit criticized them for it.

I think most of this obfuscation you see from the political right about Clinton dropping the ball is because they don't want anyone to remember that while they were spending millions to investigate Lewinsky and tie up government, the terrorists were plotting.

Fil

SCORE (1) for hitting that nail directly on the head!!!!

I recall a bunch of conservatives yelling "Wag the Dog" when Clinton launched cruise missiles into Afghanistan.

Please, a bunch of the far-right Republicans should not tarnish the average conservatives any more than the far-left Michael Moore types should tarnish the average liberals.

Carry on. ;)

Whining like that doesn't make Clinton "I'm the US president and I'm going to cheat on my wife with a roly poly gal" a good guy....jesus...

If yer President at least go for the hot ones!! ;P
Hey now, them "roly poly gals" tend to give great head. Dont be hatin'.

Fat chicks try harder....

Gymnasts are the most fun.

So, Clinton getting a blowjob wasn't the reason the why he couldn't devote proper attention to Osama bin Laden, it was that outcry that did it.
Doesn't anyone realize that if the man had just kept his willie in his pants, there wouldn't have been a problem? Can't have an investigation into something that doesn't exist...
Regardless, Osama used this particular incident in a speech to justify why America was so corrupt. In his opinion, Clinton didn't get punished enough.
While I think the Rupublicans overreacted trying to find anything to discredit Clinton over, if the man would have had a little self control, his warnings about OBL might have been taken a little more seriously, and not a "wag the dog" situation.

You got to give it to Clinton, though, he got a Jewish girl to eat pork....

Please keep in mind the Republican investigation into Clinton was initially to find some illegal activity in the Whitewater land deal he and Hillary were involved with, and then moved to whatever new subject was tossed out just to keep it going, until the investigation was able to use an illegally obtained sound recording of a conversation between the mistress and a confidante.

100 million+ spent to uncover the president cheated on his wife.

But a "bravo juliet" isn't cheating, unless you define what the meaning of the word "is" is.

Just to put my own paticular spin on what Byl said

Can't have an investigation into something that doesn't exist...

You do realize that the "investigation" of a BJ that occurred around 1996* began in 1993?

And, just so you know that I noticed the small turn of phrase you attempted to throw into your post, Sixee.
wasn't the reason the why he couldn't devote proper attention to Osama bin Laden

I believe the point I made is that launching cruise missles at someone is generally regarded as "devoting proper attention" ( its more attention than I want! ). It was the rest of us that were not devoting proper attention. This includes the current administration, that was so fervent about abandoning Clinton era foreign policy ( engagement with North Korea, active role in Palestinian statehood ) that they sidetracked hunting OBL.

Fil

*disclaimer: I know lots of historical facts, however, this is not one I have bothered committing to memory, so +/- a year.

So, Clinton getting a blowjob wasn't the reason the why he couldn't devote proper attention to Osama bin Laden, it was that outcry that did it.
Doesn't anyone realize that if the man had just kept his willie in his pants, there wouldn't have been a problem? Can't have an investigation into something that doesn't exist...
Regardless, Osama used this particular incident in a speech to justify why America was so corrupt. In his opinion, Clinton didn't get punished enough.
While I think the Rupublicans overreacted trying to find anything to discredit Clinton over, if the man would have had a little self control, his warnings about OBL might have been taken a little more seriously, and not a "wag the dog" situation.

You got to give it to Clinton, though, he got a Jewish girl to eat pork....

It didn't matter whether Clinton kept his willie in his pants or not, there were people that were going to get something on him regardless of what it was, thats why they settled on the Lewinski thing...its all they could get.

So Osama used the Lewinsky incident in a speech, thats why we were attacked? It was over a blow job? I would say that maybe Osama should try getting a blowjob and he won't be so uptight.

But seriously, to lay any blame on Clinton for getting a BJ from Monica Lewinsky as a reason why terrorists attack us is REALLY REALLY reaching.

I seem to remember OBL stating it was the sight of US forces in Saudia Arabia (the muslim holyland ya know) that steeled his resolve to attack us directly.

Hitler already!

It didn't matter whether Clinton kept his willie in his pants or not, there were people that were going to get something on him regardless of what it was, thats why they settled on the Lewinski thing...its all they could get.

So Osama used the Lewinsky incident in a speech, thats why we were attacked? It was over a blow job? I would say that maybe Osama should try getting a blowjob and he won't be so uptight.

But seriously, to lay any blame on Clinton for getting a BJ from Monica Lewinsky as a reason why terrorists attack us is REALLY REALLY reaching.

It wasn't the blowjob, it was how the punishment, or lack thereof, that justified to Osama that the United States was "corrupt."

Who can forget your President Clinton's immoral acts committed in the official Oval office? After that you did not even bring him to account, other than that he 'made a mistake', after which everything passed with no punishment.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/worldview/story/0,11581,845725,00.html

Regardless, it's a small part of a larger laundry list of justification that Osama used.
And for the record, I think the Republicans over did it with the investigation.
I also thing Clinton could have done a lot more to get Osama if he were serious about it. Cruise missles are good against buildings, and infrastructure, but lousy against people, unless you know right where they are.
He could have easily authorized Special Forces to go in, and either capture, or "sanction" Bin Laden.

This includes the current administration, that was so fervent about abandoning Clinton era foreign policy ( engagement with North Korea, active role in Palestinian statehood ) that they sidetracked hunting OBL.




You are right here... hell, the solution for Iran should be for us to give them the nuclear reactor... it worked for Clinton and NK.. right?