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broneb
10-02-2003, 03:00 AM
Rush Limbaugh is a racist moron. I love his quotes about Donovan McNabb. It shows how stupid he is. It also says alot about his redneck, white trash listeners. Here is a link for a full story:

sports.espn.go.com/nfl/ne...id=1627991 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1627991)

Watch the video too.

sontos2244
10-02-2003, 03:23 AM
Ironic that you hate him for being racist when you go around calling people rednecks.

Btw is that a picture of yourself in your sig?

MarzMartini
10-02-2003, 03:24 AM
Yea he's a fat jackass. (Rush)

I just love how the clowns come rushing in though, Al Sharpton, Howard Dean, the president of the NAACP.

Darus Grey
10-02-2003, 03:43 AM
I dont see how the comment was racist.


Hello Over-reaction.

Slant Earthshaker
10-02-2003, 03:49 AM
Ok yeah Rush Limbaugh is a fucking retard... But I mean come on, because he voices an opinion and says the word 'black' hes automatically a racist? Pussy liberal fucktards will jump on any little thing if its not 100% P.C. At least take both sides and crucify DMX or... I dunno Ruff Ryders or whoever the fuck is hot this week in rap.. for sayin kill whitey.

Its called having your own opinion? Try it sometime.

Master Damoiel Mindbend
Enchanter of the 60th Season

MarzMartini
10-02-2003, 03:51 AM
Pussy liberal fucktards will jump on any little thing if its not 100% P.C.

Bingo.

mirdorr
10-02-2003, 04:54 AM
BTW, he's 3 or 4 weeks late on the "wait, Donovan McNabb isn't the quarterback we've been hyping him up to be" bandwagon.

Selwen Soulgazer
10-02-2003, 09:34 AM
I cant stand Rush.He's a pompous windbag.That being said, I think they are blowing this way out of proportion. Peolple heard the word black in a criticism and went apeshit.

Thormir
10-02-2003, 01:24 PM
Agree with Selwen on all points.

Ibudin
10-02-2003, 03:41 PM
Its a clear example of Freedom of Speech and what can happen to you. You are not immune to what happens after you open up that cake hole and say whats on the top of your mind lol.



Ibudin

Talveran Shadowbomb
10-02-2003, 03:48 PM
The statement wasn't racist, it was stupid. What he was trying to say is the media is full of liberal extremists and McNabb sucks. He should know better these days with all the PC crap going on to word it the way he did.

Maybe I am naive, but if you got the sh!t to play QB, then you will succeed, regardless of your race.

Boneskin
10-02-2003, 03:49 PM
well. i just browsed the article. was the racist comment about the black quarterback? im not saying rush is a great guy or anything (in fact he is somewhat of an arrogant prick) but how come someone talks about a guard in basketball being white, thats ok?

Its not like he went off and called him a fucking good for nothing nigger or something that had malicious intent. once again this just goes back to people wanting to be offended. everyone loves to play the role of the victim.

anyways. i did hear someone say something like it just came out that Rush is addicted to oxycottin or something. didnt hear much about that but thats pretty messed up. i guess that explains the weight loss :p

Ailwon
10-02-2003, 04:37 PM
I have to also agree with Selwen on all points.

I don't like him because he's an idiot windbag who rarely backs up what he says.

I'm glad he resigned from ESPN...he didn't belong there in the first place.

That being said, I think this is being blown way out of proportion. People are reading things into what he said, because of their agenda. It was bound to happen of course.

Ba bye Rush :rollin

ShannoDaMonk
10-02-2003, 04:38 PM
I am not a "rush" fan by any means. But what he says has merit in this sense. For the longest time, the QB was a white position. It was actually done because the best athletes were not QB's but wideouts and runningbacks. Football has evolved over the years, and that is now the premier position. It is true that the media makes a bigger point of it. Look at all the hype about Vick, or Mcnabb, but when is the last time a black quarterback lead a team to a superbowl win ....Redskins ring a bell? (doug williams)

Also, I love the rednecks remark... Most "rednecks" I know are democrats and do not listen to Rush..

Shanno

Baltyn
10-02-2003, 05:15 PM
sitting here board in class...decided to read what Rush said...what he said wasnt 1 bit racist

Osgiliath666
10-02-2003, 06:28 PM
Not racist and I agree with what he says...=/

Lleauric
10-02-2003, 11:04 PM
In other news..

Fla. Police confirm that Rush is the target of a Drug investigation.

When it rains.. it pours

zenrkscallytail
10-03-2003, 12:12 AM
Blacks and Mexicans are more racist then white people, but only the white people are targeted.

It is only a problem when a majority targets a minority, if it happens the other way around its ok.

Black people wanted to be treaded like white people .... simple answer : act like white people ( this will never happen but they wanted it ) if a Goth white trash walks in to a store I bet he gets treaded the same as a black person.

black people chose to be different and wanted to be treaded the same. not on a person to person basis but as a race in America, Africans or Americans , NOT both they need to chose.


Women wanted to be treaded like equals YET still having all the extra privileges, ever heard of ERA. "equal rights act", they wanted to add a line to the constitution staying women and men have equal rights, the biggest protesters of this where women because they didn't want to be treaded equally they wanted to be treaded like women not men and not be required to be in the draft, AND have all the rights as men, making men unfair....

Growing up in America as a white man I have had every advantage given to me , I am not going to screen oh poor white man. but for other races and sexes that bitch about equal rights, will never be equal till we are all white males… do I think blacks should be decimated against NO. do I think a women can do any job ( outside of physical labor and war [ some can most cant ] ) a man can do YES.

I am not racist and I am not sexist.

People want to be different, but they want equal treatment, AND something else over the white man.

Talari
10-03-2003, 01:41 AM
about equal rights...

Myself (white male) and a African american male apply to a college. I have a 92 average. The african american has a 91 average. There is only one spot left in the college or something.. i will not get in.. just because im not a minority. oh but... we are sooooooo equal... its bullshit. dont deny my scenerio above cause its true.. i wouldn't get in over a black man because im white.

PreEbay Saeeliel
10-03-2003, 02:05 AM
I'm not much of a Rush fan, but I actually agree with the guy. It's true, Donavan was being hyped up as the first real successful black quarterback in the NFL, and it just didn't really happen. How can anyone disagree with that? Just because the word "black" is in the statement doesn't mean it's racist.

This is sort of like when someone that plays EQ kills themselves, and then fucktards write ridiculous articles on how EQ is TEH DEVIL!!!!! They're just looking for something to blow out of proportion so they can have something good to write. And guess what? If you say the word "black" chances are the media can find some way to relate that to racism if they really want to :rolleyes .

broneb
10-03-2003, 03:07 AM
McNabb is a stud at QB. It's not like he is tossing balls to Moss, Harrision, or Owens in Philly. He has average wideouts at best. Not only that, his running back core in Philly is shit. To say that he is only rated high because he is black is a joke and racist. He had an 86 qb rating last year which is great considering he is throwing those balls to James Thrash and Todd Pinkston. There are 25 other starting QB's last year that didn't reach that mark. Some of the names on that list are Garcia, Favre, and Brady. Hell, he was tied with Bledsoe in QB rating and Bledsoe is always named one of the best in the NFL. Numbers don't lie.

Karmon Shadowstalker
10-03-2003, 03:44 AM
It was a stupid thing he said, but McNabb is overrated. I mean, if you want to go by QB rating...here's some current stats from ESPN.

current stats - 2003 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=pass&sort=rat&league=nfl)

McNabb is AT the bottom for 2003, hes #7 in 2002...thats good, but Trent Green (92.6) and Matt Hasselbeck (87.8 ) got almost no media coverage.

Now, this raises an entire different can of beans. I think that the media DOES overhype black QBs, but I dont see it as a bad thing. I imagine 20-30 years from now, white QBs will have a fraction of what they have right now. Colleges nowadays definitely focus on the running game...and having a QB who does more than hand it off gives teams some needed depth.

Slant Earthshaker
10-03-2003, 04:47 AM
To say that he is only rated high because he is black is a joke and racist.

Reading never was your strong subject Nose. Here let me help you out - read the exact quote (try hard) and see if you can find what you claim is inside it -

"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team." -Rush Limbaugh

Hmm.. nope dont see anything about his rating at all.. and nope dont see anything about the rating being that way because he is black. Try again though.

Myself (white male) and a African american male apply to a college. I have a 92 average. The african american has a 91 average.

Heh thats funny Talari. No WAY you have a 92 average when you get to high school :\

Master Damoiel Mindbend
Retired Enchanter of the 60th Season

broneb
10-03-2003, 05:29 AM
Why not post the first half of Rush's speech. Damn you are one huge moron. Let me quote it for you because I can listen, can you?

“I think the sum of what you’re all saying is that Donavan McNabb is regressing, he’s going backward,” Limbaugh said. “Sorry to say this, I don’t think he’s been that good from the get-go.”

In other words. HE IS FUCKING OVER RATED. And you say I dont know how to read. You are officially my bitch!

Slant Earthshaker
10-03-2003, 06:16 AM
Way to totally miss the point, dumbfuck :\

You have the strangest sense of "internet owning". God forbid I mention something about the California grocery and food industry for fear of becoming Nosegoblyn's bitch over a fucking irrelevant tangent.

Go back to trying to save someone that totally doesnt want or need it Nose. And like every other pussy liberal bitch when someone points out how fucking stupid you are, just wave your hands and focus on some miniscule and unimportant interpretation.

Here let me try and get you back on track tubby.
You said Rush Limbaugh claimed Donnovan McNabb is rated high BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. Please back up your moronic overgeneralizations with some fact.

Master Damoiel Mindbend
Retired Enchanter of the 60th Season

Darus Grey
10-03-2003, 06:47 AM
racism implies the comment was hateful, or meant to belittle mcnabb solely based on his race.

I dont see how you can draw that from the comment, it implies the opposite. That hes rated highly because of his race.

broneb
10-03-2003, 07:40 AM
Reading never was your strong subject Nose. Here let me help you out - read the exact quote (try hard) and see if you can find what you claim is inside it -

"I think------ team." -Rush Limbaugh

HMM.. NOPE DONT SEE ANYTHING ABOUT HIS RATING AT ALL.. and nope dont see anything about the rating being that way because he is black. Try again though.

You insult me about something you are wrong about. Let me quote this last part for you.


You neglected to listen to the whole conversation which is all about his rating as a black QB. Want more proof. Here is a direct quote from ABCNEWS: (abcnews.go.com/wire/Sport...2444.html) (http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Sports/ap20031002_2444.html))

The conservative commentator gave up his job as an ESPN sports analyst late Wednesday, three days after saying on the sports network's "Sunday NFL Countdown" that Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was OVERRATED because the media wanted to see a black quarterback succeed.

I put the word OVERRATED in caps so you could read it. Don't tell me I don't know how to read because you're obviously the dipshit that doesn't know how to comprehend.

Kein Bojangles
10-03-2003, 11:27 AM
Guess what?

You're STILL a moron.

Point out how the comment was racist at all? He wasn't saying that all black quarterback's suck, nor that McNabb would be good if he was white. Rush was right, and now that every single person who has posted here has told you that, you might as well shut the fuck up.

And wtf is up with this "You are officially my bitch!11one" shit? Makes you sound even more retarded, especially when you only pay attention ot one part of his post and ignore the part that completely refutes your point.

Slant Earthshaker
10-03-2003, 01:24 PM
I finally figured it out.. it all makes sense now. I realized what technique of argument you're using Nose. Its the infamous "Chewbacca Defense".

"Chewbacca is a wookie from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about that; that does not make sense. Why would a wookie, an 8 foot tall wookie, want to live on Endor with a bunch of two foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more importantly, you have to ask yourself, ‘what does that have to do with this case?' Nothing. Ladies and Gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case. It does not make sense!" – Johnny Cochran in his Chewbacca defense

But seriously, your quote wasnt in the article that you yourself posted. Mine was. I stand by my argument that you pull shit out of your ass.

And as I expected, you made no attempt to answer the question that everyone originally put to you. That is because you know you cannot. You sir are a fucktard.

As for the whole "owning" thing, get your rectum reamed by every poster with the exception of Ytrok, and you sorta learn to desperately grasp small victories when you can. You now understand the pathetic world of Nosegoblyn :\

Master Damoiel Mindbend
Retired Enchanter of the 60th Season

broneb
10-03-2003, 05:19 PM
This being racist can be argued. You can go to many sports sites and take a poll on it even. Both sides have valid points. But to say that he said nothing about McNabb being over-rated is 100% wrong. You wanted to argue that point but you clearly missed the ship. In my first point I wrote

Watch the video too.

So you have no reason to tell me that I cannot read. Very simple.

As for not listing why I think it was a racist comment. Read my second post again. It's the one you quoted from.

Feuerfaust
10-03-2003, 10:19 PM
Buddy of mine at work said it best:

"This fucking pisses me off. It's being treated just like the Jimmy the Greek incident. That wasn't racist. This wasn't racist. You wanna know what's racist? I'll tell you what's racist, a buncha WHITE motherfuckers in the press telling us blacks we should be offended. We can think for ourselves, and we KNOW when to be offended, and this ain't one of those times. Shit."

My response: "Wanna go eat at the chinese place, or the mexican place today?" (As you can see, I have my priorities in order.)

MarzMartini
10-03-2003, 10:50 PM
I <3 Faust

Willgatus Airslasher
10-03-2003, 11:17 PM
Faust = my hero.

Fullwin
10-03-2003, 11:27 PM
It's being treated just like the Jimmy the Greek incident. That wasn't racist. This wasn't racist.

It's been a while, but I'm pretty sure that Jimmy the Greek got in trouble for making broad generalizations about all black athletes. That's exactly what racism is -- it may not have been deragatory per se, but it was a racist statement.

As for Rush, I'm hardly a fan of the guy, and I don't even know what he was doing on a sports show in the first place. But his statement was simply an assertion that other people were treating McNabb differently on account of race. Rush was talking about a single person, not all black people; and he wasn't claiming the types of "facts" that Jimmy the Greek did.

Plus, McNabb has been a little overrated in some ways since coming to Philly. I live here, and up until the beginning of this year he's gotten a lot more leeway than we usually give our local athletes. But he is also one of the better QBs in the league generally; the Eagles have practically no real running game and our receivers could do much better. I don't think QB ratings account for dropped balls, and I've seen a LOT of them.

Toothy Draghkar
10-04-2003, 01:43 AM
McNabb is a VERY over rated quarter back :( Broneb you must be a philly fan.


Watching half of his passes go 5 feet above or below his receivers over and over again made me realize that last year. He isn't accurate, he's a hell of a rusher, but he can't throw for shit.

Toothy Draghkar
10-04-2003, 01:48 AM
Jimmy the Greek on the other hand was VERY racist. He said something to the effect of the reason black athletes are so prominent is because they were bred by the white slave owners and its genetics making it good.

Sorry for the double post.

Burta
10-08-2003, 05:45 AM
I ain't racist I own a color t.v.

Boneskin
10-10-2003, 08:03 PM
someone just told me that Rush just ended his show today with an admission to being addicted to pain pills for several years and without being able to quit on his own has decided to check himself into a rehab facility for 30 days (probably a 28 day program). good for him. i wish him the best.