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Talari
09-20-2003, 05:14 AM
NEW YORK (AP) -- A Long Island school board has voted to end a high school football team's season amid allegations that some players were sexually assaulted by older teammates at a training camp.

The Bellmore-Merrick school board decided at a Wednesday night closed-door meeting to cancel all of the Mepham High School football team's games, Newsday reported in Thursday editions.

Three varsity players, ages 15, 16 and 17, allegedly sodomized three junior varsity players with a broomstick, pine cones and golf balls while other players watched, the newspaper reported.

The alleged assaults took place at Camp Wayne in Preston Park, Pennsylvania, where about 60 Mepham High School players and five coaches spent a week last month.

School officials and players have said the coaches did not know about the incidents until one of the victim's parents reported it to the school principal several days after the team had returned.

The school board found that many of the team's players violated the district's code of conduct by not reporting the alleged abuse, Newsday said.

No arrests have been made, and prosecutors and school officials have not commented on the specifics of the allegations.

Newsday said school board members and Thomas Caramore, the district's superintendent, declined further comment Wednesday night.

State police are investigating.

from : www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/09/18/team.hazing.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/09/18/team.hazing.ap/index.html)

This school is about 3-4 miles away from me and it’s been the talk of the town just about every where you go. Now we talk about death penalty and god issues and killing people and stuff. Here is the question I ask of you after you read this.
Should these kids go to prison for their actions that they committed?
Now I hate Highschool football (that’s Soccer for the euros), So here is my 2cents. The Coach's shouldn't be held fully responsible for something that these kids did but come on. They are 16, 17 and 18 year old kids, They do know Right from Wrong, and if they say they don't they are lying. No music or computer game influenced them to do it, they did it by themselves and they should pay the consequences, I propose a 20year to life in prison. There is no excuse for their disgusting behavior.

/rant on

Elemak the Enchanter
09-20-2003, 05:42 AM
Something should definitely be done, cause otherwise I don't think it would take much for one of the victims to snap and go on a murder spree if he saw the kids get away with it.

Put em in prison for a couple of years and put their name on the list like anyone else who has done similar things.

MarzMartini
09-20-2003, 07:18 AM
Three varsity players, ages 15, 16 and 17, allegedly sodomized three junior varsity players with a broomstick, pine cones and golf balls while other players watched, the newspaper reported.

As far as I'm concerned. If guilty, they should go to prison for life.

Hubbe
09-20-2003, 09:21 AM
Highschool football (that’s Soccer for the euros),

Its the other way around.. Your Football is American Football to us while soccer to you is called football here.

Talari
09-20-2003, 01:30 PM
okay wait.. what do you guys call your "American football" 'Euro soccer?'

Jakkala
09-20-2003, 02:07 PM
Now I hate Highschool football (that’s Soccer for the euros),

Are you joking?

They are 16, 17 and 18 year old kids, They do know Right from Wrong, and if they say they don't they are lying.

I think, and hope, most sane people realize sodimizing your peers and teammates isn't acceptable.

Talari
09-20-2003, 02:13 PM
Are you joking?

Um, fuck no. i only like college football. in my school football is the only sport that i cheer for the other team against my own school. No its not because i was cut from the team.. which i wasnt cause i didnt try out or anything but.. yeah some day i wanna be apart of a group of guys who shove broom sticks up newbie's asses and get enjoyment out of it.

highschool football is teh suck, especiall my highschool, i hate thar football /rant on

DiscW
09-20-2003, 04:24 PM
Ah highschool football, gotta love it.

And talarian, ya missed Jakkala's point. He/she(not sure from the name...) was asking if you were joking when you called american football(the one with touchdowns) soccer(the one with goals)

But yeah, send the guy's to a "pound me in the ass" prision for a while.

Kanyli
09-20-2003, 08:25 PM
The Coach's shouldn't be held fully responsible for something that these kids didquote]In my experience, very often I see the coaches encouraging the players, and any leader worth their salt knows exactly what's going on. You don't spend that much time with your students and not get to know them well enough to have an idea of what they're doing. A story like this doesn't surprise me at all - nearly every high school and college sports team I've come across does some form of hazing, school rules be damned. It's the usual mentality of giving the football teams free run.

IMHO - in addition to nailing the kids, they need to go after the adults responsible for watching them.

Baloghdarogue
09-20-2003, 09:49 PM
Should these kids go to prison for their actions that they committed?

Is there anyone that would answer this question with no?
And if so pls post you're reasons so we have something to discuss.

zenrkscallytail
09-20-2003, 11:22 PM
when hazing meets the fags.

we use to put eggs and flour in freshman's hair, paint their face, at worst we would piss on the floor spit in and make them push a quater through it. it was all fun but no one ever every thought of playing with their asses.......

Talari
09-21-2003, 03:00 AM
Ya, Watch "Dazed and Confused" and see how the cheerleaders did things to the freshman noobies.. they would make that my on the ground while they put mustard and stuff all other them and flower and they would fry like piggies (shake on the ground)

I can see stuff like that but you never do anything sexually to them. One of the kids that got the broomstick up the wazoo is still in the hospital and had to have surgery, bc he was constantly bleeding from the rectum. These kids didn't have and lube in their back pocket that they used while they did this.. it just up there and prob was moving all around in there creating scars not only up their asses but in their minds as well.

How can you hold the coaches fully responsible for this, They can't have their eyes on the kids at ALL TIMES. But before the seasons started the coach told the seniors in a long convo just not to fuck around and not do anything stupid while on the trip..The coaches were counting on the seniors to look out for the younger kids.

Now Mepham highschool will probally never have a good football team b/c every1 be scared of getting stuff stuck up their asses.. i don't blame them.

zenrkscallytail
09-21-2003, 06:34 AM
kids who did it should be on trial for rape.

Shewdogg
09-21-2003, 12:59 PM
I think the 20 years to life is way too harsh. Honestly, what would be fair would to have those kids stick pine cones up the varsity guys asses then reverse hog tie them and go to town with some wiffle ball bats.

But that's just me.

JammanDarkdaddy
09-21-2003, 01:12 PM
They should not be on trial for rape, because i doubt they did it for their own sexual pleasure, but rather just as an extreme bullying. To me, it's up to the victims to press charges, and if they do, the boys should get at least a couple of years for assault.

And just to explain further, what us English call football is what Americans call soccer. And what Americans call football, everone else calls American football.

Talari
09-21-2003, 02:02 PM
I got more news from this guy i met last night whose son is actually on the Mepham Highschool football team. He said that the Seniors were bunked with the Freshman and Juniors and Soph's were together.

All the kids are threatening eachother that if they tell something bad will happen.. prob they gotta go get more pine combs /sigh

Shew: /agreee but we dont agree with the code of hamurabi in this country... its that stupid "cruel and unusualy punnishment" that sucks all the fun out of things.

Baloghdarogue
09-21-2003, 02:10 PM
They should not be on trial for rape, because i doubt they did it for their own sexual pleasure,

So its only rape if the offender does it for his own sexual pleasure?
90% of the "rapes" are done because of the perp. wants to have power over the victim.
Sexual pleasure is almost never the motive.
The fast majority of the man/woman that want sexual pleasure go to hookers and if they are not availlable masturbate.
Rape is by deffinition about power and not about sexual pleasure.

Willgatus Airslasher
09-21-2003, 10:22 PM
Knowing our current justice system, they'd probably wind up doing community service :\

Jakkala
09-21-2003, 10:39 PM
Rape has been determined not to be a sexual crime, but one of violence.

Prezto
09-21-2003, 11:51 PM
We used to tape the rookies up with athletic tape and lock them out of the locker room....I'm sure everyone involved deserves the death penalty.

Hubbe
09-22-2003, 09:30 AM
I say we put them in a ring for 3 minutes with tito ortiz, if they last the time they dont have to go to jail.

ThePerfectFlaw
09-22-2003, 10:02 AM
There's a fundamental difference between being taped up and having pinecones shoved up your ass.

Baltyn
09-22-2003, 01:44 PM
Punishment should fit the crime, and im sorry, i was on a football team in high school and i dont ever remeber some senior coming up to me with a broom stick and wanting me to bend over. Sexually assalting ANYONE deserves a term in Bubba's cells as his cuddle toy

Osgiliath666
09-22-2003, 02:01 PM
/agree Balty

Played 16 seasons of Hockey including 2 years of Junior A for those who know what that is. Heh, one time we taped a freshmen in highschool to the bottom of a bench for like a 1/2 hour. This Swedish exchange student kept wanting to piss on him. That was a little too wierd so we backed him off. But to sexually assault someone like that is unexceptable and I DO know a few guys who need a cellie REAL bad if ya' dig.

Ailwon
09-22-2003, 03:26 PM
"How can you hold the coaches fully responsible for this, They can't have their eyes on the kids at ALL TIMES."


"But before the seasons started the coach told the seniors in a long convo just not to fuck around and not do anything stupid while on the trip"

The coaches need to do a hell of a lot more than talk to the kids before the trip. I don't know the particulars of the trip, but they should have had their eye on the kids so they weren't drinking and getting into trouble. The psychos who did this should be in Juvenile hall for rape and other assorted charges, but the coaches are responsible as well. How responsible could only be determined with more information. I find it hard to believe they coached didn't know anthing about what was going on. I would bet that kids were probably "hazed" in previous years, it just hadn't gotten out of hand like this.

mirdorr
09-22-2003, 03:44 PM
While I agree that the coaches are at least partially responsible, some kids will do whatever they think they can get away with.

What kind if IDIOT puts the seniors and freshmen together? Frankly, that's asking for hazing incidents to happen.

Karmon Shadowstalker
09-22-2003, 04:01 PM
I used to play in high school too (Linebacker / guard, depending on the situation - I played both ways beyotch!), and the worst thing I remember was application of Icyhot to hands and shit while people slept.

Esbat
09-22-2003, 11:08 PM
We need to bring back public hanging- this is JUST the kind of crime where a good hanging would fit the bill- well, any rape would, for that matter.

Palimax Sceleris
09-22-2003, 11:59 PM
I played both ways So we hear...

Selwen Soulgazer
09-23-2003, 07:14 AM
Hey Osgil,what team did you play on in juniors?