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Fadorn
04-08-2008, 06:12 PM
This just makes me laugh... and want to cry... uptight much?
http://www.comcast.net/news/articles/politics/2008/04/08/Obama.Delegate.Resigns/
Obama Delegate Resigns After Remark
3 hours ago
CARPENTERSVILLE, Ill. — An Illinois delegate for Democratic Sen. Barack Obama resigned after using the word "monkeys" to describe black children playing in a tree, the Obama campaign said Tuesday.
Linda Ramirez-Sliwinski, a trustee in the Chicago suburb of Carpentersville, was issued a $75 ticket for disorderly conduct after neighbors complained to police. She says the word wasn't meant racially and she will fight the ticket.
"Given the incident, Linda Ramirez-Sliwinski is stepping down as a delegate and will be replaced," said Obama spokeswoman Amy Brundage.
The incident occurred Saturday, when two children were playing in a tree next door to Ramirez-Sliwinski's house.
She said the parents were outside supervising the children, but she went over and told them to get out of the tree because she was concerned about the boys' safety and because the small magnolia tree was being damaged.
The father of one of the boys told her it was none of her business, she told the Chicago Tribune, and "I calmly said the tree is not there for them to be climbing in there like monkeys."
The mother of one boy called police.
Cmdr. Michael Kilbourne said Tuesday a ticket was issued because the ordinance bans conduct that disturbs or alarms people. One of the boys told police he was scared by her comment and a mother said she was disturbed, he said.
Ramirez-Sliwinski does not have a listed telephone number. She did not respond immediately to an e-mail.
Ramirez-Sliwinski says she doesn't plan to run for another term on the village board. "In the eyes of the public, this is wrong," she told the Arlington Heights Daily Herald.
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Rover
04-08-2008, 07:07 PM
LOL...this is way WAY out of this world...its actually so sad, its funny that saying something so innocuios is bent in a way to make it racist.
Nekko1
04-08-2008, 07:20 PM
same could be said of some of Mcains remarks.
Sanchek
04-08-2008, 07:20 PM
How?
Taleren Bloodsong
04-08-2008, 07:40 PM
I call my daughter a monkey all the time ...
Jedd Corpse
04-08-2008, 07:47 PM
Kids climing tree's... Monkey's like to climb tree's... Racism? uh no!
Selwen Soulgazer
04-08-2008, 08:08 PM
I call my daughter a monkey all the time. She likes to climb things. Once again peopel are just way too fucking PC to the point of rediculusness.
Bylimet Spiritwalker
04-08-2008, 10:01 PM
I wonder if anyone has thought to track reports such as this, and do an analysis of the increase/decrease of racial intolerance/hate speech-crime from each quarter of 2007 as compared to the quarters of 2008, and any direct or indirect connections to the campaign of the first serious black candidate for president.
Sanchek
04-08-2008, 10:11 PM
I dunno about the rest of the country, but this kind if stupidity has been the norm here in the Atlanta area for as long as I can remember. Everyone tentatively tiptoes on eggshells of political correctness at least a few times a day.
Cados Evilsbane
04-08-2008, 10:14 PM
Yep, absolute stupidity. People need to learn to stop trying to be so offended all the time.
Bylimet Spiritwalker
04-08-2008, 10:22 PM
Yep, absolute stupidity. People need to learn to stop trying to be so offended all the time.
With Oprah, and Jerry Springer, and Maury Povich, and Ricki Lake, and who knows how many others from college campuses to church pulpits all stressing victim-hood day after day, isn't being offended a goal these days?
This just in... PETA suing for someone insinuating a monkey is like a HUMAN!
Nekko1
04-08-2008, 10:52 PM
Just say no to monkey knife fights.
Taleren Bloodsong
04-08-2008, 11:08 PM
I like to spank my... hey... wait
Thormir
04-08-2008, 11:54 PM
Bleh, hate that shit. Common sense please.
fildien
04-09-2008, 10:01 AM
Not to fear Sanchek there is still a non-PC spot in ATL. It's called Vortex I believe. I was there this past weekend, neat place. Wish there more of them around.
Sixee
04-09-2008, 10:02 AM
Well, this is what we get in a PC society....
She'll probably win, because she didn't come out and say "Hey you monkeys! Get out of that tree!" What probably will save her, is the small word "like" and how she phrased her statement.
This story has the ring of a bad Internet Rumor, however.....
Bylimet Spiritwalker
04-09-2008, 11:04 AM
....She'll probably win....
No, she lost as soon as someone jumped into a victimized stance and made an issue of a non-issue. She lost because now people are talking about her and this incident, and regardless of the outcome, she will be associated in many people's minds as the woman who called the little black kids monkeys.
Welcome to our sucky society. :(
Jedd Corpse
04-09-2008, 12:11 PM
I predict that many black people will also think of this as a non issue when they hear/read the story in full.
Nekko1
04-09-2008, 12:18 PM
black people ? or African Americans ?
Jedd Corpse
04-09-2008, 12:40 PM
black people ? or African Americans ?
Not all Black people are African Americans. I have had people get annoyed at being called that.
Palarran
04-09-2008, 12:59 PM
"Yes, I only hunt Blaculas."
"Oh, so you only hunt African-American vampires?"
"No, sometimes I hunt British vampires. They don't have African-American vampires in England!"
Starrla
04-09-2008, 01:47 PM
I called my kids monkeys all the time they way they play.... some folks amaze me that even with their education they lack simple common sense. I hope she does not win.
Greystone Thorngage
04-09-2008, 02:12 PM
the irony of my roomates kids are half black, and i call the son crazy monkey boy, and until now i neveer thought about it,.
Bylimet Spiritwalker
04-09-2008, 02:22 PM
http://www.robertsfamilyfh.com/obit-display.jhtml?DB=update/obits/dbase&DO=display&ID=1144775066_21930
The man in the above obituary died two years ago this week. He was the son of parents who were both descended from slave families, and grew up in the South amid the separate washrooms and drinking fountains and over all treatment. He used the nickname "Duke" when playing clubs throughout the south, and was known by both Dick and Duke in the North. If you use the link and look at the photo, what is your first impression as to race?
Duke used to ask a standard question when one of his step-daughters' husbands or boyfriends would call themselves an African-American: "Tell me, what part of Africa are you from?" He was equally disdainful of folk's referring to themselves by color, and would always ask his grandkids and great-grandkids if there was more to them of importance to be known by than a color. He also used to call the great-grandkids little monkeys when they were scrambling about and climbing stuff. I don't think he ever gave any thought to describing little kids playing, no matter the shade of skin, as monkeys, since they so resembled the sight of small monkeys at the zoo running about.
Dinner with him was always a learning experience, whether it was talking about race relations or the Bush motives for Iraq (he also believed in the oil theory) or whatever the latest hot news item was from around the world. He was an encyclopedia of knowledge regarding the Civil rights Movement. I miss him. He was my stepfather.
Taleren Bloodsong
04-09-2008, 02:55 PM
He's about as black as Kelvin Sampson was my first impression.
Haloface
04-14-2008, 03:13 AM
Well ok, it's extreme to call it racism, but to believe no harm could ever come of it is silly, especially when the word monkey was used to describe black people for centuries.
Bylimet Spiritwalker
04-14-2008, 06:46 AM
Well ok, it's extreme to call it racism, but to believe no harm could ever come of it is silly, especially when the word monkey was used to describe black people for centuries.
Doesn't the idea of "intent" enter in at some point, tho'?
The term "whitey" was also used by some in a derogatory manner. However, on the television show "Leave It To Beaver", Whitey was the name (or nickname) of one of Beaver's best friends. And let's not even get started on 'the Beaver'. :eek:
Haloface
04-14-2008, 07:08 AM
Of course intent is important. Like I said - you could hardly call it racism in this case.
However, that isn't to suggest that anyone taking offense should be laughed at especially, as I said, the term was used as a derogatory remark against black persons for centuries.
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