Hey I posted a pic of my playground and yall lock the god damn thread. I paid to keep this shit hole open when alot would not and you lock my thread refuse to give me a custom name? FU MODS!

I have to say...Why the Hell did you lock her post? It was harmless. Kivorn, you are an asshole.

Take your uptight ass somewhere else you prick. :D

Oh, and I don't give a shit if you ban me, cause your boards have become bullshit anyway, since you started locking every damn thread that has been posted.

She paid to keep these boards going and you lock her thread that has absolutely no ill will towards anyone? Kivorn get over yourself, Self righteous prick.

:evil

Take all the insults and profanity out of the above post, and I'll second it.

High levels of censorship on a NAG board is just silly and really reduces the entertainment value of the board itself.

I have to say...Why the Hell did you lock her post? It was harmless. Kivorn, you are an asshole.

Take your uptight buttocks somewhere else you male genitalia.

Oh, and I don't give a poop if you ban me, cause your boards have become bullcacka anyway, since you started locking every darn thread that has been posted.

She paid to keep these boards going and you lock her thread that has absolutely no ill will towards anyone? Kivorn get over yourself, Self righteous dingaling.

Is that better? Nearly anything goes my Tush.


:evil

Missed the top line.

Your not an A-hole, you're a brown eye of the buttocks.

I hope your happy ********.


:evil

Kiv, I do think in Silentcerri's case she was having a little harmless fun, and that y'all jumped the gun there. Heck, I was was going to call one of the swings when I saw that the thread was locked last night... ;)

She *is* a long-term contributor to and supporter of the boards, and while she contributes a fair number of, shall we say, 'silly' posts, she doesn't (in my view) feel the need to scent-mark all over other people's threads or insult people, and I think the post was intended as much to poke fun at the poo-flinging crowd getting squelched as it was to needle y'all.

I realize that you guys mean well (and I'm *very* glad for the increased moderation), but try not to be quite so quick to jump the gun and throw the baby out with the bathwater just because people indulge in a little silliness every now and then... :)

Regards,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Past Coercer - Autonomous Collective

I hope your happy ********.
I assume you mean me (Sanchek). Why, I'm not sure though.

As for Kiv locking Cerri's post, sure there's two sides to every story. I can very clearly see it as being an attempt to see just how close around the rules he could skirt with that post. If I made a post like that myself, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see it locked or deleted.

BTW, starting a new threads, when there's already a couple dedicated to the new moderation, is probably about the worst possible way to get your point across. Just ask Trilikin about that.

So this board is not a private playground for anyone but the mods?

Who's using it as a playground?

hey Mods.. make a new section.. call it " Playground" and stay the hell out of there and don't worry about it.

There we go.. problem solved.

Gukazz / Wallie

That's pretty much what's being done. Kiv and Selwen are I think is the only mods for NAG so I don't have much say in what he's doing though I've expressed my concerns over the over-agressive style in which he's modding now.

We'll be making the switch soonish though, so just hang tight guys.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I can very clearly see it as being an attempt to see just how close around the rules he could skirt with that post.<hr></blockquote>
CONSPIRACY?!?

In my opinion, the only thing that should be moderated in NAG is spamming and by spamming I don't mean posts that are useless in the moderators opinion, unless of course its advertising or making multiple posts type spam.

BTW, starting a new threads, when there's already a couple dedicated to the new moderation, is probably about the worst possible way to get your point across. Just ask Trilikin about that.

I don't care. I just found it difficult to post in Silentcerri's post to make a point seeing how it got locked. But, it would be interesting to know why it was locked. It didn't attack anyone, I don't think she cursed very much. It was only mildly entertaining and wasn't getting too many hits anyway.

Sanchek, I actually didn't mean to single you out but I couldn't edit. I edited the curse words for Korl. Meant to say I hope ya happy now Korl. for editing the swears. :rolleyes


:evil

Power corrupts, absolute power.......you know the saying.

Okey this is why it was locked down:
It was a post that directly made fun of the sticky on the forum, while at the same time doing *Exactly* the same thing that the other locked threads were, and I'm just too tired and sick of stuff like that right now.

Don't like it? So noted. And no I'm not going to ban you. I've never been heavy on the banning. And if you'd take two fricking seconds to take a look at these board from an administrator's viewpoint you'd see why I did what I did.

Regardless, don't worry, ayonae.ro 2.0 should fix this problem.

I just wanted to add, from an oldtimer, that the mods on this forum have become really pathetic. Used to, there were basically 2 rules: you couldn't use racial/ethnic slurs, and you couldn't spam ads and shit.

Kivorn, you act like the kid that brought the ball to the playground but keeps threatening to take it back home because everyone won't play his way. Grow up young man. You make yourself look far worse than the people you are trying to control.

This board, moderated in this manner, is horrid. Perhaps you should consider stepping down as moderator. All would be better served.

Sounds about right, Nemaj.

Your crappy attitude and unconsistant moderation definately contributes to making this place the shit hole that it is..

I'm sure your mod skills have people just going stir crazy for the new boards...

Can I have moderation for this board when you move it to the vbbb? I was going to pay the other 300 but the 6 mos was already purchased by the time i had decided to do it. I really think someone should go visit kiv and kick him in the nuts but hey he is drunk with power or vodka or something.

God, no. I'm not drunk with power.
Fricking hell. There's nothing I'd like more than step off and let someone take care of the board, but truth of the matter is, no one that's even proven remotely competent has agreed.

I disappeared while Hubbe was here. Or maybe you didn't notice that.
I'll walk away again if we can find a half decent administrator with the balls to make decisions.

Why don't you all shut the fuck up with your fucking whinning?
If it's not being moderated, you cry like bitches for moderation. When someone has the balls to start locking up the USELESS SHIT, kicking out the irritating fuckfaces, and moving the crap that doesn't belong, you cry like bitches.

Don't like the moderation? Fuck off then.
Don't like being moderated? Here's a tip - don't post utterly useless and senseless threads. It appears to be the new rule, and if you don't agree with it, it's tough titties. I posted in Cerri's playground thread, but I'm not gonna whine like a bitch because I can see what Kiv is doing.

There's been countless threads complaning about the unproductive nature of this particular section of the forum, and now they are gonna sharpen it up, for us.
You see that? FOR US. You think Kiv LIKES wasting hours here running the forum with the other admins? Power corrupts? What power, you fucking dipshit. He is a moderator of a community forum, doing it FOR FREE. You think he is some pathetic shmuck that sits at home chuckling like an evil mastermind because he has the - OMMYGOSH - power to lock threads?

Get a fucking reality check, and start THANKING the mods for all the work they put in to keep this place active and existing. Some individuals may pay the supporting costs for such a forum, but THEY make it operational.

I'd like to see half of you do a remotely better job.

Twats.

I want hubbe back, he was tight =p Or I will mod if needed!

Halo, wipe your mouth. You've got a little bit of Kiv's cum just on your lip. Thanks.

Kiv,

I will do it. :hat

Ooh ooh, pick me. Pick me! >D





Maylen Bojangles

Shut the fuck up HALO. You are just as bad as anyone around here. It's obvious Kiv has a hard on for certain folks. I'm sure nothing will change in Version 2 but we'll see. Dirt ball,.

OMGOSH LOELZ NEMAJ U MADE A FUNNY ROFLMAO

Shut the fuck up little bitch. You went in to lurking mode, maybe you should stay that fucking way, huh?

Osgiliath, did you just call me a dirt-ball?
Dear god. How do you survive on this forum?

don't post utterly useless and senseless threads. It appears to be the new rule, and if you don't agree with it, it's tough titties

its crap like this that gets the drums beating in the first place...

What the fuck are the rules around here? oh you mean the ones that change all the time or have different interpretations depending on the situation? Can anyone be consistant around here?

Halo you can bitch all you like, your irritating participation in everything on these boards makes most people want to vomit....
Just because you have the time to sit around and participate in every single discussion certainly does not mean you need to actively participate in every single damm discussion, especially as a moderator on this board....you are usually in the middle of almost every negative issue on these boards,
Spewing your anti american horseshit... your the second idiot I would like to see leave.....

Wow what a giant line is forming to use the new boards where every stupid inconsistant thing the mods couldn't never get right will be cleaned up nicely over there AND all the stupid idiot posts will have their very own home... happy-happy-joy-joy

'Halo you can bitch all you like, your irritating participation in everything on these boards makes most people want to vomit....'

- You're not just saying this to turn me on, are you?

I get about an hour an evening on these forums, and about 10mins in the morning. If I manage to stick my nose in to every issue, then cool-beans. I'd certainly love more time to do so.

Have I told you to go fuck yourself recently? No?
Consider it done.

'Halo you can bitch all you like, your irritating participation in everything on these boards makes most people want to vomit....'

- You're not just saying this to turn me on.. are you?

I get about an hour an evening and 10mins in the morning to browse these forums, and if I manage to stick my nose in to every issue, then cool-beans. I just wish I had more time to do so.

Did I tell you to go fuck yourself recently?
If not, consider it done.

Hmm, may as well make that double-post a tripple-post.
Silly error messages.

Selan whos the first idiot you want to see leave?

Who do you think, dipshit?

kiv?

I just wanted to add, from an oldtimer, that the mods on this forum have become really pathetic. Used to, there were basically 2 rules: you couldn't use racial/ethnic slurs, and you couldn't spam ads and shit.

What exactly is so pathetic now? That you can't just run in and sling shit in every which direction? That someone actually gives a crap what goes on here?

In the "old days" people posted racial slurs, Trilkin saturated the boards, Jed was a complete ass, and once in a while someone even made an EQ post. But, obviously, hindsight tells you it was all happy happy joy joy back then.

There have been what, 2 incidents, that affected COMPLETELY USELESS items. And everyone has their panties in a bunch.

Yeah. Right.

This isn't www.euro.ro...it's www.ayonae.ro. For the Ayonae Ro community. If we enjoy retarded posts about useless bullshit then you have no right to do anything to it because this is OUR community board. Halo, you don't even fucking play EQ anymore so you're opinion on anything matters this much: zero. Zero for nothing. And honestly, you're a big fucking hypocrit. There's a good 900 threads in RL nag started by you about retarded anti american crap. Maybe you should lay off the faggot pills for a while and pull your head of your ass because this isn't just about what you like or dislike. It's about what the majority wants and I'm pretty sure the majority wants the retarded, bullshit posts to continue. Why? Because it's funny to watch people make asses of themselves. You should know best since you seem to be so fond of doing so.




Maylen Bojangles

COMPLETELY USELESS items
Items completely useless *to you*.
Server Community Board
That's what it says at the top of this board. This encompasses the entire server's population, and thus the assumption is that this is a place where we can come to talk with anyone from the server. Perhaps the banner should be updated to read "Board for Select Members of the Server, designated by the Administrators". By all means, turn it into a board for the people you like and know, just let the rest of us know so we can go make our own.

Honestly, you should just make a link to some politcal discussion board, and nix these. There hasn't been good EQ content here for a long time, and what little left is just going to get locked... and most of the time not because it's pointless, but because the mod doesn't actually play enough to know the difference.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Get a fucking reality check, and start THANKING the mods for all the work they put in to keep this place active and existing. Some individuals may pay the supporting costs for such a forum, but THEY make it operational.<hr></blockquote>

They do a good job yes, but lately there's been screaming, directly after threads started getting locked. I'd think the community should be allowed to express their disagreement whenever they feel the need, not get locked down when they do.

Okey guys let me sum this up.
You're pissed that I removed
A: Pointless banter (and yes, I'm qualified to make that judgement, any human being with a fucking brain has when it comes to those posts)
B: I removed Silentcerri's post, which was nothing but a challenge. In essence, she walked up to me and said "I dare you to react", and you know what... I did react. Did I ban her? No. I'm telling her that I have better things to do than handle her issues with authority.
I like Cerri, and I most certainly appreciate all she's done for the board (shit, I don't even have a hundred bucks in my spending account right now). But frankly, stuff like that just wastes everyone's time (and creates threads like these).
If you want to blame anyone... blame Cerri. She knew what she'd start with that thread.

So why are we locking threads now, after letting the community run free for so long?
Well its simple.

What we want on this board is... discussions. Funky eh? A bulletin board designed for people... talking? What those posts were were the equivalent of an obnoxious gang of loud fourteen year olds making your day a pain in the ass while you're trying to have lunch with your friend.
"But they weren't harming anyone!" - bullshit. They were a pain in the ass, and we all know it. What you have issues with was that I removed their "right" to be here. Well guess what, they don't have a right to be here. You're all here at the mercy of the admin staff.

What I did was an effort to remove a nuisance and to open the place up to a broader crowd than the "in crowd" with internal jokes and annoying behavior. That effort will come in realization with the conception of the Sandbox forum (see the enormous fucking post link on the top of the forum).
What we'll do with the "magical" new forums is that we'll simply give the banter a forum of their own.

"So why start locking NOW?!?!", well simple. They werent getting that forum until I started locking, and realizing that doing so wasnt ultimately the best solution. But you all have to realize that moderation will always be around. And if you cant handle people having authority over you, you need to get out of human societies period.

Again, I'm sorry for all of this ruckus. But those threads were dumb and you know it. And all Cerri did was challenge me on the topic in an extremely stupid way, because she forced me into a situation where I had to take action or step away from the precedent I had set.

Dude, how do you know what wastes our time? The answer is you don't. Now why don't you just say the truth? That it wastes YOUR time or annoys YOU. Because no one posted that it annoyed them or was a waste of time. Maybe you need to not make decisions on behalf of ayonae ro. That would probably settle our problems.




Maylen Bojangles

I'm sorry you feel that way, but I run this place, and I will continue to make decisions for ayonae.ro with or without your consent, at least for the time being.

All in all, you'll get to enjoy the banter again within a week with the introduction of the Sandbox (hopefully, dont quote me on that ETA).

Lets get something straight here. You don't run these boards. You're the chief of police and this is your town. However we pay the chief or we vote on the chief because without ayonae ro there is no board. I don't know whats come over you all of a sudden, but it was never ever like this before. But if you think that just because your the "head cheese" gives you the right to walk around and do whatever you want, then you're sadly mistaken. Ayonae.ro is for us to do whatever we see fit with it, because if we left then you have nothing.



Maylen Bojangles

GOONJABBAGOODJABBAGOONJABBAGahhhhhhhhh!

Look Maylen I don't want to get into a dickmeasuring contest with you. Its pointless. I have no wish to ostracize myself or anyone else from this community. I made a judgement call, and its done. Whether or not you agree with me is right now moot.
The whole "power to the people" is sort of out these days. If I wanted a morality lecture of that calibre I'd hit up the local communist compound. Moderators, and administrators, have authority. Just make peace with it.

Nothing has come over me. I just did something that's been due in my eyes, and others, for a long long time. Just step back, cool off, and ask yourself if you're not overreacting. Because I think you are.

It's about what the majority wants and I'm pretty sure the majority wants the retarded, bullshit posts to continue.

I don't want the retarded bullshit posts to continue, and neither do quite a few other people who have made their voices heard on this issue :) . And what does being European, or not playing EQ anymore, have to do with whether or not he is capable of moderating this serverboard? In case you need a history lesson, the founder of the board was Swedish, as was Hubbe, and the majority of the mods over the history of this board have been retired/semi-retired players. Anyway, it's also been my observation that most of the 'poo-flinging monkeys' (/writes Palimax a royalty check ;) ) lurking around here are *also* no longer playing the game...

In other words, quit crawling up Kivorn's ass. He, and the other mods, are trying to reclaim A Ro as a place that people just *might* be willing to come back and actually communicate with each other on, possibly even about EQ! He's also about to give you guys your own litter box to stink up, so just sit down and take some Imodium, strap some Depends on, and try to hang on for a week or so...

Sincerely,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Past Coercer - Autonomous Collective

The euro thing was directed more at Halo :\




Maylen Bojangles

I hate you nydia :|

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I don't want the retarded bullshit posts to continue, and neither do quite a few other people who have made their voices heard on this issue .<hr></blockquote>

Its pretty obvious that alot more people are bitching and complaining when this stuff is moderated. Please direct me to some posts made in the past by people complaining about lack of moderation.

I don't want the retarded bullshit posts to continue,

Well I do. I like it when we post stupid ass shit and watching either Halo or the mods go screwy.

Nydia is a kiss ass..neenerneenerneener!

:b :b :b :b :b

Kiv, you still haven't touched on the point that you locked for instance, the "Tuattha" thread, when in fact it really wasn't pointless banter as you label it.

You mean the post containing a picture of a cybersex conversation with the other party's name blurred out?

I think you just proved my point that you will never be able to tell the difference between some EQ flames, and "pointless banter", or is someone actually active in the game going to moderate that section of the new boards?

Dude, it was hardly cyber sex. From what I saw it was no worse than the normal chat that goes around here. :\




Maylen Bojangles

Kiv, you still haven't touched on the point that you locked for instance, the "Tuattha" thread, when in fact it really wasn't pointless banter as you label it.
I'm sure if someone had politely explained to him that it was a real NAG worthy post, like you did to me in IRC, he would have unlocked it. Waiting weeks to say anything, and then holding it over his head is pointless.

Besides, the thread was open for over two days and went no where. If that was supposed to be a NAG, it was the most pathetic, pussy-footing NAG I think I've ever seen. If it had been anything but <fake cyber here> and "tee hee" "lolez" from a couple people, AND hadn't been right in the middle of a rash of similar spam; I doubt it would have been locked.

If the Tuattha thread, as explained by Sanchek, isn't an inside joke I don't know what is.

Just posting an image like that, without any explanation, will get you nowhere seeing as how 90% of the people reading the post won't get it.

Which you probably observed, seeing as how the thread went absolutely nowhere after a couple of days of exposure.

I'll see your "I think you just proved my point that you will never be able to tell the difference between some EQ flames, and "pointless banter" and raise you a "Some just need to learn how to post a real NAG, my young padawan" :)

'The euro thing was directed more at Halo '

- You better believe it's www.euro.ro, bitch.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>If the Tuattha thread, as explained by Sanchek, isn't an inside joke I don't know what is.<hr></blockquote>

Better make sure you guys make it entertaining for the mods, guys! Make sure anyone can understand it, even if they don't play EQ. You must supply the background information in your posts.

You better believe it's www.euro.ro, bitch.

If that is the case then consider me the fuck outta here, as well as if it was america.ro or china.ro.

Kiv, San, Sel, I am friends with all of you and have known Kiv and Sel since Karana. I do think there is place for some of the useless flames. Like one poster stated earlier "It is funny watching people make asses of their self" I mean you CAN NOT tell me you didnt get enjoyment out of the Jedd vs Yegou fight thread! That was pure gold!! How did that start you may ask??? Was by a nonsense thread.

I realize you are trying to clean this place up but this is suppose to be Nearly Anything Goes, you moderate that to the point it is Hardly Anything Goes and you will loose allot of people. Way Back when, I personally got the most enjoyment out of it was watching the dumb ass fuckwads making fools of themselves. That is really what this forum is about guys!

Kiv and Sel do not take this as a flame as we have been good friends for a long time. You know me better then that. Just take a look at what you will do if this forum becomes over moderated.

And for Halo, You use to be cool man but in this thread you are doing nothing but running around like the Kicker of a football team with 2 of his linemen. You talk shit because you have the "big guys that can stomp mud-holes in people" on your side while you yap like a fucking Chihuahua. Just stop it bro seriously.

The big guys? Kiv's a 4 foot Swedish man-child.

[don't tell him that, though]

But seriously, I don't care if it was just me and Jedd or Wayfarer, I'll still tell people to stop whinning about the moderation, that's happened about a total of 4 times in a year.
They wanna clean the place up. So? This section used to be fun (albiet most of that was taken away when RLNAG was created), and instead of it being a place for Buzya and his retarded friends to create 20 "PM ME PLZ FAG" threads, they want it to become like it was.
I can understand that.
But I can't understand dipshits running their mouth off AT the mods, who dedicate a large portion of their time and patient running this place FOR us. 'Cause guess what, they don't get paid.

Please direct me to some posts made in the past by people complaining about lack of moderation.

You'd have to go back two or three years, and most of those people simply stopped bothering to post or even visit.

They wanna clean the place up. So? This section used to be fun (albiet most of that was taken away when RLNAG was created), and instead of it being a place for Buzya and his retarded friends to create 20 "PM ME PLZ FAG" threads, they want it to become like it was.


I understand they wanna clean up all the PM me plz fag threads. I agree 100%. Halo how often do you actually come to Nag though? I dont see you post here much.


I'll still tell people to stop whinning about the moderation, that's happened about a total of 4 times in a year.

But in turn you whine about it not being moded(is that a word?) enough. So can we say that both sides are wrong on this?

But I can't understand dipshits running their mouth off AT the mods, who dedicate a large portion of their time and patient running this place FOR us. 'Cause guess what, they don't get paid.

You are right on this point. They should not attack the mods but be constructive with what you say. The Fuck you Kivs/Mods need to stop!

Lets get something straight here. You don't run these boards.

The thing that really cracks me up is that you're smart enough to probably have 5 level 65 characters, while I can't even get 1 to 65. Yet, for all that, you say stupid crap like this.

Please Mirdorr, enlighten me as to who pays for the upkeep of these boards? Thanks.




Maylen Bojangles

There's a difference between running boards (which is what mods do) and paying for board upkeep (which is what mods and non-mods are capable of).

True, but isn't it the content that we bring to these boards that keeps people comming back? I've said it before, without the community of Ayonae Ro there are no boards. Don't get me wrong, the mods have done a GREAT job with this board, but as of late a lot of the "changes" going around here haven't been for the best in my and I'm sure, many others opinions.



Maylen Bojangles

It's all about signal to noise with these things. In the past, there were enough real threads going to drown out most of the noise and it didn't have much effect.

Over time, it became more and more likely that if someone opened a thread it would be a waste of their time. So, people started opening less threads, causing even less threads to be worthwhile. Etc.

Maybe we're going to improve that situation. Maybe it's too late. Either way, the hands off approach has already been tried, and the results have been bad. That's about the worst option to continue trying at this point.

It's just silly. If people can't see the ego kick that Kiv is on, I don't think it can be pointed out to them. There once was a General section for tame "discussion" and a NAG section for the bullshit. I will be the first to admit that NAG was often a cesspool of trifling bullshit...which is exactly what it was expected to be.

Then, a lot of RL stuff got posted in here and the mods made a RL NAG section (the beginning of the end of any quality entertainment on these boards, by the way).

So now, we have Kiv the Great locking the very threads that NAG was created to house. His solution...create yet another forum to hold those threads.

Hey, young man, you have already diluted your cesspool once, and you're about to do it again. Once done, you need to rename this place "General Also", because it sure as hell isn't NAG anymore.

It is what it is, but I remember a time when this board was worth reading, and it was a direct result of people posting bullshit.

Oh well, I hadn't visited this site in 6 months or more. I don't guess I've missed anything. You guys enjoy yourselves.

Oh, and it's nice to see that Halo hasn't grown up any throughout his early 20s. One day man, you just hang in there.

True, but isn't it the content that we bring to these boards that keeps people comming back?
In large part, people haven't been coming back. There are a number of factors involved (retiring from EQ being a big one), but one factor is that crap that passes for "content" these days.

I think the new boards will present a happier medium. It may be that EQ's gradual wane and the loss of so many long time players means that entertaining NAGs and relevant discussion are a thing of the past. But hell, we can try.

In large part, people haven't been coming back. There are a number of factors involved (retiring from EQ being a big one), but one factor is that crap that passes for "content" these days.


Are you sure it isnt the lack of crap or bullshit that isn't bringing them back? That's what entertains me the most at least. :p



Maylen Bojangles

Yes, I'm sure. Now hush. ;)

Please Mirdorr, enlighten me as to who pays

So if I've put in more than you, my posts are more important?

When it comes down to the mods vs what the ayonae ro community wants, I would think so. For instance that Silentcerri thread that was locked for absolutely no good reason at all. She's an avid ez supporter. I think that gives her the right to post what she posted as It wasn't offensive to anyone. Now I can understand that some people despise the retarded bullshit threads that are posted but, the MAJORITY of the people that visit this board like that shit. So choosing to lock some threads because a few select people weren't amused by it creates an uproar for the rest of the people that get a kick out of it. :)



Maylen Bojangles

You are right on this point. They should not attack the mods but be constructive with what you say. The Fuck you Kivs/Mods need to stop!

Exactly. There is no reason to toss insults and F bombs like Slant did. If you have an issue discuss it, instead of going off like a 12 year old who thinks he's cool cause he can curse.

People have made valid points about what direction they think the board should do so in a consrtuctive manner. Those suggestions wil be taken into consideration. The people who come out ranting like poo flinging ass monkeys only make a case against themselves.

If there was ever a thread that should be locked it is this one. People who don't like it here certainly have other options. Making a post about a complaint you have is one thing, beating a dead horse is just childish.

The boards here were amok for a while (misses Edina) and Kiv is trying to get a handle on it. He will make mistakes and he will get better or step aside I assume.

I hope you guys don't go around in rl and treat people the way you do here....if you do, then no wonder you have no life.

Kiv, I don't always agree with you, but I respecr your position. Keep working, it will get esier.

so do I get my title yet?

heh, see, the issue is, that some of the community is upset with how something is being handled. Akin to real life we have the right to complain... then again in real life we actually elected those leaders.

Instancing: The Bane of NAG =\

'But in turn you whine about it not being moded(is that a word?) enough. So can we say that both sides are wrong on this?'

- Actually no, never "whined" about it not being moderated enough.
I just said I can understand the need for it.
I guess I am contradictory in that I'm whinning for people to stop whinning. But hey, the lesser of two-evils, right? :P

Halo, it is my hope that someday you aquire gangrene in your mouth, so that you too can enjoy the taste of the bullshit you spew endlessly, day after day.

Somewhere along the journey that has been the last 5 years, these boards, along with EQ, became political, corporate, and squelched. Yes, you all got what many asked for: The possible end of immature, inflammatory behavior. The boards have now become a Volvo, nice, safe, and the ever politically correct neutral shade of beige. The fact that a Swede overseas this wonderful land of frolicking mediocrity is probably just a mere coincidence, btw.

So, now that we have thrown out the baby with the bathwater with this NAG forum, why even have it? There is no room for bad language, vulgarity of any kind, jokes (be they tasteless or just just plain honest ribbing like SC's post), inflammatory posts, or anything you might expect to find in a forum labeled Nearly Anything Goes. The name of this forum itself has really become a bit of a misnomer. NAG my ass (Oh no I mean my buttocks! Can't have potty mouth here!!!). More like Mostly Nothing Goes.

To get a true gage of that how about we look at what the so called "Playground Monitors" post. Truly the best one I saw so far has to be where Sanchek posts:

Who's using it as a playground?

Well, apparently no one because that might imply actually fun might be unleashed on the unsuspecting populace and we can't have that! No Sir! So, we wanted a board as exciting as the Wall Street Journal and now we have that. Of course its also a good way to throttle any life out of this forum to assure that the Mods and perhaps the rest of us will maybe stop spending money and time here. So, why go through all the time and money to make new boards, one has to ask? If this Mod team is creating them then rest assured they will come already equiped with the best censorship tools money can buy and a 2x4 already lodged firming up its digital ass. ( I mean buttocks)

'Halo, it is my hope that someday you aquire gangrene in your mouth, so that you too can enjoy the taste of the bullshit you spew endlessly, day after day. '

- Are you.. coming on to me?

Completely missing the point, if you think inflammatory content or language is what we're trying to get rid of. Might do well to read some of the posts we've made, not the knee jerk reaction by the tiny, vocal majority.

Guys,

I read the first 3 pages of this thread and gave up. Gerf won the debate.

This is NAG. You mods are just pissed it passed your moderated sections in {Pick one} "Hits, Interest or relevence".

Please let NAG remain fun!

I backed down on the RL NAG issue. This BS makes me regret that.

If you want to Mod something to improve it start with General or create a new heading. You are not attracting posters with your actions or attitudes.

NAG was a response to the way the board operated. Please remember the past.

You are not attracting posters with your actions or attitudes.

Thats probably their general plan. Scare everyone away and you don't have to pay for or spend time moderating a board for a game you don't even play anymore. (OMG, the Mods don't play EQ much or even at all. Shocker!)

Keep poaching all the NAG posts, gang, and then you can get back to reading that inter-office memo you SHOULD be reading instead of modding this board in order to assure you don't get in trouble at work for looking at pictures of a playground on a MB.

Thats probably their general plan. Scare everyone away and you don't have to pay for or spend time moderating a board for a game you don't even play anymore.
Gee, that must be it. That's the secret plan behind all the work we've been doing to setup the new boards.

YA!
FIGHT THE POWER, STICK IT TO THE MAN.

Kiv = Authority so Teenage Angst says we must Rebel!!

Omg Kiv u R teh HiTl3rz, plz 5top 2 loking teh thr3adz LOLZ!!!11
W3 n33d 2 expri.. expro.. expr355 0ur53lves! DuDE! U R teh ki773r of the Constitution! OMGPWND!!!!112.

'Thats probably their general plan. Scare everyone away and you don't have to pay for or spend time moderating a board for a game you don't even play anymore.'

- I don't think I've quite seen anything as retarded as that since Jedd organized a RL fight with Yhogurtballs.

Are you honestly so fucking stupid, Lummusl?
Kiv, Sanchek, anyone else could just say "hmm, I don't wanna spend countless hours of my time here. I think I'll quit."
They don't. Why? They care about the forum and the community.
Do you think they actually personally GIVE A SHIT about the NAG forum? I bet they don't give two fucking shits about what goes on here. But because it's their job, they'll spend their time making sure it's a better place FOR US. Not for themselves. Half of them don't even post here. But for us.

Stop being the bunch of retarded martyr's you believe yourselves to be and just shut the fuck up, or fuck off. Simpe, fuck off. Don't log in to the forum. You'll do yourself a favour.

Halo, I hope you are considerate enough to give Kiv and his Mod buddies a reach around while you are happily romping away on them from behind. At least cup their balls for them. The protein from semen is not a part of the Atkins Diet as well, either.

You don't play EQ anymore either, Halo. Mostly you come here to berate the US government and culture, so why should you have anything else reasonable to add here? Go back to RL Issues and stay out of here. Your right to post anything related to EQ ended when you E-bayed your enchanter and PayPal put the money into your account. BTW hard work doesn't matter if its misdirected effort. Hitler had great ambitions and work ethics as well too.

Wow.
I was joking when I compared Kiv to hitler..

You WIN!

'Your right to post anything related to EQ ended when you E-bayed your enchanter and PayPal put the money into your account.'

- News to me. Unless I did it while sleep-walking again.
But a nice reply. I think the underlying message was "Yes, I am a twat, and I'm being an unreasonable arsehole to the mods because I have no other amibitions in life."

Gotchya.

Halo. Chill.
You know I appreciate the sentiment but I don't need a personal bodyguard.
You're just pouring oil on the fire.

And Gerf, since when have I ever let you down? :)

I never was on Karana though. I came from German-err-I mean Solusek Ro. You got to know me as an EW app.

Halo. Chill.
You know I appreciate the sentiment but I don't need a personal bodyguard.
You're just pouring oil on the fire.

-- He's half a step from offering a blowjob.


Buntuk > Kivorn.

It beats being two steps ahead of that notion, huh Talidd?

Two dollah. Sucky sucky.

Ok, Kiv, you said you weren't going to allow the circle jerk posting crap awhile ago. Why in the fuck is Halo still allowed to post in NAG then?

This is quite a meaningful topic, despite the useless moaning on your side being rather moot.
"PM ME PLZ FAG" is, uhm, not.

See the logic? Not crazy troll logic. Regular, earth logic.

How many times are going to fucking bring that PM me shit up? There were like....2 threads at THE MOST. You sir, are a fucking retard.



Maylen Bojangles

Words can hurt like a fist.

*wipes the tears*

p196.ezboard.com/fayonaer...D=32.topic (http://p196.ezboard.com/fayonaerofrm2.showMessage?topicID=32.topic)

Basically, being a member of this community is a privillage, not a right. We will reserve the right to terminate, refuse or end any membership to this community for whatever the reason. By posting here, you agree to this fact.

Gee, sucks that the people bitching about the rules being enforced again didn't read the rules.

Oh, here's another one

p196.ezboard.com/fayonaer...3409.topic (http://p196.ezboard.com/fayonaerofrm6.showMessage?topicID=3409.topic)

By posting here you've agreed that you've read these rules and will adhere to them. Saying, "Fuck you, I don't need to follow your rules" will result in warning. You can tell me to fuck off and that my crotch smells like a homeless guy, but if you're going to debate the rules, you'll have to bring those up in a more civil manner.

....whoops rythm?

Guys, go look at the number of posts in this forum, not including all the ones recently moved here. How many have been replied to in the past, oh, 3 days?

Four. A whole four posts.

That itself proves this section has turned to shit. And now that the mods are actually trying to do something, you bitch and moan? That doesn't make any sense.

Please call me Trikki.

I was just very colorfully asking why Silentcerri's post was locked. Her post was nothing and has recently been unlocked and moved to another forum. I have also made amends with Kivorn, I prolly could have chose my words better.

Other then that, I have no more issue. So leave me be Disco Wilten ya phreak. >D



:evil

I never was on Karana though. I came from German-err-I mean Solusek Ro. You got to know me as an EW app.

Yeah i knew it was a LONG ass time ago though hehe. It was Sel that I knew from Karana. ;)

People playing the " you don't like it then leave card" need to just stop. The same can be said to you! If you don't like reading Dumb-ass l33t fag flames then don't click on them, its simple. Bottom line is this is the NAG forum and the reason that it was created was for the flames. Take out the dumb-ass flames and you don't need to bring your Flame retardant suits anymore, you might as well bring your tooth fairy costume.

If you don't like reading Dumb-ass l33t fag flames then don't click on them, its simple.

Ok, seriously, run for president man heh. I'm sick of the pansy-ass bullshit, "wah wah, they posted this, then I clicked on it even though I knew the content was retarded, and I have to bitch now, because seriously everyone really fucking cares!"

Some shit is pointless, but creating more forums is just going to make the boards retarded^2. Why don't you alphabetize the Real life section into 3 seperate forums even!

Hi my name is Gerf Forpresident and I approved this message!:rollin

Fazin, I thought you could read... I guess not. :(

Read what? You have created a new forum, and even given it a label on the new boards that no one is really going to want to post under at all. It gives me the same sense as when Furor made the "Retard Rickshaw" forum on the foh boards. Some sort of lame mature label, "they must be kids" was even applied to it. Actually, the literal label for that forum is "Where all the cool kids sneak away at night to get away from their parents.", on the new boards. (fyi, you should really stop pointing certain *.ayonae.ro links if you're not fully ready for people to look at the new boards, so I consider it fair game to evaluate.)

Unless you're referring to my point about people needing to grow up, and not click on links they know are just god damn retarded in the first place. I'm not sure which point you were aiming at, since you didn't specify anything in your quip.

How about people growing up, and not making the retarded fucking threads in the first place?

Endless, useless, cycle.

Just shut the fuck up. What's done is done, and will be done.

Does this mean halo will be growing out of his ignorant state of blind US hatred?

Could someone go see if Halo was recently hit by lightning? I've always been an iffy believer in "god" or whatever, but after his last post.. I'm pretty sure if there was a god, then Halo would be nothing more then ash with a half-burned american flag sticking out.

Point is, there will be less forums on the new boards when it's all said and done. Things people are saying might make sense, if only they weren't the exact opposite of what's happening. Note the 24 point type announcements at the top of the board, if you haven't noticed them.

If you think the Rickshaw is where the "cool kids" hang out on the FoH boards, I can only assume you've never really read them. Moderating the trash to the rickshaw is the only thing that keeps those boards remotely worthwhile. There are actual WoW/EQ/MMO related topics in general, and dorks asking for CS site links and trying to figure out if Samus is a hermaphrodite in the rickshaw.

Point is, there will be less forums on the new boards when it's all said and done. Things people are saying might make sense, if only they weren't the exact opposite of what's happening. Note the 24 point type announcements at the top of the board, if you haven't noticed them.

Nowhere does it mention the condesning of forums.

If you think the Rickshaw is where the "cool kids" hang out on the FoH boards, I can only assume you've never really read them. Moderating the trash to the rickshaw is the only thing that keeps those boards remotely worthwhile. There are actual WoW/EQ/MMO related topics in general, and dorks asking for CS site links and trying to figure out if Samus is a hermaphrodite in the rickshaw.

You miss the point, I said that you offer people the place to post stuff about Gokuu's sister, and whatnot, yet you're basically calling them stupid children at the same time.

Nowhere does it mention the condesning of forums.
Like I said... Read. p196.ezboard.com/fayonaer...5635.topic (http://p196.ezboard.com/fayonaerofrm1.showMessage?topicID=5635.topic)

You miss the point, I said that you offer people the place to post stuff about Gokuu's sister, and whatnot, yet you're basically calling them stupid children at the same time.
No one's judging.

In fact, you'd think people who are most interested in that stuff would be happy. We're giving them a place where they can enjoy their favorite part of the board, without the distraction of all those annoying threads that make sense...

http://iax.ath.cx/download/ar2.gif

No judgement at all, you should remember that from the current AR v2.0 boards.

*shrug* I hadn't even seen that till now. It did make me laugh though.

I think anyone that can handle posting fake homo-erotic jokes back and forth to each other in front of thousands of people, can handle that forum title. If not, this really is the least of their issues.

does that mean kiv or zehn is my daddy?

Yes, yes it does.

And ok Trikki, leavin ya alone. I was mainly using ya as an example, heh.

Well, I must say at least the people who complained about no good NAGs are being given a nice one here.

No Silentcerri.............

I am yo Daddy!!!! :hat


And Buzya is yo Momma!! He's got Man Titties!!! :rollin

Hey... being a "cool kid" is a compliment ffs. I thought I was being derogatory towards myself for calling myself a "parent".

But hey... I guess that if you have a twenty foot pole up your ass, it's gonna take a few weeks or so to get it out.

Give it time.

Heh, parent. I guess, after all, much like parents, we didn't get to choose you.

Fazin why do you have such a hard on for busting the balls of the mods? Since when did you start caring or even reading the boards? Start playing the game again if ya gonna spend so much time online trolling boards, ya spazzy goober.

:evil

I guess I find fun in the futile. I know I'll never bring about any changes.

As for playing, I imagine I'll be playing quite a bit again when Sarenu gets her internet setup. In the meantime I'm beta testing WoW, and enjoying it. Shit, they even added the ability to send mail to other players across the game.. and even include items in mail, and even do CoD with them heh. But yeah, I imagine I'll be playing again the second she gets her internet setup.. first I need to fix her computer however :/

Well hurry and get her computer up and running. We like having her around. I think you should join her too. Fugger. :x


:evil

Start playing the game again if ya gonna spend so much time online trolling boards,

Ooohhh. That's ironic. He doesn't even play EverQuest either.

I've logged on a few times in the last few months.... Define "play". I still know more about whats happening on the server then most who do play all the time. Interesting indeed your comment may be, but true to everything said, it's linked to it's origin. So the next time you do a handstand and flabber out whatever opinion you have, remember that it will still hold that idea true... meaning it's full of shit.

Wait, so now you don't have to play, but you do have to know what's going on? Does that mean someone in a lower level guild that doesn't care about the high end drama doesn't have the right to post here? Who exactly qualifies as "cool" enough to have an opinion, in your opinion? :lol

My point towards playing, or knowing anything about the social life of this server, was directed at how well the moderators can discern between the aformentioned, and random crap. Again, skewing the idea far enough from what it was...

Point is, you seem to see yourself as fit to judge. I know even if I was still playing, I wouldn't have known what was up with that post either.

Whether or not the staff plays x hours per week doesn't have much bearing on the fact that no one's going to know everything that's going on. I could post a fake screenshot of my guild's drama that a lot of people would get, but you wouldn't...

You could say that about any guild's internal issues. If it hadn't been a weak, passive-aggressive post in the middle of a bunch of spam, it wouldn't have been a problem either way.

With all the blame you're tossing around, I still haven't seen an explanation why you didn't let someone know, that it was a valid post right away; since it's such a critical problem.

Other than that one obscure post, where's your argument going? If you're just trying to be a griefer for no other purpose than to grief, say so.

First off, I never said I was "fit to judge" anything. I simply said I knew better, and found it entertaining... and then it was thrown in a group labeled as retarded. Secondly, I already stated that I know no change will come about, and I could care less honestly either way if change did come about.

You compared real life nag, and nag, and said that it was great that they were separated. It was great, and there is an easy defined line between the two. Now the mods (Kivorn more or less) have decided that NAG is changing it's policy regarding particular posts. Again I am not even fucking talking about the "PM ME" type threads, since I imagine you'll skew whatever I saw into some lame ass response involving that.

My beef is the holier than thou attitude that the mods have, and say they know better. The Tuatha thread proves that you don't, and you even said you won't, which is understandable, but still you claim you will know better. Trying to divert threads to their proper places when the crew is in no respect an expert on the manner is just as you label certain threads, "retarded". Even then, you think that creating a secondary forum for "the cool kids" to post in, is going to solve it? I'll give you a Nostradamus idea for you: it won't. That forum will only end up akin to FoH's retard rickshaw, a dumping grounds. People won't post in there, they will only post elsewhere hoping their thread does *not* end up there. Look at it currently, it's filled only with stuff worthy of NAG, and the posts dumped into it.

Honestly, you should just get rid of NAG, and the sandbox with EQ's current state. Any hate threads die out within a day now, and will just get pushed off the page in the general section.

I could post a fake screenshot of my guild's drama that a lot of people would get, but you wouldn't...
I'd still ask around, I live on information, and like to know stuff, but thats just me.

With all the blame you're tossing around, I still haven't seen an explanation why you didn't let someone know, that it was a valid post right away; since it's such a critical problem.
Don't confuse blame with an arguement that in the future such threads will end up where they don't belong because of ill knowledge.

Just a question, are we no longer fit to argue with you, because although we don't play (which is OK now) we don't actually know - like you do - what's going on with Ayonae Ro at the moment?

I'm confused.

Are you my father?

So wait.... should I not be posting here?!? I mean, I'm not in a high end guild, but I do play (too much if you ask my GF). :( I feel unloved and unwanted now, guess it's back to lurking in the shadows and just reading the drama. I'm not uber enough.

So what are the requirements to be able to post and read this forum anyway? I'm very confused.

Fazin, I think you're right that we won't see eye to eye on this right now. I don't mean to make it an adversarial situation, so I'll drop it.

IMO, us having a situation like you describe about the riskshaw would be a good compromise. That way we can keep the clutter out of some sections, without keeping people from continuing their conversations else where on split topics.

Either way, next time you see something that you think we did wrong (like the Tuatha thread), let me know right when you notice it and I'll fix it myself. If you aren't part of the solution... Alright?

Just a question, are we no longer fit to argue with you, because although we don't play (which is OK now) we don't actually know - like you do - what's going on with Ayonae Ro at the moment?

Really, if you don't understand my point, time and time again... don't respond to it?

But I have a lot of knowledge - even though I dont play - about the server.
Which technically means.. I can respond to it, no?
Is that the rules? I'm sure that was the rules. Maybe it got lost somewhere between your UTTER FUCKING BULLSHIT.

You're dried out kid. Dried out.

I have never seen so many children act so out of line merely because they are asked to act in a civil manner.

You have a damn forum of your own now children, use it so I don't have to see your thread titles, that are typed out in a rush to hope Daddy and Mum don't catch you using those naughty naughty words.

Kiv and the crew, keep up the good work.

Fandros

Halo, I was talking about the moderators knowing anything about whats happening on the server socially, and being able to discern between a real flame, and a worthless post. Not the normal person, and definately not you. Don't flatter yourself into thinking I even intended to talk about you. If you'd read what I have said, then you'd know.

Excuse me sir fazin, you WISH you could talk with halo. He is the most intelligent and one sided err two sided(!) poster this board has ever had.

I just wanted to have my playground shown to the community and instead I have caused a 8 page thread.

YOU'RE COOL! :|


and original...with your sig.... :rolleyes

hey i voted to let you have your own section to umm broker your goods !

:hat

If SoE legitimizes EBay like it seems they're thinking about, we'll drop the anti-EBay rule here too.

Don't flatter yourself into thinking I even intended to talk about you. If you'd read what I have said, then you'd know.

Are you... coming on to me?

That's so old now Halo... Come up with something new please.

I will when people... stop coming on to me.
*raises eyebrow*

ARE YOU COMING ON TO ME?!

Yeah pretty much nearly anything goes except for the 50% of content that people tried to have go on page 1 here that got taken off / deleted.

Maybe open another forum that can be called Nearly Anything Goes up to 60%? We can go from there and see if the world ends.

Down to 38.5% of nearly anything goes ont he first page. Including stickies.

Carry on.....

yesh we have a sandbox let this thread die and ummm halo we are coming on to you every yank here wants you I mean how could we not want you... you cute lil sheep you!

interesting, the "sheep" are less represented than the "informed individuals"