http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=a5qWDoyceuDI&refer=us

http://img42.exs.cx/img42/5192/bush5.gif

About 100,000 civilians have died as a result of the war in Iraq

That'll teach them to not love Freedom!

'That'll teach them to not love Freedom!'

- Best. Quote. Ever.

On a more central note, I sorta felt sick seeing the death toll. I honestly thought it was still around the 10 - 15, 000 mark.

100, 000?!?!

I wonder how long it takes them to define this as genocide. Oh wait, why would they. It's for the good of the world. And for the Iraqi people!

Not a WoMD to show for the entire fucking thing. Not that that would make it remarkably more excusable.

Other studies do show it to be around the 15000 mark.

Personally I really doubt the 100,000 figure. That would be one buttload of a lot of aircraft sorties even if you claim 30 people killed in each one (which is pretty unlikely).

I would guess an awful lot of them are accounted for by Iraqi on Iraqi violence as well. There were a lot of unsettled scores between the Shiites and Sunnis there as well and it's real easy to blame the deaths on the US.

I doubt anyone will ever get an accurate accounting.

And yet nobody cared when Rowanda (was what million+?) and other areas around the world get slaughtered. Guess if UN dont see and USA dont care it just dont happen.

And why yes I do feel free. Thanks for asking.

Actually Halo, you can find estimates anywhere from the 10k~150k depending on who you ask, and you'll still be able to find 'reputable' sources backing up each and every claim.

Unless your source is The Guardian, haha!

Anyways.

Carry on.

This reminds me of the "bombs of love" strip here: http://angryflower.com/bombso.html

it's real easy to blame the deaths on the US.

It's also quite fashionable.

http://www.tnr.com/blog/iraqd

' it's real easy to blame the deaths on the US.'

- To coin a popular American phrase, "well duh".

One would tend to blame an occupying army.

So, do you feel free?

Quite. Thanks for your concern.

One would tend to blame an occupying army

In that case I blame yours Halo.

So, do you feel free?
Very.

People can even make message board posts with childish animations belittling the most powerful man (puppet?) in the free world, without the slightest fear of repercussion. I don't know how you'd beat that anywhere else.

Sorry, I guess I need to explain the title.

It was not meant as a rhetorical question to you, although some people have such a selfcentric view of the universe that to understand that is a leap. The question was a rhetorical question that one might ask an Iraqi.
So to dumb down the post title.

So, do you think they feel free?

btw, that isnt a doctored video of Bush, it is an out-take of him actually flipping the bird in the early 80s. Any belittling was self inflicted
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2654327?ifilmp=99

btw, that isnt a doctored video of Bush, it is an out-take of him actually flipping the bird in the early 80s. Any belittling was self inflicted
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2654327?ifilmp=99
I didn't say it was fake.

And I just watched the full video from that link. That was awesome.

I checked out this report earlier today and think it needs reproduction by another team of investigators. The original group noted some reasons that might account for inflated numbers (such as their staff culling data from areas of Baghdad that suffered particularly high losses); this doesn't mean the numbers are exaggerated, but that high a figure demands a recount, so to speak. What the study does do is give us reason to believe casualties are much higher than previously estimated, but the results need verification.

and it's real easy to blame the deaths on the US.

Probably because of the whole invading the country the country and toppling the goverment without a good postwar plan thingy.

I don't say this too often,but Bush gets 2 thumbs up for that video.

'In that case I blame yours Halo.'

- With good cause, though we tend to have the South of Iraq pretty nailed down. Been a while since we flew gunship sorties across Basra.
But I'm sure we'll manage to live up to an American rep, now that the Black Watch have been called in to the towns near South Baghdad.

From the interviews I have heard with Iraqis and firsthand reports of people there I would say unequivocally Iraqis feel more free now than at any time under Saddam.

offtopic:

I but that high a figure demands a recount, .
get familiar with the most commonly used word in the upcoming weeks ;)

btw, that isnt a doctored video of Bush, it is an out-take of him actually flipping the bird in the early 80s. Any belittling was self inflicted
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2654327?ifilmp=99
How does that video belittle anyone? I guess you've never given anyone the finger? Hell I gave someone the bird this morning on the way to work.

I swear - if someone could get a recording of President Bush farting on the toilet someone would paste it all over the net "Listen to Bush fart on the toilet! Hes unfit to be President!"

I swear - if someone could get a recording of President Bush farting on the toilet someone would paste it all over the net
That isn't the point....

Hes unfit to be President!
That is.

Don't get me wrong...I don't like Kerry. I think he's a very weak alternative to a wholey disgusting individual. The better of two evils.

I didn't say it was fake.

Animation: "The act, process, or result of imparting life, interest, spirit, motion, or activity." In essence, to give life to something that prior did not have life, such as taking a series of frames, arranging them, and playing them back where through the utilization of persistance of memory the object seems to move.

Using the term animation, as opposed to video, was you suggesting it was fake. Can't really go back on that one now.

That's funny, because of the info my friends and family serving over in Iraq is quite contrary L2.

The picture painted by the media is FAR from accurate. Especially if you include the news from the original 3 networks. VERY VERY BIASED...

Fandros

Animation: "The act, process, or result of imparting life, interest, spirit, motion, or activity." In essence, to give life to something that prior did not have life, such as taking a series of frames, arranging them, and playing them back where through the utilization of persistance of memory the object seems to move.

Using the term animation, as opposed to video, was you suggesting it was fake. Can't really go back on that one now.
You've gotta be kidding me.

It's a GIF animation. I called it an animation. What should I call it? A pink moving palm tree picture?

NEWS FLASH: That isn't really Dubya in your computer screen there.. It's not real. It's what we edumacated types like to call an animation sometimes.

sanchek, i smelled alot of sarcasm in his post

I wonder how long it takes them to define this as genocide. Oh wait, why would they. It's for the good of the world. And for the Iraqi people!
Good job Halo. Way to grab the bull by the horns..


http://home.comcast.net/~lightloch/Bull1.jpg

:mad:

Yegods, that looks enjoyable.

'From the interviews I have heard with Iraqis and firsthand reports of people there I would say unequivocally Iraqis feel more free now than at any time under Saddam.'

- Just curious, how free did the tens of thousands of dead people think they were?

Just curious, how free did the tens of thousands of dead people think they were?

Free enough to know better than to mess twice with Texas.

The truth is, the numbers are exceptionally high but...if it's more accurate than the conservative figure of 10-15 thousand, that's really frightening.

Looks like I caught a big one! :)

Good job Halo. Way to grab the bull by the horns..

<insert painful picture here>




OUCH!

Oooh... are we going to start pulling out 'owned' pictures now or something?