Yeah, so I'm pro *legal* immigration but, Fuck this (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12520667/)
This has to be more idiotic than the guys waving Mexican flags at their rallies last month.

Edit: Apparently they've changed the words too, too violent for their tastes.

Well here in Ogden 47% of our schools populace is hispanic with slightly over 1/2 of those legal.

The town is becoming a lil gang banger paradise and I wonder if they're going to take the day off from gang banging on May 1st!!!!

Wow, a day where you can walk down to the corner of Monroe and 25th streets at night without worrying!!!

Sorry, my vision is one of giving them a chance to get legal through and through...

Sign'em up on the dotted line within 30 days of enacted legislation and after that if they fail to stay legal..

Ship'em out

Fandros

That is fucking retarded (pardon my French). This is getting ridiculous.

No No No NO!!!!!
You have to respect diversity in this day and age. Making people sing the National Anthem in English is oppressive, and narrowminded.
We should embrace multicuturalism, and the watering down of this "great nation"

If anyone watches "Mind of Mencia" on Comedy Central, he had a comedian on there who was Native American.
His perspective? Everyone here is a wetback!!!!
I almost pissed myself! Now THAT'S comedy!

It is not racist for a nation to want to preserve its identity, although its very likely the US will eventually become a bi-lingual nation with such a large population who choose spanish as their primary language, similiar to the majority of the rest of the world having multiple languages as "official" tongues. The spanish speaking population yield a fairly substantial vote and garner a large chunk of the market compared to most "miniorities". The market will accomedate them as such. To do business in any city that has a high hispanic concentration requires fluent spanish as it is. When it comes to business, money and politics in a capitalist nation, all three go hand in hand and ultimately money always talks.

This is a trend not likely to change, since the US is still such a young nation, has so much more room to grow geographically and offers so much opportunity as compared to more established and homogenous cultures such as Japan. Compared to Japan, the US really has no defining culture to speak of. So who is really right to say that the identy of the country is really even being damaged, when the US has always suffered an identy crisis of sorts. Its what happens when the main identy that the US might actually be able to cling to is "A Nation of Immigrants". Whatever culture the immigrants bring is what the US assimulates.

Since they are the largest immigrant demographic, to kick out all the hispanics would damage the economy. To not allow them some concessions towards a group that is now big enough to swing policy in a country that is very much voting deadlock on alot of issues is political and economic suicide. Hispanics tend to sit on both sides of the fence, in that they tend to see positives in the more conservative religious aspects of the Republicans but also gain benifit from the social programs offered by Democrats. Both parties will covet the Hispanice vote. Granted, the illegals can't vote, but their legal resident relatives do, and blood is thicker than water. They will put what is in the best interests of their families first, just like any other human being.

So is the nation's anthem in spanish a right thing? No.

Its not wrong either. Its how our system works. If you want to change it, than go vote. The Hispanics certainly will.

Edit: Apparently they've changed the words too, too violent for their tastes.Did they change the music, too, or is it still sung to the tune of To Anacreon of Heaven (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Anacreon_in_Heaven)?

<GASP>

I, I, I almost found myself feeling proud of Dubya, when I saw and heard him saying "The anthem should be sung in english, and if they are going to come to our country to live they should learn how to speak it." (May not be an exact quote, but you get the gist)

Had to lie down and put a cold cloth on the forehead.......we agree on something.......no frogs raining down or swarms of locusts yet, but I am keeping watch:eek:

<GASP>

I, I, I almost found myself feeling proud of Dubya, when I saw and heard him saying "The anthem should be sung in english, and if they are going to come to our country to live they should learn how to speak it." (May not be an exact quote, but you get the gist)

Had to lie down and put a cold cloth on the forehead.......we agree on something.......no frogs raining down or swarms of locusts yet, but I am keeping watch:eek:

"I think people who want to be a citizen of this country ought to learn English and they ought to learn to sing the national anthem in English."

I could not agree with him more!!!

Here in Canada our national anthem can be sung in English and in French.

/shrug

No real big deal to be honest. I mean, as long as everyone is on the same side, dedicated to the same ideal, it's all cool right?

A nations anthem is to inspire it's citizens, to allow them to take pride in their country. What good is an anthem, if someone is singing it in a language they don't understand? If you can't understand an ideal, then how can you dedicate yourself to it?

No real big deal to be honest. I mean, as long as everyone is on the same side, dedicated to the same ideal, it's all cool right?

A nations anthem is to inspire it's citizens, to allow them to take pride in their country. What good is an anthem, if someone is singing it in a language they don't understand? If you can't understand an ideal, then how can you dedicate yourself to it?

The problem I see here, at least in my area is that the mexican immigrants(I obviously can't tell from looking at them whether they are legal or illegal) aren't on the same side. Most of the vehicles I see driven by Mexican's have Mexican flags on them, stickers from whatever mexican state they are from on them. They aren't interested in being Americans, they are just interested abusing the system here. Yes, this is a vast generalization, but it's coming from my own personal experience that the majority of the Mexicans that I see or meet don't have any interest in taking pride in this country.

For the first several days of the protests we saw a few weeks ago, we all saw the Mexican's waving Mexican flags while protesting American immigration policy. This didn't change until their community leaders told them how assinine it was to do that and counter productive to what their desires were. It seemed like the majority of those protesting didn't want to be Americans, they just wanted to have the benefits of living here.

Why dont we just assimilate mexico we could always use the land... hey if there government is helping there people get into America illegaly then they probably have nothing against being assimilated!

But then they would lose their national identity!

Seriously, if we did that, or even if they move to legalize those already here, the cheap labor pool for those businesses using them will dry up in a few years, as the now citizen workers will start to demand better wages and treatment, without any leverage over them to tow the line.

Carlos Mencia transcript
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Cause they're out there protesting and I heard this one lady, she got all mad.

(In a whiny voice) "I don't understand how come the American people are not treating us like Americans."

Um, Maybe it's the...flag you're holding! Mexico! Why would you hold a Mexican flag when you're trying to tell America that you love this country? That's like coming to my house, taking a (crap) on my table and saying, "What are you going to cook next?" Nothing!

..My dad's from Honduras and my mom's from Mexico and all they ever said was how beautiful Mexico is. What a paradise Honduras is. You know what I mean?

"...Mexico is better (than the United States)."

And I would be like, "Then why don't you go back?"

"Well, it's a very technical situation."

It's not a very technical situation. If you go back to Mexico, it's not like there's a border patrol on that side going,

"Hey hey, where are joo going?"

...There's not even any Mexicans left over there. Have you been to Mexico lately? ...Everyone is from Guatemala and El Salvador there. It's like all the Mexicans came here, then there was nothing there, and they were like, "Well, let's move up a little bit."

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http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/mind_of_mencia/Episodes/season_2/204.jhtml

click on the Immigration button if you want to see the video instead.

The problem I see here, at least in my area is that the mexican immigrants(I obviously can't tell from looking at them whether they are legal or illegal) aren't on the same side. Most of the vehicles I see driven by Mexican's have Mexican flags on them, stickers from whatever mexican state they are from on them. They aren't interested in being Americans, they are just interested abusing the system here. Yes, this is a vast generalization, but it's coming from my own personal experience that the majority of the Mexicans that I see or meet don't have any interest in taking pride in this country.My guess is that they aren't the ones singing the anthem in any language. I take Binuven's view. I'm not pissy at deaf-mutes for signing. If the people doing the singing are singing for the right reasons, then it's all the same to me. Words don't count for much; it's the thought behind them. Rather than detract from those singing in Spanish, I'll just laud those who learn the English.

Here in Britain, one of the older nations of the world, you can hear English, Welsh, forms of Scottish gaelic and Irish. Flags, anthems, and songs come in all languages and in all respects and perspectives.

We're all still British, but to preserve distinct and individual cultures is usually quite important here.
A popular Irish, Scottish, Welsh and English song is still:

O'er the Hills and O'er the main,
Through Flanders, Portugal and Spain,
King George commands and we obey;
O'er the Hills and Far Away.

Especially in the British army, and among the Highland units.
In other words - one dominant culture, implemented officially over many cultures and languages, is never usually a good thing.

For pitty's sake, what's wrong with the anthem sung in the second most popular language of your country?

For pitty's sake, what's wrong with the anthem sung in the second most popular language of your country?

Nuthin'. It just not the way it's been. I don't think there's ever been a race of people that's come to the pot and wanted to retain their diversity and ethnic origion.

I mean, when the Italians came, they didn't talk about home. They didn't wave the Italian flag. Heck, they just painted it all over everything they owned.

Then there's the Irish. They didn't really care to retain any of their ethnicity. They just got a day named after a saint, got drunk and settled in.

The Germans, they just hid like mu'fuggas. Nobody wants a Nazi next door. "We're Rooskies! And these? Hot dogs...yah!"

I think the Mexican thing will smooth out eventually. As long as they are willing to play by the rules, pay taxes and provide positive influences on society.

If not, fuggeddaboudit.

most ethnic groups in the past have wanted to come to America to be part of the Nation.
In the past, it was understood, that if you wanted to be successful, you had to learn the language, customs, and the Culture of the U.S.
Now, because of muticuturalism, immigrants have the idea that they can bring their homeland with them, and not Mix in with the "Great Amreican Melting Pot"
Remember the Schoolhouse Rock Cartoons?
http://www.school-house-rock.com/Grea.html

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/01/immigrant.day/index.html


Immigrant Day?

4.9% of the workforce, but their lack of participation is going to deadlock us?

No big walk-outs in Capital of Iowa and we have a huge Immigrant population

Everyone head to your local store and buy your groceries for teh week, buy a pizza buy take out , go buy that gaming system you have been wanting! Vive LA Resistance!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/01/dobbs.immigrantprotests/index.html

Interesting fact in this article. Says something to the effect that in 1980 a meat packing job paid close to 19 bucks a hour. Today, due to cheap illegal labor, the same job pays 9 bucks a hour...

Fandros

No big walk-outs in Capital of Iowa and we have a huge Immigrant population

Everyone head to your local store and buy your groceries for teh week, buy a pizza buy take out , go buy that gaming system you have been wanting! Vive LA Resistance!

Heh, I'm planning on going shopping today in hopes that none of the illegals are working today, because now maybe I can get an answer in english =\

Heh, I'm planning on going shopping today in hopes that none of the illegals are working today, because now maybe I can get an answer in english =\

In all honesty, there has been an upside in my area as a result of the increasing immigrant population, and that is less eating at fast food spots.
I no longer will patronize an establishment where I have to take the person waiting on me through an English language course before I can get my meal, and that covers most of the local fast food places.


Cashier: Can I help you?

Me: Yes, 2 bacon double-cheeseburgers, a large fries and a chocolate shake.

Cashier: 2 cheeseburgers, 2 fries and 2 shakes.

Me: No. I said 2 bacon double cheeseburgers, one large fry and one large chocolate shake.

Cashier: You said 2 first.

Me: I only said 2 bacon double cheeseburgers. I did not say 2 fries or 2 shakes.

Cahsier: Oh. Okay. Can I take your order?

Says something to the effect that in 1980 a meat packing job paid close to 19 bucks a hour. Today, due to cheap illegal labor, the same job pays 9 bucks a hour...
Hmm, so paying foreign persons half the rate that would be paid to American citizens is only a good thing when they reside outside the country (e.g., India, China, random atoll)? I wonder if the $19/hr workers were unionized..

$19 is a hell of a lot of money, especially in 1980; today's equivalent would be $35 an hour (going by the CPI). I suspect they're now paying $9 an hour because it doesn't make sense to pay a meat packer 70 grand a year. =p

No offence Rol but fuck you.

Before i swapped to my current line of work i spent 6 or 7 years in the meat biz.
I still thank the good gods I was out delivering the day that poor SOB ripped his right arm off in the grinder.
Yea , that kinda risk is only worth 9 dollars an hour. I only worked in federal HRI facilities ( hotel, restaraunt, institutional) and not the kill and cut places that are now over run with illegal and undocumented. wich are even more dangerous places.
yea i still have all my fingers, but i definately sport some very nasty looking "trophies" as a reminder of my time in that industry.
As far back as 87-89 I was seeing alot folks moving from the yakima/ellensberg area here in WA state to the puget sound area because they got sick of seeing thier decent paying jobs going bye-bye and given to illegals willing to work for shit wages.back then it was 5 an hour they where getting. pretty nifty that whole .20 a year in wage growth! (this is where Akipt will find some dumb ass link pointing to fact that .20 cents is roughly double that we gave the chinese immigratnts in 1880 who built the railroads).
Folks i've been watching this trend to immigrant labor go on for around 20 years now, and it's been getting worse all the time, was in the 80's meat and landscaping. early 90's drywall and roofing. mid 90's started bieng fast food.
Just wait, your industry is next.

'I suspect they're now paying $9 an hour because it doesn't make sense to pay a meat packer 70 grand a year. =p'

- I wondered whether or not I was the only other person thinking that.

Hmm, so paying foreign persons half the rate that would be paid to American citizens is only a good thing when they reside outside the country (e.g., India, China, random atoll)? I wonder if the $19/hr workers were unionized..

Unions are just another way for people to make $$$ w/o working.
Pyramid schemes are illegal, so why are unions legal?
And I'd say it was better for them. At least the $9/hr would buy more outside the U.S. than inside the U.S.

Unions have their place. Like all things good though, anything in excess is harmful. When unions become as bad or even worse than what they're protecting their members from, what's the point?

No offence Rol but fuck you.

No offense, but you're a stupid whore and your mother sucks dicks in hell.

DONT GET MAD THOUGH!!111 I SAID NO OFFENSE!11

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2f/Cowbell2.gif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Cowbell2.gif)

MORE COWBELL!!!!!!!!

Great response to the Union thing Akipt...like anything else there are bad unions and good unions just like there are bad politicians and...wait...bad example. :)

Here in Britain, one of the older nations of the world, you can hear English, Welsh, forms of Scottish gaelic and Irish. Flags, anthems, and songs come in all languages and in all respects and perspectives.

I had to laugh given the best way to get a rise out of the otherwise totally calm Irish guy I work with is to call him English. You'd think you punched him in the babymaker he turns so red.

In any event, after the massive and painful devaluation of the dollar and subsequent depression when reality comes crashing down on the house of jokers that is the US economy, Mexican immigration will stop being a problem. Given the rate of default on interest-conversion loans, that may happen a lot sooner than even the most pessimistic want to say.

Hey guess what Fuck you too 'Wien!!

Now $70 grand a year?? funny how guys can sit here and Google every word Sixee posts but no can work a calculator.
$19 an hour = $39,520 a year, thats pre-tax and assuming you take 0 days off.
$9 an hour = 18,720 a year. propably about $ 14 grand total cash after taxes. but yea thats fair compensation to stand on the line risking loss of a limb or death for 10 hours every day.
So you thinks thats good pay for ol'Paco trying to support a wife and 2 kid's?
of course you'll be more than oppossed to Paco seeking medical assistance or maybe food stamp help and say hey go get a job! but see Paco has a job in an industry thats seen it's workers wages shrink by over 50% while the end consumer prices have more than tripled in the last decade.
but hey i guess those union things really are nothing but "pyramid scams".
I'm not an economist but i bet there has be a fancy term for a trend like that, me i'll settle for Hoodwinked.

$19 is a hell of a lot of money, especially in 1980; today's equivalent would be $35 an hour (going by the CPI). I suspect they're now paying $9 an hour because it doesn't make sense to pay a meat packer 70 grand a year. =p

I know it's difficult, but try to pay attention. He's saying 19 dollars an hour (which you are correct, is something like 39 grand a year) would be equal to about 35 dollars an hour NOW, going by the CPI. Comprende? 19 dollars in 1980 = 35 dollars now. Ok?

That being said, while it may be dangerous work, 70 grand a year dangerous?

Meh, your average soldier gets payed 40k a year when deployed to have people actively try to kill them.

So no, I dont think 70 a year is fair, 35 sure but 70? holy shit

funny how guys can sit here and Google every word Sixee posts but no can work a calculator.

To be fair i had just read that article like 2 weeks ago researching something so that is how i noticed Sixee's


To me Unions belong with Affirmative Action and Electoral college, they had a GREAT purpose once, but society has out grown the need for it. I am though about as anti-union as humanly possible.

Velvet, I wasn't trying to snub my nose at meat packers, or say they're not worthy of that much money; that's a completely different debate. I only mean that it doesn't make sense for a meat packing company to pay $70 grand a year per worker because it doesn't make sense to pay $20 for a hamburger (unless it's a really good and/or large hamburger).

unless it's a really good and/or large hamburger

I'll take a 5 pounder with cheese to go please!!

Nice letter Snopes says is real:

Dear Senator Frist:

There is a huge amount of propaganda and myths circulating about illegal aliens, particularly illegal Mexican, Salvadorian, Guatemalan and Honduran aliens.

1. Illegal aliens generally do NOT want U.S. citizenship. Americans are very vain thinking that everybody in the world wants to be a U.S. citizen. Mexicans, and other nationalities want to remain citizens of their home countries while obtaining the benefits offered by the United States such as employment, medical care, in-state tuition, government subsidized housing and free education for their offspring. Their main attraction is employment and their loyalty usually remains at home. They want benefits earned and subsidized by middle class Americans. What illegal aliens want are benefits of American residence without paying the price.

2. There are no jobs that Americans won't do. Illegal aliens are doing jobs that Americans can't take and still support their families. Illegal aliens take low wage jobs, live dozens in a single residence home, share expenses and send money to their home country. There are no jobs that Americans won't do for a decent wage.

3. Every person who illegally entered this nation left a home. They are NOT homeless and they are NOT Americans. Some left jobs in their home countries. They come to send money to their real home as evidenced by the more than 20 billion dollars sent out of the country each year by illegal aliens. These illegal aliens knowingly and willfully entered this nation in violation of the law and therefore assumed the risk of detection and deportation. Those who brought their alien children assumed the responsibility and risk on behalf of their children.

4. Illegal aliens are NOT critical to the economy. Illegal aliens constitute less than 5% of the workforce. However, they reduce wages and benefits for lawful U.S. residents.

5. This is NOT an immigrant nation. There are 280 million native born Americans. While it is true that this nation was settled and founded by immigrants (legal immigrants), it is also true that there is not a nation on this planet that was not settled by immigrants at one time or another.

6. The United States is welcoming to legal immigrants. Illegal aliens are not immigrants by definition. The U.S. accepts more lawful immigrants every year than the rest of the world combined.

7. There is no such thing as the "Hispanic vote". Hispanics are white, brown, black and every shade in between. Hispanics are Repu blicans, Democrats, Anarchists, Communists, Marxists and Independents. The so-called "Hispanic vote" is a myth. Pandering to illegal aliens to get the Hispanic vote is a dead end.

8. Mexico is NOT a friend of the United States. Since 1848 Mexicans have resented the United States. During World War I Mexico allowed German Spies to operate freely in Mexico to spy on the U.S. During World War II Mexico allowed the Axis powers to spy on the U.S. from Mexico. During the Cold War Mexico allowed spies hostile to the U.S. to operate freely. The attack on the Twin Towers in 2001 was cheered and applauded all across Mexico. Today Mexican school children are taught that the U.S. stole California, Arizona, new Mexico and Texas. If you don't believe it, check out some Mexican textbooks written for their schoolchildren.

9. Although some illegal aliens enter this country for a better life, there are 6 billion people on this planet. At least 1 billion of those live on less than one dollar a day. If wanting a better life is a valid excuse to break the law and sneak into America, then let's allow those one billion to come to America and we'll turn the USA into a Third World nation overnight. Besides, there are 280 million native born Americans who want a better life. I'll bet Bill Gates and Donald Trump want a better life. When will the USA lifeboat be full? Since when is wanting a better life a good reason to trash another nation?

10. There is a labor shortage in this country. This is a lie. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of American housewives, senior citizens, students, unemployed and underemployed who would gladly take jobs at a decent wage.

11. It is racist to want secure borders. What is racist about wanting secure borders and a secure America? What is racist about not wanting people to sneak into America and steal benefits we have set aside for legal aliens, senior citizens, children and other legal residents? What is it about race that entitles people to violate our laws, steal identities, and take the American Dream without paying the price?

For about four decades American politicians have refused to secure our borders and look after the welfare of middle class Americans. These politicians have been of both parties. A huge debt to American society has resulted. This debt will be satisfied and the interest will be high. There has already been riots in the streets by illegal aliens and their supporters. There will be more. You, as a politician, have a choice to offend the illegal aliens who have stolen into this country and demanded the rights afforded to U.S. citizens or to offend those of us who are stakeholders in this country. The interest will be steep either way. There will be civil unrest. There will be a reckoning. Do you have the courage to do what is right for America? Or, will you bow to the wants and needs of those who don't even have the right to remain here?

There will be a reckoning. It will come in November of this year, again in 2008 and yet again in 2010.

We will not allow America to be stolen by third world agitators and thieves.

David J. Stoddard
U.S. Border Patrol (RET)
Hereford, Arizona

Who could possibly argue with such a well-researched position?

I know a lot of people, including the President (now, anyway), don't want to sing our national anthem in Spanish, but in case you do lyrics are conveniently located here (http://usinfo.state.gov/esp/home/topics/us_society_values/national_symbols/anthem_spanish.html).

someone sent me these today...


Asked her opinion on Wednesday in an interview with CNN's John King, Mrs. Bush said, "I don't think there's anything wrong with singing it in Spanish."







Seventy-three percent of Americans say that immigration is a serious problem.

The other twenty-seven percent said :

'No habla Ingles'

Full transcript (emphasis mine):
KING: One of the debates in the country right now is about immigration reform, illegal immigration. One of the controversies is this new Spanish language version of the national anthem. Your husband the president says he thinks it should only be in English. But if you go to the state department website you can find it, I think, in four languages. Secretary Rice says she’s heard rap versions.

MRS. BUSH: Well, we’ve all heard different versions like at the Super Bowl every year. I don’t think there is anything wrong with singing it in Spanish. The point is it’s the United States national anthem and what people want is it to be sung in a way that respects the United States and our culture. At the same time, we are a nation of immigrants. We are a nation of many, many languages, because immigrants come and bring their languages.

KING: Is that an issue you disagree with your husband? He says it should be sung in English.

MRS. BUSH: I think it should be sung in English, of course.

Interesting Laura lol.

Well, we’ve all heard different versions like at the Super Bowl every year.

What different version do we sing at the super bowl?

Anyone see the article in the paper regarding the US Bureau of Education giving authorization in 1919 for a Spanish translation of the Star Spangled Banner?

Was in today's Pioneer Press.

Am I the only one that reads Laura's comments as saying that she thinks it should be sung in English, but doesn't think we should stop anyone from singing it in Spanish either? That seems clear.

I saw that, too, Byl.

It could be read that way, San, but given the conniption over the singing of the anthem in Spanish, the well-regarded First Lady would do the nation a favor by clarifying her position.

<GASP>

I, I, I almost found myself feeling proud of Dubya, when I saw and heard him saying "The anthem should be sung in english, and if they are going to come to our country to live they should learn how to speak it." (May not be an exact quote, but you get the gist)

But it was ok when he sang the National Anthem in Spanish when he was sucking up to the Spanish vote for the election in 2000?

Would a Navajo version of the National Anthem be shunned?

I believe the liberty was taken to change the lyrics for the new Spanish version. I do think that's where alot of folks take umbrage.

Fandros

According To http://babelfish.altavista.com/ This is the Star Spangled Banner Translated to Spanish:


¿Opinión de O, puede usted ver, por la luz temprana del amanecer, qué tan orgulloso nosotros hail'd en destellar pasado del crepúsculo? ¿De quién amplias rayas y estrellas brillantes, thro ' la lucha peligrosa, O'er los terraplenes watch'd, tan galantemente fluÃ*amos? Y el fulgor rojo de los cohetes, las bombas que estallaban en aire, dio a thro de la prueba ' la noche que nuestra bandera todavÃ*a estaba allÃ*. ¿Opinión de O, esa bandera estrella-star-spangled todavÃ*a agita O'er la tierra del libre y el hogar del valiente?

But This is the Version that NPR says is being touted:
"It's sunrise. Do you see by the light of the dawn

What we proudly hailed last nightfall?

Its stars, its stripes

yesterday streamed

above fierce combat

a symbol of victory

the glory of battle, the march toward liberty.

Throughout the night, they proclaimed: "We will defend it!"

Chorus

Tell me! Does its starry beauty still wave

above the land of the free,

the sacred flag?

Verse 2

Its stars, its stripes,

liberty, we are equals.

We are brothers in our anthem.

In fierce combat, a symbol of victory

the glory of battle,

(My people fight on)

the march toward liberty.

(The time has come to break the chains.)

Throughout the night they proclaimed: "We will defend it!"

Tell me! Does its starry beauty still wave

above the land of the free,

the sacred flag?"

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5369145

While the message is the same, I think the Anthem should be sung in English.