Well there we were, VA on another ST key kill. When along comes a tell from Spiriter, who would like to join the raid because he has never been on a dragon raid. Well being the nice guy that i am, I say sure why not.

This is a warning to all out there that encounter this guy. I wa nice enough to include him in the raid because i know that i was once in awe of the raids and i once wanted to join in on them in much the same way. He joined, was given a group and saw the raid through to the end.

After Klandicar went down, Spiriter says "Bye all thanks i had fun" to which everyone says goodbye. I then proceed to award the key to one of our members who then goes to loot it, but wait, there is no corpse. Spiriter had looted the key and removed himself from norrath.

Now likely this is as much my fault as any for not having the corpse locked until the key was looted. But i was in the middle of looting my own corpse and having a good amount of trust in my fellow guildmates i left it for a moment to grab my own gear.

Note to those of you who are asked by this individual, He WILL ninja you if given a chance. He is a member of a guild called Riders of Dragon's Wright, a guild i have not heard of until today. I think it likely this guy doesnt even know what it is he took, just a fancy neck piece.

Heruu Macar
Druid Class Leader
Vallis Aspecuts

im pretty sure he does know what he took

spiriter is an alt, i think deadlyblade, sangan, or some ogre warrior in RiP knows who he is, or is their alt. i forget..

why did u let him join the raiD? let him tag along but NEVER let him join the raid!!

Yeah that was definately a mistake on my part. My reasoning behind it is that if he is going to be there i want him to be able to hear instructions and not be in the way for lack of communication...

Oh well, we all learn...

did anyone see him loot it? Did you contact a GM? I am just curious,because you are stating that he Ninjad it cause he left and logged and the corpse was gone. I am not trying to refute what you are saying,but your "evidence" is circumstantial.

True it is circumstantial, however, there were 19 people in the raid, all in the same vicinity, i saw no loot message, no other players around and he didnt have time to run to the zone or anywhere from the klandi rock. A little more then suspisious. I would have had a harder time believeing it was him had he stayed online.

Report it to GM and let them handle it, easy

let them handle it, easy

you mean have someone else tell you there is nothing u can do about it? yeah thats great.

Really it depends on the GM that answers some will help you others are just stupid

This situation would be moved up to a GM, guides are about useless THOSE are the ones that usually give you the sorry your SOL answers

Brioma:<!--EZCODE LIST START--><ul><li>Confirmed Spiriter looted</li><li>Removed his talisman</li><li>Put item in inventory of our member</li></ul><!--EZCODE LIST END-->End issue.

His guildleader has been informed.

It was listed at 130k in the bazaar earlier, but it's been handled. Brioma is teh bomb.

The key in Bazaar (a) isn't a Klandicar's Talisman, because Klandicar's Talismans aren't droppable, only Zlandicar's Talismans are, and (b) has been there for about a week, starting at 150k, and going to 129k earlier in the week.

They sell when they hit about 95k. [We still use 'em to outfit our newer members to a raid-worthy level.]

I would like to Apologize to the guild mentioned, Riders of Dragon's Wright should not have been mentioned.

The matter has in fact been taken care of and the talisman returned to the person it was awarded to.

My apologies to the Riders, and my thanks to Brioma.

Doesn't matter who wasn't supposed to me mentioned.. they got a lot of shit today for this and that wasn't cool..

Not that I had much respect for VA before.. but its gone now..

Grats

I shall ever aspire to be just like you, maybe one day i will know what it is like to NOT make mistakes...

/bow

Doesn't matter who wasn't supposed to me mentioned.. they got a lot of shit today for this and that wasn't cool..

Not that I had much respect for VA before.. but its gone now..


Yeah, because guilds should not be held accountable for their members or anything...

And why apologize for mentioning their guild? He was a member of the guild and he ninja-looted something. When's the last time you heard of an <Eternal Wrath> member ninja-looting something? If you tag dumbasses then it is going to rub off on your guild, whether you want it to or not.

One more thing...

Doesn't matter who wasn't supposed to me mentioned.. they got a lot of shit today for this and that wasn't cool..

Not that I had much respect for VA before.. but its gone now..

Grats

I would like to point out something, When pointing out the meaning of what you posted that would read something like

"I can't believe you condemned a guild for the actions of one guy... /whine I hate your guild...

Nice =) Work on that for me...

yay burn baby burn!!

The irony of losing respect for an entire guild, becuse they pointed out the guild-name of someone who stole from them, because it was wrong to blame the entire guild is simply beautiful.

lol, i was thinkin the same thing palimax.

Nice call Palimax. Irony indeed:lol

Always smile when seeing the pot call the kettle black.

I wasn't saying that I lost respect for VA because of their opinion of Spiriters guild.. but their actions today.. in a certain zone.. the stupid, childish things they said in /say were definately worth my new opinion of VA.

I wasn't saying that I lost respect for VA because of their opinion of Spiriters guild.. but their actions today.. in a certain zone.. the stupid, childish things they said in /say were definately worth my new opinion of VA.You know, that one guy, who did that one thing, in that one zone.... .....yeah, *that's* what I hate.

Oh please.

You know, I don't feel I need to explain things further.. especially not to someone who is in VA. Its it my opinion, take it or leave it.

thats such a message board copout.

The guy is scum, any guild that keeps him is scum. You are what you eat, and you are what you associate with.

Not that I had much respect for VA before.. but its gone now..

Hehe, well we all know what I think about VC in general, so this gets a great big /SHRUG from me.

Was a truely honest mistake and ever bit of it is explainable withthe truth. You want the details; contact me in game. I will not rant and rave with people on these boards over something that is something totally missunderstood for what it truely was.

The situation has reached a resolution and the item is in the hands of the deserving person.

Spiriter-

PS. to the guy who talked about sangan and an oger war etc etc... those are not my chars. Simply friends of my roomate, nothing more. Spiriter is my main char.

PS 2 I already know that the tread will continue after this, most of it means nothing to me. I just find it sad how a guy can work so hard for so long to make a great name for himself and with a single miss understanding it can all be taken away from him, not only that but his new guild brought into it as well. They had nothing to do with it at any point.

To loot an item you must 1) "open" the body 2) right click (not click and hold for inspect)for fast loot or left click and drag and drop.

So said ranger left the raid...went up to the body...opened it, looted the item and then logged....sure it was all accidental...btw anyone interested in a time shard on a lake in 29 Palms?

grrr damn no edit meant time SHARE

I just find it sad how a guy can work so hard for so long to make a great name for himself and with a single miss understanding it can all be taken away from him, not only that but his new guild brought into it as well.
Why not clean again your reputation and explain the board lurkers we are what was that misunderstanding?

For myself I won't ask you in game what is the "truth" (I could care less), and I guess many posters here won't as well.
But whatever you did or did not, for many you are now a ninja looter. And if you care for your "great name", my advice who be to clean it with the mass.

Even with an explanation there are those doubtful people who still not beleive me, however here in my explanation.

I was in WW attempting to gather some peeps up to help me with the bracer of bevolance quest. I started noticing a large amount of people come into the zone so I started asking around if some of them could help me kill the captian really fast. They declined but told me to ask the dru if I could join the raid. Found out they were killing a dragon in this zone which I've never done before. He decided to let me in. In the middle of preperation my GF needed me to help her out. I told her 5 mins. I was buffless and so I began asking a shaman present for a few buffs. I hadn't gotten any responce and they started to engage the target just then. I looked up on alla with what he drops, I seen a neck item and it was a deffinate upgrade to what I currently had. I proceeded to ask the shaman if I could loot upon the death of the dragon. The dragon then falls, they link the items, I then recieve a responce from the shaman saying "aye, come and get it" By now the GFs on me to log, I told everyone thank you for everything. Disbanded the raid and since I wasn't Kos I had no worries of camping a few feet away. I looted the fancy neck item thinking sweet I can give my current neck item to my alt now. Camped out cause of GF and that was that. After awhile I had some time to look up the neck item once again and noticed it was for the ST key. Even better yet I thought but not useful to me what so ever because I knew I'd get whomped in that zone, I figured I'd keep it for maybe someday when I had enough friends, could turn it in and go there.


When I log back on showing my friend my new item, I was quite happy.

I had to log again cause of GF.

I log back on and that's when probs start...

~ Shrug, I wouldn't have even asked if I could loot in the first place if I knew it was for that zone. I'm not a greedy person who'll take something I have no use for when others can use much more.

~ I've come to believe I must have experienced some chat lag there and the shaman who said "aye, come get it" was not refering to me to loot the neck item but rather come and get the buffs. Was a true honest mixup and mistake.

~ For those of you who will never accept the truth at least don't bring my new guild into this. They're quite new and I would at least not like for thier rep to be hindered.

~ As for those who don't like the guild who killed the dragon, I have nothing against em, they seemed like a nice bunch of peeps to me at the time, until later but that's another story.

~Spirit

I proceeded to ask the shaman if I could loot upon the death of the dragon. The dragon then falls, they link the items, I then recieve a responce from the shaman saying "aye, come and get it"
As Spiriter and i had discussed, The shaman being referred to happens to be my RL wife and sits right next to me who's own logs show no such reply.

The item was found still attached to his cursor. An attempt to hide the item from the GM?? Maybe.. but a failed one.

~ For those of you who will never accept the truth at least don't bring my new guild into this. They're quite new and I would at least not like for thier rep to be hindered.

I couldnt agree more, myself being probably the biggest culprit of disbelief, i do not feel the guild had anything to do with it and definately should suffer no blow to the reputation in my opinion.

~ As for those who don't like the guild who killed the dragon, I have nothing against em, they seemed like a nice bunch of peeps to me at the time, until later but that's another story.
They are the greatest group of people i know, its me you dont, like.

I am not beyond accepting a truth in there being a misunderstanding, but there are to many untruths in it, to many holes, its hard to patch holes once they are opened because the fact that you built them means there is something to hide.

That is my opinion on the matter, mine alone.

I am a member Rider's of Dragons Wright. That being said, I do not blame Heruu for bringing the name of my guild into this subject. The reason? That is one of the best ways to bring pressure to bear when a wrong has been committed - whether it's a ninja loot, KS, train, whatever.

Frankly, IMHO, Spirit should have not looted at all unless and until he had been given explicit permission by the Raid Leader. That is simple courtesy.

I'm glad this was resolved to the benefit of VA. I hope we can all take a few steps forward in establishing a better spirit of sportsmanship and courtesy between players and their guilds.

I'm glad this was resolved to the benefit of VA. I hope we can all take a few steps forward in establishing a better spirit of sportsmanship and courtesy between players and their guilds.
Amen...

Huruu, it was not your wifes shaman, there were two shamans on the raid.. it was the troll dude, forget his name. The wholes are simply where you have lack of information nothing more...


~Spirit

I'd give him the benefit of the doubt if it weren't for the fact that he logged with the talisman still on his cursor... why would anyone do that (other than because they hope it won't show up in the GM logs if they do)?

And Lahle, when something like this happens to me, the very FIRST thing I do is drag their guild into it, that's the best way to get results, a hell of a lot more effective than /petition

To my knowledge/ understanding, anything that is looted off any corpse is recorded with who looted it. I also was not aware that an item on a coursor doesn't show up in the logs. I figured everything does because the game has to keep track of every item anyways so I don't understand why it wouldn't show up in thier logs. I mean.. with me knowning this, or anyone knowing at least the little I know, why would someone loot something that when petitioned a GM can just get it back anyways? The only thing the looter would get is a hindered rep. ... Yup, I logged on today thinking, hmm lets hurt my reputation and get nothing for it... lol come on now. This is so rediculus. (sorry for spelling)

And if you must know...
Hence me being a ranger... prior to lvl 59 and a lack of AAs for EQ. This results in my use of my nifty tolans bracer. Durring the fight I didn't use a single stack of arrows. My inventory was full, so when I looted it defaulted to my coursor. And since I had just looked up the stats on the net I had no purpose to put it in the inventory drop a stack of arrows and inspect it, while the GF's on me. I left it on the coursor and logged.

Geez, ya people are crazy. Every bit of fact can be looked at in a mysterious way or something that can be logically explained if given the benifit of the doubt.

I imagine you're the first guy in the history of the game to log with a Sleeper's Tomb key on their cursor on purpose after accidentally looting one because of "chat lag."

It's things like this that make me endure weeks of people screaming "SOMEONE LOCK THE CORPSE" at every kill. :(

Guilds NEED to keep tabs on the actions of their members. This from the Fanfair and SOE "Guilds that allow their members to grief .....will be sanctioned, upto and including banning of their Officer accounts"

Would they? Dunno.

Could they? You bet!

Up yours man, it's people like you who hold little or no respect for others and have little or no dignity for the common good of people and thier desire to do good. Unlike many people I've come across in EQ I'm not out for the all so great loot. I've created some good friends on here and they're the reason why I'm around.

just a side note... Back when the nightmare compound bow first came out and it was going for what.. 10 to 30k? I don't remember.. all I know is I was in UP on day and at the time I had a crappy bow, another ranger was thier and he had this bow. I asked if I could use it to see how much dmg I could do with it compaired to mine. He said sure, bow pops up in the trader menu accept x2 and I'm shooting away with his bow doing some nice dmg. After a min or two I give it back to him, thanks and on we continue. I had just met the guy too. Don't believe me you can ask him (name is on friend list would have to get from thier.)

I'm an honest guy out to help people. In the past I've been recognized for my hard work detication and helping others out that I once joined a guild.. as a regular member and worked my way up to the leader. What's this show? Because I wouldn't want to deteriate the rep that Fire and Brinstone had while I was the leader. fyi, FaB was ruined when I passed it over to sappers after 8 months of my lead.

What just last month I took a trip to Gfay and had a bunch of stuff that I no longer needed.. instead of selling I just started shouting those who want any of this come to the bank and roll on it. Items values I gave away to noobs ranged from merchant trash to 4k items... What's this show/ point? I'm a giving person not a thief.

And here's a little thought... someone comes up to you and hands you something that's worth oh... 1k for no reason at all.. but just because you said hi to em. They give it to you.. are you going to say thank you or F off? geez... come on now, of course it's going to be thank you even if you didn't need the item. So... why would I say F off to a group of people who just gave me something? (ninjaing an item after they let me join them).

that was for palimax or whatever btw

Because both my own guild leader at least has enough faith that it was an honest mistake and is giving me one chance and heruu in his opinion the situation is resolved I'd be totally fine with this whole thing to the point of just lessons learned and ask the RL for all loots etc etc... but it's the fact that I was once again in WW trying to find some peeps to help me with the bracer quest and some druid in there was porting out 4 other peeps as I was standing right infront of him... at least 15 mins before he ported out I had asked if I could donate for a port to where ever he's going... He replied with, "you that ranger from the boards?" I replied yes but the prob has been resolved... he soon stands up tells his group memebers to gather up and he ports em out without letting me join him. So now my rangers in SG not knowing the way through SG. I don't mind the run.. it's just the fact that he did that bugs me.

I was the druid who left you there, Was doing a pickup miniraid for oddly enough Klandicar. So after we get the toons in WW hanging out in the tunnel. Someone triggers kromriff captain for the beno quest. Then someone runs around screaming they need help. Then same person happens to dump him, and a handful of warriors on us. Sorry man, I admit it, I was a prick and made you walk.

So now my rangers in SG not knowing the way through SG. I don't mind the run..

You don't know the way through Siren's Grotto, yet you don't mind running through it? :rolleyes

The drama on this server/ game is rediculus. I'm done. Spiriter is no more. Bye.


a quote I once read, EQ brings out the worst in people....


I know in RL people at least give the benifit of the doubt more than they do in the game. IMO it's quite pathetic really...

FYI I'm selling account to highest bidder don't care what it goes for. He's a ranger about to ding 59 with 5 aa has 5k HPs and 1200 AC when buffed.

good bye, I have a life to carry on with... people who can trust me and know I'm a good person. Because I don't play for loot etc and play for fun and friends... I take issues like this to heart. I feel you all are attacking me as a person and it's not acceptable. No matter what I say or do nothing will be resolved out of this.

~Spirit

I wonder if Spiriter's figured out that the primary source of drama on this thread is him. Until he went ballistic on this thread today, I had already forgotten his name. :(

I didnt attack you. Nor did I accuse you. I simply made a choice not to give you a port.

Here is my advice to you. Make a new thread and apolagise for the incident. Be sincere and just politely explain the gist of it.

Thanks for the advice man... gonna have to do it another day soon... need some chill time :-P and until then have to stop checking this dang board every 10 mins or whatever it is... laterz


~Spirit

Many of those who post on this board have been playing for a long time and have had run ins with those who are less than honest, and none too bright... Many of those may assume that the GM won't do anything over a ninja of this sort and think that they can get away with it... You have to understand that when something like this happens we are going to assume the worst... Heck, look at the Therat post where they guy is whining and bad mouthing a person over the theft of a 300pp item...

Personally I believe you, I'm a bit dumbfounded that you would think that a guild would gather for a kland raid and then just toss the main loot item to a tag-a-long... Yea, you didn't know that this was the main loot item, that's understandable but it's still hard for many of us to believe that someone of your level would think dragon raid loot would be so casually handed out...

Here's some advice for the board readers... Level 58 or 59 toons now a-days probably don't have much raid experience unless they are an alt... The game is different now that it was when you were that level... Treat them with the proper precautions...

Here's some advice for you spiriter... Don't loot anything if you are a tag along on some other guilds raid, or even on your own guild's raid unless you see the words 'loot xxx spriter' or 'grats spiriter on xxx' in either raid chat, guild chat, or tell from a raid leader or guild leader... If you need to log soon for what ever reason, don't loot anything... period... If you want to preserve your good name, it's better to be safe than sorry when it comes to raid loot...

<^>(>.<)<^>...I just wanted to get some board time *cough*

Thanks for the advice man, lessons learned... I've been around this game since before kunark came out just never gotten really into it.. took me until luclin to come out to get a char over lvl 40. I've gotten a good sence by now about most happening of the game.. item prices where and how to take out small minis etc. just the larger raids what I consider this dragon I'm still a bit new to, actually very new. I've been in search of a guild who does large scale raids but being my lvl that's a bit hard. I finally found one that's just starting out so I can get in easy and that's why I didn't like the fact they were brought into this... because of my inexperiece they were humbled. I actually thought the main loot of this guy was the BP because I've seen the matchless ones sell for a nice plat price.. think I seen one for 70k..? something up there. Just a week ago my new guild took out vindi so we're growing as is my own experiece. I'll be posting an official appology soon later today. peace all.

~Spirit

yer full of shit. delete your toon. go play some other game. there are too many idiots like you in game already. you got busted. you tried to be a little kid and take something you wanted. you didn't think about the consequences. these are the consequences. think beofre you act, kid.

Wow, girlfriend was on you so bad that you had no time to delete a stack of arrows (supposedly) and put the item in a slot (in 30 seconds of camp time), yet you did have the time and presence of mind to leave the raid before looting the thing under the same girlfriend conditions? Not to mention you presumably used arrows on the kill, from what you said, and i find it hard to believe you would have not used up at least a stack, thereby creating an open space. I don't have Endless Quiver yet either, and i know i got through about 50 arrows a minute, with a slow bow.

Leaving the raid before looting looks ridiculously guilty on your part as well.

This story has so many holes and common scammer excuses that i'm not sure how anyone would believe you. Not to mention what was just posted on your WTS thread in the other forum, from a guy you screwed.

Sprinter,



shut the fuck up

I know in RL people at least give the benifit of the doubt more than they do in the game. IMO it's quite pathetic really...

You crashed a party.
On the way out, you picked up someone's bike keys, went outside, and went for a ride.
You returned the bike once the police tracked you down and bugged you about it.

You are telling me you'd trust that numbnut?

Feel free to earn trust back. But until you do, people will assume the worst.

what is it with rangers and ninjaing velious loot? :(

We do? Not this ranger.

And hey Leafstalker, what could you possibly have against the VCs? Show me a more friendly guild, one that's willing to try and balance the uber l33t players with the casual players. One that has the banter and fun that the VC's do.

I haven't heard of another.

Just my humble opinion :)

SLR - VC 'til they turn off the lights and shut down the servers

If Spiriter is Deadlyblades then he's been in this game long enough to know better than to "accidentally" loot a ST key piece.

The drama on this server/ game is rediculus. I'm done. Spiriter is no more. Bye.

FYI I'm selling account to highest bidder don't care what it goes for. He's a ranger about to ding 59 with 5 aa has 5k HPs and 1200 AC when buffed.

I'll give you 25 dollars to send me your CD's/Keys so I can delete your character :)

PM me through EZBoard if you're interested.

Prezto used to pickpocket malo off of juggs and sell it for pp!!

Deadlyblades
I don't know who this is. If I remember correctly someone said this relating to my GFs cleric. No. Her name is not that. And GFs cleric is only lvl 50. I'm making a total assumption that Deadlyblades is higher than that.

~Spirter

Prezto used to pickpocket malo off of juggs and sell it for pp!! ...

Setsuna:

pub142.ezboard.com/fayona...3301.topic (http://pub142.ezboard.com/fayonaerofrm6.showMessage?topicID=3301.topic)

this is a bit of old topic from time ago ...but i just started coming to this board and goin thru old topics...but i will say this spiriter was once in TB and couldnt keep his hands off loot. always had to loot the kills.. eventually we got fed up with him breaking mezzes, playing tank, and his looting habits that while jumping down his neck for it on a raid one day (officers discussing his deguilding) he disbands himself from the guild. oh what a relief it was. the enchanter was the happiest of us all.

just my 2cp.

Nimx

Ok it wasnt me lol the real deadlyblade aka *bruuenor, lume* but a RiP member has my deadlyblade???? wtf man shoulda never sold his bish ass sigh. but who ever did that shit needs a ass kickin

Real Deadlyblade would never ninja loot and i dont think theres a deadlyblade on this server anymore guy i sold him to is on a diff server totaly but i remember there being a newbie Sk named Deadlyblayde with a "y" and ya he was always asking me for crap

Ok, he ninja loots us, then starts crying and says he is gunna quit and sell his character, then he tries to join us at a MB raid?? rofl....

Ickabob Krayne
-----62 Bard----
Vallis Aspectus

spiriter6446 wrote:
just a side note... Back when the nightmare compound bow first came out and it was going for what.. 10 to 30k? I don't remember.. all I know is I was in UP on day and at the time I had a crappy bow, another ranger was thier and he had this bow. I asked if I could use it to see how much dmg I could do with it compaired to mine. He said sure, bow pops up in the trader menu accept x2 and I'm shooting away with his bow doing some nice dmg. After a min or two I give it back to him, thanks and on we continue. I had just met the guy too. Don't believe me you can ask him (name is on friend list would have to get from thier.)

I think I recall this episode...I was duoing with my CLR a lot in UP back then. I was meleeing so I didn't mind lending him (I'd say it was Spiriter) my bow. As he said...he toyed with it for a little bit and gave it back to me.
I recall my CLR rezzed him a couple times in UP too o)

MikyLarsen

This thread has been bumped from 5 months ago. The incident or whatever you want to call it, was from 6 months ago. Leave the newb alone already and get something new to flame about you goobers.

:evil

geesh flame the tard who bumped this old ass thread l0l

bump

LOL!!! Ya Bastage!! LOL!!