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Binuven
10-03-2009, 11:14 PM
Saw the premiere last night. Was wondering if anyone else caught this?
I'm sorta mixed on this. I felt that it was neat how things seem to be coming along in the Stargate Universe, and they seem to be going for a bit of a more grittier feel to the series, AND they seem to be spending more money on actors (IE: Robert Carlisle, Lou Diamond Philips), but I'm still not 100% sold on the feel of the show.
Anyone else have thoughts on this?
Fandros
10-04-2009, 05:40 PM
I like it, but I'm prone to like anything to do with the StarGate universe. The main scientist obviously has issues, we'll see how he plays out.
Sanchek
10-05-2009, 12:36 PM
I finally got around to watching it on Hulu last night. It's an interesting premise. I hope they don't lean on the timer too much. It'll get old quick if every episode is just a race against that same clock.
I'm guessing the doctor completely made up that bit about Earth putting him in charge. I wonder if we'll find out what they actually did tell him soon?
Also, it hurts seeing MacGyver fat.
Fandros
10-05-2009, 04:16 PM
I believe you are correct San, about the Dr that is.
giena
10-07-2009, 09:52 AM
Well, the clock is only 12 hours, so I hope they dont do the "race against the clock" a la 24 for every episode, I couldnt stand that.
I'm sort of "meh" about this one, it was great to see some new material coming from the SG world, but I'm just not sure I'm in to this one. As it stands, I will of course watch every episode this season, I'm just not sure I am excited about it.
Thank God they killed that Senator off in the first episode, I can't stand that actor.
velvetsilence
10-07-2009, 10:37 AM
Finally got around to catching this. It has some promise but i've always been a huge fan of anything SG. seems to me this taking there most popular storyline and giving some BSG type treatment and getting away from he campy nature of the SG-1's. if the writing is good it might hold up. I'm liking the Eli character alot.
Maniacles
10-10-2009, 03:38 AM
Thank god for hulu. Yeah, i'll be watching this. Eli is every one of us online gamers. MIT/Caltech dropouts ftw!
Excuse me while I lose this weekend watching Hulu.
Sanchek
10-11-2009, 01:26 AM
Well, the clock is only 12 hours, so I hope they dont do the "race against the clock" a la 24 for every episode, I couldnt stand that.
Ugh. I guess they just couldn't go near that cliff without jumping off.
Kanyli
10-11-2009, 08:58 PM
Finally caught these this weekend, iTunes had the two part pilot for free. The first episode bugged me, I don't like the over use of plots that jump back and forth in time. Tell the story in a linear fashion, unless there's a good reason for jumping around. That said, by the end of the second part of the pilot I felt hooked. Really started to enjoy the characters.
Hopefully they don't do like they did with the first Stargate. The pilot was great, plenty of room for character growth, and then by the second episode most of that was gone.
Fandros
10-14-2009, 02:56 PM
I loved the SG1 series , one of the better sci fi series to go the distance imho.
Sanchek
10-14-2009, 03:30 PM
They might should've stopped around season 8 though.
giena
10-15-2009, 10:04 AM
Again, underwhelmed by SG:U.
I enjoyed the last couple seasons of of SG:1 mostly because of Morenna Baccarin though.
Kivorn
10-15-2009, 02:44 PM
I enjoyed the pilot. Not so much because of what it was but because it alluded to become a new space opera and I was a huge fan of the Battlestar Galactica cinematography, if not the mishmash story. The way they're filming the SG:U is very 2009 as compared to the extremely outdated SG1, and the slightly less so SG:A (of which I am a fan).
SG:U's second episode was however extremely underwhelming. It felt like I was back in season one of SG1. An episode completely devoid of plot and storyline elements. It was not only uninspired, but downright boring.
SG:U can work if they get cohesive storyline up and running fast. Otherwise it's just another Star Trek or a slightly more adult Lost in Space.
Sixee
10-15-2009, 03:14 PM
Otherwise it's just another Star Trek or a slightly more adult Lost in Space.
As a Trek fan, I'm not sure if I should be upset with that comparison, or if I should watch the show and find out if it is that good.....LOL
Kivorn
10-15-2009, 03:26 PM
I was a bit torn when I wrote that comment as it could be interpreted as an insult to all the trekkies. I am NOT a Star Trek fan. In fact, I consider it very poorly written television. But to each his own and I dont go out of my way to bash someone elses' interests.
What my comment meant was that the SG:U series are in a position to directly emulate the concept of a lone spaceship on an unknown course, with standalone episodes every week. IE: You get to a new planet, you explore it, Kirk sleeps with an alien, and then next week something new happens. Possibly more alien sex.
giena
10-16-2009, 10:38 AM
More stupid "race against the clock while we look for a solution to our problem" episodes!!
I was overwhelmingly underwhelmed by last weeks episode also, but I watched it, just hoping it gets better!! I know it always take a season or so to figure out each of the characters, so I'm not expecting much from this season just yet.
Although, I will say that the new BSG episodes seemed to have all their "pre-work" done with actors knowing who their characters were and how they would act. Mayhaps its because it was known to be a limited 4 season run?
velvetsilence
10-16-2009, 12:30 PM
Underwhelmd is a good way to describe last weeks episode. keeping up the hope it was bridge episode
Kanyli
10-16-2009, 03:46 PM
Huh...I liked the last episode, except for removing much of the mystery around the lead scientist (Rush?). I like the concept of the show, and we're short on solid space operas these days.
I think we were all spoiled by BSG. There's a lot of potential in this show, if they don't become overly formulaic. Star Trek was basically single planet exploration. Dr Who was most single episode, but instead of a stargate it was a matter of wherever the TARDIS landed.
Elemak the Enchanter
10-17-2009, 10:39 AM
Anyone else hate the actor they have playing COL Telford? Seriously I'd like a meteor to fall out of the sky and crush that guy.
Timberelf
10-17-2009, 09:50 PM
Anyone else hate the actor they have playing COL Telford? Seriously I'd like a meteor to fall out of the sky and crush that guy.
He kinds of reminds me of one of the LT. that was in my artillery unit. He was our FDC bitch boy on a power trip
Maniacles
10-17-2009, 11:39 PM
Still liking it. I loved the way that the col bitchslaps the real scientists basically asking them if they were gonna let eli pull wesley crusher stunts every episode.
On the other hand, I found Rush's "catching them up will take forever" complaints to be bullcrap, as, being in the "tech support/ putting out fires" business myself, I've often found bouncing ideas off of even completely skilless people to aid in problem solving, if for no other reason than to recheck previously held assumptions. That argument is purely self serving "make myself invaluable so they won't replace me" mentality...
Ok, so it's not bullcrap. That actually describes most engineer and scientist defense contractor types that i've met who have to work closely with military. They don't fix problems. They note probable future problems, figure out a solution, and then wait for the problem to happen and the military to ask/pay for them to solve it rather than proactively fixing the underlying cause of the problem before it happens, under the "don't fuck with things that are working, or you'll be blamed when it dies as being the last one that touched it."
Kivorn
10-17-2009, 11:46 PM
They're sort of in desperate need to establish Rush as an interesting character. If they fail that they are more or less dead in the water. At this point in the series he's pretty much the closest thing they have to a protagonist.
I like Maniacles' Wesley Crusher analogy, because like him the Eli character seems underutilized, uninteresting and overall redundant.
So far I'm not warming up to the cast. I was really interested in seeing Ming Na in a different kind of role, but so far she's had like five lines, tops. I know you can't ask for much character development this early in the series but hell, they're all pretty bland this far in.
Overall though: This show better than the last. There is hope. In other news: Sanctuary gets better by the episode.
Kanyli
10-18-2009, 10:48 AM
I'm enjoying all of the characters so far, except that the civilians need serious character work. I've known people like Telford and Rush, who act just like that. I'm liking Rush because he seems so much like those people, and not the silly comic relief of doctor whatshisname from Atlantis.
Good episode. I enjoyed it, but hopefully we'll have at least some action in the future to hold my attention. What good is a character drama in space if we never use the 'in space' part?
Kanyli
10-25-2009, 12:43 PM
Another good episode this week, if just a little predictable. The writers are doing a good job of keeping Rush just slighting mysterious.
Sanchek
10-25-2009, 01:57 PM
It was too obvious. Was there any point where anyone really thought they were going to colonize some random planet and/or burn the show's leading actor up in a star?
Knowing the outcome, it was hard to care about the drama in between.
Kanyli
10-25-2009, 02:33 PM
So when you watch Lost, you expect them to get off the island each episode? Or you think Jack Bauer might actually die? The Galactica might be destroyed by the Cylons each episode? Of course they weren't going to colonize the planet. It's how they avoid it that's interesting, although I agree it wasn't the most spectacular avoidance. Still an interesting story though, and I'm liking the characters more and more.
velvetsilence
10-25-2009, 02:39 PM
I had this episode called at the end of last weeks it was so obvious. still rooting for the show so hopefully now that they have air and recharged batteries it will start getting better plot wise.
One thing i could do without is that reality show personal coffesion cam crap.
Sanchek
10-25-2009, 02:48 PM
So when you watch Lost, you expect them to get off the island each episode? Or you think Jack Bauer might actually die? The Galactica might be destroyed by the Cylons each episode? Of course they weren't going to colonize the planet. It's how they avoid it that's interesting, although I agree it wasn't the most spectacular avoidance. Still an interesting story though, and I'm liking the characters more and more.
I'm all for suspending disbelief, but there needs to be a reward for doing so. I feel like I could've skipped this episode and missed nothing, whereas an episode of 24 or Lost will move the story forward, answer some questions, raise more questions, etc.
I had this episode called at the end of last weeks it was so obvious.
Yeah, same here. Though, I didn't expect the ship to go into the star. I figured it would just move to a close orbit and break out some solar panels or something.
Elemak the Enchanter
10-25-2009, 03:32 PM
How awesome would that have been for a plot device though, here you think all these people on this ship are going to be the story and BOOM they're gone.
Nekko1
10-26-2009, 10:04 PM
Im with Sanchek it was hard to hold on to the story with interest, or a just a thought of maybe like Elemak said.
I love the star gate show its a great filler in the afternoons, and you can miss allot and catch up quick. I hope this new incarnation actually goes some where. /waiting to see who the new wraith will be
giena
10-27-2009, 08:12 AM
Thats a good question Nekko, what character(s) is/are going to be the external antagonists to this bunch. Unless something drastically changes, the SG:U crew just dont have the material to fight a sustained encounter, I doubt they even have that much ammunition to begin with.
I'm still lukewarm on this show, it's on in the background while I'm doing homework these days. By comparison, no talking was allowed during SG1 and SG:A.
Still, its better than half the junk thats on regular primetime...
Kanyli
10-27-2009, 09:14 AM
I'm so backwards here. I'm desperately hoping we don't have something ridiculous like the wraith or whatever the SG1 villains were called. The occasional badguy, but no big superbug working it's way back to Earth please.
Sanchek
10-27-2009, 09:40 AM
The Ori? Do we know which is/was farther away? I was going to say they're so far from Earth now that there's probably no worries for that kind of plot, but I guess the Ori arc started far away on that same scale too.
Kanyli
10-31-2009, 12:45 PM
For me, another good episode. The exchange about Hoth and Star Wars at the beginning made the whole episode worthwhile, but I'm weird that way. Good character drama, no hokey scifi last minute saving grace from some silly gadgets.
Sanchek
11-01-2009, 01:01 PM
It was better than the last one. Still having a hard time getting into it though.
Elemak the Enchanter
11-01-2009, 01:38 PM
From the previews of next week it looks like they're going to be using the actor behind COL Telford some more :( I don't know what it is about that actor (maybe the fact he can't act and always looks like a bitch) but it makes me not want to watch the show.
Maniacles
11-01-2009, 02:52 PM
Eli freaking out about the alien didn't fly with me. He still should be feeling like he's playing a live action MMORPG and not quite feeling "engaged", but where every bit of danger that he survives is one more bit of proof that "he can cut it".
On the other hand, Eli freaking out about everyone lying seemed quite reasonable. I also especially liked the Col telling Eli to clean up his room....and Eli ignoring the command.
Kivorn
11-02-2009, 12:10 PM
Last show was definately better than the previous ones. Some development of TJ was welcome.
However I find the show massively struggling. The entire action is hinged on Dr Rush, and he just isnt a strong enough character to carry the show on his own.
I'm rapidly losing interest. I figure I'll give it one or two more episodes before I mothball it.
Greystone Thorngage
11-05-2009, 03:36 PM
The Ori? Do we know which is/was farther away? I was going to say they're so far from Earth now that there's probably no worries for that kind of plot, but I guess the Ori arc started far away on that same scale too.
As far as the distance, when they show the ships origin from earth, there is a mention of the line in the hologram passing through the pegasus galaxy. The line continues through a few more dots, and someone asks if the dots are stars, and i beleive it is Eli who says, no they are galaxies. They are MUCH further than Pegasus, from the distance earth was to pegasus in the holgram, to where they are now, SIGNIFICANTLY further.
OK i watched the first 6 episodes all in a row thanks to Hulu. I love the shows, i guess watching them consecutively like i did i didnt get the underwhelming feeling.
I love Eli, I love the dork losing the girl to the soldier story, he's the underdog you love to root for.
I'm not sure how i feel about Greer, he has his moments you admire, then the wow what a douche moements.
I love Lou Diamond Phillips but i really hope his character isnt constant.
Lastly, did anyone notice the cameo when LDP relieved the guy at the communication stones???? I chuckled.
Binuven
11-06-2009, 11:12 PM
Ok, just finished watching the latest episode and they had me hooked, and yet confused at the same time.
There seemed to be more emotion involved this time, so the writers definately seem to be trying harder.
The one thing that is throwing me for a loop is these communication crystals. How exactly do they work? And what was with the two Colonals? I thought both were on the same ship? I really wish there was some sort of explanation on how that works.
That being said, I found myself really liking this episode. I thought it was great how Dr. Rush sorta put everyone in place and pretty much said I'm not letting you .....sorry, almost a spoiler hehe. I also found that Eli was being fleshed out more. The Senators daughter is beginning to annoy me though. It's whiny this, and crying that, and hanging off her soldier boy one minute, but when he's gone, she's cockteasing Eli. I just wish they'd shoot her out an airlock and be done with it.
Filatal
11-07-2009, 12:28 PM
The crystals were a fairly major plot device in SG1, I doubt you are going to get much explanation from the show as the writers likely assume most viewers are aware of them. Basically, there are linked stones, when someone activates a stone, the last person to touch the other linked stone swaps consciousness with the person activating it. Extreme long distance communication device.
Sanchek
11-07-2009, 02:01 PM
The one thing that is throwing me for a loop is these communication crystals. How exactly do they work? And what was with the two Colonals? I thought both were on the same ship? I really wish there was some sort of explanation on how that works.
The first couple episodes (or maybe just the second one) of SG-1 season 9 better shows how the stones work.
In the last episode, when you saw Telford (Lou Diamond) on Destiny, it's his consciousness in Young's body. When you saw Young on Earth, it's his consciousness in Telford's body.
It can be any combination though, just depending on who used the stones on both ends.
So yeah, Young was using Telford's junk to hook up with his (ex?) wife. Because that's not weird at all. I'm assuming it was the real Telford who showed up at her house at the end, planning on pretending he was Young.
Binuven
11-07-2009, 02:54 PM
Ok, but I thought both of them were on the ship?
Sanchek
11-07-2009, 03:06 PM
Telford is on Earth. When you see Telford on the ship, that's the show making it easy for you to keep up with whose consciousness is in the body (Young's body in last episode's case). If he'd looked in a mirror, they'd have shown Young's body.
Binuven
11-07-2009, 07:14 PM
Ok, things are at least starting to make sense. I was pretty confused there for awhile.
Kanyli
11-08-2009, 08:52 AM
They were also having problems with the stones, and kept swapping back and forth for a couple of seconds. You weren't the only one slightly confused.
Good episode though. No real action, but it had me to the end, and Telford is a bigger ass than previously expected. I'm guessing they'll lose connection with Earth at some point, or refuse the use the stones any more.
Sanchek
11-08-2009, 01:03 PM
It is so painful to see fat MacGyver.
Binuven
11-08-2009, 07:00 PM
Yeah, no kidding! O'Neil needs to gate his ass to a treadmill!
Sanchek
11-17-2009, 10:41 PM
I thought the last episode was a lot better. Actually looking forward to the second half of it.
Greystone Thorngage
11-18-2009, 12:59 AM
i dont think there is a second half is there? I thought they just left it for you to make the logical conclusion
Sanchek
11-18-2009, 01:56 AM
Huh, I had just assumed there would be a followup, how it ended. You might be right though.
The next one is titled "Life", which I guess could go either way.
Kanyli
11-18-2009, 08:15 AM
They did the same thing with the episode where they were headed into the sun, so I would expect some sort of logical conclusion.
I like the continued lack of emphasis on scifi elements. They never needed to explore anything about the critters, other than shooting them dead quickly.
Maniacles
11-22-2009, 02:51 AM
Rush and his willingness to expend other lives is awesomeness. Eli continues to ring true as a slacker geek out of his depth, though I'd like to see him show some growth. He'll really start to grate if he doesn't.
giena
11-23-2009, 02:23 AM
I havent seen this past fridays episode yet, but the one from the previous week, where they had the time travel thing going on, was actually very good.
That was the first episode that I actually sat in utter silence watching. A very good one!!
Could they be finding their stride?
Kanyli
11-26-2009, 07:36 PM
Sometimes I'm slow. Did we just decide to skip the entire conclusion to the time travel episode? I think the last episode was the first one I have really disliked.
Maniacles
11-27-2009, 04:37 AM
It was implied.
Kivorn
12-08-2009, 07:32 AM
Finally a good episode. Unexpected.
Greystone Thorngage
12-08-2009, 08:55 AM
Justice was GOOD!
Fandros
12-08-2009, 12:23 PM
I see him figuring out how to pilot the alien ship and returning...somehow.
Sanchek
12-08-2009, 12:27 PM
Yeah, totally.
Kivorn
12-09-2009, 03:00 AM
I'd even go so far as to call it "obviously". I can also see him becoming the de facto über-bad.
Greystone Thorngage
12-09-2009, 09:45 AM
i read an interview with Rush and he says
that aliens pick him up
Maniacles
12-12-2009, 01:21 AM
They are many...GALAXIES away. Even if they figure out how to pilot the thing, it will still take a gazillion years to fly the thing back without wormholes.
Sanchek
12-12-2009, 01:22 AM
He's a lot more interested in getting back on Destiny than getting back to Earth.
Maniacles
12-12-2009, 09:25 AM
I wonder what tech level the new aliens will be.
Kanyli
12-13-2009, 11:18 AM
Please don't let this become cheesy space opera please don't let this become cheesy space opera please don't let this become cheesy space opera please don't let this become cheesy space opera please don't let this become cheesy space opera!
Did it work?
I liked the episode, although by the end hadn't Young basically undone all of the character that he showed earlier in the episode? Whatever morals he supposedly had seemed to be conveniently written out at the end.
Elemak the Enchanter
12-13-2009, 05:12 PM
No, because marooning Rush was 'justice'. If he had killed him, then yeah.
Kanyli
12-13-2009, 05:42 PM
I don't know - Rush's accusations were accurate. Young didn't want to kill anyone, and had a hard time making decisions that were for the good of the group if it meant dishonesty or hurting someone. So in the last scene, we see Young go against all of that, not only hurting Rush but lying about the why and what of it.
Sanchek
12-13-2009, 05:55 PM
I think Young was just smoking out his enemies with the perceived weakness.
Maniacles
12-15-2009, 01:35 AM
Actually, he just followed through on a threat he made to Rush about the chair earlier. :)
Kanyli
04-03-2010, 05:00 PM
It's back, and for those who wanted aliens, you got 'em!
velvetsilence
04-03-2010, 05:33 PM
I thought it was a pretty cheeseball effort on the whole Rush thing. I'll still watch but i'm losing faith in the writers and the plot in general.
Jedd Corpse
06-17-2010, 10:21 AM
Anyone still watching this??? Any thoughts on the Lucian Alliance in the last episode?!!!!
Greystone Thorngage
06-17-2010, 01:41 PM
great two parter, I cussed at the screen when it ended. Loved the camera angle of the Captain looking up as if to God.
Kanyli
06-20-2010, 01:07 PM
I'm still watching - I skipped part 1 until part 2 is up on Hulu.
Binuven
06-25-2010, 06:22 PM
This show has definately matured and filled out a bit more in the second season. At least they're starting to explore more of the ship. Leaves doors wide open for plots devices and sundry. Eli used to drive me nuts, but I'm finding I'm liking his character more and more, and the Col seems less wooden as time has gone on. The tension between the military and the civilians adds a certain element to the show as well.
Greystone Thorngage
06-26-2010, 04:28 AM
technically it is season 1 you are watching. Only reason I am bringing it up, if someone wants to catch up to the show don't want them trying to find episodes for a season that isnt out yet.
Jedd Corpse
09-29-2010, 01:00 AM
This show just came back tonight!!! any thoughts? I thought it was a pretty good episode
Greystone Thorngage
10-29-2010, 10:26 AM
holy crap, i didnt even realize i will watch them all and report!
Jedd Corpse
10-29-2010, 01:40 PM
I am still not very impressed, though I keep watching for some reason...
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