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Nydia Ywalmoriel
12-10-2003, 09:47 PM
Hey all :)

While I was AoRing it up the last couple of nights and writing final exams, Faervas informed me that he was 'occupied' watching the remake of Battlestar Galactica (4 hour miniseries, apparently launching a new series, the last 2 nights on SciFi). I rolled my eyes and chuckled, because I'd never watched the original due to its just seeming too too corny. (C'mon, Lorne Greene as a Captain Kirk equivalent? A writing team that couldn't come up with any better ideas for names then 'Adama' for their commander, and 'Starbuck' for the young space hothead? The total implausibility of the remains of the human race managing to support themselves on spaceships while running away from aliens? You get the idea...)

Anyway, I'm laying the smackdown on baddies on the AoR raid, the show starts, and the next thing I know, I'm hearing all this ...moaning from the vicinity of the TV. Well how nice, I'm thinking, they sexed the show up a bit at least. A few minutes later, I'm hearing yet more moaning and groaning. I peek my head around and Faervas gives me the plot synopsis on what has happened so far, and gestures to the Cylon babe in a red dress doing a number on the guy who ends up selling the humans out and gets a chip in the head for his trouble.

The next time I peek in, it's a shot of all these cute female space marines washing up in their underwear... Spaced in-between the shots of sex, explosions, and dialogue, are the commercial breaks, which are, oddly enough, heavily salted with ads from the major jewelry chains ("Every kiss begins with Kay..." etc).

It's pretty clear that SciFi, in this remake, knows who their target audience is: former/current nerds, now in their 30s, single, horny, with too much discretionary income, and gullible enough to think that buying rocks for a gal is going to get her to sleep with them. I was getting a good laugh out of the whole thing until I saw *this* young lady in the role of Starbuck:

battlestar.ugo.com/pictur...20Sackhoff (http://battlestar.ugo.com/pictures/showPicture.php?l=/images/girls/&n=Katee%20Sackhoff&i=5&t=11&c=Girls&sc=Pictures&p=Katee%20Sackhoff)

Whoever cast this thing, apparently, didn't forget us queer girls in trying to cover all the sex appeal bases. All I have to say is /drool...

I understand that the casting of females in both the roles of Starbuck and of Boomer (as well as the estranged father/son relationship) has caused quite the firestorm of controversy among Galactica fans. Faervas seemed to enjoy the miniseries and is going to watch it straight through again Sunday night. Just curious, has anyone else seen this miniseries (fan of the old series or not), and if so, what did you think of it?

Regards,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Autonomous Collective

JazyaVechette
12-10-2003, 10:02 PM
When did the original series air? As a rather casual sci-fi fan I've always heard BG talked about but I've never managed to catch it.

Kinda bummed I didn't hear about this, I'd definitely have watched it.

Nydia Ywalmoriel
12-10-2003, 10:10 PM
The original series premiered in the 1978-79 TV season, if I remember correctly. The original cast only stayed on for one year, although it ran for a couple of seasons after that. Faervas could give you more information than I here...

Regards,
Nydia

Selwen Soulgazer
12-10-2003, 10:34 PM
I was a huge fan of the original series when I was a kid. I was skeptical about the new one when I heard about the changes. However, I liked the mini series. It was very dark. The original didnt get into the horrors of the destruction of the 12 colonies like this one does.
I didnt mind them making boomer a girl,or Colonel Ti an old guy, but they shouldn't have changed Starbuck.

Esbat
12-10-2003, 10:37 PM
Whoever cast this thing, apparently, didn't forget us queer girls in trying to cover all the sex appeal bases. All I have to say is /drool...

Learn something new every day.

Some people over on the PRISM boards have gone 100% insane over the changes they made to it.

giena
12-10-2003, 10:41 PM
Yea, it ran 78-79, only one season with the original cast. But I swear, it feels more like three seasons when you're watching them.

As much as I hate to admit this, it's really not fair to compare BSG to Star Trek. Yea, they are sci-fi, but they are two different executions.

I did like the origal show, and this one has promise. But they did take a lot of creative liberties, which I am totally fine with.

For those that care, you can buy the original BSG on DVD now, just dont worry about the BSG:1984 version thats out there. It's horrible.

Fandros
12-10-2003, 10:45 PM
I totally enjoyed the new "Redo" of BG.

The character definitions, the twists and yes the dark mood established in the early on made this a much more adult version.

You can catch the entire mini series on Sci Fi on Sunday night in one sitting.

Oh, and yes the tall leggy blonde bot didn't hurt the eyes...

Christopher...

Osgiliath666
12-11-2003, 12:02 AM
I guess im a traditionalist.. I loved the original. I guess I tried too hard to make it like the first one for my self. I found this remake boring and pedictable. My cylons are not hot chicks. they are big ass slow moving robots with a red wavy light thingy for and eye. this version sucked.

Prezto
12-11-2003, 06:13 AM
I'll bet Lorne Green is spinning in his grave....with at hard-on.

http://www.blast.net/hart/adama.jpg

Palimax Sceleris
12-11-2003, 05:14 PM
Whoever cast this thing, apparently, didn't forget us queer girls in trying to cover all the sex appeal bases. All I have to say is /drool...Well, it's been a while since Nydia reminded us of her Kinsey Score (http://myweb.lsbu.ac.uk/~stafflag/kinseyscale.html). Anyone have a countdown until Shew reminds us he's still hetero?

Ironback
12-11-2003, 10:44 PM
The origional BSG started in 78'. I would have lasted longer but Star Wars came out at the same time and killed it. It lasted only one season. There was a second season (84'?)that had them find Earth. I stopped watching after the first episode. Yes, it was that bad.

I remember having to hide to watch the origional premier. I had done something wrong (insert flames here) and was sent to bed early that night as punishment. So I had to sneak out of my room, creap down the hall and lay on the floor while peeping around a corner to watch it. I was only 10 years old at the time.

Afterwards I read all the books I could find on it, collected the action figures, got the cards, yada, yada, yada...

Personaly I enjoyed the re-make. The background was presented in a much better way IMHO. They gave the viewer more information on not only why and how the Cylons were brought into existance but also on how onslaught happened.

On characters... Instead of having Lorn up there with his pristine white hair and that blue outfit he was always wearing. Now they have a pock-marked grizzly war vet for a CO and a drunk as the XO. I think that it is great the way they have made a father son conflict between him and his son. The origional story had almost everybody all chummy and family like. Now we have drunks, sex, emotional turmoil... In short, the characters are neither as shallow or as sterio-typed as the origional crew. I find the diversiy amongst them refreshing.

The Cylons are an upgrade as well. Our Cyclopian friends are still there with the red eyes. If you noticed, there was an origional Cylon Centurian on display in the hanger bay of the Galactica. The old Centurions were either silver (Centurions)or gold (Captains). The newer ones. as seen at the accord meeting, are of a newer design. The eye is still sweeping back and forth. But they have a new sleeker/modern/darker look to them. I'm just wondering if it will sound like they are talking through a harmonica when they speak as the origionals did. Instead of having Lucifer, brain bot, they have the human appearing models. In the origional series Lucifer was Baltar's side kick.

Combat scenes... Nuff said. Hands down better than the origional. The cinamatography could use some help when there is a dialect though. They pan around a little to much for me. I'll bet the cast tripped on a cable or two while filming!

These are only my opinions and views. But I do like what I have seen so far. As long as Boxy doesn't get a new mechanical Daggit I'll be happy. And what about the Battle Star Pagusis (sp)? Is she still out there?

Ironback Brewmiester
High Cleric o' Brell
"I'll bring the booze!"

Laeyakk
12-11-2003, 10:44 PM
Shew is hetro?

No way! I always took him for a flaming gayboy.

Nydia Ywalmoriel
12-12-2003, 01:17 AM
Well meh, I wasn't trying to draw attention to it or anything, but since it was germane to the topic I didn't figure there was any need to be ambiguous about it. It's not like I go prancing about the threads on education, politics, etc, waving my pink and blue flag. Or as Edna St. Vincent Millay said:

'Well of course I'm homosexual, and heterosexual too, but what's that got to do with my headache?"

(upon visiting a doctor seeking treatment for migraine, and being interrogated by said physician about her sexual orientation)

In this particular instance, the joke was on me; I was laughing at the excessively sexed up new 'Galactica' until someone threw *my* flavor of eye candy on the screen...

Anyone got a link to a good pic of the new 'Starbuck' in her greens in the poker scene, or smoking a cigar btw? ;)

Regards,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Autonomous Collective

Crist0
12-12-2003, 01:29 AM
would have lasted longer but Star Wars came out at the same time and killed it


Star Wars = 1977
BG = 78/79

BTW , the centurions are still in it Osgiliath.

Osgiliath666
12-12-2003, 01:52 AM
Yea i know i watched it.. I guess I only wanted the centurions.. Although I would not kick that woman out of bed.

Sanchek
12-12-2003, 05:08 AM
I think she's more than plenty hot too. I know nothing about Battlestar Galactica (nor do I want to), but I clicked that link about 20 times since you posted it. Thanks, Nydia!

Fandros
12-12-2003, 06:50 PM
/nods Nydia

The new Starbuck does it for this side of the fence as well.

Then again I always did like strong women...

Christopher...

Shewdogg
12-21-2003, 09:15 AM
Dude, I just went through this thread and saw there were a couple people picking on me, I'm kind of slow, oh well.

Anyways, I think I saw the mini-series last sunday. I liked it a lot, having no idea what Battlestar Galactica was since it was a few years before I was born. I just had a couple questions, I didn't realize that the scene in part 2 of the mini-series where it shows boomer as a cylon model... So really was that the end? I'm starting to piece together, I wasn't sure if there were going to be more parts to the mini-series or what not... is it going to be made into a TV show... I've checked the Sci Fi channel website and couldn't find any conclusive information =\

Fandros
12-21-2003, 04:45 PM
Yeah Shew it's being made as a Sci Fi series as we speak...

Boomer was all human in the original, the plot twist this time around was pretty cold.

/chuckle

Fandros