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Shortyrez Starfury
12-02-2007, 12:58 PM
What are everyone's thoughts on who should go to national championship? I think it's hard to argue against Ohio State since they only have one loss, but who should go as #2? Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma, or USC? I have a feeling it's going to be LSU #2, Georgia #3 with the argument that LSU won that extra conference championship game to jump Georgia. I can understand that, but I still think this year proves the BCS is a huge steaming pile of crap that needs to be scrapped for a playoff system.

Bise
12-02-2007, 02:43 PM
What about the zero loss teams? I personally don't see LSU getting in but I believe the had the hardest schedule by.

Deviant
12-02-2007, 07:01 PM
Zero loss teams? Isn't there only one... Hawaii? Who only plays in the california penal league. It will be OSU vs Georgia.

ainwein
12-02-2007, 08:27 PM
Kansas over Mizzou is fucking bullshit. Their schedule was pathetic. Fuck BCS

Shortyrez Starfury
12-02-2007, 09:20 PM
Yeah, I think there's a lot to be upset about for many different groups this year. Missouri goes from being #1 to not even getting a BCS bid? Illinois is picked for the Rose Bowl? I still just don't see how they can say a conference doesn't need to have a championship to get BCS bids but then move 3 conference champs ahead of Georgia when they didn't play a game. Make the rules and the voting consistent at least. Don't penalize conferences with championship games (that killed Missouri).

Greystone Thorngage
12-03-2007, 08:51 AM
BCS is officially REALLY broken

samanusuke
12-03-2007, 03:17 PM
Since they capped the scholarships at schools, a lot of student athletes have a big decision to make. Either pay his own way to go to a big name school, or get a scholarship to a smaller school and get a lot of playing time.

The result is this year's college football, where no team is a sure win, ever. The BCS worked fine when the top 10 teams or so were essentially untouchable, but now the entire field is so muddled that a system based on opinions is more or less completely retarded.

I agree they need a playoff system with the top 24 teams or so flatout. Fuck the whole "only this many teams from this conference can go to bowls" and etc. Let the teams play. It would be a lot more interesting to watch.

Taleren Bloodsong
12-03-2007, 03:38 PM
Here's the solution I like (I made it up myself as far as I know).

Each Division 1 team plays 10 games. Each team needs to be the member of a conference (So join the Big East with your football team Notre Dame, just like the rest of your sports teams. Army and Navy will need to join a confernence too).

No conference championship games. Each team plays 10 games period. At the end of the 10 games, each conference crowns a champion. The winner from each conference gets an automatic bid into the championship tourney. You have a field of 32 teams. You have the automatic bids (10-12) and the rest become at large teams selected like the basketball tourney in March.

Currently if LSU wins the title, they will have played 14 games total. OSU will have played 13. If each team plays 10 before the tournament (which enables teams to still play 8 or so confernence games, 2 at large to preserve some rivalries) than the final two teams that play for the championship will have played 15 games. That's only one more than currently for LSU (and the BCS is still talking about a plus +, so that would make 15 already for LSU if that happened this year).

In a tournament with 32 teams, you play 31 games. Play the first round of games at lower teir bowl sites, and progress through the bowl sites as the tournament progresses. There are currently 32 bowl games, so only one is eliminated. This keeps the money flow for the teams that to the tournament. Since each team is a member of a conference, they can divide out the payment much like the BCS game payouts are now. Seed out the colleges 1-8 for 4 geographical areas just like the college tournament.

Since every school is a member of a conference, they will get a slice of the money. That will be a boon to the smaller conferences. You get the chance of a small school advancing. It would give a shot to a team like Hawaii (or hell, even a Central Florida that won the C-USA).

samanusuke
12-03-2007, 03:51 PM
I like it. And if this year's proved anything, its that a smaller, barely-known team can take down the power houses if they outplay them (which has happened more times than I can count this year).

Shortyrez Starfury
12-03-2007, 04:09 PM
Tal, that's a very well thought out idea. I like it, but I think the issue would be with the early fall "cupcake" games. Those are virtually eliminated under your system.

Ogan
12-03-2007, 04:20 PM
Tal, that's a very well thought out idea. I like it, but I think the issue would be with the early fall "cupcake" games. Those are virtually eliminated under your system.

Honestly though doesnt that make the NCAA better? I mean if you guys recall a while back when Michigan and Nebraska split the title? I mean Michigan didnt give up a Touchdown in the 2nd half of any game, and 0 points in the 4th quarter. And that was against teams like Michigan St, OSU, PSU and Notre Dame. Neb played teams like middle tennessee state?? The BCS is a joke, and always has been. I like Tal's idea and I think it would make for a great NCAA football season...LOOK OUT March Madness!!

Gerf
12-03-2007, 04:22 PM
The BCS sucks... That is all.

Shorty I like the G4P under your name, it adds character to your UGA luvin ass!!

Go Go Tech in the blue carpet bowl!! We suck so bad. :mad:

Shortyrez Starfury
12-03-2007, 06:12 PM
Honestly though doesnt that make the NCAA better?

Yes. Would the athletic associations go for it? Probably not.

Shorty I like the G4P under your name, it adds character to your UGA luvin ass!!

You can thank Sanchek for that. Don't be a hater just because UGA has had Tech's number for 7 years straight. ;)

Ogan
12-03-2007, 09:54 PM
Yes. Would the athletic associations go for it? Probably not.

They should, better games = increased ticket sales, more $$ for televised games, etc... But again you're right they won't. Guess we're stuck with Broken-ass College football System.

ainwein
12-03-2007, 10:04 PM
Would we still have the amount of corporate sponsorship that we do in today's BCS? I'm sure Tostito's has a large vested interest in keeping the current system ; )

Fandros
12-04-2007, 12:42 AM
I don't know Ain, couldn't we find a middle ground were we kept the bowl games sponsors via the final game being the Rose bowl and down?

I find the current BCS to be lacking, have for years...

DiscW
12-04-2007, 12:44 AM
That makes far too much sense for it to ever happen taleren.

And shorty, how would that be bad? The amount of cupcake games are yet another issue that makes college football look like a joke. It's like the yankee's having the durham bulls on their schedule.

Taleren Bloodsong
12-04-2007, 08:50 AM
In the plan I made, as stated, you'd still use the sites for the current bowl games. That would enable people to continue with the bowl sponsorships, etc. Obviously, any plan made needs to take money into account, because IMO that's what's kept us from having a playoff so far.

Gerf
12-04-2007, 02:29 PM
You can thank Sanchek for that. Don't be a hater just because UGA has had Tech's number for 7 years straight. ;)
Hey, at least I have my Falcons!! Lets go Redman the insurance salesman!

Oh hell, it's bad when you have to rely on the Hawks for anything.:eek:

Nekko1
12-04-2007, 03:25 PM
Texas and Arizona should be interesting. The BCS sucks but the LSU OSU game will be a good one to watch.