Found this quote pretty interesting today in comparison to our times of bail outs and increased goverment aide. anywho thought Id share it.


When the thirteen colonies were still a part of England, Professor Alexander Tyler wrote about the fall of the Athenian republic over two thousand years previous to that time: A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage.

So what phase is Europe in? They have embraced a socialist republic form of government on a country by country basis and a confederacy as far as the continent. Canada is almost like Europe on a smaller scale, since Quebec kinda adds some variation to the mix. China is more authoritarian and so is Brazil and India, but still that is not pure dictatorship where you have some dousche like Castro, Chavez or Putin making almost all or even ALL decisions. Even so,the world really is too small for a complete authoritarian government to work, unless one governing body runs the whole planet which is the only senario that might work. Granted, its a reasonable assumption that the US is going to lose some ground as far as "pure democracy" goes and become more socialist, but that might have alot to do with people not understanding how to use freedom responsibly....such as running a business in mind to do nothing but fleece the public and then leave them holding the bag or taking out loans no one can ever hope to repay. The US economy turned into a giant Ponzi scheme the past 30 years or so...but it is the people that allowed it just as much as the government.

Now its time to give up some freedom or go down the tubes. With this bail out, we pretty much officially become socialist reguardless. If the government is writing this big a check, then they get alot of say on how their or should I say "our" money is spent and those industries and institutions become nationalized. We can maybe gain our freedoms back when we can show we know how to use them in a reasonable and responsible manner. Kinda like being a college kid with a new credit card and then begging mom and dad to bail em out when they get over their head and then suddenly being surprised by the fact that mom and dad are forcing them to join the military, work at the family business for minimum wage or some kind of servitude to pay back the debt.