http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/27/opinion/granderson-broken-government-voters/index.html

So how do we make our country a bit more intelligent, or perhaps just a bit less stupid?

The guy is absolutely spot on.

:devil

So how do we make our country a bit more intelligent, or perhaps just a bit less stupid?

Abolish religion?

Religion doesn't make people stupid and look bad

Stupid people make religion look bad

Hate to say this but....

You can't fix stupid.

A good bit of it is just plain apathy. People adopt an ideology about what is right and wrong and then believe whatever their told that fits that ideology. They discount anything that opposes it as spin or lies, with no basis. I don't know that it can be fixed, the country is woefully divided to the point of such hate. Neither side is willing to accept the end goals are the same, to have an economically healthy safe secure place to live. From the politicians side, I don't believe that is the goal for many of them, their political power and greed now exceeds the good of the country and it's people.

I'm not sure where it will end, but all the choices we are given now further polarize and paralyze the country.

The fix for stupid is soylent green.

The fix for stupid is retroactive abortion with a 9mm.

The fix for stupid is retroactive abortion with a 9mm.

That is a stupid comment.

Without stupid people, the rest of us would have nothing to gauge our intelligence on.

:devil

Hitler was the last person to try and euthanize people who were mentally inferior on a mass scale. Didn't work out so well for him. Pol Pot tried to do that too, but he went after the smart people rather than dumb. Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge actually had the more politically shrewd approach. The stupid people aren't going to dig too deep and will be happy for whatever scraps come their way. Such as things are now here in the US.

http://www.jonathanrauch.com/jrauch_articles/is_america_divided_bipolar_disorder/

This guy brings up some points. It might be an older article, but still has some relevance. It really goes along with the fact of it being easier to find people to agree with your position as opposed to validating the integrity of said position. The position doesn't need to be backed up with fact, do anything to better any situation from a moral or economic objective. It just has to be in opposition of the other person. With the Internet, that is exceedingly easy now. Find enough people to say it is true, and than it is.

Heck, Perry will probably win the White House in 2012 just because "He isn't Obama". Never mind if he is actually going to do anything other than maybe get the deadlock out of the government. Then we get 4-8 more years of retard Texan. Funny how that works. Sometimes when you want to get incompetence out of an organization, you promote them. Didn't that happen with the last governor of Texas?

What we need to do somehow is get people to think outside the party system. This us vs. them approach causes people to make repeated poor choices.

http://www.bmj.com/content/340/bmj.c2276.full

Seriously. Once you're locked in a party view, you don't even realize your party is wrong.

Lummus, weren't you on here telling us how you didn't have time to keep yourself informed just a year or so ago?

A year ago I was in the Navy, stationed in China and on call 24/7. When it wasn't that, I was dating a woman in my office or I was out actually trying to take in the better parts of China. Having narrow interests was kinda par for the course. If you want to fault me for that, which I am sure you will, than fine. The usual "fuck you, Sanchek" applies.

Now I am out of the service and in school. So hurray I can give a fuck now about some things when there wasn't time or the means while at the same time being able to endure much less bullshit from the work front. I even grew a beard to officially commemorate my status as a civilian. Funny how that shit works.

I was actually kinda hoping Huntsman was doing better than he is but if it comes down to Obama or Perry I doubt I will bother to go to the polls. So maybe that part hasn't changed. Still, it is over a year away. Plans are to actually make an informed decision and so far, Obama = let down and most of the GoP runners = retards. Just don't expect me to be some kind of activist like the level that seems to be expected around here. I can choose to not be a dumbass for my own sake, but no one can force others not to be. Saying "you can't fix stupid" is not completely correct. Its a choice like most any other.

Heck, Perry will probably win the White House in 2012 just because "He isn't Obama". Never mind if he is actually going to do anything other than maybe get the deadlock out of the government. Then we get 4-8 more years of retard Texan. Funny how that works. Sometimes when you want to get incompetence out of an organization, you promote them. Didn't that happen with the last governor of Texas?

My wife used to describe this too me from her organization. She called it "Fuck up, Move up."

I think Perry will pull an Icarus and melt his wings.

A year ago I was in the Navy, stationed in China and on call 24/7. When it wasn't that, I was dating a woman in my office or I was out actually trying to take in the better parts of China. Having narrow interests was kinda par for the course. If you want to fault me for that, which I am sure you will, than fine. The usual "fuck you, Sanchek" applies.

But now that you're back, all the people who are currently busy as you were a year ago are slackers that will get the government they deserve, right? I know the feeling - I felt the same way back when you were swaggering around about how you were too busy to care about the details.

So, just saying people should inform themselves is obviously not enough. People with excuses for not informing themselves are the majority, not the exception. We need a way to get this notion drilled into their heads instead of holding a self-congratulatory circle jerk while preaching to the choir.

So, just saying people should inform themselves is obviously not enough. People with excuses for not informing themselves are the majority, not the exception. We need a way to get this notion drilled into their heads instead of holding a self-congratulatory circle jerk while preaching to the choir.

/shrug. Maybe it is time to have a World War then. Kill off a few billion people or so. Give society a reboot. Kill off the Oligarchs off for a while. Draw up a new Social Contract.
Maybe the system is actually that broken. If there is no faith in the system, people are going to be cynical about whether making an informed decision about politics even matters. Washington DC is after all the biggest of circle jerks. Obama eats the cookie every time. Pontification and masturbation for all.

As for the so called swagger. Yah, its gone now. Usurped by reality. The military insulates you from quite a bit.