View Full Version : This time for real... It has begun!
Jedd Corpse
05-27-2008, 04:23 PM
NEW YORK - The George W Bush administration plans to launch an air strike against Iran within the next two months, an informed source tells Asia Times Online, echoing other reports that have surfaced in the media in the United States recently.
Two key US senators briefed on the attack planned to go public with their opposition to the move, according to the source, but their projected New York Times op-ed piece has yet to appear.
The source, a retired US career diplomat and former assistant secretary of state still active in the foreign affairs community, speaking anonymously, said last week that that the US plans an air strike against the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC).
The air strike would target the headquarters of the IRGC's elite Quds force. With an estimated strength of up to 90,000 fighters, the Quds' stated mission is to spread Iran's revolution of 1979 throughout the region.....
The source said the White House views the proposed air strike as a limited action to punish Iran for its involvement in Iraq. The source, an ambassador during the administration of president H W Bush, did not provide details on the types of weapons to be used in the attack, nor on the precise stage of planning at this time. It is not known whether the White House has already consulted with allies about the air strike, or if it plans to do so.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JE28Ak01.html
It looks like one of the biggest mistakes in American history is about to be made.
Taleren Bloodsong
05-27-2008, 04:31 PM
I think I need to get a tank for the backyard and start hording gas.
Lleauric
05-27-2008, 04:41 PM
Ill never trust a story from a guy named Mohammad Cohen.
Waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy too many issues to sort out there.
Besides.. this would absolutely destroy McCain. Unless they are planning on one of great political miscalculations of all time.
Ibudin
05-27-2008, 04:47 PM
Iran could appoligize for supporting terrorist activites in Iraq and Afghanistan. They could do a number of things to better their situation with regards to the US, but they don't. Some say they don't have to. Its always but but but the US did this and the US did that to Iran, they don't have to do anything. Ok then we have a problem folks, Iran will be blown back to the stone age unfortunately and we'll all have to pay dearly for it with our wallets and our families lives.
Fandros
05-27-2008, 04:48 PM
So many red herrings in this story it's really hard to believe anyone would give this credit.
Noone outside of those in the need would know, and I assure you they wouldn't flap their gums to such a shit rag.
What is of note today is the UN nuclear watchdog IAEA came out today blasting Iran for stonewalling the UN's atttempts to monitor their efforts.
I think it more likely Jedd's story is a whitewash attempt by the powers over there that be.
Iran is dirty and trying to muck it up by acting as though they're victims. Sorry charlie , when the UN calls you out you might want to change those skivies.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23768881-2703,00.html
There is no plan being touted by the unwashed masses that is legit here in the US.
Jedd Corpse
05-27-2008, 04:48 PM
Iran could appoligize for supporting terrorist activites
So could we, but thats a whole different thread
Fandros
05-27-2008, 04:49 PM
See Ib...
but but but America
Jedd Corpse
05-27-2008, 04:49 PM
So many red herrings in this story it's really hard to believe anyone would give this credit.
Noone outside of those in the need would know, and I assure you they wouldn't flap their gums to such a shit rag.
What is of note today is the UN nuclear watchdog IAEA came out today blasting Iran for stonewalling the UN's atttempts to monitor their efforts.
I think it more likely Jedd's story is a whitewash attempt by the powers over there that be.
Iran is dirty and trying to muck it up by acting as though they're victims. Sorry charlie , when the UN calls you out you might want to change those skivies.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23768881-2703,00.html
There is no plan being touted by the unwashed masses that is legit here in the US.
The Asia times is not an Iranian "shit rag"
Fandros
05-27-2008, 04:51 PM
Ahhh but you said
Asia Times Online
Top that off with the name of it's source being someone who hasn't a clue.
THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING...
Could that be because Iran has acted the fool with regards to the IAEA? Could it be because it's thumbed it's nose at request after request?
Jedd Corpse
05-27-2008, 04:52 PM
See Ib...
but but but America
The part that makes you guys funny, is that you expect Iran to apologize... Would we apologize to Iran?
There is your answer
Fandros
05-27-2008, 04:54 PM
It's not us they need to apologize to Jedd, and that's your blindspot.
It's their neighbors that fear them , the folks in Europe that worry about their influence and hell anyone else who dares to look down on them.
I'll agree the US makes mistakes, but in this Iran is fucking up and asking for the trouble that you claim is coming their way.
Jedd Corpse
05-27-2008, 04:57 PM
Knock it off Jedd, don't taunt me or I shall be forced to make you look silly.
Go back to reading the bathroom walls please. I really don't want to get in trouble with San while you taunt me and I have to sit on my thumbs!!
Back your claim that Mohammed Cohen doesn't know what he is talking about if you wish to discredit an article... Don't just spout off nonsense in order to support a view that is not discussed.
Jedd Corpse
05-27-2008, 04:58 PM
Muhammad Cohen
Native New Yorker Muhammad Cohen moved to Hong Kong for six months in 1995 to work on the startup of CNBC Asia. He stayed and became a permanent resident in 2004. In Hong Kong, Cohen has also been an editor at The Standard and Bloomberg News. His writing on Hong Kong and the region has appeared in Time, Columbia Journalism Review, International Herald Tribune and Asia Times Online.
A graduate of Yale and Stanford's creative writing program, Cohen is currently a special correspondent for Macau Business magazine and writes guidebooks for Lonely Planet. Before Hong Kong, Cohen was a TV news producer at CNN in Washington and a US diplomat in Africa.
http://www.blacksmithbooks.com/muhammadcohen.htm
Fandros
05-27-2008, 04:58 PM
show me how he knows or claims to be an expert?
Looking at my rather extensive chain of command and it's outlying personages I don't see him name anywhere.
You prove the negative, till then he's a hack.
Fandros
05-27-2008, 05:00 PM
A graduate of Yale and Stanford's creative writing program, Cohen is currently a special correspondent for Macau Business magazine and writes guidebooks for Lonely Planet. Before Hong Kong, Cohen was a TV news producer at CNN in Washington and a US diplomat in Africa.
Nothing of these creds shows anything other than a reason to find his story to be bunk.
Relax, we are not plotting a war in two months with Iran. They aren't worth the time and with the IAEA ramping up it'll be a UN action.
Sanchek
05-27-2008, 05:00 PM
Let me get this straight. Some of you think that just because Iran won't apologize to us for not bowing to our will, it will be their fault when they get bombed?
To me that sounds like the same logic as saying a woman in a short skirt deserves to get raped.
Jedd Corpse
05-27-2008, 05:01 PM
A graduate of Yale and Stanford's creative writing program, Cohen is currently a special correspondent for Macau Business magazine and writes guidebooks for Lonely Planet. Before Hong Kong, Cohen was a TV news producer at CNN in Washington and a US diplomat in Africa.
Nothing of these creds shows anything other than a reason to find his story to be bunk.
Relax, we are not plotting a war in two months with Iran. They aren't worth the time and with the IAEA ramping up it'll be a UN action.
You miss the part where he was a CNN producer, and a US diplomat in Africa?
Fandros
05-27-2008, 05:03 PM
I'm not the one screaming that we're going to bomb Iran because of this creative writers story with no facts.
I'm getting real sick of listening to this hype, frankly I'll have to think Halo is right and this is getting out of hand.
When I come to these boards anymore I feel like I'm stuck behind a 3 full shopping cart line forced to read the headlines of a supermarket tabloid.
Fandros
05-27-2008, 05:04 PM
You miss the part where he was a CNN producer, and a US diplomat in Africa?
Good lord, that does not give him incredible insight to the plans of the US Military.
Smoke screen plain and simple, Iran is in trouble with the UN and they're trying to distract folks.
3 shell monte anyone?
Jedd Corpse
05-27-2008, 05:04 PM
Good lord, that does not give him incredible insight to the plans of the US Military.
Smoke screen plain and simple, Iran is in trouble with the UN and they're trying to distract folks.
3 shell monte anyone?
Who said he has incredible insight in the plans of the military... HIS SOURCES do.
Fandros
05-27-2008, 05:06 PM
It's all junk, sorry man I could claim sources saying we were going to bomb the North Pole and have as much credibility.
I see you dodging the IAEA's very strong rebuke of Iran today.
Fandros
05-27-2008, 05:12 PM
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/986810.html
Another reason Iran is throwing up the "US attacking us" smokestorm.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/27/world/middleeast/27iran.html?em&ex=1212033600&en=3cf74493ed3f24d8&ei=5087%0A
Another source showing the IAEA's concerns.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Fox_Carter_mention_of_Israeli_nukes_0527.html
Not sure how accurate this is, but if Jimmy Carter is giving out state secrets , even if not our state *israel at this time* he's walking a thin line. Personally I think this story is likely blown WAY out of proportion.
Sanchek
05-27-2008, 05:22 PM
It's all junk, sorry man I could claim sources saying we were going to bomb the North Pole and have as much credibility.
That's just not true. There are many indicators pointing toward our taking (foolish) action against Iran soon.
Even our former ambassador to the UN is predicting and actually advocating it:
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Ibudin
05-27-2008, 05:46 PM
You guys are right (Jedd and Sanchek) Iran shouldn't do anything but get ready to be carpet bombed. Your right trying to make some sort of concerted effort, even with making the UN happy probably doesn't matter anyways. The hell with it, lets get it on.
Jedd Corpse
05-27-2008, 05:48 PM
You guys are right (Jedd and Sanchek) Iran shouldn't do anything but get ready to be carpet bombed. Your right trying to make some sort of concerted effort, even with making the UN happy probably doesn't matter anyways. The hell with it, lets get it on.
You got your body armor on?
Ibudin
05-27-2008, 05:53 PM
I am ready and waiting.
Ibudin
05-27-2008, 06:19 PM
Oldie but goodie.
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American air strikes on Iran would vastly exceed the scope of the 1981 Israeli attack on the Osiraq nuclear center in Iraq, and would more resemble the opening days of the 2003 air campaign against Iraq. Using the full force of operational B-2 stealth bombers, staging from Diego Garcia or flying direct from the United States, possibly supplemented by F-117 stealth fighters staging from al Udeid in Qatar or some other location in theater, the two-dozen suspect nuclear sites would be targeted.
And no, I do not think the US is going to attack Iran. It would be a huge mistake for your/worlds economy, you would have to be a complete idiot to not agree with that. That would be the only reason I would be against any sort of attack is simply because of the economy. For giving aid to those fighting against our (thats right Sanchek American family members) soldiers, I would like them to blow them to kingdom come. Spare me the but but crap we did this and that, I am talking about RIGHT NOW.
Bylimet Spiritwalker
05-27-2008, 06:41 PM
IF Bush and Cheney launch an air attack on Iran, I am of the opinion it will be to destroy evidence of Halliburton's work in Iran, possibly in relation to Iran's nuclear program infrastructure.
AND, if an air strike is launched, there will be some form of terror event in this country within 30 days of the strike, and Bush/Cheney will have the justification for declaring martial law and canceling the election in November. What the hell, they have already been training the military for such an event.
Tail wagging Dog....
But hey, don't mind me. This is just my intense disgust and disdain for these two criminal buffoons exhibiting itself.
Rover
05-27-2008, 06:43 PM
Muhammad Cohen
Is that an Oxymoron?
Rover
05-27-2008, 06:44 PM
IF Bush and Cheney launch an air attack on Iran, I am of the opinion it will be to destroy evidence of Halliburton's work in Iran, possibly in relation to Iran's nuclear program infrastructure.
AND, if an air strike is launched, there will be some form of terror event in this country within 30 days of the strike, and Bush/Cheney will have the justification for declaring martial law and canceling the election in November. What the hell, they have already been training the military for such an event.
Tail wagging Dog....
But hey, don't mind me. This is just my intense disgust and disdain for these two criminal buffoons exhibiting itself.
That is actually the perfect conspiracy theory and one that would actually hold water.
Greystone Thorngage
05-27-2008, 07:58 PM
will have the justification for declaring martial law and canceling the election in November
Search the forums i called this 3 years ago.
And firmly beleive it will happen.
Even more tinfoil hat:
Election happens, McCain wins nothing changes. If Obama wins, martial law is declared after another terrorist attack. Obama never gets innagurated.
Kanyli
05-27-2008, 09:42 PM
A number of us have been touting this idea, it's certainly not without precedence in history. Scary shit.
Rover
05-27-2008, 11:01 PM
I think most of us who had an early realization that something was amiss in the Bush presidency called something like this.
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