All of you ever wonder what's up with these people who persist on correcting your spelling and grammer? I see it all the time in game.

Guy1 shouts" Can I please get some bufs from sombody please!?"
Guys2 shouts"I don't think I can help you, I don't know who sombody is."
Guy1 shouts" ***Can I please get some bufs from SOMEBODY please!?"
Guys2 shouts"Oh, you're talking to me? What you need I'm not sure what you mean by bufs. Or did you mean buffs?
Guy1 shouts" Aye, please I need some."
Guy2 shouts"Are you telling me you need buffs or are you asking me if you need them? I think you forgot something."
Guy1 shouts" Whatever, thanks anyways."
Guy2 shouts" muhaha, learn how to spell and maybe someone can help you."


This is a near mimic of a convo I seen the other day. What's up peoples butts? I mean geez. If you don't have time/mana or just don't want to then say so, there is no reason to be a dick.

~Spiriter

And no this wasn't me, just a fellow challanged speller.

Once there was a time when I was editor of the school newspaper. In the index key, I put in small print, "Spelling slips and grammatical gaffs are purposely placed for the perfectionists to point out."

There's a difference between the occasional speeling slip or an grammatical gaffe, and the rather large and almost unreadable text block that passes as a supposed coherent post.

If someone is so intent about 'clearing their name', starting with a block of lines that the rest of us have to fight thru to get the 'gist' of it probably isn't a good way of doing same.

I'll let the spelling misteaks go by , I ' ll leave the punctuation problems by the wayside , but for the love of all things legible, find and keep using the <enter> key!

That is all :)

SLR

Back in the day when Bandwidth was small, high speed was 24 baud and you had a script program log you on download the packet form relynet on your local bbs. Users started using words like BTW FYI to make the packet smaller. because you only had 10 mins of user time and it also saved disk space on the massive 10 meg HD. You also use the words to save keystroke in a live chat at 300 baud of more then 2 people were talking the lag time was huge and you wanted to get your idea out fast. sometime people do it to look cool. the worst one is "any" it's 3 key strokes but you see this "n e" you can't use "NE" because it looks like you are give a direction and in a fast scroll of spamming in like PoK skimming the text you may miss something.

problem is if you start using too many of the contracted words people have to pause and think about what you are saying. Some players come up with the contracted that no one else is familiar with and it gets annoying to have to figure out what was just said. So of you are going to make a public statement. one should use the proper spelling so everyone can understand. some people as also more attune to word spelling and grammar and like striking a bad note in music. and they just can't get over it.

There have been times when I have entered into the dark world of "Begger Baiting" - picking apart someone's pleas for assistance.

Take the above example ... please (pause for rimshot) ....

This poor soul begins hollering for "bufs" ... no specifics and no statement of willingness to provide compensation. Even some specifics as what TYPE of buffs would be nice - "LF shammy bufs", "LF cleric bufs", "LF dr00d bufs" etc. wouldn't trigger my "Begger Baiter" instincts (well, maybe the "dr00d" part would, but I digress).

Do I /shout or /ooc for buffs for my characters? Yes ... but I provide specifics ... "Looking for KEI" or "Anybody casting Temp?". I will often "/ooc LF Rez" as my battered body is dumped from the entrance of a dungeon. Notice I provide specifics. At that point, people know what I am asking for, and can decide whether or not to grant my request, and whether or not they want a "donation".

I do not "/ooc can i have buffs plz" - because that, IMHO, is quite simply begging. And I can't stand beggers. So, on occasion, I will respond with snide remarks and picks at grammer, spelling, yada yada .... It's a bad habit, true. But so is begging.

Re: the usage of "n e" or "ne" for "any", one of my favorites is to say "You there! Did you say 'ne' to that old woman!". A Monty Python reference, to those unfamiliar with it.
:)

What you dumb asses need to learn is unlike you fuckers who dwell on this page hour after hour , people like me while taking a quick bio brake and waiting for others to join ldon group come here fast to waist time hastle you pricks and then get back to game play . I dont give a fuck about spelling a grammer to you pricks i just enjoy coming here watching you bigets be bigets then i get back to game play unlike you

Interesting

Briaroak said correcting others grammer is like a bad habbit but the other guy makes a good point for simple understanding purposes.

His point made me think of how, even though you have nothing against them, when you walk by a few people talking in another language it's just annoying. Rather you care about what they're saying or not.

Yesterday in my physics class a prime example of this was given. These Chinese, Japanies people were laughing at something and talking in thier native language. The instructor, being of some other country, had walked by durring this and started going off in his own native language for a few moments talking to them.

I didn't understand what was actually said but from what I observed is a simple point being made. You're in America you speak english. So the guys point made that you need to be able to write well for others to understand you makes sence.

So what's the answer? Who's more in the wrong those people who are correcting them or those who just cannot seem to write well? And what's to be done about each side?

~Spiriter

lol totally agree Comcastguy, I'm just trying to determine the logic behind these peoples desire to correct others. Something that's not necissarly totally about EQ, but rather something that happends in everyday life.

~Spiriter

Spiriter, you're missing the actual dynamic behind 'buff beggar baiting' ;) . It's only peripherally about the grammar (see my slightly more abusive reply to you in the other thread). People who belong to 'buffing classes' get sick and tired of being chased around PoK and other public zones and being continually hammered with begs for KEI or Virtue, or less commonly Pot9 or Focus7, as if it was the beggar's god-given-right, while having no interest in giving said buffing classes an actual exp group.

These folks aren't dyslexic (in most cases), they're simply too lazy and contemptuous of the folks they're begging buffs from to even bother typing out a couple of complete *words*, much less a sentence. I don't even bother replying to them anymore, but have corrected the grammar of folks who were asking me to give them something in the past. You're not only barking up the wrong tree here, but baiting again... ;)

Regards,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Autonomous Collective

What you dumb asses need to learn is unlike you fuckers who dwell on this page hour after hour , people like me while taking a quick bio brake and waiting for others to join ldon group come here fast to waist time hastle you pricks and then get back to game play .

Maybe you should stop working it to Everquest characters while your playing. Just an idea, think about it.

I dont give a fuck about spelling a grammerVERILY! VERILY INDEED!

k, here's a perfect example (and apologies for the long quote)

Lifted from another thread--

"
You know i read all of your comments , majority i might add usualy the trashed based folks that are here 24/7 and i have realised this message board was made to come here and speak about right and wrong , and opinions . I simply come here and post the truth that some fuck head ever since i have came to this server has done nothing but stalk , watch my bard , then spring lies wich is shit i did not do nor ever do , only for the 1 mission to give me hell in the game . I dont care if i new somone who KSed people , ninja looted or anything bad gaming i could think off that would make me actualy log on every day and have my guy sit around doing a /who all amp to find out what im doing , were and with who , then spribg the second i log to only send the people i was with tells with millisious lies . This Dart guy for crist sakes has went to the exstent and made up fake amps on this board and made it out to be me that was posting , Dart has also posted here that he new me in rl and that i was following the little freak all in wich either jealousy , envy ,or just a plain realy truely fucked up in the head little boy . I post this and all of you shit heads that come here all the time except the couple that come here once in a great while like i do inwich is a perfect idea see that and think thats strange and odd and wrong somone would do that , while the rest of you shit faces ignore that issue and talk about spelling and flaming i dont get it and probably never will . I do know this the good people i run with all know about dart the gms know about Dart and ill be the first to say stupid shit like that for a while fucked my game play up . Now course it doesnt i log on get groups and do what everyone else does . Only reason why i even made the mistake to post a thread on this to you biggets was to show you what kind of fucking freak you guys run around with . Knowing that Dart was ejected from Final Destiny and his not to mention his 7 day banning he got from the begining tell horassing me shows me the guy is nothing more then a low grade player . Wich to me is humerous in a way becous i know and any of you with any fucking sense knows if the guy is doing nothing but siting deguilded at level 65 in a low level 30s zone watching me for hours and screaning this board for hours this Dart guy has a screw loose . I dunno if the 10 of you are totaly afraid of this Dart guy turning around and doing this to you . Reminds me of grade school you have this bully with his little clan doing just horible things to the other kids in school his hole clan knows what he is doing is wrong . But they dont dare say a word for the fact they are petrafied of what he will do to them if they dont agree with him . Inwich in the end shows most of you are gutles cowards . To me i spit in this Dart guys face would skull fuck him in RL then snap his neck off and turn to his mother and pull a Coby Bryant on her . But the realism of it is that will never happen unles id spend 1500 + and truthfuly the little boy isnt worth my valuable time. He knows it and you goat cowards know that . So people swing of you leaders nuts out of fear least we know the all mighty guilds what type of players they have in them and we all can have a good chuckle on that
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The author of the particular post is trying to convince the readers of the thread that his interpretation of the events is the right one.

Now, if you're trying to 'win' folks to your point-of-view, it would be a good idea that, spelling and grammar aside, you make your point *clear* and *understandable*.

I could care less about speelng and about grammar or proper structure sentence, but I do care about *clarity*.

And the quoted author has none.

Again I state, use the <enter> key, especially if you want folks to read, yet alone understand your point.

That is all :)

SLR

Spelling and grammar I have found is a great way too gage intelligence or education. I am not sure which one yet... maybe a combonation of the two.

Blazemore

If you're typing is so horrid that you need to make ridiculous contractions, then I highly suggest hiring a secretary to chat in EQ for you.

Personally, I always try to add a twist when I was buff begging in the old days, but now that I play a Necro instead of a Wizard, I really have no use for people like Nydia, save when I want her to tash my mobs in CoD so I can charm them and lose control right before the server crashes...

Anyways, it's my consensus that if you can't be bothered to spend at least 20 seconds to ask me for a favor, I can't be bothered to spend 40 seconds favoring. IE, the only people who got TL/TP's from me back in the old days were those that said, to the effect of, "Excuse me sir, would you mind getting off your fat ass and making sweet love to me? Oh, and a port to EJ would be nice." Though on occasion I'd grace, "Can I snag a port to Nro bro?" with a "Only if you're 19, hot, female and willing to take pictures of your titties."

Am I spelling and/or grammar perfectionist? Not really. But with the lackluster approach some people take towards typing and playing off their horribly skills as "dude, it's just a game, why take the extra time to type it all out?"

Why indeed...

Though unless you've got me in the crosshairs of your awp or have a rocket heading my way, saying, "Ur" or "U" is grounds for being trained. -Especially- when cybering. Christ all mighty.

I mean...uh...

can u stop typing "christ" please this is so ridiculous in your mouth

I'd have to steal a cross between Setsuna and Nydia's posts. There's a lot to be said for being able to express yourself well, and it only takes practice. I type most of my posts once, read through once, and hit the post key - very quick work. But I can compose quickly, and word things in ways I hope are effective. Same goes for in-game. Most buffing classes appreciate it if you take the time to type out a nice request, rather than a run by jumble of letters. Some days we go a bit far though, in our pickyness.

I usually think of the laywer in the courtroom. Speaking elegantly is a necessity, and if you can't convey your ideas in a way that people understand, no one wants to listen to you.

Begger baiting...never heard that, I like it, heh!


-Kanyli

My english teacher was actually talking about this subject when explaining why grammer is important:

It's not the exact quote, but this was the point:

If you write like an idiot, then you sound like an idiot, so people will treat you like an idiot.

Christ is in my mouth? omg! Fuck, I only brushed once today. 8(

lol totally agree Comcastguy, I'm just trying to determine the logic behind these peoples desire to correct others.

Because if we had no editors, the future of literature would look scarily like your posts?

--Cen

Yeah Zehn, quit horassing us

/snicker

Those who actually know how to spell and use correct grammar don't require any additional time to think about it. It comes naturally, just as moronic incomprehensibility comes naturally to Amplicastguy. If it actually takes mental effort on your part to compose a few legible sentences in your native tongue, I find that rather pathetic.

And comcassfyre, given your exhorbitant number of vacuous posts here, your excuse of "too little time" only makes us laugh at you more.

If you want to defend yourself, talk like a normal human fucking being and take 60+ seconds to write something semi-comprehensible instead of being mentally defective, you moronic bastard.

This thread provided me with a new sig. Thanks.

Is it intentional that almost every post in this thread contains misspelled or grammatically incorrect phrases?

By the way, what the hell is "grammerally"? Graham Cracker racing?

Typo's are one thing. Shit happens and you don't realize it.

But I'd be ashamed if my typing was that bad. I can almost imagine what the handwriting would be like. *cringe*

If it's your native language and you can't speak or write it correctly, then that's kind of pathetic. My opinion of someone's intelligence is consistently lower when all they type is "omg n e1 hav buffz for me?!1" and "wuts goin on???" Everyone makes mistakes, it's not a big deal or annoying unless it's a blatant display of ignorance and/or stupidity. Still, I don't go around correcting people unless they ask for it.

Patheos
65 druid
PRISM

combination... crap.

Blazemore

That will teach me the valuable lesson of proofreading a post of mine that cracks on spelling and grammar issues.

gage intelligence


Psssst, its not just Combonation, its 'gauge' too. =p Tho some dictionaries classifiy gage as a variant of gauge....

I give people lots of slack on their written communications, but I mentally correct them without their knowledge. Does that make me a bad person? =)

Kad

Kad, you haven't been bad a day in your life!

IMHO, of course...

SLR

Probably would have been "to" instead of "too" as well...

http://vallisaspectus.org/~heruu/Charts/horass.jpg

Hubbe can we get this little guy implimented in ezboard??

hmmm having a alt myself that is a buffing class .I myself ignore like 90 % of buff request based on how the person sends their request.


I made my alt in april 2000, since then he normaly averages 2 hours a week traveling through the low lvl zones buffing lower lvls,

Some of you may remember my drood solarass as he`s buffed i`m sure 1/4 of the people on the server easily hehe .

As far a buff beggers yes they are annoying .while i don`t really mind buffing people there are some i never buff.

in 3 and half years of buffing noobs i`ve found that those who ask for buff like this. example I need sow, need aego, i want kei , etc normaly don`t even bother to reply with a thank you after you have buffed them .

I have never buffed or rezed anyone that i charged a fee to, but if they can`t respond with atleast a thanks for my time and mana , they get added to my never buff, port or rez list .

Also the Leet 13 yr old what R U up 2 today talk , or the people that type please as plz get ignored aswell.

I never respond to tells, or ooc/shout, say from anyone to lazy to type please in their request .

E xample . May i have a sow please . gets a sow as soon as i can target them .

The person who asks, need sow plz. will get ignored always has , always will .

HAHAHAHA, Heruu that was great :)