We have someone who is going to run it this year ?

Is it complicated? Maybe someone could take the load off of who ever was doing it last year.

I will be doing it

Will there be a cash bump like at the beginning of last season, for those of us who lack your talent at making the right picks? :p

I think that decision all falls on Sanchek

Personally, I think we should reset the vCash each season, so there's more competition.

I'll do whatever you guys want though.

If you're gonna do that, should record who won the seasons in the past and so forth too somewhere. It might also make sense to have the extreme longshot bets where you can bet money today on who will win the superbowl.

I am with ********. AND Kelraz. Record it and start over. But can we have a finite season with football? I'm not into Baseball or Basketball.

I am very much against starting over. If a person bets well, they don't suddenly lose their money 6 months later unless they bet it away or spend it on something else. People can on the other hand earn more money to bet, so I am not opposed to people getting more 'money' at the start of each season or monthy even.

I understand there are people that do want to start over, but seriously, those tend to be people that have gambled away all their 'money.' Of course on the same note, the people that don't want to start over tend to be the people that have either been lucky or adept in their betting strategies. Really though, it's hard to feel to badly for a person that gets some play money and then blows it on one bet the first week of a given season and doesn't even try to mitigate risk early on.

Really though, it's hard to feel to badly for a person that gets some play money and then blows it on one bet the first week of a given season and doesn't even try to mitigate risk early on.
Right, but we aren't in that given season anymore. It's been almost two years since I installed vBookie.

How much fun would sports be if your current season record was meaningless and the playoffs were seeded based on all-time cumulative records?

How much fun would vegas be if the people that lost all their money complained about the amount of money some people won and then the casino just went and took the money from the person without them actually losing it?

Not a very good analogy, since there's no way to "earn" more vBookie cash.

If you're so good, I'd think you'd relish the opportunity to win on equal footing season after season. Starting at 20k and staying ahead of people that start at 500-1000 isn't much to be proud of.

It's not always about being good. Initially it's about mitigating risk. Anyone that says luck isn't involved would be kidding themselves too. As to there being no way to earn more vbookie cash, hasn't there been a few times where people did get some cash? If you read my prior comment in this thread, you'd also read that I thought it was a good idea for people to get cash at the beginning of major betting seasons or even monthly. That doesn't say to me that I dont' think people should be able to earn more 'money.'

No I don't relish in starting over on things I've worked on. You compare it to sports seasons, but they never truely start over either. If a team has done a good job of scouting, a good job of drafting, etc., they dont' start over with a new team each season. Heck, if you wanted to give a weighted amount of points depending on how much they already have, much in a similar way that an unsuccessful francise gets a higher draft pick, than I wouldn't even have issue with that. What I do take issue with is starting over from scratch each season because some people that have been less successful/lucky think they need that because they've fallen behind.

As has been stated when this came up before, it's not generally a good idea to change the rules once a game has started. If people knew their points would be wiped out at the end of the season, you'd see a differance in betting patterns. You'd see more risk taken at the end of the season from the people that HAD accumulated some vbookie winnings. It was stated at the beginning, that occasionally people might be given more 'money' to play with, but it never said that if you win for a while, you will have to start over.

I guarantee you my betting patterns would have changed if the rules were differant, but now it seems there's a desire to change the rules to suit some people that have now decided they didn't like the way the game has been played. Just as those people don't like it now, you can't expect the people that have played the game the way it was initially intended successfully to like it if the rug is pulled out from under them so to speak either.

There have never been any rules about whether we'd reset each season or not.

I have a strong suspicion that this lopsided distribution discourages people from playing, since they have no hope of ever catching up. I'm not interested in preserving status quo for one or two "lucky" people at the expense of the health of the whole thing.

I'll put it up for a vote, like last year.

How about if there is a reset you give the people that have a lot of points to see what they can do with them for say a month? Like I said, I would have bet differantly (and have a suspicion that Nekko and a few others as well) had I known that I was going to lose them.

Can we have vCash and bCash? Maybe two different systems? That way the vPeople can keep there money?

Or is it just one?

How about if there is a reset you give the people that have a lot of points to see what they can do with them for say a month? Like I said, I would have bet differantly (and have a suspicion that Nekko and a few others as well) had I known that I was going to lose them.
It's extremely likely that there will be a reset sometime, as we talked about last year. This is nothing new.

Act accordingly.

Can we have vCash and bCash? Maybe two different systems? That way the vPeople can keep there money?

Or is it just one?
vBookie will only maintain one balance.

What if we made it more competitive? Reset per season then do an end of the year type status:

1. Most vCash
2. Most Games won
3. Most Games lost
4. Quickest broke

etc....

I think this may actually hold water with both sides of the argument.

That's exactly what I had in mind.

Sanchek,
Can you query the current vcash and get a dump of some stats? i.e. Most wins, highest bet, most loses, most money, etc..

That way we can start that for the past few seasons stats, and the work that was put in by people like Taleren is meaningful even with a reset. I would suggest a top 5 of each. Thoughts??

Yeah, I'll put together some top 5-10 lists here in a few days.