Yep walmart is the debil.
http://www.walocaust.com/site/?q=node/3

Wish i had sometihing i could send to help him out.:devil

News at 11:00!!!!

Wal-Mart to Stop Selling Firearms in Some Stores (http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB114502845796126154-jcrkfu5PX8z0BQRHMo7IhpzeqCQ_20070415.html?mod=blog s)

I can't send anything atm...I'm heading to Walmart to get some stuff for a crawfish boil.... :)

Tip: Now's the time to get your favorite gun on lay-away at Walmart then... if their store stops selling guns, then they'll start discounting them in a month or two... and those discounts extend to items on lay away. My cousin Billy Bob bought a Mossberg for about 20% of the original cost by doing that.

Stick it to Wal Mart cause they stick it to you.

And no, I don't have a cousin named Billy Bob.

Admit it, akipt, YOU are Billy Bob!

I need a gun. Guess I better go get a discounted one...

:P

i hate wal-mart and did my two cents to somewhat get back at them.

I needed a holiday job for xmas money, so i worked at Wal-mart part time. I didnt spend 1 penny in that store, in fact i boycott Wal-mart as a rule, so i did nothing but collect a paycheck and take money from them.....muhahahah i win

I love Walmart. One stop shop!

Wal-Mart, Microsoft, ... and other "big" corporations successful because of the underlying principles of capitalism have done more to raise the standard of living of humanity than any other organization in the world (government, charity, or otherwise) ... yet they're all considered evil bastards worthy of scorn.

Boycott Wal-Mart because they drink blood with the Chinese. Boycott Microsoft because you hate blue screens. But you're giving your money to the corporation who would gladly step up once their competitor is not at the top.

i really need to dig up an article about Wal-mart puting Vlasic pickles out of buisness....

Consumers are lazy nowadays thanks to one stop shop centers like walmarts and targets, if poeple actually reserched what they bought they could save even more money.

Wal-mart is not always the cheapest, for example atleast in my area, you can get TG Lee gallon milk(the premium brand in the yellow container) for over $1.50 cheaper at CVS than you can at Wal-mart. Also, Publix (a supermarket chain) has higher quality "generic bread" for 3-9cents cheaper and usually has named brand bread products cheaper. So when i do my shopping I often compare prices.

Most Outlet clothing stores Ross, Bealls to name a few in florida, offter higher quality clothing for the same price as Wal-mart.

I mentioned quality too, consumers are often sacrificing Quality for price. Go buy a toy at the dollar store, one at walmart and one at Toys R Us...give them to kids to play with, they will break in the order i listed them in for purchasing.

So Grey, you could save money by doing your shopping at X ( where X can be as many as 20) amount of stores intead of shopping at Walmart in one stop?

Sorry, that doesn't work out at all. I have a very busy 60 hour work week on top of being a parent of a Teenager. Just using me for example you can see where that type of mentality won't work. The day just isn't long enough.

Give me Walmart, thank you Walmart, all praise be unto the Walmart!!!

;P

Fandros

Palimax was good for defending Walmart. We've been over this before...Walmart ftw.

Consumers are lazy nowadays thanks to one stop shop centers like walmarts and targets, if poeple actually reserched what they bought they could save even more money. The person who bitches about having to spend $225 per month in gas should not lecture us against one-stop shop outlets.

My time is much more valuable to me than any microscopic price difference. :)

Luckily I can make one trip and all the stores I need to stop at are on the way...with the advent of that thing we call the internet you would be surprised how much comparison shopping you can do.

My time is much more valuable to me than any microscopic price difference.

Well my household goes through about 4 gallons of milk a week. So the savings of making an extra stop is $6 a week or $312 a year, that is just milk. Thats a car payment.

Meh. We hit Wal-mart once a month for a groceries run. They are cheaper then the small rural general store we have in town and have a better selection. May hit that gun idea. Want a Mossberg 500 Persuader. Other then that I can take or leave Wal-mart.

I loathe WalMarts here. They are dirty, crowded and full of ignorant people that look like a poster child for "You might be a redneck if" or "I'm a thug yo".

I do however like SAMS. I'd probably shop WalMart more if it weren't the crowds they bring in around here. Every WalMart in the county is the same, I just can't stand trying to push a buggy with my family up an isle that has been cluttered and picked over and crap is laying around. It's amazing there is a KMart just down the road and it's older than the WalMart and yet it's spotless sadly it's not very big so I usually hit up the Target across town b/c it beats both of them on the cleanliness/customer service scale.

Recently WalMart tried to enter my township; it was voted down almost unanimously :) YAY!

I loathe WalMarts here. They are dirty, crowded and full of ignorant people that look like a poster child for "You might be a redneck if" or "I'm a thug yo".

I do however like SAMS. I'd probably shop WalMart more if it weren't the crowds they bring in around here. Every WalMart in the county is the same, I just can't stand trying to push a buggy with my family up an isle that has been cluttered and picked over and crap is laying around. It's amazing there is a KMart just down the road and it's older than the WalMart and yet it's spotless sadly it's not very big so I usually hit up the Target across town b/c it beats both of them on the cleanliness/customer service scale.

Recently WalMart tried to enter my township; it was voted down almost unanimously :) YAY!

What's sad, you don't even recognize just how elitist and snobbish you sound.

I hope they build the Wal Mart just outside of your township's border so you lose all that tax revenue and yet gain all the traffic from it.

Haha Akipt thats mean!

We have two WalMart Super Centers within a few minutes driving time of where I live. I have found them to be the best price in town on most items. What little bit I would save going somewhere else is not worth the time or gas it would take.

I have been very pleased with the cleanliness of both stores, as well as the upkeep and their efforts to keep things looking good and well stocked. These are high-volume, high-traffic stores, but yet they still manage to keep things looking good. I think it's primarily the local / regional management that makes the difference. A friend of mine works for WalMart locally and has told stories about how much the regional manager rants about keeping things clean.

I would rather patronize some of the locally owned mom-and-pop stores in the area, but they can't touch the prices at Wally World. Dollars and convenience that drive the market.

The 3 SuperWalmarts in my area are all very well kept up. Nothing lying about and shelves fully stocked.


Fandros

What's sad, you don't even recognize just how elitist and snobbish you sound.

I hope they build the Wal Mart just outside of your township's border so you lose all that tax revenue and yet gain all the traffic from it.

I sound elitist and snobbish! YAY! Come visit my town to see what I mean and then tell me I'm snobbish. I'm not exagerating the stores look ransacked no matter the time of year or time of day. Prior to moving to this part of PA I always shopped at WalMart and loved it. I hate them here. If you need to label me for having opinions and views so be it. It doesn't bother me in the least :D

And no, there won't be any more WalMarts in my county 2 are enough and no townships want the mess that have become the other two. The tax payers here love their signs about WalMart, you can't drive a few feet without seeing something about it.

I do know what your talking about Fil but I find it strange that the high ups of Walmart would allow that to happen. They are a pretty regemented company and one would think some complaints to the right people might change those stores around. Even to be a supplier to walmart your company is heavily audited on your manufacturing procedures and product reliability.

If you need to label me for having opinions and views so be it. I "labeled" you for a reason. Don't you realize WalMart knows those stores are completely trashed? You admitted it yourself, "they're crowded and completely picked over." DUH. I bet they each do double the traffic an avergage WalMart in another part of the country does. Let WalMart build another store to take some of the traffic from the others. The condescension, arrogance, and selfishness abounding in a township to take that business decision away from WalMart is astounding.

And there's a reason you are able to go to KMart and Target away from the crowds. But you're being completely obtuse and not seeing that as well.

Our local Wal-Mart was usually a bit messy but not horribly so. I dislike the company, so no longer shop there whatever the pricing.

I prefer Walmart's prices, but the quality of the clothing they sell leaves much to be desired. Generally stuff from there lasts about a year before falling apart.
Target Sells better quality items, but I think most people go there to seem "trendy". I know that's why my ex-wife goes there; to be seen.
Funny thing is, Target about a decade ago was known as "Dart Drug Store" a more white trash establishment I can't imagine....

Fildien isn't kidding. When I went to work at the Tobyhanna DC when they needed help, the stores near there looked like a bomb went off. They were dirty and not well kept. The customer service was atrocious.
Up here in NY its just the opposite, The super center is very well kept and the customer service is great.

I should say they if I can get it from Kohl's I will because its based out of Wisconsin. Kohl's is actually doing very good but they have about 1/4 the items Walmart does.

I should say they if I can get it from Kohl's I will because its based out of Wisconsin. Kohl's is actually doing very good but they have about 1/4 the items Walmart does.

The Kohl's here is attached to the Target (well in the same shopping center). I always thought of them as a clothing store I had no idea they were more like a WalMart?

i think its regional, in central florida most are pretty scummy, We have one that opened 1/25/06 and it already looks like crap.

Target = the big debil to me.

Kicked out Salvation army santas among other moves have me never going there again.

Plus, if you think the likes of Target and other mass stores don't use China or other nations forced labor you are indeed viewing through a very selective set of paradigms...

Fandros

The basic difference is that Target markets to a different audience.

The basic difference is that Target markets to a different audience.

Actually, for many the basic difference is that Sam Walton was adamant that his stores would sell goods made by American workers in American factories, and the moment his children got their greedy little hands on the controls they tossed that whole notion out the window and moved to a "there is not enough money in the world for me" mentality, and actively pursued sweatshop products to maximize their profits.

Actually, for many the basic difference is that Sam Walton was adamant that his stores would sell goods made by American workers in American factories


That is dead on accurate. It is too bad that Walmart has become the largest importer of foriegn goods.

I don't recall if I ever asked this here:

If you knew that a pair of jeans, or shoes or a shirt etc was made in the USA would you pay $10 or $15 dollars more for it?

I would be more than happy to pay the additional monies for USA manufactured goods.

Actually before Sam Walton turned things over, they were alreayd shifting to overseas products. Their made in america campaign was basically horse crap after 1 year of its inception.

The Kohl's here is attached to the Target (well in the same shopping center). I always thought of them as a clothing store I had no idea they were more like a WalMart?

They sell home items, games for kids (or adults), music, movies, luggage, shoes, all kinds of stuff. Great store really just wont find car items, guns, cleaners, ect.. like Walmart. It would be unfair of me to classify it as more like Walmart but they do sell a lot of things I usually am out shopping for.

If you knew that a pair of jeans, or shoes or a shirt etc was made in the USA would you pay $10 or $15 dollars more for it?

I would be more than happy to pay the additional monies for USA manufactured goods.
I would and do.

Not from Wal-Mart though. I try to spend my money in ways that keep it circulating as locally as possible. I don't care if something's a more expensive in the short term. If you take care of the people near you, it comes back around sooner or later.

You arent doing America any favors by buying strictly on the basis of the label. As a matter of fact, you simply promulage the type of problems we see in the US Auto industry

Its simple, buy the best quality for the best price.... always. American companies need to learn to compete in a global economy by those standards if America is to retain what it has in the face of a vastly and rapidly changing world.

edit: What I hate about Walmart is that it removes choice. Walmart effectively destroys the free market system on a local scale. A good example is toys. Lets say Walmart carries products from 20 manufacturers. The opportunity for a small start up company to make better, more innovative toys on their own terms no longer exists. Whereas 20 years ago a company could send sales reps on the road and work local businessmen, selling their product and growing in that more organic way, that way is quickly becoming extinct.
And those 20 selected manufacturers become so dependant on WalMart that they in essence become subsidiaries. Walmart as a retailer has created itself into a position between the supplier and the demand. It decides what the public can have by its own needs. What type of toys fit in with its corporate plans = the type that get sold to America.

Well lets make one thing clear..I do not purchase anything in the form of clothes from Walmart unless its underware and socks.

About the only things we do (wife and I) buy from Walmart is household cleaning supplies, vitamins, shampoo, I used to buy all my games such as EQ from them...and thats about it.

And those things you buy from Walmart, I usually buy in bulk from SAMS.... cleaners, toilet paper etc. I get clothes from other places: Bonton/Khol's and my coffee from Target b/c they carry it cheaper than other stores. Also get my games, movies, music from Target unless Circuit City has it cheaper.

Target, Circuit, City, Kohl's and the Bonton are very close to each other so it's that much easier. But even if they weren't I wouldn't shop at WalMart where I live for the previous "ELITIST" reaons I listed.

The SAMS and WalMart are in the same shopping center and I do hit the SAMS once a month religiously.

I love that I'm lableled for choosing how to spend my money :)

I love that I'm lableled for choosing how to spend my moneyYou were "labeled" not for how you chose to spend your money, but how you expected (no demanded) others to spend theirs.

And for the record, I originally said you sounded elitist, but since you continue to be oblivious, consider yourself labeled.

SAMS is too far away of a drive for me, Walmart is 5 minutes away...besides I count on my wife to find the best deals. I have to many things to do rather than fricken shop lol.

You arent doing America any favors by buying strictly on the basis of the label. As a matter of fact, you simply promulage the type of problems we see in the US Auto industry

Its simple, buy the best quality for the best price.... always. American companies need to learn to compete in a global economy by those standards if America is to retain what it has in the face of a vastly and rapidly changing world.
Pushing American companies to compete globally by outsourcing their manufacturing labor to the lowest common denominator hardly helps the average American. It may temporarily inflate profit margins and stock values, but we all lose in the long run.

Having a 1% cheaper product isn't much consolation when you have 100% less income.

If we want to maintain our standard of living, the real goal should be training and education of Joe Factory Worker to do something service based. That's the only way we can continue to leverage our current economy's circle jerk GDP and maintain our economic advantage farther into the future.

You were "labeled" not for how you chose to spend your money, but how you expected (no demanded) others to spend theirs.

And for the record, I originally said you sounded elitist, but since you continue to be oblivious, consider yourself labeled.

Gosh you're just as funny in other threads as you are in the ones about politics.

Low skill manufacturing jobs arent going to keep America successful. If you require no special training, education or ability to perform your job, it's leaving. Thats the reality of the global economy. And thats the way it should be. Americans need to wake up to the fact that world has changed. If our companies do not become lean and efficient, and that means taking advantage of the opportunities that present themselves, then they will eventually be replaced by foreign ones that do.

The goal should be to remain on top of a market that just increased its size 3x. China, Russia and India are here, and they arent going away. They are part of the Global market and the realities of that need to be understood. We can NEVER match the ability of China to mass produce goods cheaply. The sheer amount of laborers they have essentially allows them an automatic win in the production sector. Then the other factors that come into play include the absence of unions and the lack of a need to provide things Americans consider basic necessities of a job (sick, vacation, health, ect)

We have a school system that is basically designed to produce at the general level, factory workers. Bush's NCLB has reinforced that critical error by making an educational standard dependant on the lowest common demoninator. All the efforts in schools are going to make sure that students meet the minimum requirements. Meanwhile the rest of the world is identifying talented students at early ages and giving them access to courses of study that reflect their aptitudes. American education systems need to be pushing our best and brightest and making the most out of our talented citizens.

This is related to the point above about not buying American, just because its American, but always buying the superior product in this way:
The market works. If we place demands on our businesses, they will meet them, or they will die. We need to expect more out of corporate America. Once upon a time, American Cars were the envy of the world, now they are considered 2nd rate. Why? Laziness and lack of effort. Detroit went with "planned obsolescence", believing that the next car Americans bought would be one of theirs, like it was owed to them. They learned that the market will shift to the person who is offering the most superior product for the best price.
What is true for Americans is true for Chinese, and Russians, and Indians. As their emerging middle classes develop and start looking at products and goods, the products we want them to buy should be American.
If not, we lose and the American era will fast come to a close.
The power and wealth that will be weilded by the companies that can establish quality and value on a global scale will be unimaginable. The Tom Delays of the country have shown us quite clearly that $$ trumps everything. Multi-billion dollar corporations write laws everyday in our congress. The laws have been made so complex that teams of lawyers are required to author legislation. These teams are being paid for with corporate funds, the bills written then handed to a Congressmen to sign his name to and introduce on the floor of Congress. Who needs to worry about the details when the lobbyists make it so easy. Tell me with a straight face that a global monolith with endless supplies of cash and armies of lawyers cant exert its will in the Congress of the United States. A great poet once wrote "Viaticus Sceptrum Panton Inter Mihi" (translated: Cash Rules Everything Around Me C.R.E.A.M., get the money.. hundred dollar bills y'all). And those companies will follow the WalMart model of destroying competition.
America IS capitalism. We either embrace it, and adjust to its demands, or we will be destroyed by it.

I know this is from another thread, but how are American corporations supposed to be lean and mean if the Government is legislating stuff like FMLA, Ect?
Or are you talking about paying the Corporate side less, and putting more of that $$$ back into the company?
Believe it or not, CEOs, CFOs, and all the other lettered titles actually do jobs in the company.
Just because they don't break a sweat (unless they are called to testify before Congress) doesn't mean they don't work. Most of these guys don't do a 9-5 schedule to make the companies they work for produce.
If you were in their position, and you had 2 offers form companies that wanted you to do that sort of work for them, which would you choose? The 1 that pays you more, obviously.
Sadly, it's a rare case when a CEO doesn't take the Bonus they were offered when they don't reach the specified goal. There was 1 a few years ago (his name slips my mind) that didn't, and he impressed me.
Once again, no easy answer.

As happy as i am that my thread hit 5 pages :) it disappointsments no one went in the direction i was hoping would get hit on.

namely the blatant bullying and strong arm tactics Wally is willing to use to stifle anyone who shows the least bit of disdain for thier guerilla business tactics.
Remember just cause "big brother smiley" has to smite you and destroy you and grind you under thier multi billion dollar boot. doesnt mean they dont love you and it's only for the collective good they do this.
I belive these lawsuits they are threating are truly baseless and with out a legal leg to stand on for the following reasons:

Suing the graphics company for trademark infringement is BS, they dont own the images, didnt create the images and are not marketing the images, they are simply manufacturing a graphicaly imbued product to the specification giving and required by thier client.
This company sadly had to tuck tail and run because simply they would be bankrupt and out of business before Wally exhausted the second appeal.
To a corporation like Wally pissing away 3 million in tax deductable legal fee's is nothing!, to you or me???

As far the creator of the parody site, i'm pleased to see that there are people willing to step up and help defend him. there are alot of precedents set in our legal system defending parody/opinion and all are set under the free speech rights granted us by the constitution.
Imagine a world were GW or President Dick could sue not only the artist, but the paper, and the distribution company as well as your corner 7-11 over an unflattering editorial cartoon.
Somewhere there is a founding father doing circles over the legal system thats turned into a contest of monies as opposed to a contest of whats right and moral!

I think the only reason that the direction you were hoping for Vel was not taken is that it was addressed pretty fully once or twice in the last 6-9 months here.

There have been many, many, many examples of Walmart driving companies out of business, competitors as well as suppliers who were unable to continue operating after Walmart had their way with them.

Walmart = The Borg?

For what its worth. I found this article. Seems both Repubs and Dems are in agreement.


Read it Here (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060423/ap_on_el_ge/wal_mart_politics)