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Silentcerri
04-19-2005, 01:06 PM
Problem is we just do not know who he is.

Moglor
04-19-2005, 01:10 PM
thats...................not..............kool.

Moglor
04-19-2005, 01:11 PM
Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger now is Pope Benedict XVI

Thormir
04-19-2005, 01:33 PM
Washington Post has a profile here (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22028-2005Apr2.html)

Excerpts:
He wrote a letter of advice to U.S. bishops on denying communion to politicians who support abortion rights, which some observers viewed as a slam at Democratic presidential candidate John F. Kerry. He publicly cautioned Europe against admitting Turkey to the European Union and wrote a letter to bishops around the world justifying that stand on the grounds that the continent is essentially Christian in nature. In another letter to bishops worldwide, he decried a sort of feminism that makes women "adversaries" of men.
...
In 1981, John Paul II appointed Ratzinger to his current post as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican's guardian of orthodoxy.
...
He is a lightning rod for church liberals who see the hierarchy as reactionary. Ratzinger was active in stamping out liberation theology, with its emphasis on grass-roots activism to fight poverty and its association with Marxist movements.

He once called homosexuality a tendency toward "intrinsic moral evil" and dismissed the uproar over priestly pedophilia in the United States as a "planned campaign" against the church.

Grift3r
04-19-2005, 01:58 PM
He once called homosexuality a tendency toward "intrinsic moral evil" and dismissed the uproar over priestly pedophilia in the United States as a "planned campaign" against the church.

Highlighted for idiocy.

mirdorr
04-19-2005, 04:09 PM
Heh.

"Attention American Catholics. STFU."

Silentcerri
04-19-2005, 04:33 PM
Does this guy follow this Papal Prophecy ?

9. The Glory of the Olive. The Order of St. Benedict has said this Pope will come from their order. It is interesting that Jesus gave his apocalyptic prophecy about the end of time from the Mount of Olives. This Pope will reign during the beginning of the tribulation Jesus spoke of. The 111th prophesy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The Order of Saint Benedict has claimed that this pope will come from their ranks. Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil.

fildien
04-19-2005, 04:35 PM
This is seriously getting creepy.

Kelraz Bladesinger
04-19-2005, 04:39 PM
I think whats creepier is that after thousands of years people haven't quite realized that if there is a god (and I believe there is) that you wouldn't need an elected official to speak to him for you ... whats so special about the election process that the day someone is selected for Pope-hood they get a direct line to Heaven?

The catholic church is in decline because of the nutty things the higher ups do. God Bless Martin Luther for waking up half the Christian world!

Ibudin
04-19-2005, 04:41 PM
Look at him as well..man hes already a fossil.

fildien
04-19-2005, 04:43 PM
Hey all this apocalyptic stuff reminds me....when is that show Revelations coming on again anyone know?

Sanchek
04-19-2005, 05:07 PM
Ratzinger turned 78 on Saturday. His age clearly was a factor among cardinals who favored a "transitional" pope who could skillfully lead the church as it absorbs John Paul II's legacy, rather than a younger cardinal who could wind up with another long pontificate.
That's pretty rough. Nothing like getting a position because you're going to die soon anyway.

Qaeen
04-19-2005, 05:15 PM
Hey all this apocalyptic stuff reminds me....when is that show Revelations coming on again anyone know?

It's on tonight on Bravo or A&E late I believe. New Episode will be tomorrow night. Only caught half of it last week.

Twinked
04-19-2005, 05:34 PM
That's pretty rough. Nothing like getting a position because you're going to die soon anyway.

If you were around when JP2 was voted in, you would remember the pope just before him was voted in and died within 3 days or so. He was Pope John Paul. People speculated the church didn't like the first JP so they wacked him...

Only time will tell.. This guy is ancient compared to when JP2 was voted in.

mirdorr
04-19-2005, 05:40 PM
that you wouldn't need an elected official

There are tons of reasons to insult the church. But a bit of organization and a designated leader enables someone (that leader) to stand up and say, for instance, "regardless of what your local priest says, carbombing people is not acceptable."

Qaeen
04-19-2005, 05:44 PM
If you were around when JP2 was voted in, you would remember the pope just before him was voted in and died within 3 days or so. He was Pope John Paul. People speculated the church didn't like the first JP so they wacked him...

Only time will tell.. This guy is ancient compared to when JP2 was voted in.

His reign lasted 33 days.

Sanchek
04-19-2005, 05:45 PM
I think whats creepier is that after thousands of years people haven't quite realized that if there is a god (and I believe there is) that you wouldn't need an elected official to speak to him for you ... whats so special about the election process that the day someone is selected for Pope-hood they get a direct line to Heaven?

The catholic church is in decline because of the nutty things the higher ups do. God Bless Martin Luther for waking up half the Christian world!
Does the pope actually claim to be speaking for God, in the present day? I haven't been under that impression at all. I don't pay a lot of attention to the whole thing though.

Twinked
04-19-2005, 06:03 PM
His reign lasted 33 days.

Thanks Qaeen, I knew there was a 3 invovled :rolleyes:

Qaeen
04-19-2005, 06:35 PM
Does the pope actually claim to be speaking for God, in the present day? I haven't been under that impression at all. I don't pay a lot of attention to the whole thing though.

No he does not. He directs the church based on the bible. Some prophecies have been given by previous popes after they have died.

http://www.crystalinks.com/papalprophecies.html

I think the televagilists are the current crop of church types that "speak for god"

Binuven
04-19-2005, 07:06 PM
Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger now is Pope Benedict XVI

According to the prophecy of St. Malachy, this is the brief description of the second last Pope.....

Gloria olivæ
The Benedictine order traditionally said this Pope would come from their order.

Believe it or not, kind of gives you chills hehe.

Sumamael
04-19-2005, 07:54 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes


Pope Benedict XVI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI) (Gloria Olivae)

The next motto is Gloria Olivae, the glory of the olive. Prior to the papal conclave, this motto led to speculation that the next pontiff would be from the Order of Saint Benedict (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Saint_Benedict), whose symbols include the olive branch. Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, selected in April 2005, is not a Benedictine, but did pick Benedict XVI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI) as his papal name, which might be regarded as a fulfillment of this prophecy.

Alternatively, less specific interpreters have predicted that the next pope will promote world peace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace) (as in an olive branch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_symbol#The_dove_and_the_olive_branch)). Pope Benedict XVI has chosen "Pax" (peace) as his papal motto (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Papal_motto&action=edit). The self-proclaimed Pope Clemente Dom*nguez y Gómez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clemente_Dom%EDnguez_y_G%F3mez) of the Palmarian Catholic Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmarian_Catholic_Church) claimed that he was the glory of the olive.

There had already been, before the election of pope, a concomitance in two unrelated events occurring on the opening date of the 2005 Conclaves. First, a Turkish presidential candidate won overnight the northern Cyprus elections favouring re-unification peace talks of the two sectors; the Cyprus flag has two inter-locking olive branches in it. Secondly, the Italian Prime Minister has seriously been considering resigning and holding early general elections succumbing to pressure from the leftist opposition called l'Ulivo.



To clear things up.

Binuven
04-19-2005, 08:38 PM
Aye, I know what you're saying hehe.

But the fact that the similarities are there is what I'm talking about.

Understand also that prophecy is never clear, cut, dry and simple. It was never meant for the average person to read, nor was it written to say anything specific. The main reason (in most cases anyway) being the survival of the prophecy and the person that wrote it down.

Also keep in mind that sometimes things get lost in translation. I'm just playing.....excuse the pun....."Devils Advocate", in that for those that do believe this prophecy is being fulfilled, they must have goosebumps the size of grapefruits now hehe. :rolleyes:

Sanchek
04-19-2005, 08:40 PM
What was that prophecy that had three events, two of which were fulfilled exactly, and the third is being kept secret or destroyed by the Catholic church? I remember reading about it, but it's been awhile. Fatima maybe? It sounded like that, I think.

Grumblin
04-19-2005, 08:42 PM
Oh christ. He just slewed some *very very generalised* sentences down. People can interpret them in any way they see fit, and it's easy to apply an extremely generalised comment to an event. Some of those justifications they gave were akin to "he was born with a sheep who was once owned by a man who was born under the north star"

I call bullshit, bloody supersticious fanatics.

Binuven
04-19-2005, 08:43 PM
Phew! I'm not going insane then hehe.

I remember the same thing Sanchek. Apparently they're stored in the Vatican vaults. Some rumor that the Pope that was supposed to reveal what the third letter said died of a heart attack shortly after and that it was because of this the church decided not to release the third letter. Again, just stating what I remember hearing growing up in a Catholic household.

What I wouldn't give to have 24 hours in the Vatican vaults hehe. Imagine! 2000 years of history, what could be down there?......

Binuven
04-19-2005, 08:45 PM
Oh christ. He just slewed some *very very generalised* sentences down. People can interpret them in any way they see fit, and it's easy to apply an extremely generalised comment to an event. Some of those justifications they gave were akin to "he was born with a sheep who was once owned by a man who was born under the north star"

I call bullshit, bloody supersticious fanatics.


That's your call bro :) That's why you have free will and your own point of view.

Sumamael
04-19-2005, 09:21 PM
I have to admit that I'm looking forward to the fulfillment of the prophecy.

Call me sick and twisted for looking forward to the destruction of Rome and the exile of the next pope, but hell doomsday is fun for the whole family! :devil

Grumblin
04-19-2005, 09:32 PM
The Labor of the Son. JOHN PAUL II. 1978-2005. Pope John Paul II was the most traveled Pope in history. He circled the globe numerous times, preaching to huge audiences everywhere he went. He survived an assassination attempt. He has written a book which has enjoyed a large circulation. Like the sun which never ceases to labor and provides light daily, this Pope has been incessant. He was born on May 18, 1920. On that date in the morning there was a near total eclipse of the sun over Europe. Prophecy - The 110th Pope is "De Labore Solis" (Of the Solar Eclipse, or, From the Toil of the Sun). Like the sun he came out of the East (Poland).


How can you take that seriously?

Sumamael
04-19-2005, 09:41 PM
How can you take that seriously?

Of course not, I only take one thing seriously in life, the Internal Revenue Service. :o

Thormir
04-19-2005, 09:47 PM
Keep in mind, too, that individuals and groups will often court prophecy by making choices that align with possible interpretations. And, for anyone keeping track of biblical and Nostradamus-style "prophecies," interpretation of favored translations, "forgetting" events that never came to pass, and re-interpreting prophecy following failure of predictions are all commonplace.

Qaeen
04-19-2005, 10:00 PM
I have to admit that I'm looking forward to the fulfillment of the prophecy.

Call me sick and twisted for looking forward to the destruction of Rome and the exile of the next pope, but hell doomsday is fun for the whole family! :devil

Well the destruction of Rome will be during the tribulation period which lasts for 7 years.

Check out www.raptureready.com (http://www.raptureready.com/) for some more information about the tribulation and rapture.


edit: Not advocating anything just advising find out more about what the prophecy entails.

Kelraz Bladesinger
04-19-2005, 10:04 PM
Ah Sanchek you may be correct, they might not claim to speak to god. my mistake if thats not true anymore.

Thormir
04-20-2005, 08:27 AM
Does the pope actually claim to be speaking for God, in the present day? I haven't been under that impression at all. I don't pay a lot of attention to the whole thing though.
The pope is "Christ's vicar on earth," but I don't know that he explicitly "speaks for God" in Catholic belief. Under certain conditions, per the First Vatican Council held in 1870, the church holds the pope to be infallible. The conditions are somewhat strict, being limited to outlining matters of church doctrine that do not conflict with prior doctrine (whether a reiteration of the current teachings of the church or a new teaching). From First Vatican Council:
We teach and define that it is a dogma Divinely revealed that the Roman pontiff when he speaks ex cathedra, that is when in discharge of the office of pastor and doctor of all Christians, by virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine regarding faith or morals to be held by the universal Church, by the Divine assistance promised to him in Blessed Peter, is possessed of that infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer willed that his Church should be endowed in defining doctrine regarding faith or morals, and that therefore such definitions of the Roman pontiff are of themselves and not from the consent of the Church irreformable.
Only once since 1870 has a pope issued an infallible statement of dogma that wasn't a reiteration of prior teaching: in 1950, Pope Pius XII explicitly defined the "Assumption of Mary" -- the idea that Mary received an express ticket to Heaven following her physical death -- as doctrine (this seems like a no-brainer prima facie, but there are theological considerations).

This declaration of infallibility didn't suit many Catholics well at the time, resulting in a number of splinter groups collectively known as the "Old Catholic Church."

Esbat
04-20-2005, 04:29 PM
This new pope was a member of the Hitler Youth. I'm still trying to figure out of Godwin's Law applies to and argument about him or not.

Thormir
04-20-2005, 05:22 PM
At his age during the war, it was nigh mandatory (required by law, I think) to be in the Hitler Youth. He did serve in the German army but deserted in 1944 (an act punishable by bullet). He's not the kind of pope that makes me shiver with excitement at his coming term, but calling him a Nazi misses the mark and (per Godwin's Law) renders that argument null (without confirming evidence anyway).

Binuven
04-20-2005, 07:56 PM
This is awesome!

An actual civilized discussion on both sides of the fence and nobody is calling each other names!..........

Maybe the prophecy is coming true!

"The 8th Sign.....and there will be peace on the Ayo Ro boards before the Anti Christ's coming......and his name will be Trilkin...." :p

Esbat
04-20-2005, 08:57 PM
At his age during the war, it was nigh mandatory (required by law, I think) to be in the Hitler Youth


Look up the Edelweiss Pirates.

As for invoking Godwin's Law: I don't think it applies in this case because he *was* a Nazi. I wonder how many Hail Marys one has to say to atone for that.

Sanchek
04-20-2005, 08:58 PM
Question. Is the pope's regenal name predetermined, or does he get some choice in it?

As in, why JP then JPII and now Benedict?

Talid
04-20-2005, 09:03 PM
Question. Is the pope's regenal name predetermined, or does he get some choice in it?

As in, why JP then JPII and now Benedict?
The pope chooses his own name and it is supposed to reflect somewhat upon what he wants to do with his term

Sanchek
04-20-2005, 09:05 PM
It seems bizarre that he'd willingly choose the name that was in that "prophesy".

Talid
04-20-2005, 09:14 PM
It seems bizarre that he'd willingly choose the name that was in that "prophesy".
Uh I REALLY don't think that dumb prophesy has any bearing on how he chose his name

http://www.catholic-pages.com/pope/name.asp might help a little but probably not much

Sanchek
04-20-2005, 09:18 PM
Oh, I doubt he chose it because of that. It just seems odd that he'd know that was widely circulated with a specific name, and then choose it anyway. That still doesn't give me any real faith in the "prophecy", but it does seem like a needlessly validating choice.

Thormir
04-20-2005, 10:05 PM
Some background on the papal Benedicts. Not from the most scholarly source (picked it up from Keith Olberman's blog), but it's not a scholarly paper either:

As the unfortunate Cardinal Luciani in 1978 was so careful to recognize those who went before him, the former Cardinal Ratzinger is now invoking the memories of the other fifteen Benedicts.

The first, chosen in 579, is so obscure that the only trace of his pontificate is a document showing he granted one an Italian estate to a local Abbot. The second Benedict, we are told, was a great singer — an unusual resume for a Pope. The third had to fight off an invasion by the Saracens.

Numbers four to nine are generally conceded to mark the darkest period in Papal history — one was deposed, one was killed, one was bribed into resigning. The tenth was literally the "anti-Pope" during the pontificate of Nicholas the second in the 11th Century, but Benedict the 11th made peace with the French.

The 12th we'll get to presently; the 13th was pretty much nondescript; the 14th was feisty (during an argument with the French ambassador, he once seized the man, shoved him into the Papal chair and said "Be Pope yourself!"). And the 15th, who ascended in 1914, tried to keep the Vatican neutral during the first World War and publicly pleaded with world leaders not to fight — becoming in the process the first Pope to correspond with an American president. There is little doubt the new Pope is trying to evoke that Benedict, and the Saint of the same name, and even the word itself (benedictum) meaning, simply, “blessing.”

But then there was Benedict the 12th and one almost wishes there was still a place for his earthy self-deprecation at the Vatican. Elected in 1342 — on the first ballot, and when the Popes still ruled more or less in hiding at Avignon, France — he was Cardinal Jacques Fournier, and he evidently wasn't too happy about his new job.

To his fellow cardinals he said, quote, "you have elected a jackass."

Certainly that is not the Benedict which the former Cardinal Ratzinger hopes to emulate. But the selection does raise the question: What does the name mean in the end? Does the name shape the Pope or does the Pope shape the name?

If we could ask one past Pope for an answer, it would be the Cardinal who advanced to the title in 468. He became Pope Hilarius. At the time, the word — in Latin and Greek alike — still principally meant gracious or cheerful, and had not yet assumed its current sense of stand-up comedy.

They made him a Saint — possibly because he’d have to carry that name throughout history. But it’s instructive to note that there has yet to be a Pope Hilarius II.

Thormir
04-22-2005, 11:58 AM
An interesting article (http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=631615) on the new pope and his past, particularly dealing with his involvement of Nazi Germany. One quote stands out:
Documented evidence shows that the cardinal [Ratzinger's mentor, Cardinal Michael von Faulhaber] visited Hitler's mountain retreat during the 1930s and was entertained to lunch by the Führer in person. During their meeting, Von Faulhaber is on record as telling Hitler that the Church saw him as an "authority chosen by God, to whom we owe respect".

Moglor
04-22-2005, 12:37 PM
im calling bullshit on that right now.

Sumamael
04-22-2005, 12:50 PM
Honestly, does it really matter if his childhood was influenced by nazi ideology? Everyone seems to riding on that these days.

He was elected, he is the pope. He has very conservative views on popular topics like contraception and all that stuff. If you are liberal then you have all rights to dislike him, end of story. Don't really need any further excuses for that in my opinion.

But again, I can talk easily, I'm not religious, didn't have a roman catholic in my family for at least 3 generations and while I do believe in the existence of the Almighty I'm not afraid of eternal damnation....so I'm just an outsider. :cool:

Talid
04-22-2005, 02:34 PM
An interesting article (http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=631615) on the new pope and his past, particularly dealing with his involvement of Nazi Germany. One quote stands out:
Part of that is because of Hitler's search for church artifacts. (according to a documentary i watched years ago, i wish i could remember the name)

Do you really think you can get something like that from someone who you called a deplorable human being?

Thormir
04-22-2005, 02:54 PM
Do you really think you can get something like that from someone who you called a deplorable human being?
Sure, if you hold a gun to the family. But yes, easier to catch flies with honey than vinegar, as they say.

Gulor Gularin
04-22-2005, 03:36 PM
Here is my main concern about the new pope...

http://web.archive.org/web/20020607141945/http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/DailyNews/2020_Vatican_coverup_020426.html

Looks like he has been instrumental in some of the covering up of sexual abuses in the church for quite some time... if the article is accurate.

Talid
04-22-2005, 03:59 PM
Well his job partly involved damage control. The pedophile priest scandals are doing a lot of damage so he had to downplay that I guess. I'm not making excuses for him, he's the guy responsible for bringing that fucking Bernard Law to the vatican after he was removed from Boston.

Prezto
04-22-2005, 08:08 PM
Part of that is because of Hitler's search for church artifacts. (according to a documentary i watched years ago, i wish i could remember the name) I know!http://www.filmsite.org/posters/raid.jpg

Talid
04-22-2005, 11:36 PM
I know!http://www.filmsite.org/posters/raid.jpg



Um Last Crusade you IDIOT

But I didn't mean a documentary that said "Hey dumbass hitler searched for lost christian artifacts in order to prove germany blahblahblah" it was about how his search effected the places they looked and what it was supposed to prove and it mentioned the Catholic Church and the Vatican a lot and the narrator was very British if anyone can identify this documentary it would me a lot to me

Maniacles
04-26-2005, 08:44 AM
There are tons of reasons to insult the church. But a bit of organization and a designated leader enables someone (that leader) to stand up and say, for instance, "regardless of what your local priest says, carbombing people is not acceptable."



Actually, a more appropriate quote in this case would be "regardless of what your local priest says, bombing abortion clinics is not acceptable."

Err, Raiders of the Lost Arc is appropriate here. What do you think the Arc of the Covanent was? A NON religious artifact?

Jaeydee
04-26-2005, 11:59 AM
I dunno bout y'all, but I found this whole Pope selection and everything extremely interesting. I'm not Catholic, far from it actually. Yet I found myself glued to the tv when he was getting ready to walk out for the first time. I almost missed class for it too!

My personal theory on this Pope is based on his age. He won't be around too long, giving some of the newer appointments a chance to be better known, as well as the Cardinals and such in places like Latin America and India. So he was just elected because they knew he'd continue with previous rule, which they aren't ready to give up on.

As for the prophecies...they are interesting, but I don't think the devil is gonna be the next Pope! If he is...well...I guess the world will be over and we won't have to worry about it much longer! ;)

fildien
04-26-2005, 03:54 PM
Yes this is long, but I think relevant.


CHILDREN: [talking]
MUM: Now, whose teatime is it?
CHILDREN: Mine!
MUM: Come on, now. Out you go. Now, uh, Vincent, Tessa, Valerie, Janine,
Martha, Andrew, Thomas, Walter, Pat, Linda, Michael, Evadne, Alice,
Dominique, and Sasha, it's your bedtime.
CHILDREN: Aww, Mum!
MUM: Now, don't argue! Laura, Alfred, Nigel, Annie, Simon, Amanda,--
DAD: Wait! I've got something to tell the whole family.
MUM: Oh, quick. Go and get the others in, Gordon.
CHILDREN: What could it be? Shhh...
DAD: The mill's closed! There's no more work. We're destitute.
CHILDREN: [talking]
DAD: Come in, my little loves. I've got no option but to sell you all for
scientific experiments.
CHILDREN: [whining]
DAD: No, no. That's the way it is, my loves. Blame the Catholic church for
not letting me wear one of those little rubber things. Oh, they've done
some wonderful things in their time. They preserved the might and
majesty, the mystery of the Church of Rome, and the sanctity of the
sacraments, the indivisible oneness of the Trinity, but if they'd let me
wear one of those little rubber things on the end of my cock, we wouldn't
be in the mess we are now.
BOY: Couldn't Mummy have worn some sort of pessary?
DAD: Not if we're going to remain members of the fastest growing religion in
the world, my boy.
MUM: Ehhh, he's right.
DAD: You see, we believe--
[piano music]
Well, let me put it like this. [singing]
There are Jews in the world.
There are Buddhists.
There are Hindus and Mormons, and then
There are those that follow Mohammed, but
I've never been one of them.
[music]
I'm a Roman Catholic,
And have been since before I was born,
And the one thing they say about Catholics is:
They'll take you as soon as you're warm.

You don't have to be a six-footer.
You don't have to have a great brain.
You don't have to have any clothes on. You're
A Catholic the moment Dad came,

Because
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

CHILDREN: [singing]
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

GIRL: [singing]
Let the heathen spill theirs
On the dusty ground.
God shall make them pay for
Each sperm that can't be found.

CHILDREN: [singing]
Every sperm is wanted.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood.

MUM: [singing]
Hindu, Taoist, Mormon,
Spill theirs just anywhere,
But God loves those who treat their
Semen with more care.

MEN: [singing]
Every sperm is sacred.
[clunk]
Every sperm is great.
WOMEN: [singing]
If a sperm is wasted,...
CHILDREN: [singing]
...God gets quite irate.

PRIEST: [singing]
Every sperm is sacred.
BRIDE and GROOM: [singing]
Every sperm is good.
NANNIES: [singing]
Every sperm is needed...
CARDINALS: [singing]
...In your neighbourhood!

CHILDREN: [singing]
Every sperm is useful.
Every sperm is fine.
FUNERAL CORTEGE: [singing]
God needs everybody's.
MOURNER #1: Mine!
MOURNER #2: And mine!
CORPSE: And mine!

NUN: [singing]
Let the Pagan spill theirs
O'er mountain, hill, and plain.
HOLY STATUES: [singing]
God shall strike them down for
Each sperm that's spilt in vain.

EVERYONE: [singing]
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood.

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite iraaaaate!

DAD: So, you see my problem, little ones: I can't keep you all here any
longer.
GIRL: Speak up!
DAD: I can't keep you all here any longer! God has blessed us so much, I
can't afford to feed you anymore.
NIGEL: Couldn't you have your balls cut off?
DAD: Hohh, it's not as simple as that, Nigel. God knows all! He'd see
through such a cheap trick. What we do to ourselves, we do to Him.
GIRL: You could have had them pulled off in an accident.
CHILDREN: [talking]
DAD: No. No, children. I know you're trying to help, but, believe me,...
CHILDREN: Ohh...
DAD: ...me mind's made up. I've given this long and careful thought, and it
has to be medical experiments for the lot of you.
CHILDREN: Ohh. Oh. Oh...

CHILDREN: [singing mournfully]
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,...
MR. HARRY BLACKITT: Look at them, bloody Catholics, filling the bloody world
up with bloody people they can't afford to bloody feed.
MRS. BLACKITT: What are we dear?
MR. BLACKITT: Protestant, and fiercely proud of it.
MRS. BLACKITT: Hmm. Well, why do they have so many children?
MR. BLACKITT: Because... every time they have sexual intercourse, they have
to have a baby.
MRS. BLACKITT: But it's the same with us, Harry.
MR. BLACKITT: What do you mean?
MRS. BLACKITT: Well, I mean, we've got two children, and we've had sexual
intercourse twice.
MR. BLACKITT: That's not the point. We could have it any time we wanted.
MRS. BLACKITT: Really?
MR. BLACKITT: Oh, yes, and, what's more, because we don't believe in all that
Papist claptrap, we can take precautions.
MRS. BLACKITT: What, you mean... lock the door?
MR. BLACKITT: No, no. I mean, because we are members of the Protestant
Reformed Church, which successfully challenged the autocratic power of the
Papacy in the mid-sixteenth century, we can wear little rubber devices to
prevent issue.
MRS. BLACKITT: What d'you mean?
MR. BLACKITT: I could, if I wanted, have sexual intercourse with you,...
MRS. BLACKITT: Oh, yes, Harry.
MR. BLACKITT: ...and, by wearing a rubber sheath over my old feller, I could
insure... that, when I came off, you would not be impregnated.
MRS. BLACKITT: Ooh!
MR. BLACKITT: That's what being a Protestant's all about. That's why it's
the church for me. That's why it's the church for anyone who respects
the individual and the individual's right to decide for him or herself.
When Martin Luther nailed his protest up to the church door in fifteen-
seventeen, he may not have realised the full significance of what he was
doing, but four hundred years later, thanks to him, my dear, I can wear
whatever I want on my John Thomas,... [sniff] ...and, Protestantism
doesn't stop at the simple condom! Oh, no! I can wear French Ticklers
if I want.
MRS. BLACKITT: You what?
MR. BLACKITT: French Ticklers. Black Mambos. Crocodile Ribs. Sheaths that
are designed not only to protect, but also to enhance the stimulation of
sexual congress.
MRS. BLACKITT: Have you got one?
MR. BLACKITT: Have I got one? Uh, well, no, but I can go down the road any
time I want and walk into Harry's and hold my head up high and say in a
loud, steady voice, 'Harry, I want you to sell me a condom. In fact,
today, I think I'll have a French Tickler, for I am a Protestant.'
MRS. BLACKITT: Well, why don't you?
MR. BLACKITT: But they-- Well, they cannot, 'cause their church never made
the great leap out of the Middle Ages and the domination of alien
episcopal supremacy.
NARRATOR #1: But, despite the attempts of Protestants to promote the idea of
sex for pleasure, children continued to multiply everywhere.

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Bylimet Spiritwalker
04-26-2005, 04:12 PM
Hehe, I have the Meaning of Life DVD just for rainy patch days:rolleyes: