Upcoming 9/11 movie... mixed feelings myself.

http://www.comcast.net/entertainment/index.jsp?cat=ENTERTAINMENT&fn=/2005/07/09/174394.html

I guess if you think 4 years isnt terribly long of a time...

We all know what happened. Why re-create it just to live it all over again? :(

The premise seems fixed on a couple individuals and their struggle within the context of the larger event. Followed through in that way, it doesn't bother me. If the film's focus turns on exploitative spectacle, I don't think it'll face a welcome reception.

We all know what happened. Why re-create it just to live it all over again? :(


Bingo... No interest here man. That would be way to easy to spin it even slightly and end up pissing off a whole lot of folks.. No thanks once was MORE then enough.

They should put a majority of the profits into charities that will benefit FDNY, NYPD, the families, etc. Then, I'd go see it. Otherwise, I'm really disinterested in it. Seems pretty exploitative, and just gives publicity to the whole mess; which is what the Al Qaeda guys wanted in the first place.

If only they had cast Cage as Superman. :(

If the film's focus turns on exploitative spectacle, I don't think it'll face a welcome reception.


Hard to figure how it could be anything other with the current crop of crapola coming out of hollywood. I think the idea of making a movie about this event needs to be put on the shelf for another 10-15 years. By then we might even have a handle on the whereabouts of Osama and his band of merry goat-fookers, so that the movie will not be a propaganda tool for him.

Upcoming 9/11 movie... mixed feelings myself.

http://www.comcast.net/entertainment/index.jsp?cat=ENTERTAINMENT&fn=/2005/07/09/174394.html

Sad world we live in :(

We all know what happened. Why re-create it just to live it all over again? :(

We all know what happened in world war 2 also. How many major tragedies are there that haven't been made into movies?

This could be an excellent movie. The 'movies suck right now'' argument is just silly. Its good to see that Oliver Stone is doing it, I could see him pulling it off. And he certainly has experience making movies on touchy subjects (platoon?). On the other hand, I can think of a total of *1* movie that I ever took nicholas cage seriously in.

This argument was going to happen no matter how long hollywood waited to make a movie about 9/11. I'm just glad the first 'big' movie about it seems to have been put into (mostly)capable hands. We'll have to wait and see.

Does anyone know how long it was before a movie was made about WWII? I'm betting a lot longer then 4 years. But to be honest, with this countries incredibly short attention span, I'm surprised we don't already have a bunch of 9/11 movies.

Does anyone know how long it was before a movie was made about WWII? I'm betting a lot longer then 4 years. But to be honest, with this countries incredibly short attention span, I'm surprised we don't already have a bunch of 9/11 movies.

There were "docu-dramas" (more propaganda than informative. See, not much has changed in 60 years) during the war, including an impressive one of Midway that was later used in the 1972 behemoth with Heston.

Fictionalized accounts of WW2 started showing up about 1947, but those were pretty much all heroic shlock until the 60s when you started getting treatments slightly more real than the galiant American meltingpot charging across the field to slay the Hun and Yellow Peril losing only that cynical city punk that had just started being nice to the plucky farmboy.

It's only really been in the last 15 years that you've seen WW2 movies that are both historically grounded and not quite so rosy-eyed about it. The Longest Day in particular was deliberately edited in such a way to make the initial D-Day landings on Omaha in particular look less costly than they were. I understand different versions of that are floating around, I haven't looked into it in depth.


There is a somewhat interesting parallel in that we have a lot of real footage of both WW2 and 9/11, little of which seems to have gotten out to the public. The War Department caught nearly the entirety of 1943-45 on film but kept a lid on most of it, which is probably badly deteriorating by now. Despite all the cameras pointed at the towers when they fell, it's fairly rare to see many street-level shots other than the one of people running from the debris cloud, and the lockdown on footage of the Pentagon crash has been one of the talking points for conspiracy types that think it was all a Neocon Elite plot.

Hollywood movies with John Wayne and Anthony Quinn started coming out in '43. There were a good dozen or so Hollywood treatments of the war by its close. Like Malse said, most were based on actual events and/or special units of the Armed Forces ( like Flying Seebeas ) and definately were the "best foot forward" type of movies.

That said, I don't like the idea of this movie. I am even less excited about Oliver Stone doing it.

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Thats "The Fighting Seabees," not flying. When you see a bulldozer fly, come see me. It was a propaganda movie, very true in that sense but back then sometimes those were needed. Who is going to show movies of anything less than feats of heroism and ordinary people doing extraordinary things in the line of duty? Anyway, the Seabees still exist and we all have to see that movie prior to being sent to our first duty stations. It helps get "Newbees" in the right frame of mind. BTW, I say 'we" because I am a Seabee. As for a 9/11 movie, is anyone surprised? It will make money, even if in poor taste. Perhaps it won't be though. Maybe it might stand as a reminder of why there is the war on terror.

We all know what happened. Why re-create it just to live it all over again? :(

Because Hollywood is virtually bereft of new ideas. Look around. The big movies this year are adapted from comics (Batman, FF), a prequel (Sith) or complete remakes of older movies / TV shows(War of the Worlds, Honeymooners, Dukes of Hazzard).

Kingdom of Heaven was this year's Alexander which was last year's Troy...which was adapted from the Illiad.

While I enjoy seeing movie adaptations of comics I love, that should not be the only thing to look forward to.

Actually 2 of my favorite movies I've seen this year were totally original. (Crash and the Machinist). Its not so much that Hollywood is out of ideas, there's plenty or original or wierd small movies. It's that movies based on established properties are a better bet for making money. As sad as it may be, the general public is more likely to go see a movie about something they're familiar with, then something totally unique.

I dont care if Lucas, Speilberg, Stone, Scorsasi we all teaming up, there is no reason for a movie to be made. We all saw it, it was one of the most extensively covered things in the media EVER, if i were the families of the dead i would be up in arms about the situation.

How would Oliver Stone feel if someone killed his wife and then 2 years later makes a big movie about it so that its all over TV again in the form of trailers....

Because Hollywood is virtually bereft of new ideas.

Seems pretty exploitative, and just gives publicity to the whole mess; which is what the Al Qaeda guys wanted in the first place.

Agreed and agreed. I can understand about WWII, but this just seems.. well, in bad taste.

A documentary (http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/07/18/tv.flight93.discovery.ap/index.html) coming up about Flight 93. If well received, it may break the ice on similar projects. Not something I'm keen on viewing, however. Bad day.

I hope they show Doctor Doom crying

Actually, I rather hope this reminds us how horrible 9/11 was.

Too many sniveling nancies are bitching about what we do, and forget why we got steamed in the first place.

Fandros

Actually, I rather hope this reminds us how horrible 9/11 was.

Too many sniveling nancies are bitching about what we do, and forget why we got steamed in the first place.

Fandros

Fandros hit it on the head.

One of the most succesful ways to win any war is to gain the support of the populace of your country. What better way to do that than to use the entertainment industry. North Vietnam was very successful at it.

World War II was succesfully fought on the homefront long before we had any significant success on the war front, one of the best ways is to demonize the enemy (much as the Muslim extremists have been very successful at doing to the USA) then to create hero's out of those who fight them. Unfortunately the Bush administration has been slow to learn and slow to look back on history as the best lesson in the war on terror.

Unfortunately with Iraq being the potential quagmire that it is, many of our populace has taken this to be the measure of success in the war on terror. I do realize that the Bush administration is the culpable party in the belief and feeling that has been purveyed, but the best way to deal with that is to wait till' 08 and be sure to vote in someone with a sensible and realistic plan.