Maybe you heard about this (http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/01/30/denmark.cartoon.ap/index.html).

In short, a danish paper published caricatures of Muhammad, causing an uproar in muslim communauty and countries, as well as a boycott of danish products (there is any?? :p ).

I'm not a person of faith, therefor I have a hard time understanding the amount of anger displayed. Ok picturing the Prophet is bad, ok putting a bomb on His head is bad, but can't they get over it? Do they think people will look at these pics and think "oh my, it must be true!!"?

Overall, do you think there is a line not to cross with "religion" and "ethnicity" in term of humor? Or maybe it's a question of timing? (one would wonder when it will ever be time for making fun of Islam... :rolleyes: )

I deal with this a lot at work, since given free reign my students would make fun of basically everything under the sun. I think it's more about having some degree of respect for the world around you and other people's beliefs. Some people hold things to be important and sacred, a dying trend, and it's important to them to defend what they believe. It doesn't even have to be religious - it might be comparable to being offended over comments about your mother or that new car you love. It's all about respect.

The other side is that you have people standing up for what they think is important. One group didn't show respect, and rather than just putting up with it the Muslim population in this case balked at tolerating that. I've got to give them at least that much, since I get offended at comic portrayals of my religion.

On the other hand I was able to laugh at Dogma, and I never burst into a room with a gun demanding apologies. The Islamic side of the story loses a lot of credibility when they resort directly to violence.

During a surprise barracks inspection (Viet Nam era) the base commander expressed outrage at a "Wanted" poster of Jesus hanging on the inside of a locker door, but was quite alright with the assorted "porn" found inside most lockers.

The poster expressed only those things we all have been taught, that this was a man who taught peace and love, and gathered followers as he wandered, and who embraced his enemies. It was actually quite funny in the context of the times, and would probably elicit some of the same reactions pro and con now, with another "war" upon us.

Dang I wanted to see the cartoons.

Buy Danish!

The Islamic side of the story loses a lot of credibility when they resort directly to violence.

Exactly...makes the cartoons look all the more accurate:

included an image of the prophet wearing a turban shaped as a bomb with a burning fuse.

They have right to stop buying Danish products(even though it was a newspaper that did it, not the Government), to have a protest, but what they did only makes them, and their religion, look all the worse.

I thought Dogma was hilarious btw.

Think I'll have a Danish for breakfast :')

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Yeah, they're getting pissy about the wrong problems.

Just think if they found something like this (http://jesusdressup.com/) ...

Seriously, there are some things you just shouldn't make fun of.. but then some things while they may be in poor taste, don't exactly warrant a Jihad over. Way to be (in)tolerant!

I thought Dogma was hilarious btw.



Every time we went after Cazic Thule in Time, I was reminded of the demon in the bar.

Edit: If you watched this movie on Comedy Central or other cable channels, the bar "shit-demon" scene was cut out. Best to watch the uncut DVD.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4673908.stm

I'm really amused, it is probably not funny that there are probably millions of people out there armed with guns, explosives and a copy of Koran who have less reason than a rabid weasel but I still find the whole deal really funny in a twisted way.

Thing is right now the militants are threatening to kidnap more folks in response to the cartoon.

So, using their logic does that dictate we can kill any muslim in response? Regardless if they're involved in the conflict or not?

Talk about ratcheting up a situation to a point it shoots off your own foot...

Fandros

Logic and reason are kind of out the window with that crowd. Write a book, draw a comic, make a movie/documentary about Islam and you risk getting shot by some offended crazy looking to get his name in the books of history and the heavens. No doubt it's dissuaded more than a few observers from in and out of the Middle East from letting their thoughts be known.

huhu, go go France!

France Soir and Le Monde now, who said we were friendly with muslim world?? http://www.ayonae.ro/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Oh and I love some reader comments on your link Suma, "What if jesus was caricatured!?!?".
Like christianism is the last religion to be mocked!!! :rolleyes:

Yeah, if islam is a "religion of tolerance", I would hate to see what an intolerant religion is like.

I'm tickled pink that so many European newspapers are supporting free speech.

huhu, go go France!

France Soir and Le Monde now, who said we were friendly with muslim world?? http://www.ayonae.ro/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Oh and I love some reader comments on your link Suma, "What if jesus was caricatured!?!?".
Like christianism is the last religion to be mocked!!! :rolleyes:

France Soir fired (http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=168242006)its editor for publishing the toons. "go go France!"

More fallout (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/prophet_drawings;_ylt=As9RWwrRklH4tiL5o3.Rtdqs0NUE ;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--).

Geuss we can blame the Danes for starting world WW III (IV?)

France Soir fired (http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=168242006)its editor for publishing the toons. "go go France!"France Soir "french-egyptian" owner fired him. ;)

And here I really believed in the whole freedom of press thing. The whole thing is problematic of course, but if they want their beliefs accepted they should try accepting our beliefs as well.

I have no link, but saw on the news this morning a new controversy regarding an american cartoon showing a veteran multiple- amputee in hospital bed, with the doctor at bedside saying 'I am listing your diagnosis as battle hardened'. This was obviously a shot at Rumsfeld's comment that the US Army is now battle-hardened; the Pentagon is calling the cartoon extremely tasteless.

Cartoons have always been a visual form of comment, both pro and con, on the current events of our times. To stifle them is to limit freedom.

They have a tenent in their belief saying slay all the non believers.

Why is anyone suprised that they want to kill us over a cartoon?

It's not like they can want to kill us more than once !! Does this mean they get 140 virgins per kill now?

Fandros

I have no link, but saw on the news this morning a new controversy regarding an american cartoon showing a veteran multiple- amputee in hospital bed, with the doctor at bedside saying 'I am listing your diagnosis as battle hardened'. This was obviously a shot at Rumsfeld's comment that the US Army is now battle-hardened; the Pentagon is calling the cartoon extremely tasteless.

Cartoons have always been a visual form of comment, both pro and con, on the current events of our times.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/toles.jpg

I'm not getting into this argument, but there's a wide gulf of difference between the Joint Chiefs sending a letter to the editor and the Muslims threatening death and destruction down upon the infidels (for the millionth time.)

To stifle them is to limit freedom. Absolutely right. It lets me giggle when I see their readership and stock values plummet too.

the most hilarious thing is that they (the muslim leaders from all over the world) really do believe they can press charges on the Jylland Posten for publishing the pictures.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/toles.jpg

there's a wide gulf of difference between the Joint Chiefs sending a letter to the editor and the Muslims threatening death and destruction down upon the infidels (for the millionth time.)


I don't think any argument is needed, Akipt, since there was not any comparison being made; rather, there was merely another example of a political cartoon shared and the reaction to it. Needless to say, we react much differently in a free society to these cartoons, whether we agree or not with their message or the image used to project the message. The Joint Chiefsa wrote a letter, some advertisers may opt to cancel ads, and some subscribers may cancel as well. On the other hand, there may be some on the far left who will applaud the publication for printing the cartoon. In a free society, we can have these different reactions.

In the Muslim world there is no multiple choice reaction beyond the simplistic either/or......either you are one of us or you are the enemy, and that line is often blurred as well, when one considers the number of Muslims killed by the "holy warriors".

As my friends son would say in regards to the muslims attempting to shut down free speech in a country not run by Muslims...

You're not the boss of me...

Fandros

I do agree that sending a letter is much better than what the fanatics in the muslim world desire over a cartoon. It would suck to have to live in a nation where the leadership advocates an attitude as quoted below.

either you are one of us or you are the enemy

I can't remember, but I know I've heard something similiar to the above quote before. No mind, was probably by some arrogant leader somewhere.

Yeah, cause people destroying large buildings and murdering innocents = a cartoon in poor taste.

Hey look it's the deep end... oh hey and look Rover fell in.

He fell in sometime back. I threw him a lifeline, but apparently he likes the sound of sucking mud.

Edit: I knew that quote didn't look right you fucking twit.

Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime.

Do you agree or disagree with that statement Rover? Yes or No?

Yeah, cause people destroying large buildings and murdering innocents = a cartoon in poor taste.

Hey look it's the deep end... oh hey and look Rover fell in.


HA...I didn't notice where I compared a cartoon to 9/11. Its completely ridiculous to even come close to comparing them. In my mind a cartoon is basically harmless and those that get their panties in a huff over it are retarded...however making a black and white statement such as "either you are one of us or you are the enemy" is not only arrogant but atrocious and ignorant.

I would have thought that someone with your life experience would have come to the realization of how damaging rhetoric like that is.

Do you agree or disagree with that statement Rover? Yes or No?

More importantly, does our administration agree to that statement? Pakistan, willingly or not, harbors considerable support for terrorists; and the 9/11 bunch originated from Saudi Arabia, which has its own share of influential fanatics. Fanatical elements are also involved in the incipient Iraqi government, such as Muqtada al'Sadr, whose theological allegiance lies largely with Iranian mullahs. As is often the case, political realities trump black and white sound bites.

He fell in sometime back. I threw him a lifeline, but apparently he likes the sound of sucking mud.

Edit: I knew that quote didn't look right you fucking twit.



Do you agree or disagree with that statement Rover? Yes or No?


Its a 2 part statement. I don't agree with this part...

Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.

I do wholeheartedly agree with this part...

From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime.

When you get a chance look up this 1st Battalion 8th Marines 1983 let me know what you think.

More importantly, does our administration agree to that statement? Pakistan, willingly or not, harbors considerable support for terrorists; and the 9/11 bunch originated from Saudi Arabia, which has its own share of influential fanatics. Fanatical elements are also involved in the incipient Iraqi government, such as Muqtada al'Sadr, whose theological allegiance lies largely with Iranian mullahs. As is often the case, political realities trump black and white sound bites.

Yeah but when one gets sucked into the sound bite...the mud is even deeper.

Rover...tsk tsk

Comparing the Muslim radicals reaction to a Euro political cartoon to Bush's rallying statement is absurd in the extreme.

Quit trying to paint America in the same corner with a culture that stagnated 2k years ago please...

Fandros

however making a black and white statement such as "either you are one of us or you are the enemy" is not only arrogant but atrocious and ignorant.


Yes, it is arrogant Rover. And I was speaking of the Muslim leaders who make such statements, with their fatwahs and so forth. If you read the post again, slowly, you may be able to keep it in context.

Taking Bush's speech to the nation follwing the 9/11 attacks, when the country needed to hear a strong leader (and keep in mind I detest Bush), and making it analogous to the either/or mentality of the Muslim fanatics is the kind of thing I would expect to hear from the Sheehan handlers.

"either you are one of us or you are the enemy" is not only arrogant but atrocious and ignorant.

I would have thought that someone with your life experience would have come to the realization of how damaging rhetoric like that is.

Sure, but given the full context of the statement. I'd say it was a pretty fair statement. You can't really pull a Switzerland when it comes to terrorism. But then saying you're either with us or against us when it comes to Jihad on an entire country, for allowing it's citizens the rights of a free press, it's a bit different.

In one case, we have the leader of a free nation telling the world we're going to hunt down and destroy the people who attacked us, and murdered innocent people. A valid reason to go to war.

In the other you have groups of people claiming that we're either with them, or against them, In their Jihad against the evil West for printing tastless political satire. A nowhere near anything even remotely valid reason for going to war.

Lets see, with them in the ideas of no freedom of speech, no freedom of the presses, and general sociopathy. or against it.

I'm going to go with the non-sociopaths here and say we need freedoms, and I'm against it.

What about you?

The EU considers action (http://www.eupolitix.com/EN/News/200602/eb82f6ec-3a87-4def-98e8-fbb6295169bc.htm), perhaps even regulating or prohibiting "inciteful" speech.

It is good to see the EU discussing a process to work together toward a solution, as it reinforces the value of the EU as an entity.

On the other hand, caution must be exercised in establishing a precedent that allows the intolerant to dictate policy to the more tolerant. When we are talking about people who claim their prophet and their religion call for the death of any who do not believe and practice said faith, it may be wise to not devote too much time to attempting to appease them only to have a new issue arise calling for more adaptive behavior.

Before long, we would all end up having to wear beards and cover our women from head to toe.:rolleyes:

It is good to see the EU discussing a process to work together toward a solution, as it reinforces the value of the EU as an entity.

On the other hand, caution must be exercised in establishing a precedent that allows the intolerant to dictate policy to the more tolerant. When we are talking about people who claim their prophet and their religion call for the death of any who do not believe and practice said faith, it may be wise to not devote too much time to attempting to appease them only to have a new issue arise calling for more adaptive behavior.

Before long, we would all end up having to wear beards and cover our women from head to toe.:rolleyes:

In other words, we shouldn't set a precedent of appeasing/listening to people just because they threaten to blow things up.

On an entirely personal basis, hysterical whining by the Muslim plebes makes me wish Dubya or some other religious terrorist would take off the kid gloves and give them something to really cry about by bombing Mecca or Medina.

You want to say cultural emasculation of Europe really has gone too far when people are getting fired over cartoons, although the exact same thing would happen in the US if the butt of the joke was a prominent black protrayed in an ethnically insensitive manner.

In other words, we shouldn't set a precedent of appeasing/listening to people just because they threaten to blow things up.

If you do what a group says to avoid them blowing things up, then you can expect them to come back with a new demand accompanied by a threat to blows things up, and that will be followed by another demand with a threat, and so on and so on and so on......just like the Energizer Bunny, it keeps going and going and going.

It is an unfortunate fact of life, which has been acted out over and over.

the exact same thing would happen in the US if the butt of the joke was a prominent black protrayed in an ethnically insensitive manner.

Bullshit. Especially if the black is a conservative.

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http://www.blackcommentator.com/157/157_images/157_emerge.jpg

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take off the kid gloves and give them something to really cry about by bombing Mecca or Medina.

I would bet a years salary that if Mecca was bombed, all other divisions and fighting within the Muslim world would cease and there would be all out warfare against Israel and the EU and the US, with any stragglers left taking on Russia and China for good measure. They will always have time for their infighting, but an assault on the religion itself such as bombing Mecca would represent would be tantamount to the ultimate insult ten times over, and there would be no rest until they had wiped non-believers off the face of the earth, or had been destroyed themselves.

When you have millions making pilgrimages to Mecca annually, where do you think they will go if it is reduced to rubble by a foreign power?

Yes, it is arrogant Rover. And I was speaking of the Muslim leaders who make such statements, with their fatwahs and so forth. If you read the post again, slowly, you may be able to keep it in context.

Taking Bush's speech to the nation follwing the 9/11 attacks, when the country needed to hear a strong leader (and keep in mind I detest Bush), and making it analogous to the either/or mentality of the Muslim fanatics is the kind of thing I would expect to hear from the Sheehan handlers.


I agree that the response to 9/11 was appropriate and I also agree that we needed a rhetorical strength in order to give a level of comfort that our country remained strong.

I also agree that it is retarded for threats to be made over a political cartoon and declare a fatwah over it. But one must also look at it this way. The people in the muslim world will not make any distinctions between words, they take it ALL very literally. Although, as Malse said, it is tempting to just basically bomb the shit out of them, we have to know that would be a very devestaing blow to the existence of humanity.

Look, in order to beat an enemy one needs to understand that enemy. The muslim clerics that are in control are very adept at playing on the reactionary nature of the population. As one can see it doesnt take much to whip them up into a war fervor. One of the biggest reason for our failings in Vietnam was that we neglected, as a whole, to understand both the populace and the enemy. I do believe we are going down that road now.

The response of we will kick their asses or bomb Mecca is EXACTLY the reaction these clerics are looking for from the west. Having spent 6 years as a Marine infantryman it is but the flick of an internal switch that would allow me to have the attitude that the only good muslim is a muslim in my sights.

The words OUR leaders speak can also serve to incite the muslim populace, therein lies the danger.

What should our reaction be? I'm not so sure, but then again I don't matter to Washington and the people in charge. The scary thing is, the group in Washington also doesn't know the answer, and I believe they really don't have a desire to know.

The Middle East is a strange place and historically, although we view them as backward societies most any country that has for lack of a better word "imposed" their ideals on them has gotten burned in the end. The countries there get money from only 2 places, Oil or Foriegn Aid. That should tell you alot about them.

I am certain the answer is to not back down, just as I am certain it is also a bad idea to invade and impose a democratic election on them.

Dear lord,if they go into a rabid frenzy over a cartoon in a non-muslim country.You can just imagine what would happen if we bomed Mecca to oblivion.The very place they pray and bury themselves facing.Not to mention every muslin has to visit Mecca at least once in there lifetime.
I really dont think there mortal shell of a body,could even hold the rage,hate and insanity that would issue forth from every pour and cell of there being.
They would probally all Spontanously Combust in mass,from the sheer shock of it all.
It would take two thousand years or so worth of generations,before they calmed down even a tad.

'as well as a boycott of danish products (there is any?? http://www.ayonae.ro/images/smilies/tongue.gif )'


- Can't beat Danish bacon.

Fuggedaboutit, anyway. The Muslims will give any excuse to burn a European flag and dance around it firing their guns. We can just hope that one of 'em sets themselves alight again in the process.

Or maybe we should start lighting up Mid-East flags and doing the tango?

Hmmm maybe we should donate to the fund for the Egyptians that died on that ferry couple days ago. Make it huge and make the Muslims realize that while we poke fun at everything, we also give a damn about the very culture wishing death upon us.

This is nothing new from the culture that purposely stifles itself in a 400 b.c. culture mindset.

Fandros

except that mohammed wasn't born til 570 A.D.

What I would not give for some statistics on how many of them die each year as a result of bullets falling back to earth after being fired into the air in celebration and/or protest:rolleyes:

I've seen it once before +rep lovin if anyone finds the video/picture of the guy who sets himself on fire trying to burn an american flag.

here elemak

http://www.badsamaritan.com/archives/2001/10/burning_down_the_blouse.php#

edit to add: I found it in google under the first link typing "guy sets himself on fire trying to burn an american flag" lol

have had just about enough about the fucking Muslims and their selective outrage.

http://retecool.com/comments.php?id=13539_0_1_0_C


tensions rise!

Lol. Pigs, alcohol, cigarettes, animals. I think that just about covers everything. I have been trying to maintain my sensibility with regard to muslims, and not give in to the urge to say "all muslims are bad". I am not so sure now. It is just so ridiculous the way they act. I predict that tensions will get worse before they get better. Everytime I am in public and I see an Arab I automatically get suspicious. How can you know where their loyalties lie? I work with an old persian man, but fortunately he is Baha'i so I don't question his loyalties.

A great selection of cartoon images.

For some reason tho, I kept wondering if Freddie Mercury would have hit it off big with the gentleman in those cartoons.:devil

'This is nothing new from the culture that purposely stifles itself in a 400 b.c. culture mindset.'


- What do the Ptolemies have to do with modern day egypt? Not even the same ethnic people, let alone religion.

Pleb.

I threw out a year and was wrong.


Point stands regardless. It's a culture that's been frozen for thousands of years due to it's stifling beliefs.

Fandros

Was the other thread about this not good enough for you?

Selective outrage is right, though. The sudden appearance of all those Danish flags to be burned in front of cameras smells of contrivance.

Frozen for thousand's of years?

Didn't we re-educate you in a previous thread about the history of Islam? From the 7th to the 15th century it was the most advanced religion around. Islamic countries, empires, cities and towns, were more vital and flourishing than their christian counter-parts.

You can only really say that the Muslim world has been culturally "stagnant" for the last 500 years or so, and there you still forget the resurgence of the Mandate countries during the inter-war years.

yay Halo you silly Brit. They were the most advanced for 500 years....

What has it done for itself lately??

Have you been there? Have you seen the cities that barely have a blasted sewer system let alone a functioning integrated society of equals?

No, no you have not or you wouldn't make this a big debate over a silly generalization by myself.

It's a stagnant society where the women are lil better than slaves and it's culture ran by a small sect of men reading from a book written by and for a bloodthirsty warrior turned self proclaimed prophet.

Btw, they want you just as dead as they want me....and our children...and their children...and their children....

Fandros

They don't necessarily want us all dead right off the bat.... they want us all muslim first and subservient to their culture. If we refuse, *then* they want us dead.

I pray we can get off the oil nipple as soon as possible, so we can just let that whole part of the world rot in it's own narrow little world. We'll be happier and they will be happier.

I feel for European countries with large foreign-born islamic populations. They are going to experience a lot of strife over the next few years I think.

*edit* You know I really should not generalize like this. There are a lot of fine folks who happen to be muslim and I really have no beef with them. It just gets hard not to generalize sometimes when you see all the stupidity and hostility coming from the Middle East. My apologies to anyone *not* resorting to violence to express there displeasure about the cartoons, etc.

Was the other thread about this not good enough for you?



ugh.

hit wrong button... Mod wanna do me a favor and fold this into the "humor border" thread?

As an idle thought the other day, wasn't Jedd Iranian?

Didn't he promise to head back to the motherland if we went to war?

*polishes his rifle*

/hands Elemak a hollow-point, scraped across a clove of garlic for added effectiveness.

*edit* You know I really should not generalize like this. There are a lot of fine folks who happen to be muslim and I really have no beef with them. It just gets hard not to generalize sometimes when you see all the stupidity and hostility coming from the Middle East. My apologies to anyone *not* resorting to violence to express there displeasure about the cartoons, etc.

http://www.sorrynorwaydenmark.com/

'What has it done for itself lately??'


- Well don't prattle on that it's been stagnant for thousands of years if you're talking bullshit.

Halting thyself from the cessation of spreading bullshit has ever been a problem for you Halo.

Point stands butthead, it's a stagnant society with no signs of ever moving into the modern world.

Fandros

Frozen for thousand's of years?

Didn't we re-educate you in a previous thread about the history of Islam? From the 7th to the 15th century it was the most advanced religion around. Islamic countries, empires, cities and towns, were more vital and flourishing than their christian counter-parts.
I don't think Islam was the main reason for these nations to rise and shine during that period. These people were muslim. Ok. But that's all, the will to learn and discover didn't come from their religious beliefs, nor it came from christianism when Europe started to rise.

The philosophy beneath Islam didn't change "significantly" since its creation. (pork, women, picturing, etc)

It's somewhat a relief to hear that some of the govt of the ME are denouncing the escalating violence attributed to the overreaction of the Muslim rioters.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183901,00.html

Fandros

MOD NOTE: L2's "I think people..." thread merged into this one, posts inserted chronologically.

Butthead?

Blimey. You are hardcore.

le irony.

edit: on second thought, ill make it a link.

NSFW and may be offensive.


http://grimreaper.ath.cx/~kritte/ihadnoidea.jpg

I haven't had time to read all the way through this thread yet so forgive me if someone else already stated this.

I heard this morning that someone is offering a reward for the muslim community to depict cartoons of the holocaust. This all just makes me laugh.

Wish I could find the link, but it was rumored yesterday that 3 of the cartoons being spread about were actual fabrications by a Danish Iman.

Guess he wasn't getting enough mayhem generated by the originals.

Fandros

yep, some of the pictures (i know for sure the one portraying mohammed as a pig was) was fabricated, and the embassy burnings in syria/lebanon was most surely supported by the syrian regime, GG.

The 3 I heard in question were:

Pig as their Prophet Mohammed.
Dog humping man praying
and blast it I can't recall the third...

Thing is, why aren't any moderae Iman's calling for a cessation? This is doing HUDGE damage to any reputation the Muslims had left.

Fandros

they are, its just that the regimes currently benefit from the publicity and public outrage so they fuel the flames instead of trying to calm it down.

hell, as far as i know the very large majority of the protestors havent even seen the drawings.

edit: found the faked pictures

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7050/620/320/DOG.jpghttp://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7050/620/320/tegninger38.jpghttp://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7050/620/320/mo%20small.0.jpg

the 12 published pictures can be found here http://www.humaneventsonline.com/sarticle.php?id=12146

I was just about to say I could post them as someone sent them to me this week. My god yes that's worth the stink they are casuing no one has done worse to any other religion before ..... EVER.

Wow, horrible pictures. My eyes will never be the same.

It's funny but 2 people have said today...."Can you believe that the powder keg of the Middle East is uniting over cartoons?" "Can you believe that a major war could erupt over cartoons?"

Well, I think that all would work out alright if everyone could follow just one simple way of life: "What would Alfred E. Neuman do?"