NO

that is all

PWN

NO

that is all

PWN

NO

that is all

PWN

60 warriors, 1 cleric.

Short answer, no!

why in every Gods name would you want to clear VT over and over, after gettin in all four elemental planes?
you wind up replacing most the crap you get from VT anyway with elemental armor and other junk.Aten drops being the only real good stuff,at least til your in time,then its all pretty much junk.
just a waste of time,when you should be focusing on the elemental minis.cause there not gonna be easy kills the first few times.and the competition for em can be fierce,especially the fire minis.

but hey,who am i to judge.your guild might just be full of sadists that love to clear VT over and over and over, oh dear god another dozen of 4 arms in camp, over and over again.:P


bah,why did i even bother typin all this,since you sir, are an utter moron.

IVM hasnt cleared VT.
So your point is ?

/shrug, the time zone gods have not been good to us lately.

Fact is most of the second floor is either engaged or cleared by the time most of us get home from work (YES, most of us do have jobs,kids, and families). We have tried to move on second floor when it is up during our play hours but Fd has beat us to the mob each time. Kudos to them.

As to you Mr. Anon poster. Grats on your imaginary 10 inch e-penis i guess.

anon poster yajj is yajj a monk that is a well a monk..... unless you are talking about another post

No. I meant Yajj.

I had never met this person before, never heard of this person before, and I have never heard of anyone speak of this person before. I just assumed since he didnt have a signature that outlined who he was and what guild he was with, that he was anon.

Will VA ever get a VT clear?If it's engaged or cleared before we get home from work and logon in force, no. What's your point? FD has more people (a) on EST/CST time, (b) school-aged, or (c) willing to take off work to clear VT before VA gets home?

Dashmoo runs a fine guild. Plenty of solid people. Unfortunately, it's reputation is soiled by a handful of idiot members, a few sociopathic officers, and a couple of message board trolling clowns.

Grats FD on winning... ...your imaginary competition. Blue ribbons all around!

http://www.ci.houston.tx.us/departme/person/psrw/graphics/blue-ribbon.gif

palimax can i get a gold ribbon instead it will match my green non-vt armor and well being a gnome i should get special treatment!

I think you hurt his feelings.

I guess I should post a nice frothy mug filled with STFU or something, just because I like to post pictures, but you really aren't worth the effort.

One would think you would be used to sloppy seconds by now, in game and out.

One would think you would be used to sloppy seconds by now, in game and out.What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Do you know anything about what I do out of game? You want to bitch about who trained who or who needs to "spawn more overlords," then feel free. You wanna talk about things out-of-game with me, you'd better think twice.

This is some useless dick-measuring thread started by someone who thinks you guys fielding more east-coast school-aged kids than us is worthy of saying "pwn."

What's more pathetic? Us not trying to be #1 and being a middle-tier guild, or you guys trying to be #1 and being a middle-tier guild?

You wanna talk about things out-of-game with me, you'd better think twice.

What are you going to do? Argue with me over the internet?

So this is just a few FD doing a neiner neiner neiner to VA for NOT accomplishing some facet of EQ?

Pathetic.

you wind up replacing most the crap you get from VT anyway with elemental armor and other junk

You have no idea what you're talking about. 20+ upgrades from clearing VT a night vs a handfull in the Elementals? When it comes to total resists on items, VT is better than Elemental by 2 fold.

And to this piece of dribble:

This is some useless dick-measuring thread started by someone who thinks you guys fielding more east-coast school-aged kids than us is worthy of saying "pwn."

Actually, the vast majority of us are 25 to 35.

the best is the IVM response. I know this too be true. I linked my new shoulders to Sangai."where's that from?" Just goes to prove VT not necessary for E plane advancement.
The gaer is nice,but Tactics> all.

lol.i think its you that has no clue what your talkin about.cause obviously you havnt even started farming elemental minis for armor,to see how much actually drops every 3 days, in each of the four elemental planes.
i can guarantee the day you start killin your first mini and get your first elemental armor drops,you'll change your tune real fast.VT becomes obsolete from that moment on.



hell, you don't even need VT to get to the elementals.sure it might help ya get there faster with less wipes.but if you got alot of skilled players you can skip VT entirely.

Dart -- I stand by my statement. You want to insult my "character" in everquest, please. Feel free. You wanna make wise-ass cracks about how cool your guild and how lame my guild is? Knock yourself out. Take your best shot. That's what this board if for.

If you want to make cracks at me in the real word, at my real "character," expect me to take it seriously. My job. My friends. My family. My girlfriend. My daughter. None of those things -- the things that make up my life -- are "sloppy seconds," and internet or no, I won't let anyone infer, even if just for a moment, that they are.

What am I gonna do about it? Not much I guess. Karma's a bitch though.

also ill add,unlike your guild. VA has killed all the Gods up to the RZ event alone, without any candyland VT items.

seeing how far VA has gotten without VT gear,you must really be scared to think what they could do if they were all VT geared up. ;)

Allamar / Veltore. A few simple facts for you....

1) IVM and EW started PoP at same time...

2) EW is now more or less 6 months ahead of IVM....

3) EW farmed the hell out of VT...

4) IVM hardly entered VT....


The facts point out the truth. VT is not necessary, BUT 24 upgrades in a scant 4.5 hours with superior resists and effects over non elemental gear makes for faster guild progression than any other activity when VT is up. Disagree / agree as you like, but the facts cannot be denied.

*Disclaimer: This post is in NO WAY intended to slight IVM or their efforts

but if you got alot of skilled players you can skip VT entirely.

I think the only guild to ever wipe to Aten Ha Ra needs to stay there a few more years.

bos, i consider you're a friend and all, but this is definately an unneeded, and immature post. Yajj, I thought you were better than this immature dribble. As far as the sloppy seconds post, coming from someone in what is in effect the 7th guild on aro to get to VT(correct me if i'm wrong: EW, IvM, LS, CB, XA, RIP, then you), is laughable at best. I know you guys don't like VA, or Palimax, but don't make yourselves look like an idiot to voice that opinion.

i'm bored I have nothing better to do..

IvM beat Quarm w/o VT gear that is true but if you are going to use something like that as a basis for your argument then someone can argue back why not farm vt until every one of your alts has aten gear like ew did..

I personally like VA much more than FD just because of the people I've met which are mostly in VA and loving it, ex-FD and hating it or current FD and whining about it..

I'm just a regular joe with a regular job, I'm your average white suburbanite slob.

xa never made it to vt

Bos likes football, and porno and books about war.

Siludorf, just one thing I see that might be a little bit off in your post. Even if IvM beat Quarm without VT gear, werent they bound to have had elemental/time gear at least so why would they have VT gear on in the first place if elemental/time > VT?

Just asking a question though, my take on it was that guilds would jump on elemental gear even if they had spent time farming in VT, since it was better in everything except resists?

EW doesn't equip alts so I don't see how they would have aten gear, or any kind of VT gear anyway.

The whole thread is pretty stupid tho and I agree with palimax.

I've got an average house! with a nice hardwood floor!

His wife and his job, his kids and his car. His feet on his table, and a Cuban Cigar

But sometimes that just ain't enough, to keep a monk like me intrested!

oh no, no way, uh huh

No I gotta go out and have fun at someone elses expense!

yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah

*ahhh*He drives really slow in the ultra fast lane, while people behind him are going insane!*aaaaah*

Life's gonna suck when you grow up, when you grow up, life's gonna suck when you grow up, it sucks pretty bad right now!

Oh fuck, wrong song. 8(

I'm an asshole!

He's an asshole! What an asshole!

(He's the world biggest asshole)

A S S H O L E

EVERYBODY!

He uses public toilets, And he pisses on the seats

He walks around in the summer time, Sayin' "How about this heat?"

I'm an asshole
(he's an asshole, what an asshole)
I'm an asshole
(he's a big fucking asshole)

Sometimes he parks in handicaped spaces!
While handicaped People, make handicaped faces!

I'm an asshole
(he's an asshole, what an asshole)
I'm an asshole
(he's a big fucking asshole)

Maybe Bos shouldnt be singing this song,
Ranting and raving and carring on,
Maybe they're right when they tell him he's wrong.



NAAAHHHHH

I'm an asshole
(he's an asshole, what an asshole)
I'm an asshole
(he's the worlds biggest asshole)

You know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna get myself a 1967 Cadaliac Eldarado Convertable,
Hot Pink!
With whale skin hub caps,
An all leather cow interior,
And big brown baby seal eyes for headlights.
YEAH!
And I'm gonna drive around in that baby,
At 115 miles per hour,
Getting one mile per gallon,
Sucking down quarter pounder cheeseburgers from McDonalds in the old-fasioned non-biodegradable styrafoam containers.
And when I'm done sucking down those grease ball burgers,
I'm gonna wipe my mouth in the American flag,
And then I'm gonna toss the styrafoam containers right out the side,
And there ain't a God damn thing anybody can do about it,
You know why?
'Cause we got the bombs, that's why.
Two words, Nuclear Fucking Weapons OK.
Russia, Germany, Romania,
They can have all the democracy they want.
They can have a big democracy cake,
Walk right through the middle of Tienemen Square,
And it won't make a lick of difference,
Because we got the bombs OK!
John Wayne's not dead,
He's frozen.
And as soon as we find a cure for cancer, we're gonna thaw out the duke.
And he's gonna be pretty pissed off,
You know why?
Have you ever taken a cold shower?
Well multiply that by 15 million times,
That's how pissed off the duke's gonna be.
I'm gonna get the duke,
And John Desimeties,
And Lee Marvinhaugh
And Sam Beckinforth,
And a case of whiskey,
And drive down to Texas,
And,

why not farm vt until every one of your alts has aten gear like ew did..

shut the fuck up if you have no idea what you are talking about.:hat

Hey, Hey, You know you really are an asshole!

I'm an asshole
(he's an asshole, what an asshole)
I'm an asshole
(he's the worlds biggest asshole)

A, SS, HO, LE
Everybody,

A, SS, HO, LE

I'm an asshole, and I'm Proud of it!

Lol whats funny is a selfproclaimed non uber causal raiding guild is doing the same stuff as fd and if it was not for key mobs poping before the majority of va gets out of work fd would be shareing vt even up.

Since when did playing Eq become a competion ?

Its nice to have a life outside of eq and still take on the high end game mobs huh va :)


Sig too large 450 X 150

Since when did playing Eq become a competion ?Well... ...day one. Some people play FOR the competition, some people keep playing DESPITE the competition. I, for one, am glad that there's nearly enough content for nearly all of the people playing to be doing something whenever they want to be.

As much as I enjoy healthy competition, there's just too many people (witness this thread) who get their jollies not from winning, but by proclaiming someone else the loser.

hahaha bos and talid, that duet was awesome.

I'm still trying to figure out why VA gets so much hate? From all my dealings with them they are a class act.

probably because there is a sub-set of the population who only feel good about themselves when they're trying to tear someone else down.

It's sad in a way. Sad because if people were comfortable with themselves they might enjoy what they accomplished rather than focusing on what they prevented someone else from enjoying.

The best thing you can do is shrug and be happy you aren't one of them.

nice song Bos and Talid, got another one somewhere? that one had me laughing.

its bad the way you guys talk about va he way you do. But funny how we helped your guildies out on a carp raid and got them flag for burtoxx. so as it is seen its not us thats a bad guild specially if your people come to us for help.)))


In peace we conqure all in war we conqure noone....

Isnt there some threads for every guilds FD gets in competition with? Thats pretty sad. Go whine some more to GMs, you might have all time flags.

Impresario Almadar Tegleftyln
Retired

its bad the way you guys talk about va he way you do. But funny how we helped your guildies out on a carp raid and got them flag for burtoxx. so as it is seen its not us thats a bad guild specially if your people come to us for help.)))

Yes you did, and I as well as FD thanks VA for that, as I would hope VA thanks FD for the backflagging we've recently done for them.

Unfortunately this thread appears to be started out of boredom.

As for Almadar, in the unfortunate incident created by RiP with the Emp, there were actually about 10 that got rifts from the GM that night as we had previously killed the Emp prior to the RiP leapfrogging incident with Emp. Perhaps if you didn't do that, the GM would not have seen fit to give the rifts to the few FD that needed them, lesson learned by you I hope.
On a side note, that would be similiar to the many leapfrogging incidents you pulled in VT with us. You know, we kill the mob, despawn the warders and you then run past us as we do loot.

Pielover, you love to make your snide remarks, unfortunately, you lack the guts to reveal yourself here, but I think in past posts I had pretty much pinned down who you are. When you were in FD you were perhaps the biggest whiner we have known in the guild. On another side note I do believe RiP wiped to AHR, with out it being a server down that caused it. Unfortunately it's not our practice in FD to have our Rogue officers follow other guilds around to see how they do things, or take screenshots of the other guilds, as it seems to be the norm for the 2 guilds we are most in competition with. We do encounters with our own strats, and yes, we wipe at times, wiping is learning.

As far as doing all the PoP flag mobs up to RZTW, you can be assured, FD did everyone of them before we ever cleared VT, I believe all but Bertoxx and RZTW had been done by us before we even killed Emp, and we were most certainly not geared as we are now, in fact, our average geared toon was probably below what VA's present gear is as they do these PoP encounters.

The difference between us and VA is probably this, we felt it was the best route to gear us up with as many VT clearings as possible before we went in to the Elemental planes, VA feels that just a few VT clearings will suffice. We do EQ by expansion, and we do it at our own pace.

We never wiped to AHR

I'm still trying to figure out why VA gets so much hate?


Because they have the misfortune of having to deal with FD in game. So do we, as evidenced by people flaming us over imaginary events a good four months after we stopped bothering with VT completely.

Not that I'm surprised, since Yajj obviously still harbors a lot of pent up frustration from back when FD had to wipe to yard trash because we were killing all the nameds. They didn't get a chance to wipe to AHR until after we'd stopped going.

Well, there was that time I personally dragged and rezzed them at Kaas Ans whatever Dyek after Dashmoo had asked me to let them have it. We were thanked for this by FD leapfrogging us at DXXT EVERY SINGLE WEEK for over a month. Fortunately FD never survived the second floor clear and thus couldn't try to leapfrog us after Vi Xa Aten Ha Ra. It made for some interesting times though, including FD flat out attempting to killsteal Thall Va Kelun during one of our last clears. Pity no chat server GMs were around to violate SoE policy on that one and almost get fired for it, I'm sure you would have liked some more duped loot for your "effort."

You know, we kill the mob, despawn the warders and you then run past us as we do loot.

I think your victim complex has this completely backwards. You guys never had much loot to do because you never killed much of anything while we were in the zone. Which makes this whole thread pretty damn hilarious.

And no, we never wiped to Aten Ha Ra. Notably, neither did Landslide that time you tried to leapfrog them after that damn near heroic 10 hour clear they did with 25-some odd people. You know, the one where Tixha almost made you leave the zone.


Pielover, you love to make your snide remarks, unfortunately, you lack the guts to reveal yourself here, but I think in past posts I had pretty much pinned down who you are.

If you're refering to Fhylden, I feel the need to defend him since he's currently out of the country on business, and aside from that hasn't read this boardd in months AFAIK. Other than somehow believing him a "fat pig," I find it laughable your witchhunt found someone so completely disgusted with guild politics he mostly left the game as your scapegoat du jour.

Pretty sad when your guild spokeswhore has to pick on ex-members that made a choice to not even fight back.

It's popcorn time!! http://fjutt.adm.gu.se/~fjutt/eq/phpBB2/images/smiles/popcornsmiley.gif

FD flat out attempting to killsteal Thall Va Kelun during one of our last clears

Funny, our monk pulls it, remember him, he's your friend. You ummm memblurred it.

neither did Landslide that time you tried to leapfrog them after that damn near heroic 10 hour clear they did with 25-some odd people

I believe Landslide wiped and we killed the AHR blobs. But thanks Malse for proving my point about being followed around by another guilds Rogue officers. Thats right I remember now, there was Malse setting off the traps to delay us.

I guess you are once again misinformed by your own psychotic delusions, you see, we kill 1st floor blob, you coth up and kill DXXT....hmmm...I guess thats not leapfrogging.

Malse, you are by far the biggest shit purveyor I have ever seen in my life. Why dont you go make more deals you can break.

The difference between us and VA is probably this, we felt it was the best route to gear us up with as many VT clearings as possible before we went in to the Elemental planes, VA feels that just a few VT clearings will suffice. We do EQ by expansion, and we do it at our own pace.Chenoa has no clue how "VA feels."

Our decision to go to VT was based on us feeling it provided us with the gear necessary for our guild to best progress in the game. Our decision to leave VT behind will be based strictly on VT ceasing to be a valuable use of limited time - not on a preset feeling that "just a few clearings will suffice."

Oh...I'm sorry Palimax, next time I'll discount what your guild members tell me. My bad.

wow im having XA flash backs

Oh...I'm sorry Palimax, next time I'll discount what your guild members tell me. My bad. Please provide the multiple guild members (plural) who informed you that we were only interested in "a few" clearings before being completely finished with VT, or stop pretending you're tapped into some secret VA information pipeline.

PS. Mods, can you turn off Chenoa's signature, please? I'm browsing via VNC-over-SSH today and it violates the hight and hight+text guidelines.

Sorry Palimax, i'm not tapped into any secret VA pipeline. conversations do happen though. Maybe you should try one sometime.
I'll turn off my sig for you, wouldn't want your anus to get any tighter than it already is.

Oh, Palimax isn't the first one to notice that you are incapable of following simple rules, Chenoa.

He was just the first to point it out in this thread.

The fact that you use it even on one-line posts kinda makes it stick out.

Yup definitely having XA flash backs now /em sits back and grabs the popcorn

Please provide names of VA members (multiple) who said we intend to be completely finished with VT after "a few" clearings or retract your statement. Without them, your statement is useless drivel.

I'm browsing over a severely bandwidth limited connection today, and your signature requires an extra screen redraw to get past it. If it didn't violate the board rules, I'd deal with it and move on. I asked the moderators, politely, to disable your signature -- on posts you can no longer edit -- at a time where Baltyn was reading and posting. Clearly good reason for you to get all bent out of shape and comment on my level of pucker, no?

Buadyen <------ Guild Officer of VA and Rogue That follows FD around in zones.
Veteran
(3/9/04 17:34)
Reply

Oh, I can't wait to see how this turns out... ...all yours Buadyen.

I can play this game too. VA and FD members send me tells all the time. Ironically both sets of people are complaining about FD.

By the way, Buadyen is a ranger.


Funny, our monk pulls it, remember him, he's your friend. You ummm memblurred it.

I still talk to the guy from time to time. And yes, we memblurred it, at approximately 10%. That would be about 15 minutes after we engaged, and 10 minutes after you guys ran over and tried to Killsteal it.

I'll leave why as an exercise to the reader since most of them are smarter than Chenoa.



I believe Landslide wiped and we killed the AHR blobs.

I was with Landslide from about 8 EST onwards, mostly because I was sort of touched by 25 people trying to get to AHR before you fucked with them. They didn't wipe to AHR, they killed her trivially and Valelar and I had a nice chat about VT pulling tactics on the way up.


you coth up and kill DXXT....hmmm...I guess thats not leapfrogging.

You attempt to engage and nuke down a mob that's already at 90% from 3-5 minutes of fighting, already cornered, with our tank (not your monk) on rampage because he had first aggro -- I guess that's not trying to killsteal. Nor is waiting for us to kill DXXT, immediately running past us and trying to clear to TVK (and often failing) leapfrogging.



Why dont you go make more deals you can break.


Why, are you making up more to lie to your guild about so I can publically humiliate you again?

Oh, I can't wait to see how this turns out... ...all yours Buadyen.

Probably with more whining by both of you.

Well, for starters, Buadyen is a *ranger*... (Thanks for fetching for us the other night btw :) )

Regards,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Autonomous Collective

Probably with more whining by both of you.Does this mean you aren't going to back up your statements with some facts?

Excuse me for being fairly new to this server... but where does this plan on taking anyone?

I've come to this server about 3 weeks ago becuase I am no longer raiding the high end game, plus I have a friend who is in VA. I don't know what kind of problems people are having but so far everyone in VA has been very nice and very fair to anyone, in our out of the guild.

I won't flame FD either because I have talked to very few members of that guild so far.... the ones I have talked to have been VERY honorable and mature (Ogan especially, he's an officer and I tip my sword to him). There has been one though who was immature and just seems like a waste of pixels (I don't really need to name names, he's put himself MORE than evident on this thread)

However I will talk about my entire thought on the VT clearing issues though. I understand FD is flagged for the elemental planes.

You have no idea what you're talking about. 20+ upgrades from clearing VT a night vs a handfull in the Elementals? When it comes to total resists on items, VT is better than Elemental by 2 fold.

How many people are in the elemental planes? How much of the Mini bosses in the planes and the gods are contested? I only wonder because I remember back in the days if spawns were set right we could easily have had a LOT of upgrades in a night from Fire alone... let alone all 4 planes... but the gear there is of course by far better than VT yes, my boggle with it all is that I dont' understand why FD will continue to farm VT when they have the elemental planes at their disposal.

Anyway beyond that.... it's obvious that VA and FD are approximately the same level (minus the what I've heard was one RZ kill of course).

seeing how far VA has gotten without VT gear,you must really be scared to think what they could do if they were all VT geared up.

I do start to wonder how much of this is actually true, although I've never seen FD raid yet and see how they do things. Only how they act when there is another guild waiting for a spawn at the same time they are (VT waiting for Blob1 to spawn)

... and as far as the VT Blob camping... well it's all just time zone.... a matter of time before the spawn happens to where it can be intercepted and see what VA can actually do on the 2nd floor since they have been blocked everytime. I myself believe that they could do it and would LOVE to see.

But this is all my personal opinion... I dont' see why this post was orginally started and I feel bad for even contributing to it... but I just don't understand both 1. FD's constant farming of VT instead of concentrating on more RZ kills and Elemental planes flagging and 2. the fact that some of their members seem to have an itch for giving their guild a bad rep by posting stuff that's totally trivial and meaningless (YES I MEAN THE ASSHOLE SONG!), I think it's bad that a few apples in the bunch act that way when there are others that I have talked to who seem to be very level headed and honorable about things.

/duck flames

-Arashikage Katakana
Ranger of Karana
Server newbie

was with Landslide from about 8 EST onwards, mostly because I was sort of touched by 25 people trying to get to AHR before you fucked with them.


HAHA...Malse tries the "I'm a good guy" approach. Try it with someone else, you never do a thing unless it's to your own personal advantage, or a way for you to vent that psychotic pent up anger you have for Dashmoo. You know that, I know that. You're quite transparent.

Malse, once again you try and try to convince me that the bullshit you spew is truth. Let's stop all the crap and just admit that lying and cheating is so much a part of your style that you confuse it with reality.

Why, are you making up more to lie to your guild about so I can publically humiliate you again?


Actually that Monk you still talk to still swears to this day he had first aggro, he pulled it with an orb. I still talk to him also, quite a bit as a matter of fact.

Believe me, bullshitting, deal breaking ignorant fools as yourself will never publicly humiliate me. You do fine here humiliating yourself, don't forget Malse, it's your reputation for breaking the deals that makes you famous.

Buadyen <------ Guild Officer of VA and Rogue That follows FD around in zones.
Veteran
(3/9/04 17:34)
Reply

Well, one out of three isn't bad, I guess, Chenoa.

Yes, I am an officer of VA.
No, I am not a rogue, I am a ranger.
No, I do not follow FD around in zones. I can't, since I'm a ranger. Trying to follow guilds around would be fatal to me and the guild I'm following.

Now, yes, I did hijack your CoTH link that one time with Bind Sight and I got to watch you guys wipe on both DXXT and AHR.

I guess using Bind Sight one time constitutes "following FD around in zones".

I guess zoning in and checking tracking in a zone to see what's up as part of normal spawn monitoring also constitutes "following FD around".

Oh no! Buadyen zoned into the Plane of Tranquility while Final Destiny members are there. He must be following FD around!

Does this mean you aren't going to back up your statements with some facts?


Yeah, search these boards, I'm certain you'll see screen shots the "Ranger" took of us on the top floor of VT. You know how rangers get that sneak/hide thing that allows them to follow a guild around and get no aggro.

Oh, god, that post is tasty... ...stop my sides hurt from laughing.

You know how rangers get that sneak/hide thing that allows them to follow a guild around and get no aggro

As it's not shroud of stealth.... our sneak sucks.... hide is of no use to us either, just a camouflage that drops when you walk! A Ranger who tries to follow a guild using our sneak/hide is taking one too many tokes off of the glass pipe or drinking the bong water.

-Arashikage Katakana
Ranger of Karana

Yes, Chenoa, it's called Bind Sight (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=500&source=Live).

Oh, god, please, stop, you're killing me...

As it's not shroud of stealth.... our sneak sucks.... hide is of no use to us either, just a camouflage that drops when you walk! A Ranger who tries to follow a guild using our sneak/hide is taking one too many tokes off of the glass pipe or drinking the bong water.

It was sarcastic. The ranger in question likes to post screen shots after he uses bind sight on members of other guilds.

Well Buadyen my answer to your 133t screen shots is....Cursed!

Believe it or not, Malse spends quite a bit of time doing things that aren't directly advantageous to him or his guild. Despite the fact that Faervas and I are firmly entrenched non-uberguilders, he has come not only to hang out with us on numerous occasions, but has assisted us with flagging, with spells, and has pulled, CCed, or otherwise helped out our little guild with various adventures for no good reason I can think of other than the fun and challenge of it. I certainly don't put it past him to 'hang out' with a small Landslide group for a potentially challenging evening...

Regards,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Autonomous Collective

It was sarcastic. The ranger in question likes to post screen shots after he uses bind sight on members of other guilds.

Care Factor???

What does it matter if someone takes a screenshot of your guild?

-Arashikage Katakana
Ranger of Karana

Would it be out of the question for VA and FD to just share the spawn in VT? FD gets full spawn then the next spawn is the VA? Or is that not possible with how many guilds have access to it anymore? If its possible to work it out like that it sure gives people something else to do rather than camp a spawn.


Just curious.. im neutral on all this.


Ibudin

and if it were screenshots of your guild wiping.... oh freakin well.... GUILDS WIPE, that's what they do when they come against a mob they can't handle or when someone screws up... IT HAPPENS

-Arashikage Katakana
Ranger of Karana

Nydia, no, no..

Malse is evil because Chenoa said so.
Buadyen is a rogue because Chenoa said so.
Multiple VA members only want "a few" clearings because Chenoa said so.

Get with the program, Nydia -- your so called "facts" are useless compared to the might of Chenoa's say-so.

That was asked once to share VT spawns.... I happened to be present when FD very "sarcastically" turned it down

-Arashikage Katakana
Ranger of Karana

I was about to post the same thing Nydia. Malse has hung out with me a few times when he was just wandering around the zone and I invited him for shits and giggles to the group.

Kaziganthi
Lost Fires

And yes, we memblurred it, at approximately 10%. That would be about 15 minutes after we engaged, and 10 minutes after you guys ran over and tried to Killsteal it.

I was at this encounter. Actually, on this mob we really did have first aggro. I will admitt though, it was difficult for you to tell because we tried to pull it through you. The memblur thing is something we would never have tried though honestly.

I have friends in VA as I have friends in RiP. Both guilds are full of good people with a few bad apples, like any guild. FD is no different.

When it comes to VT, the main reason we're so competitive is because when we leave it we don't ever want to go back, like a few guilds that are ahead of us may soon do.

I'd like to point out, before this gets derailed, that this isn't about establishing a VT rotation. While I think a VT rotation would be worthy of discussion, with FD currently getting all of the kills, they don't have much reason to come to the table; and I can't blame them. [In what little conversation I had on the topic, their main objection, interestingly enough, was that our later play-hours would mean their rotation times would be "too late" and they'd have to risk losing spawns to A.Ro Japan and TL if we didn't clear early enough in the evening. A reasonable objection, but I think it demonstrates our reason for not having cleared VT - they beat us to the spawns, primarily by virtue of geography and player demographic.]

But, as I was saying, this post isn't about that. As much as we'd like to see those mobs dead, we didn't start this dick-measuring thread. This thread got started by someone who wanted to measure his ePenis by trying to make ours look smaller. So, again, hats off to him. You sir, are indeed teh pwn!

and if it were screenshots of your guild wiping.... oh freakin well.... GUILDS WIPE, that's what they do when they come against a mob they can't handle or when someone screws up... IT HAPPENS

I don't care if we get stalked, but posting them on the boards is kinda rude.

Care Factor???

Dunno, he seems to care an awful lot to have taken the time to do what he did.


That was asked once to share VT spawns.... I happened to be present when FD very "sarcastically" turned it down

Umm...we said no.

Mok -- I believe the screenshots were posted in response to Chenoa denying the events happened, as rebuttal material. Your minister of misinformation at work...

Unlike this thread, of course, which was just pretty much a blindside dicking...

[Correct me if I'm mistaken, I didn't pay much attention to the last thread.]

The only reason people start these threads is for entertainment. I know if I bait Palimax or VA, it will only be a matter of minutes before it's a full blown orgy of argueing and cock measuring.

Do I like the feeling of "Beating another guild"?

Of course I do, it's the competitive nature in all of us that drives us to want to win and be the best.

While I probably was a little out of line with my original bait(I do feel kinda bad for it, seeing as he got so pissed. Please accept my appologies), I knew it would provoke an immediate response.

Do I hate any of the guilds on this server? Nah

Do I have some beef with some members? Not really, but they sure are fun to argue with over the internet.

and plz stop to be knocking the asshole song. Dennis Leary > all kkthx.

Dart/Bos - apology accepted.

I'm going to lunch. Thai today.

I believe I had said they were caused by a server reset. No, theres no misinformation Palimax. The misinformation was unfortunately done by you guys omitting certain facts.

Paint it however you want it, facts are facts and posting something with the expressed intent of trying to say that FD can't handle VT was plain wrong. I don't see any FD officers coming to this board and doing anything remotely close to what your officer has done here.

As I said in that post and others have said, guilds wipe, it's part of the game. Has VA ever wiped? Do other guilds officers come to the boards and post screen shots of it?

Re-read the posts that the screenshots were posted on, look at the logs posted, look at whos guild members went so far as to ninja loot rifts, shards, training coth with zone mobs. Wasn't FD was it.

With all our competition with RiP, no FD member ninja looted one shard or rift, at no time did we KS, leapfrog, or break a deal. Sure the deals were made in text on a game, and the person who broke them has no RL honor to lose. Its a game, one that has competition for whatever the reason may be.

Everybody gets their turn in a zone, you'll get yours as we got ours.

Wow. . it took a bit more than 24 hours for a STUIPD thread i started when i was bored to blow up into complete chaos.
The only reason people start these threads is for entertainment. I know if I bait Palimax or VA, it will only be a matter of minutes before it's a full blown orgy of argueing and cock measuring.
THANK YOU BOSILLO FOR SEEING THIS AS ALL IT IS

Thus, illustrating a few simple rules to this NAG board:

1)People post mostly stupid, false, unlegible banter on this board, IE: my thread.

2) people who read it take it to heart and freak out yelling FU got to hell back or telling me i have a big e-penis. You think I did it to feel better about myself or my guild? Riight. . I really need to get a life if i pride myself on the accomplishemnts of some computer game i play in my free time.

3) Random member(s) of server uberguild chime in with how stupid this thread is because theses lesser guilds are still arguing about content that's 3 expansions old. . . random memeber(s) of server noobieguild respond in similar manners as tehy have no clue how interguild competition works on this and every server that's not rotation-based.

4) Malse spews some falsity that increases the size of the imaginary halo he has over his head.

5) People finally see the thread for what it is, and simultaneously realize that instead of worrying about trivial threads on a EZBoard, they could be playing the game and having fun . .thread goes poof!

I don;t feel the need to apologize to VA . .hate me if you want .. anyone who actually knows who I am already has an opinion about me. If you haven;t met me in the 4 years I've been playing .. then who the fuck cares really? I rarely use LFG tool, and my guild supplies just about any resource i need in game . .so I can live with you hating me. . . or . . meet me in game and find that I'm actually quite a nice guy and base your opinion on something otehr than a stupid NAG board thread. Interguild competition DOES NOW and WILL ALWAYS exist on a non-rotation server. Deal with it and move on.

To set some things straight here:

Bosillo and Palimax are meeting at the tennis courts after school today to fight and finally settle this.

CRIPPLE FIIIIGGGHHHTTT!!!!!!!!!!

Chenoa and Malse will be meeting afterwards in the girls locker room for what will soon to be known as the biggest catfight in the history of EQ.

GIRL FIGHT TONIGHT!!!

Thanks for the entertainment folks. . =)

palimax said:

Dashmoo runs a fine guild. Plenty of solid people. Unfortunately, it's reputation is soiled by a handful of idiot members, a few sociopathic officers, and a couple of message board trolling clowns.

as opposed to a guild who's reputation is soiled by a sociopathic meglomaniac guildleader, has a few solid people, a bunch of rubber-stamp-yes men mentatily officers, and a couple of message board trolling clowns ?

Arch Lich Thana

Just my 2 cp worth. I think in every game there is competition. Its fun to win. Are we (as in FD) winning? I dont think so. I think we are middle of the pack along with VA, Prism, and whoever else is out there. I do believe we are having fun and I must admit that the FD leadership does things their way. They really dont want help or strats from other people which is nice.

I really dont have a problem with anyone on this server. Hell I only have 2 people on ignore and one of them is from my own guild. I think Yajj started this thread for some good natured ribbing. Seems it has gone a little farther then that but if you really sit back and look this thread. You have to admit it is pretty funny and gives you something to read while you cant play EQ.

Rigin

This is great =) FD is doing the same thing to VA, what RIP did to FD =) But this time they are the aggressors lol. YET VA isn't the one whining lol. Will the endless circle ever stop? I doubt it =)

Hey Chenoa be nice =) /hug

Dashmoo runs a fine guild. Plenty of solid people. Unfortunately, it's reputation is soiled by a handful of idiot members, a few sociopathic officers, and a couple of message board trolling clowns.

Thana fits two of those categories! Unless FD made the mistake of promoting them to an officer, in which case Thana would fit all three of those categories!

Tell me, what guild wouldn't want a Top 10 Ubernecro as an officer?

Forgot to Add that RIP was whining the same thing about SOT =) So the root of all evil is SOT!!! Will Cockblocking be stopped? Only time will tell =)

VT was just so poorly designed. It makes me wonder if SOE designed it this way on purpose to be a pain in the ass to the guilds competing for it.

I'd be happy to demonstrate how Necromancer > Ranger for you baudyen...

/auction free serving of humble pie.

Arch Lich Thana

Thana fits two of those categories! Unless FD made the mistake of promoting them to an officer, in which case Thana would fit all three of those categories!

This is funny because I remember when I was in FD, FD and VA were racing each other on AOW. And Thana (who was still in VA) was the one /petitioning FD cause we were gonna pull Statue =) How has time changed.

He ain't a Ranj0r! He a Rogue!

Hating on the asshole song is definately uncool.

OH NOES!!!11!! TEH TOP TEN NECRO WANTS TO CHALLENGE ME!!11!!

*Buadyen quakes in his boots*

I would never accept that challenge. Why? Because I don't have to accept it to know the outcome. I haven't done any sort of real PVP in at least a year, probably more, so I'd already be at a significant disadvantage.

The duel would most likely go like this:
1. /pet attack Buadyen
2. Click AHR bracer
3. Cast Touch of Mujaki x 2 (maybe 3)
4. Lifeburn, or Touch of Mujaki 4 or so more times.

I doubt I could deal 7k+ worth of damage to Thana before dying anyway. (That's the 3.5k HP Thana has plus the 4.5k HP she would be lifetapping from me, not to mention the fact that she would probably have druid, cleric, shaman and beastlord buffs)

I supposed I could kite her around with my bow, and maybe an hour or two later she might finally die, that's even if my massivly PVP-nerfed archery can outpace her regen rate.

I guess if Top 10 Necro Thana's ego is so fragile that she needs to beat up on a less than Top 10 ranger to satisfy it, I can let her beat me up in the arena as a public service.

So I just went to EQRankings.com and submitted my Magelo.

Guess what? I'm a Top 10 Ranger, just like Thana's a Top 10 Necro!

..... what's that you say? I was only in the Top 10 because it was sorted by name?

Doh!

:(

The only thing worse than a ass hole, Is a ass hole that can kick your ass.
All that power put in a Mana battery.
Ye shall be now dubbed "Thana The Energizer Bunny".

This is great =) FD is doing the same thing to VA, what RIP did to FD =) But this time they are the aggressors lol. YET VA isn't the one whining lol. Will the endless circle ever stop? I doubt it =)Mesloww gets it, I see. FD, not content that someone else hasn't dragged them into a prolonged message board bitching recent decides to gloat over their own killing in VT (and our lack of it) just to demonstrate to everyone how they like to judge their own acomplishments.

Nobody in VA is here bitching "oh n0s! FD beat us to our spawns!" It just gets old (real old) listening to Minister of Misinformation Chenoa and Top 10 Necro Thana repeat the same tired bullshit over and over and over on THREADS THEIR GUILD MADE.

My 1:00pm meeting got cancelled, so expect me to troll the boards a bit more today -- or at least as long as I can avoid doing my status report...

My 1:00pm meeting got cancelled, so expect me to troll the boards a bit more today -- or at least as long as I can avoid doing my status report...

You mean TPS reports.

To summarize, cockblocking happens in Everquest.

It's just normally, it's the cockblockEE that comes to the boards to bitch, not the cockblockER that comes to the boards to gloat.

Hey Chenoa be nice =) /hug

Hiya Meslow, how's my favorite former Shaman doing?

Hey Buad??

I got yer back, think I can still qualify? I certainly don't mind throwing a lil beat down to help stand for a friend and a fellow ranger.

Fandros

has a few solid people

Thana, do I qualify as a solid people?!

hoosiers are in by default Brad, of course you're solid !

Arch Lich Thana

Sweet!

I'm rock solid all the time.

/winks for the ladies.

You heard it here first, folks! Top 10 Necro Thana said all Hoosiers are in the "solid VA member" category by default.

/em joins the small but growing number of "solid VA people".

(I lived in Indiana most of my life ... until I graduated from Indiana University and accepted a job in another state...)

I guess I will have to be nice to you now, as I am also an IU alumnus.

don't know what year you graduated, but they remove Spaceport. I think that's a crime.

IU Arch Lich Thana

Starting to feel the love? No?

Well, I guess not.

Spaceport....?

Oh yeah, that arcade in the garish blue building at the corner of Indiana Ave and Kirkwood Ave, right outside the Sample Gates....

Yeah, they started tearing that place down my sophomore or junior year, I think. It was gone by the time I graduated in 1997. They replaced it with the Carmichael Center, which houses the IU Visitor's Information Center and the Indiana University Athletics Outfitters shop.

If I remember correctly, the closing of Spaceport was somewhat of a big deal for certain groups on campus.

Oh, and I'm still not gonna duel ya. :)

The only remote chance I'd have at winning would be to get up in your face and beat on you with my melee weapons, but between whatever damage shields you might have up, your pet, and your channeling focus AAs, the outcome would likely be the same.

Thanks for the offer Fandros, but I wouldn't ask you or anyone else to do that. If you want to duel Thana on your own, more power to ya. :) (That would be an interesting duel to watch, too)

Just duel him in the arena in Thurgadin Buadyen. Make him let you kill him once just to strip buffs, rez him in with your cleric bot, then go at it once he's at fm.

When I played a warrior I would only duel casters in thurgadin arena :p

I'll duel you. Bard powah!

Screw all you hoosiers, go to a real school and become a Boilermaker like my wife and I.

Nihou!

Y'know, I got friends in both Final Destiny and Vallis Aspectus. Some are good people, some are blatant jerks, and some are there only for my entertainment. I'm going to post a little different tack for this thread here, and address some people...

Yajj...How ya doin'? Haven't really talked to you in a couple years, since back when we were guilded together.

Thana...I was guilded with you. I had a frank discussion with you. I decided VERY early on that you were a asshole...I take that back, yer a whole ass. With pimples and a rash. You've taken the tactic lately of "I'll duel you! I'm gonna kick yer EQass!" Big friggin' deal. You've won a lot of duels, and yer still a insecure little bitch desperately seeking some form of accomplishment to give you validation. You have a awesomely bad reputation, which you have earned honestly...through underhanded work and being a prick to all you encounter. I don't care if you could wipe me out in a duel...I'll still have friends I can hang out with in and out of game, while you have to create alternate identities to do so. You're a done and tired subject, only as intersting as the insults thrown at you. Don't bother hunting me in game, I don't care to be even near you. I put you on ignore a long time ago. A few of your alts too, especially after you threw a lootwhoring fit over a piece of Plane of Disease castle-trash armor for a tertiary alt of yours and left the group in disgust. We all had a much better time with you gone.

Chenoa...entertaining. I await what happens next.

Buadyen...competant and a decent guy.

Palimax...I talked to him once. He basically told me "Go West." I did go West, it all worked out, and I thanked him. And he's got some DVD's I wouldn't mind having.

Valarian...friggin' fishmongering jackass. He should be locked up somewhere he can go quietly nuts. Or in his case, loudly nuts. Needs a good spanking. Small penis too.



With Tolerance For Stupidity, And What It Breeds...Even When It's Entertaining....

Valarian

valarian must have been in XA to dislike me so much and been here for:

http://www.jorsm.com/~jexmann/EQ000001.jpg

val, your opinion means exactly 2 squirts to me considering I don't even remember who you are, let alone such a meaningful conversation, or phats for my thana_alt_07.
so kindly, fuck off.

Arch Lich Thana

Actually Vaal was in Vision and is in VA, but he probably encountered one of your many training complaints, that of course you didn't do.

lol, I love that pic!!!

Shit, I'm a born and bred Hoosier myself. ;)

Grew up in Madison County outside a tiny lil town, Orestes.

Left in '85 for the USAF and haven't had much chance to return.

Had a full paid ride to IU aswell, chose me to wanna see the world under my own steam. /chuckle

Fandros

Nihou!

Yeah, the training incidents...I remember you getting 'accused' of that often back in Vision. And while I am often willing to give a 'fellow guildy' the benifit of the doubt, I was FAR more willing to believe Tremain ( a officer in Final Destiny, those you called "Fucking whining bitches" (I may have the quote wrong, but that was the gist of it.) than you.

Those two squirts you give...do you use visual aids? Lubricant? Farm animals? And I must say, two squirts is kinda puny.

And not remembering me? Good. If you were involved, I kept away. You're bad news.

Ahmina go to bed now. I'll let Palimax and others make you look bad for a while.


With Tolerance For The Opposition Not Going The Distance...

Valarian

Chenoa...entertaining. I await what happens next.

Smootchies.

HAHA Hoosiers SUCK... when ya lost knight You lost any chance ya had! GO Univerity of Northern Iowa Panther's !!!!!(Second NCAA birth since becoming division one team) in 1985

Dear Chenoa,

I have the feeling you are one to talk a lot of trash but never back it up. You try to pick fights and to jump into threads that make your balls tingle with excitement, just so you can take a shit on others to make yourself feel good.

You are part of a new era of Everquest player. You are a spoiled child that thinks that you should get everything that that you want, when you want it! That's why you pick fights with honorable guilds like Vallis Aspectus, you don't like to share ANYTHING and you don't like to cooperate with others at all. (Unless it is for your own personal gain).

I think everybody in this game is out for themselves at least a little bit, but you take that to an extreme by attempting to screw anything and everybody in your path. I was once your friend, but then you stabbed me in the back. I will never forgive you. You have a heart of solid ice.

It's assholes like you that have ruined Everquest for me on a long term basis. People like you take all the fun out of a game that I once loved so very much. I hope you choke on your silver spoon, you pretentious bitch.

Dear arisensun,

Well from your post, you most certainly don't know me or have you ever known me.

Nice try, didn't work.

So in the spirit of the good old nag board, I say to you:

STFU You candy-assed, cousin-fucking, latex-sniffing, ass-munching, boil-nibbling, wank-faced dipshit!

Dear arisensun,

Well from your post, you most certainly don't know me or have you ever known me.

Nice try, didn't work.

So in the spirit of the good old nag board, I say to you:

STFU You candy-assed, cousin-fucking, latex-sniffing, ass-munching, boil-nibbling, wank-faced dipshit!

Maybe because you bought Chenoa off ebay with your credit card?

Priceless!

I know quite a few people in FD and i have to say that most of those i do know are great people that i socialize with all the time. But then again im probably one of the "yes-men-mentality" officers and really just socialize because im afraid to tell them to fuck off because they are in FD... hmm!

However, whether or not VA ever gets a VT Full spawn remains to be seen, im sure it will happen, im also sure that we are not busting our asses over a game. I am also sure that since we don't stoop to underhanded tactics (similar to AETL'ing out of emperor room when you realize we arent going to wipe) we are more likely to concede the spawns since we know your just going to leapfrog us anyway before we get the numbers together (As stated, EST is not our strongest time slot), rather then be childish and contest the spawns at the cost of maturity.

We have time, we can simply wait, there are plenty of things to occupy our raid functions with while you are in your VT obsession. Hmmm... Is it a VT obsession? or is it a spite VA obsession? With people like Chenoa calling the shots i guess you never can tell.

-Heruu

Hey Thana you left out the rest of the mobs you trained on XA

Wow Heruu...why all the h8...


we are more likely to concede the spawns since we know your just going to leapfrog us anyway before we get the numbers together

So, what you are saying is, you don't have the numbers to raid the target? If we then raid the target it's leapfrogging?

Unfortunately I rarely if ever have called the shot's, I am flattered at the importance you have placed on my position, but I will most certainly call a raid to our primary raid target when it's up. I don't care if you have 6, 10 or 15 people in zone, the same as other guilds don't care if we have 10, 20 or 40 people in zone.

As I explained to your officer that night in VT, remember the one that you guys sat on the 1st floor Blob spot waiting for it to spawn, or was that your way of conceding a spawn? We are there to raid, first to aggro gets the mob. It's the way the game is played. If VA had been the one to get the aggro we would most certainly had left and gone on to other things, would you have done the same?

You seem to be placing quite a bit of your effort in coming across as the squeaky clean guild here, but you and I know that's far from the truth.

I think what most don't understand is, why don't you concentrate on SSRA, the 1st floor and tower Diabo's in VT? Surely they offer nice upgrades to your guild. We did that for umm...3 or 4 months while RiP was doing the path to AHR. I assure you, no one in FD gives a crap about cockblocking VA in VT and as was explained to your leadership a share would not really work out as VA's raid time is about a 4 hour later start over us and would most likely result in one of the other elemental guilds that realized it was not in their best interest to have skipped VT grabbing the next spawn, much as happened after that night which resulted in Ayro Japan getting the next spawn.

As far as TL'ing out of the Emp room that time /shrug...so we left...leaving when you are the ones who have engaged is underhanded? At least we had the decency to leave and let you raid, which is more than I can say about some.

who did what to a non-existant guild doesn't matter any more.

Batlyn lemming, all the things that I supposedly did to XA were beat to death a long time ago, and it was clearly established that XA didn't need me to wipe your old guild, you all did just fine by yourselves.

Since a number of people seem to be fond of Logic, I'm sure that any number of you will find the fallacy in Batlyn and a number of others implied or stated remarks about me and my reputation.

It is commonly held that Thana is a trainer. Hence Thana is a trainer.

Arch Lich Thana

Well yes that horse is a dead and buried horse.
But if you intend to poke fun at your "l33t training skillz" at least 1) get more mobs in your picture, you left out a few hounds and Wyverns and 2) at least spell my damn name right.

Oh and I can discount 1 or 2 snide remarks on "so and so trained me" "so and so is an ass." But when more than that say the same thing about the same person......makes people wonder. Btw I don't have to wonder I was there on that very interesting night.

Anyway enough of hijacking continue to flame

Wow Heruu...why all the h8...

I dont really hate anyone.

So, what you are saying is, you don't have the numbers to raid the target? If we then raid the target it's leapfrogging?

Ok yeah i did kinda lay that one down poorly.

If VA had been the one to get the aggro we would most certainly had left and gone on to other things, would you have done the same?

I cannot speak for anyone other then myself, but yes, If i am in charge of VA in that situation i would bow out. Actually i probably wouldnt have put my guys in the line being hit by that kind of frustration. If you were there, i probably would not have gone up there to begin with, aside from the all encompassing wisdom of SOE's play nice policy, its common courtesy, which i like to think i am a dedicated practitioner thereof.

Unfortunately I rarely if ever have called the shot's, I am flattered at the importance you have placed on my position, but I will most certainly call a raid to our primary raid target when it's up.

I have seen on occasion, again i will refer back to Ssraa, where you WERE in charge and even at a disadvantage you refused to negotiate in terms agreeable for more then just FD, i admire your urge to achieve more for your guild, i despise your urge to do it by trying to walk all over others.

As far as TL'ing out of the Emp room that time /shrug...so we left...leaving when you are the ones who have engaged is underhanded?

Not when you make it sound like you weren't trying to screw us by disorienting the CC crowd by AETL'ing out in a cry baby fit because you didn't get what you wanted. Therein lies the difference between our guilds. FD Comes and beats us to a spawn, we gracefully leave. VA Beats FD to a spawn (/gasp, does it happen? Really?) and we throw a fit, go rant on the ARo boards, and try to make it difficult for them to do what they came to do.

Its not that FD beats us to VT that is frustrating for VA. Its the fact that FD does it with so little regard for anything in their path. Sure you can get to the top by pushing your way up the stairs, but... why? I would much rather get to the top at a slower pace and earn the respect of the rest of the people that are still ON the stairs.

Again, there is no hate, i dont hate you, i merely don't appreciate your lack of tact. For some people obviously you are a saint, and thats great, but for others you seem to be the mark of the beast. I personally have dealt with you maybe 3 times, coming away from those experiences, i choose not to deal with you anymore because i have no illusions of what to expect.

Bah i couldnt edit the post... on more quote.

You seem to be placing quite a bit of your effort in coming across as the squeaky clean guild here, but you and I know that's far from the truth.

Our leadership works together not just to achieve things for the guild, but to make sure it runs with respect for others, that is an honest statement.

As far as for me. I could challange you or anyone else here to give an example of where i have not been "Squeaky clean" Meaning playing with respect for the fellow player/guild. I have had moments, but not many i think.

As far as TL'ing out of the Emp room that time /shrug...so we left...leaving when you are the ones who have engaged is underhanded? At least we had the decency to leave and let you raid, which is more than I can say about some.

On the other hand, it doesn't take an entire raid force to monitor situations like that.

Maybe I could teach your rogues, errr rangers, oh wait, no, rogues some things on monitoring spawns, since you guys seem quite inept at it. Why send an entire raid force through a portal when one person or spell is sufficient?

VT will possibly be the last "zone" your guilds will ever fight over from here on out. You may but heads over GODs in elementals but that doesnt last long. Some can try to keep RZ down but we all know that cant happen forever cause he respawns fast..same can be said with just about every other mob in POP. Then toss in instancing in POT,LDON, and GOD..the flames disappear!

I have seen on occasion, again i will refer back to Ssraa, where you WERE in charge and even at a disadvantage you refused to negotiate in terms agreeable for more then just FD

Ummmm...the time you are speaking of, you did not have enough people in zone to succesfully kill the Emp. I know this, I straight out asked one of your officers. So no, I wasn't going to negotiate away loot from a mob that you lacked the numbers and at that point had not even killed yet. I was decent enough to allow 15 VA to loot rifts from the emp kill, I believe also these were the first people that were VT keyed in your guild.

Lets look at the facts, the time you speak of when you dealt with me, you had not killed the Emp, I think but am not sure it was you who had said that splitting the loot was what you wanted.
It is/was against our guilds normal policy to key/flag other guilds that have not yet killed the mob on their own, at that time VA had NOT killed emp yet. I know VA's argument was it would only be a matter of time before they killed it so thats why FD should let them have half the loot. Thats kind of like saying, give me 1 million dollars, because it will be just a matter of time before I'm a millionare.

Let me give you an example, FoD asked me to backflag some people on MM, which I did. Because FoD HAS killed MM.

While we were doing RZTW, some people from FoD asked me if they could get flagged, I told them no, because FoD has NOT killed RZ.

Our leadership works together not just to achieve things for the guild, but to make sure it runs with respect for others, that is an honest statement.

Well I'm most certain the same goes for FD. You see Heruu, we never leapfrogged you, never sat on a spawn where you had the numbers to engage and we didn't, never KS'd you, never ninja looted from you, never trained you at a zone line, and never asked you to help us kill a mob that we had not done on our own, never threatened to petition you for not sharing a zone. Can you say the same?
Truthfully, we have never done anything with blocking VA in mind. We know full well the time zone difference it kind of negates any real competition between us.

We see a target, we move to it, if VA beats us with a raid force sufficient to succesfully engage and hopefully kill the target, we move on, just as we did in the emp room. But no, we are not going leave because there are 3 VA sitting in a zone saying, we were here first. Just as VA did not leave and went so far as to coth in and sit in the middle of the room even though we had a full raid force sitting at 1st floor blob in VT. I wonder, where was the "respect" and not pushing people off the "stairs" that you speak of that night?

Chenoa, I know from experience when FD and VA end up in the same zone that chances is it going to end up negative. You can easily see that from all the board posting here. FD has dealt with many more guilds that have treated them negatively than VA in the past.

But to be fair not all encounters between FD and VA have been bad. And in those few times it is a surprise when it does happen … Off the top of my head these are some I remember.

(1) SSRA Emperor – After fighting over the Emperor, we had a limited raid sharing where 20 VA members join FD raid. I was one of the 20 that got rift that night and complete my VT key because of it … Thanks, FD

(2) RD in HoH trial – FD and VA join up one night unexpectedly and kill RD to backflag both our guilds … Thanks, FD

(3) FD and VA in the past have backflag a few of each other guild members by allowing them on their POP flag raids … Thanks, FD


I wait to be surprise again and see what good comes from us working together and what the future has to hold.


-Cheeta

(1) SSRA Emperor – After fighting over the Emperor, we had a limited raid sharing where 20 VA members join FD raid. I was one of the 20 that got rift that night and complete my VT key because of it … Thanks, FD


Err, My bad ... 15 VA members join FD raid. I was one of the 15 that got a rift that night ... Whatever the number was, it was still us working together which doesn't happen that often .... Thanks, FD

-Cheeta

Well I'm most certain the same goes for FD. You see Heruu, we never leapfrogged you, never sat on a spawn where you had the numbers to engage and we didn't, never KS'd you, never ninja looted from you, never trained you at a zone line, and never asked you to help us kill a mob that we had not done on our own, never threatened to petition you for not sharing a zone. Can you say the same?

Chenoa, we have never leapfrogged you, never sat on a spawn where you had the number to engage and we didn't, never KS'd, never held back bad things your members did to us solely for use as "weapons" on NAG, never used Guides and GMs to steal mobs from you, and never followed behind you to try lag you out and gank the spawn.


Let's talk about what FD, as a guild, has done:
Leapfrogging: Your officers have complained to people outside the guild about RIP leapfrogging you in VT. Yet, you turn around and do the same to them, and state in a public channel that you intend to do it to us.

Zone Disruptions: (AKA "Lagging another guild out") You followed us up into the Emperor's chamber when we clearly had the numbers to do the encounter. You sat there while we did Blood and you waited until we had the Emperor half dead before casting not one, but TWO AE TLs. RIP has also reported you doing the same things to them in VT and Ssra. Then FD has the gall to bitch RIP out in Tactics for the exact same thing that FD has done to other guilds.

Using EQ CSR to steal mobs from other guilds: There's the whole mess with RIP and FD and the Emp and Cursed. Both sides have their stories, but I'm more inclined to believe Malse's story over FD's. But even discount that mess, FD has still clearly used GMs and Guides to steal mobs from other guilds. *cough*Arch Lich Rhag`Zadune*cough*

And what about those actions by individual VA members?
Rift looting: Not reported to us, held back in reserve by FD as dirt to use against VA on NAG.
Zoneline training in VT: Not reported to us, held back in reserve by FD as dirt to use against VA on NAG.
Shard looting: OMG! FD actually reported something! This was investigated and dealt with by the VA officers in a manner that we felt was consistent with the evidence provided by both sides. Sorry if FD didn't like the sentence we handed down, but FD was the plaintiff in this case, and as such, doesn't get to pick the sentence.

So, aside from the isolated and largely non-reported actions of non-officer members (some of whom have since been removed from the guild), and a couple possible bad judgement calls on numbers required to kill a target, is that all you've got against us? Compared with the shit you've done to us and other guilds?

We see a target, we move to it, if VA beats us with a raid force sufficient to succesfully engage and hopefully kill the target, we move on, just as we did in the emp room. But no, we are not going leave because there are 3 VA sitting in a zone saying, we were here first. Just as VA did not leave and went so far as to coth in and sit in the middle of the room even though we had a full raid force sitting at 1st floor blob in VT. I wonder, where was the "respect" and not pushing people off the "stairs" that you speak of that night?

Pure and utter bullshit, but standard tacitcs for you, Chenoa. As I've said before, and as has been said by others, FD waited in the Emp's chamber while we killed Blood and didn't leave until we had the Emperor half dead. That night, there was no "3 VA sitting in a zone saying, we were here first", we had a fully capable raid force up at the portal and in the Emperor's chamber, but still FD followed us up. So much for "if VA beats us with a raid force sufficient to succesfully engage and hopefully kill the target, we move on."

If you had said "if VA beats us with a raid force sufficient to succesfully engage and hopefully kill the target, we move on after lagging them out for over half the battle and trying to screw them up with two AE TLs", then you might be right.

(Queue up Chenoa trotting out our wipes on our first time spawning the Emp and our subsequent wipe on Blood (with a bare minimum of players)....)

Truthfully, we have never done anything with blocking VA in mind. We know full well the time zone difference it kind of negates any real competition between us.

Yeah, everyone here knows about your definition of "truthfully". I don't know where you got it from, but it's not in any English dictionary I've looked in.

on a happy note.. HOW about dem CUBS!

Has anyone saw Ice Age ?
My favorite part was the Dodo birds and how they tryed to bully the main charactors only ending up looking stupid and dead.

Oh, and Cheeta, if you go look at the times that VA and FD has worked together on PoP spawns or backflagged each other's members, I'm sure you will see that it wasn't Chenoa that was arranging things on FD's side. I believe it was Dashmoo that was the "go to girl" in all of those instances.

In fact, on some of the backflagging cases, Chenoa was actively trying to block our people from getting flags, based upon the tells I was getting from our members.

80ish = bare minimum?

heh.

I blame Vaxumgax...

Funny that you mention "80". I seem to recall one of our members noticing you guys zerging VT with 80 people one night, while we were killing the Emperor with slightly more than half that, many of whom were bots/alts that were filling critical roles like CC and Healing.

Unfortunately, since I was under the mistaken impression that I was a ranger at that time, the only record I have of this besides our DKP server entry is the logs of people saying "FD has 80 people in VT? *snicker*zerg!*snicker*".

Of course, you will probably deny that ever happened, but with the meticulous records your guild keeps, I'm sure you could make any event, no matter how large, disappear.

Not when you make it sound like you weren't trying to screw us by disorienting the CC crowd by AETL'ing out in a cry baby fit because you didn't get what you wanted.

I was there that night and due to lack of communication, nearly a 3rd of the damn raid force went past the one-way door. Let me ask you, just how else do you get out of that room without porting? LOL, if we wanted to screw you over we would have just started breaking mezzes like somone did to us once.

Unfortunately, since I was under the mistaken impression that I was a ranger at that time, the only record I have of this besides our DKP server entry is the logs of people saying "FD has 80 people in VT? *snicker*zerg!*snicker*".

Son of a...damn I hate not being able to edit.

Unfortunately, since I was under the mistaken impression that I was a ranger at that time, the only record I have of this besides our DKP server entry is the logs of people saying "FD has 80 people in VT? *snicker*zerg!*snicker*".

People are there for loot. Even at 80, 1 in 4 have a good chance to go home with something.

It's rare that we peak a full raid force.

Typical is 50-60. Often even less.

Typical numbers for a growing guild in PoP.

I'm not the one who called our force minimal btw. :)

Its rare for us to have a full raid unless we're doing a new god that everyone needs. Even our last RZtW kill was kinda low on numbers for the event. We had around 60.

Hello all, old to the server new to these boards. I dont know much about FD, but i do know that VA sucks donkey dick, you all suck, you all whine, you all are immature. Malse you suck to, your guild doesnt suck as much as VA though, you can take some happiness to that effect, but still on a rating of 1-10, your at a 3, which means, you suck but dont swallow, which means your nothing but a guild of whores! FD now one of your members trained me while back, but i havnt decided if you guys suck or not. Anyway to break things down, VA you suck dick malse you suck dick, just like XA used to suck dick, thank you peace out!

Primochingaso
65 Necro
Ayonae Ro

You're a druid, you tell me?

But since this seems to be another area in which your guild is totally inept, I'll tell you.

How to get out of Emperor Ssra's chamber without AE TL when another guild is doing the encounter:
1) Have everyone that isn't a druid or wizard that has some sort of gating capability gate out.
2) Group the reminaing non-gaters with the wizards and druids and teleport out, or evac.
3) If you don't have enough druids or wizards to get the non-gaters out, then you tell the other guild "Sorry, we fucked up and came up here. We've gated everyone out that can possibly be gated out to reduce the lag we're causing you. We would be most grateful if we could hitch a ride out with you guys when you're done"

"Nearly 1/3 of the raid force"? Bullshit, unless your raidforce that day consisted of 150 people. The way my framerate cratered when I turned to look around at your guild that night was a solid indication that there were more than the 20-30 people you're trying to say got up there.

You should submit that article to rpgexpert!

You misunderstand. 1/3 of the raid force went in first without instruction to do so. So, everyone was told to go in after. So, almost 10 minutes of group arranging to get people out when you can cast one spell? You have to be kidding me. If it disoriented your CC that much, then you had bigger problems to worry about than us that day.

It's rare that we peak a full raid force.

Typical is 50-60. Often even less.

Typical numbers for a growing guild in PoP.

That's funny, our DKP sever says the same thing about us.

I'm not the one who called our force minimal btw.

For clarity, I was talking about the raid force we had during one of the last clashes we had over the Emperor.

Numbers-wise, we had 30-ish, I believe. On a purely numerical basis, that was enough for Blood, and even the Emperor himself, given the proper class mix. On that day, however, we had a far from optimal class mix. We had bards or chanters doubled up on mez duty, and we may have had rangers offtanking some of the unmezzable snakes, and most importantly, we had a small number of clerics and an even smaller number of druids and only one shaman.

You misunderstand. 1/3 of the raid force went in first without instruction to do so. So, everyone was told to go in after. So, almost 10 minutes of group arranging to get people out when you can cast one spell? You have to be kidding me. If it disoriented your CC that much, then you had bigger problems to worry about than us that day.

So, 1/3 of your raid force fucked up and you decide to compound the fuckup by sending everyone in? Sheer brilliance... you should give yourselves golden stars! Or better yet, how about we rename your guild to "Destiny's Lemmings"...

10 minutes of group arranging? HAHAHA!

/guild Guys, listen closely, we fucked up and we're leaving:
/guild 1) If you are not a wizard or druid and can gate yourself out, disband from the raid and do so now.
/guild 2) If you are druid or wizard, disband from the raid and await further instructions
/guild 3) If you cannot gate out, disband from the raid and go /lfg
/guild 4) Druids and Wizards invite the LFGs and teleport out when you have a full group.
/guild 5) If you don't get a port out, FD_wizard_01 will be staying behind to individually translocate you to your bind point. Send him /tells

Seems to me that would take quite a bit less than 10 minutes to execute....

Level 65 Ranger, no.. Rogue, no wait, Ranger. (Bah, I'm all confused, could someone tell me what class I am today?)Shaman. Boar and Focus, please.

This thread has reached the pointless... Chenoa, Minister of Minisformation for FD has proclaimed themselves saints; and since we all believe that (s)he's telling the truth, there's little point in discussing things.

Baltyn -- regarding Thana: We always felt that where there was smoke, there was fire. ...but we couldn't ever quite catch him in the act.

Thana leaving VA was "mutually beneficial to all parties."

There's a few ex-VA in FD whom we miss, people who either wanted to play on EST, or wanted a couple month jumpstart on their raiding advantage. Thana is not one of those people.

Buadyen or AKA dumbfuck wrote

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How to get out of Emperor Ssra's chamber without AE TL when another guild is doing the encounter:
1) Have everyone that isn't a druid or wizard that has some sort of gating capability gate out.
2) Group the reminaing non-gaters with the wizards and druids and teleport out, or evac.
3) If you don't have enough druids or wizards to get the non-gaters out, then you tell the other guild "Sorry, we fucked up and came up here. We've gated everyone out that can possibly be gated out to reduce the lag we're causing you. We would be most grateful if we could hitch a ride out with you guys when you're done"
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WTF are you thinking you stupid ass, is your guild so freaking lame you dont have a single wizard? i agree with moklianne, with to much effort im familiar with emp fight, and i have to say your fucking stupid ass, but that stands to reason cuase your guild is just fucking useless. You're like the foreskin on my cock. You have no fucking purpose and you just keep gettin in the way. I'd rather spend 15 hours in splitpaw sitting with my thumb up my ass than ever grouping with someone from your guild. You all are a complete waste of human flesh, you can all lick my asshole you freaking cunts. VA= angry fat lesbians with tiny fingers.......FACT! Malse i had some time to think about your guild since my last post, im gonna have to say, your guild is farther in planer advancement than VA, prolly always will be, but i have come to the conclusion thats your a freaking bigit. Your guild still sucks cock, considering your in PoF, (and you apparently like it there, cuase you cant get any farther in advancement) but i guess your guild sucks good cock, there's is something to write home about! "Hi Mom, Malse here, i can suck a mean cock, i mean i suck good!" "i tought all my friends to suck good cock to, all we do is suck cock in PoF" i hate cocksuckers :/

So to break this down, VA = angry lesbians
RIP = cocksuckers, and good ones to, here are some dedicated individuals who truly love the art of sucking on a nice big pole

Primochingaso
65 Necro
Ayonae Ro

hehe I know Pali I just like pointing it out to Thana every now and then...have done it in the past...will do it in the future im sure. Btw smack the crap out of Dama for me

Maybe you should divert some of the effort you're expending in flaming and becoming familiar with the "emp fight" into spelling and grammar:

"i agree with moklianne, with to much effort im familiar with emp fight, and i have to say your fucking stupid ass, but that stands to reason cuase your guild is just fucking useless."

Primochingaso says, "your fucking stupid ass".
Vallis Aspectus and everyone else in the area rolls on the floor laughing their asses off at Primochingaso.

WTF is the point you're trying to get across here? That is, if you even HAVE a point to get across...

I'm usually pretty good at translating retard-speak into normal English, but this one has me stumped...

So, 1/3 of your raid force fucked up and you decide to compound the fuckup by sending everyone in?

We thought you were going to wipe. :b

And an AE TL is common practice for situations like that. We got used to it from other guilds as should you.

And an AE TL is common practice for situations like that. We got used to it from other guilds as should you.

Ah, so FD is like an abused child that passes the abuse they received down onto their children.

That makes you guys no better than the guilds that "abused" you. If FD was as good as Chenoa is trying to pass you guys off as, then you would be above "passing down" the abuse that you claim has been heaped onto you.

Instead of us spending 20 minutes rearranging groups, wouldn't it be easier to just tell everyone to click no on the TL message?

VA Member: WOW, a random TL message during the Empzorer Fight! I should click it!!!!

Cmon now, do you honestly think that was done to grief you? Management realized the spawn was lost, and you weren't going to wipe this time around, so we moved on to another target. Don't twist it into anything that it wasn't.

My point was, YOU suck, VA sucks end of story, let me spell it out for you

Youuuuuuu Fuuuuucking Suuuuuuuuck, lameass.

BTW heard you just whiped for a second time in VT, god you guys suck, maybe you should try a differnt technique?

VA approaches TVX
VA: "excuse me Mr. TVX but dont kill us, can we suck your dick instead?"
TVX: "what a lovely tea Party"
VA: hrmmmppp uuummmmm guuuud
TVX: "your still not getting my loot"
VA: "but we just sucked your dick!"
TVX: "exactly, that just means you all are cocksuckers, granted you are good cocksuckers, but still, just cocksuckers
VA: "but but whine whine"
TVX: "Maybe if you suck my ass we might work out a deal"
VA: slruuurp sluuurp
TVX: "na you guys suck, you really are a worthless guild"
VA: /e loading please wait
VA: "palimax tells the guild" OTM back to VT,,,,again,,,,bring more coffins


Primochingaso
65 necro
Ayonae Ro

Instead of us spending 20 minutes rearranging groups, wouldn't it be easier to just tell everyone to click no on the TL message?

VA Member: WOW, a random TL message during the Empzorer Fight! I should click it!!!!

Cmon now, do you honestly think that was done to grief you? Management realized the spawn was lost, and you weren't going to wipe this time around, so we moved on to another target. Don't twist it into anything that it wasn't.

Since it was Final Destiny, yes, we do.

Especially since you could have sent one person up there (didn't even have to be a rogue) and get the exact same information. Hell, you don't even have to send anyone up there. A ranger can tell you all you need to know just by watching tracking, or an enchanter, a wizard, a ranger, or a shaman could have used bind sight to monitor the situation.

If we had known it was coming, then, yes, we could have. But, since the only people that matter to FD is FD, you didn't warn us. What if one of our CC people had been trying to click a button or item right where the TL box's "yes" button is when it popped up? If anything, it was an additional unnecessary distraction on top of the one you were causing by barging into the room in the first place.

Have you ever seen us barge into a room once you've had a mob engaged, go "oops", and teleport out in the most disruptive way possible?

Now that's some bitterness. To create an account this morning just to flame VA? I'll give you two points though for at least including your character name.

But keep going. I'm enjoying watching Chenoa get owned 8 ways from sunday.

The AETL thing boils down to one question: Cast AETL on another guild fighting the emperor, cool or dick? You make the call!And, Primochingaso, who's in-game name CAN'T be that stupid, (and I believe the correct noun form is chingador anyway) -- I have a comment for you about this little gem:You're like the foreskin on my cock. You have no fucking purpose and you just keep gettin in the way.The 17 functions of the foreskin can be found HERE (http://www.circumstitions.com/Functions.html).

forgot what this thread is about but 2 interesting quotes:

EW doesn't equip alts - kinuvan

if it doesn't equip alts then how can you backup someone from ew that says "my alt has better equip than wicked shank so relative to my uberness it sucks"

that's what I thought you lie!! Now PLEASE let me loot a TA :)

Excuse me for being fairly new to this server... but where does this plan on taking anyone? -KaranasRanger

Funniest quote anywhere like the nag section is a place where we come to have discourse on the state of eq.. I mostly post trying to see how many pages we can get a thread to get to..

But keep going. I'm enjoying watching Chenoa get owned 8 ways from sunday.

No..believe me...Budyin or whatver his name is will never pwn me. Much like you can't.

He likes to twist the truth much like Malse, they make a great pair.


Go back to pissing off your guildmates Vhex...will be fun when they boot you for realizing the true asshole and dipshit you have always been.

Your rememberance of the TL incident in Emp room is quite flawed (or simply skewed to try to make FD look bad).


1st) VA was in emp room with 34 or so, threatening to engage and kill blood before we could get up there unless they received rifts in return for waiting. (They had yet to show they could kill emp even w/ 60+ at the time)

2nd) Anyone with half a brain knows that once Blood is engaged the trap at zone up spams nuke and dispel, AND if the blood killers TL the completing raid must be in Emp room to take over CC as Emp is LoS agro. Which provides ZERO time to set up for Emp and means 4 hour wait on next blood.

3rd) VA was cleverly delayed by long negotiations and when we were ready to enter Emp room the negotiations were closed.

4th) VA engages blood w/34 and within 2 minutes they were down to under 14 and most of their CC dead. THEY WERE DONE!

5th) Our CC began taking over as they lost agro, both to help VA out from a full CR and ease of transition. VA began rezzing up and despite having NO CC control and NO real further claim to Blood continued to engage in attempt to take blood anyway.

6th) Rather than wait and argue with them while they continued to do DPS to blood and kill it, we TL'd and let them have it, since they seemed to still believe that they had control of the situation and still owned blood without 7/8 of their CC crew alive.

7th) They wiped. We returned. Emp died.

You really should should tell the truth if you want to discredit FD. If you're just whining, then .... /passes Buadyen a Cracker Barrel Cheese basket.

He is referring to the NEXT time VA took on the Emperor (and won BTW) after the raid you are describing. FD made a mid fight appearance in the emperor chamber, just as he described, then cast not one but two AE TLs when it was clear we were not going to wipe (without interference that is). I was there. I saw it.

Primo, as muc has i like good flames, you are retarded and even Amplifyre was makin more intelligent posts than you. Shut up now.

Impresario Almadar Tegleftyln
Retired

if it doesn't equip alts then how can you backup someone from ew that says "my alt has better equip than wicked shank so relative to my uberness it sucks"

that's what I thought you lie!! Now PLEASE let me loot a TA

1 - Wicked Shank sucks, that's pretty clear

2 - maybe their alt did LDon and got that dagger, I can't think of a time in recent memory where we let an alt (that wasn't 2boxed on raids *Sinshiu/Dalten*) loot an item. Aside from a week or so of not doing ldon and only one night in time so leet elemental farming

Unless you consider Gokuu an alt!

Your rememberance of the TL incident in Emp room is quite flawed (or simply skewed to try to make FD look bad).
Kulman, you're completely and utterly mistaken. You paint a wonderful picture of a COMPLETELY different day in Ssra.

If you're going to come here and post how mistaken we are, at least have the common sense to know what we're talking about before you try to set other people straight.

Also, I have a quick question. You guys seem hung up on "How hard is it to click NO on the TL box?" Interesting question. If it's not so hard to click the right box, WHY THE FUCK DID YOU HAVE TO CAST IT TWICE?Cast AETL on another guild fighting the emperor, cool or dick? You make the call!

I miss XA at least back then it was alot more obvious who the assholes where :(

pretty nice typing skills there Primo to flame a guild with no real evidence except heresay. Please, like Almadar said, cease and desist.

The first time FD crashed our party, we had enough to try for Blood, so why not? Sure this takes the emp from you, but if you wanted to negotiate to secure rights to the emp, all we wanted was a share of Blood loot and some left over rifts. If you don't want to negotiate then we had the right to attempt Blood.

But it didn't happen the way you describe it. We lost a few to start, but nowhere near half our force. CC regained control of the situation and Blood was in his corner. I was holding two mobs mezzed. Not a problem. I got a tell from Mezzmoron saying that he was there to help and that he had my mobs. I didn't know who he was, but we had been expecting guests from SoT and one other guild and I assumed it was one of them. I double checked with him which mobs he had. I went to melee and Blood was in the corner and things looked good. Blood left his corner to whack someone and FD TL'd out and we wiped shortly after. Of course their departure destroyed CC which had been under control. I know the fight was iffy, we were understaffed. But we had a right to try without interference. That's all. If we mess up, he's all yours, but we weren't given the chance to succeed or fail on our own.

There were two other times FD came into the emperor's chambers and then AETL'd out. The first time someone actually /ooc'd oops, so I guess we're to assume they didn't know we had engaged. Although they would certainly have known it before entering the main room. The TL box is a bit disorienting the first time you see one especially if you're off in a corner doing CC and you aren't watching the rest of the raid. It's a distraction. No one did mess up, but it upset a lot of people.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Go back to pissing off your guildmates Vhex...will be fun when they boot you for realizing the true asshole and dipshit you have always been.<hr></blockquote>

Oh nos! I'm an asshole! Please to alert the presses! Bos, did you know I'm an asshole!?!? OMGOSH!

i think he got voted in because he IS an asshole, can never have too many assholes

bet that sounds pretty weird

Asshole > drama queen any day.

Of course we'd TL out if you were succeeding. Why should we waste time sitting there helping reduce Emp's proc / cast rate with the lag created when there are other targets waiting for us? As for whether or not it disrupted your raid and made you fail? Not our problem if people take TL that weren't supposed to. Two casts? That would be 2 wizzies casting w/o knowing the other was or some missed the TL because they weren't close enough, it happens.

Problem is that it was no win situation for us. IF we had stayed you'd have whined that we were trying to lag you out by staying the whole fight, when we leave you whine too. /passes more cheese baskets out.

And my numbers are accurate on the description above, Hawk. Check your logs.

Looks to the left.....

Looks to the right.....

Makes sure Zehn isn't in the room......

Come play SWG and leave the drama behind! :D

Or.........don't............

These boards make WAY better reading than the Sony SWG boards sadly :rolleyes

Oh nos! I'm an asshole! Please to alert the presses!

No...your not an asshole...your a retard...there's a huge difference.

Not a problem. I got a tell from Mezzmoron saying that he was there to help and that he had my mobs.

Thats because your officers asked us to help, unfortunately once we got it under control, they reneged and decided to call off the deal that was made. Thats why we TL'd out.

In all honesty, I really think you need to see a shrink bro. If you think SWG is all that and a cup of sweetness you really need to get your hands dirty and play some real video games. The Sims in space just does not jive with me, no matter how many storm troopers you throw in.

But...but.....There's more stuff now!

In fact we have Rebels trying to raid one of our bases as we speak.

Making up raids again, Chenoa? You guys should really learn to do some research before commenting on raids.

Thats because your officers asked us to help, unfortunately once we got it under control, they reneged and decided to call off the deal that was made. Thats why we TL'd out.

Well, you picked a couple of details and tried to twist them around to suit your twisted agend.... and you're trying to get people to believe that I twist things around?

So... here's what you got right:
1) "Thats because your officers asked us to help". Not entire true, but there is some kernel of truth there.
2) "Thats why we TL'd out." Well, you did that, too.

Anyway, like any good guild officer should, my log runs constantly while I play, so it will allow us to see through your bullshit.

Here's what really went down that night. (December 5, the night we wiped on Blood with minimal forces)

1) Emp/Blood spawns. VA moves and gets up there first. Numbers are building slowly.
2) FD starts showing up.
3) VA (mistakenly, you'd think we'd have learned from the first time) tries to work something out with Chenoa
4) VA and FD numbers continue to grow
5) For whatever reason, negotiations start to break down.
6) VA takes stock of their numbers, notices that numbers-wise, we have enough to try, although our class mix that day was a little on the poor side. (Espeically in the healing department)
7) Negotiations totally break down, VA decides to try it on our own.
8) I pull Blood and start the fight
9) Enchanter dies, then the few healers we have there start getting killed
10) More people start dying, FD starts jumping in to the failing situation.
11) Situation starts getting under control.
12) FD AE TLs out.

Once negotiations broke off and once we engaged, no one asked you for help. We know how well you remember raids (hint: not very.) You must be confusing the raid I described above (which is also the same one Kulman and Hawkai described) with the one back in October. You know, the one in which we both wiped and the Emperor made an appearance at the entrance? The one that netted VA 15 rifts?

On that raid in October, Larlaana did ask you guys for help once the battle started to go sour. For the December Debacle, however, once the combat started, there was no asking FD for help, as much as you may think there was.


He likes to twist the truth much like Malse, they make a great pair.

Funny, looks to me like you're the one twisting the truth around, but it's already been established that you have a different definition of "truth" than the rest of the human race.

In fact we have Rebels trying to raid one of our bases as we speak.

Thats SWG speak for a round of hide the sausage.

Nihou!

Keen! 11 pages!

We have 2 more days before Friday! Let's get to 20 pages!

More flaming and less rationale please. I am entertained.

Tremain! Long time no see! How are ya bud?

Primochingaso was accused a few posts back of being even more nonsensical than Amplifyer. I disagree. He can obviously hold a thought for more than 4 sentances. And he seems to have some focus...mostly I think he's got a oral fixation.


With Tolerance For Cheap Fun...

Valarian

vehx, zhen, vhen, vehn, vehz or what ever


you are such an asshole

I agree Deecee that had to be the Funniest thing I have ever seen... goes to show why they are extinct!

3) VA (mistakenly, you'd think we'd have learned from the first time) tries to work something out with Chenoa

See, right there you lied you fucking retard. It wasn't me that any of your officers spoke with. Try again, remember real hard who you or your other officers talked to.

You know, I don't think I've ever in my life seen anyone who just purely lies at the expense of someone else as you do.

I dealt directly with VA on 2 emp raids, the october raids, the ones that we rifted your guild on before they ever killed the emp. Gratz on getting rifts from a mob you had never killed at the time. Says alot for your guild pride, too bad VA takes the "help us get into a zone approach, you should because its only a matter of time before we get there anyhow".

Well, with officers like yourself, I guess I can see how they get that "gimme" attitude.


Your big "I gotcha" is one day in Vex Thal I said...We are just going to CoTh past you while both guilds were at the zone in. 0hN0's Chenoa said she would coth past us.


You love to make long winded claims, yet never have you posted a log of any conversation between me and a VA officer concerning any spawn, and the reason is, you know it would prove all your accusations are false. Your a liar, you know it, I know it and unfortunately for you it seems many in your guild are realizing it.

Post some more logs of battle spam, your good at doing that, too bad they have no substance other than a time stamp. 0Hn0's I got Chenoa, she said that happened on the 24th, but it happened on the 28th. The funniest thing I've found in your posts is, you never prove it didnt go the way I've said and even shown it did, just that I had the date wrong that it happened on.

Gratz retard, you've proven the one thing I already knew, I don't give enough of a shit about EQ to remember the exact dates that something occurred on.

You didn't prove anything either.

Wow, never knew so many guilds will fight in VT for mobs..too much to read just read like 1 or 2 page hehe. Woop go go post count. I'd love to see if PoTime will be like VT..would be funny to see multiple guild in time fight for mobs in the same circumstance

I think my favorite thing to come out of this thread was on the "Functions of the Foreskin" page Palimax linked.
15. Pigmented, it protects the unpigmented glans against sunburn
Who knew!?

It is good to see some genuine animosity between guilds. Reading this I find myself somewhat missing the competitive race-the-other-guild-for-spawn_04-OTMnownowNOW! aspect of EQ... just a tiny, tiny bit though.

Just me, or, historically, have threads such as these seemed to have some peculiar commonality... XA vs FD; RiP vs FD; VA vs FD... hrm... whatever could that be...

whatever could it be korl? Im not sure please enlighten me :(

You'll notice every one of his comparisons have the letters 'vs' in them!! That must be it!

I was there that night and due to lack of communication, nearly a 3rd of the damn raid force went past the one-way door. Let me ask you, just how else do you get out of that room without porting? LOL, if we wanted to screw you over we would have just started breaking mezzes like somone did to us once.

No other way to get out of the room but MUCH more tactful ways to deal with the situation. 1/3 of you ported into the room due to a lack of communication. Granted communication errors occur. Ok how do we deal with the situation? Port the other 2/3 out to reduce lag and have the 1/3 who pounced prematurely sit on their thumbs until the raid is over.

Much cleaner solution to the same problem, hey i did the best i could without DISTURBING your raid... That is acceptable, in fact, that is admirable.

-Heruu

WTF is the point you're trying to get across here? That is, if you even HAVE a point to get across...

I think Primo just wants some attention! No point, just penis envy. He might as well have just wrote BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH, he would have gotten the same attention without coming off as a 12 year old who just learned new words at school like Cock, and Foreskin.

Thats because your officers asked us to help, unfortunately once we got it under control, they reneged and decided to call off the deal that was made. Thats why we TL'd out.

HAHAHA yeah lets set that one straight then K?

We were in there with about 35 at the time when YOU came charging in, at which point we still had folks coming. However, i (being at the head of that particular force) contacted YOU (being my first attempt at Chenoa communication i had NO idea what i was in for) and said we are here for emp but we can work together, in which case we agreed to a loot solution and we were TRYING to come to an agreement on rifts, but you kept saying Hold on, hold on, so after about 10 minutes of you ATTEMPTING to stall me so your numbers could increase to the point where you could dick us over, i TOLD YOU FLAT OUT "Give me a number or we are engaging you have 5 minutes" you refused to give me a number, and i engaged. At this point it wasnt (for me) about pass or fail it was about not getting dicked and setting the expectation that you can walk all over us.

Look above my toon next time you see it, it reads

Heruu Macar <Vallis Aspectus>

Not;

Chenoa's Bitch <FD's Red Carpet>

Did i make the call to engage blood at that time? your damn right i did, would i do it again if the situation repeated? Your damn right i would. Dont try and dick me and you wont have to go crying to the Nag board about waaaa VA hurt my feelings.

I blame Korl....its all his fault. He kicked my goat who stepped on my cat, who jumped on my keyboard, thereby gating me into velks and starting a train to the zone, wiping the entire zone and starting this chain of events for the past 4 years.

Go read the logs on the other thread Heruu. Match them to yours.

See, right there you lied you fucking retard. It wasn't me that any of your officers spoke with. Try again, remember real hard who you or your other officers talked to.

You know, I don't think I've ever in my life seen anyone who just purely lies at the expense of someone else as you do.

I dealt directly with VA on 2 emp raids, the october raids, the ones that we rifted your guild on before they ever killed the emp. Gratz on getting rifts from a mob you had never killed at the time. Says alot for your guild pride, too bad VA takes the "help us get into a zone approach, you should because its only a matter of time before we get there anyhow".

James Hetfield said (or sang, as it were) it best: "You lie so much you believe yourself."

[Fri Dec 05 17:44:30 2003] You tell vao:3, 'I really don't want to race any guilds for this.... it would be so much easier if we could work with FD and get what we need'
[Fri Dec 05 17:44:55 2003] Heruu tells vao:3, 'im all for it, IF they will work with us'
[Fri Dec 05 17:45:25 2003] You tell vao:3, 'Chenoa's here... I don't really even want to send her even a rude tell'
[Fri Dec 05 17:46:07 2003] Heruu tells vao:3, 'i will work with her if need be'
[Fri Dec 05 17:53:15 2003] Heruu tells vao:3, 'ok going to (shudder) open communications with (shudder) chimpnoa'
[Fri Dec 05 17:54:48 2003] Heruu tells vao:3, 'Chenoa says they need 12 rifts'
[Fri Dec 05 17:55:19 2003] Heruu tells vao:3, 'incidentally thats the first time i got a number from her since the last time i asked (at the first em
p cluster fuck)'

Oopsies! Chenoa fucks up again! The "first emp cluster fuck" that Heruu refers to is Oct 24, the time we got the 15 rifts.

You love to make long winded claims, yet never have you posted a log of any conversation between me and a VA officer concerning any spawn, and the reason is, you know it would prove all your accusations are false. Your a liar, you know it, I know it and unfortunately for you it seems many in your guild are realizing it.

Acutally, I don't need to post logs, you posted them for me, right here (http://pub142.ezboard.com/fayonaerofrm6.showMessageRange?topicID=3593.topic&start=241&stop=260) in the "More fun with RIP and FD in Ssra" thread...

So much for " It wasn't me that any of your officers spoke with. Try again, remember real hard who you or your other officers talked to.".

Oh, and thanks for basically admitting you were blowing the spawn on purpose.

Gratz VA...your officers gimped another spawn just so another guild couldn't get it. The epitome of cockblockers.

Okay Chenoa, keep saying it enough times and it might actually become true... sometime after the Sun goes Nova/Supernova and incinerates this planet.

Just like you never wiped on AHR, except for you first time engaging and when the server crashed. Oh, and the other time that I witnessed that happened in between the other two wipes....

Gratz...I was asked a question about how many rifts we needed...I answered it. That makes me the raid leader?

You guys really try and turn everything into nothing.

So, lets see, Heruu asks me how many rifts we need. I say 12.


Ok..you've proven now, we needed 12 rifts.

Basically what any 5 year old could get from your posts is:

1) You made a deal.

2) You broke that deal.

3) You purposely blew a spawn to prevent another guild that had the raid force there to kill it.

4) You will at anytime blow a spawn knowing you have a high chance of wiping just to prevent another guild from getting it.

5) You completely suck at negotiating an honest deal.


Only 2 kinds of people don't see through your bullshit, retards and those here just to keep a flame alive.

Just like you never wiped on AHR, except for you first time engaging and when the server crashed. Oh, and the other time that I witnessed that happened in between the other two wipes....

Right, which was a server reset. Sucks to log back in in that room.

Funny, if you put SoT, EW, IVM, RiP, FD, and VA in that room and everyone logged in on a server up, everyone would die.


Once again captain obvious speaks. We wiped on AHR on a server reset.

about pass or fail it was about not getting dicked and setting the expectation that you can walk all over us.

Translation: If you get to a mob with a force that can kill it, and VA is there with a force that can't. They will engage that mob just to spite you.

Because if you beat them in a race, it's not beating them, it's "walking all over them"

Talk about whiners...hahahaha

yup, thats what i said... you forget everyone here can read to? They can make their own determination on what i said and what it means, they dont need your twisted sense of reality, all that does is show exactly how skewed you are in your perceptions.

And Mrs. Captain Denial speaks again!

Do we have to go over this again?

1) Sometime before December, you wiped on your first AHR attempt, as admitted by yourself and other FD members.
2) On December 14, BEFORE the Casino patch and BEFORE the week of many patches, you wiped again when Va Xi Aten Ha Ra spawned along with her warders.
3) Then, on December 18, the server crashed, costing you another AHR spawn.

So only one of is us right, and it isn't the druid from Final Destiny.

Unless you expect people to believe that a Ranger somehow got a bind sight target in Aten Ha Ra's with no one else in the zone?

'incidentally thats the first time i got a number from her since the last time i asked (at the first emp cluster fuck)

You see, the time i am refering to with the pass or fail comment was referred to here as (First emp cluster fuck) during which you chose NOT to give me a number, in fact you chose to try and stall me while your numbers grew.

Your idea of how many you need to kill blood is bad. We had enough as i said we were at 35+. But beside that point altogether you say that i will engage just to spite another guild. No! But when you started getting to the point where you could ditch us despite our attempts at cooperation i made a call that i would make over and over again to protect the interests of VA and engage Blood to make a point which was OBVIOUSLY seen for what it was given the example of the following attempt at cooperation (Again initiated by VA) during which you actually gave me a number.

I will also say that at that point in our communications it was apparent by many facts that you were in charge. It was not until Dashmoo arrived about an hour later that negotiations took a more honest role.

No, i think it is you who suck at negotiating Chenoa because of the fact that you assume that people will roll over to your feeble attempts at screwing them.

And no, i really dont do to much with logs. I have about as much time to sift through log file looking for a conversation i would just as soon forget as i do to organize my monopoly bank. Besides we have all seen how useful logs are by how you put them down after editing them to say what you want them to say.

2) On December 14, BEFORE the Casino patch and BEFORE the week of many patches, you wiped again when Va Xi Aten Ha Ra spawned along with her warders.

Actually this is not accurate. It was during the timeframe of the week of many patches

Ogan, as one of the widely acknowledge decent FD officers, you shouldn't listen to Chenoa's blathering.

The Casino was patched in Dec 18. The servers crashed that night. That was also the night the Uber-bugged Emperor Ssra made an appearance. I later heard through other channels that the server issues cost you guys AHR. It may have happened Dec 18, or it may have happened during the subsequent patch-fest when I was offline for a few days. I'm not disputing that.

However, the screenshots I posted were from late Dec 14 and early Dec 15. Unless you expect people to believe:

1) That I don't know what day I took those screenshot on
2) That a ranger got a bind sight target in AHR's room by himself with no one else in the zone to let him "hop" bind sight up there

Then you guys are quite mistaken.

Akhevan Warders make baby jesus cry. :(

Yippp Yippp Yippp
Yappp yapp Yapp
Yippp Yippp Yippp
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Yippp Yippp Yippp
Yappp yapp Yapp
Yippp Yippp Yippp
Yappp yapp Yapp

.....


Omg my head hurts. This is going to surpass the infamous Gandien thread.

Akhevan Warders make baby jesus cry.

Apparently Aten Ha Ra does, too.

[Mon Dec 15 02:28:09 2003] You say to your guild, 'AHR at 98%....'

[Mon Dec 15 02:41:38 2003] You say to your guild, 'Aten Ha Ra at 51%'

I know you guys only had 29 or so people there that night, but damn... almost 20 minutes to knock her down 50%? That's a long ass fight!

Oh, and not only am I a Ranger/Rogue, I also apparently am a psychic, too:

[Mon Dec 15 02:42:53 2003] You say to your guild, 'about the only way they could wipe now is if the warders respawned and someone aggroed them'
[Mon Dec 15 02:44:20 2003] You say to your guild, 'you know how I said the only way they could fail was if the warders respawned?'
[Mon Dec 15 02:44:31 2003] You say to your guild, 'well, guess what.... they did, and she AE DT'd them'

If Va Xi Aten Ha Ra hadn't spawned then and if you guys could manage to stay awake, you would have dropped her again that night.

Buadyen,
I was there... It was one of the many nights we hit VT that week. It was a late evening and server crashed, we promptly hit VT, as we did pretty much all that week. We had only 26ish that evening and made it to AHR pretty fast. We engaged got her to 35% ish when warder spawned and AE DT went off. Not much you can do there. It might have been the beginning of the Crashes/patches week of insanity but it was during that timeframe.

in fact you chose to try and stall me while your numbers grew.

No, I was trying to convince my guild and the other officers to let you have 15 rifts, most wanted to just kill the mob. Our numbers were more than VA had, we had the right amounts for CC, you did not. Read the logs, I assure you they arent edited.

Nice backpedaling Buyadian or whatver the fuck your name is. You proved my point and made your's mute.

Yippee we wiped to a respawn of warders in AHR room man do we suck, guess what dipshit, a combined force of EW and Fires of Heaven would have wiped. Stop grabbing at fucking straws retard, EVERYONE now knows what a manipulating lying piece of crap you are.

OMG...FD wiped on AHR...so it took how many threads and how many posts until you finally show that it was a warder spawn?

Gratz VA on letting shit lead you, what a bunch of lying fucking pieces of shit your officers have proven to be.

haha! Though im really not fond of beating a dead horse. It is kind of funny how when you have nothing else to say you go right to the "you guys are poopy" approach.

anyhoo, im through.

layta!

-Heruu

I don't get it, we suck because 6 unkillable ae death touch mobs spawned and raped us?

Did a bit of research and you are right patch/crash week started around the 18th, by your logs I can easily believe the 15th was the night it happened. That week was so insane crap all I remember was VT...patch .... VT... crash... VT. So including that evening within that week is really not far fetched.

Sorry for the hijack back to your normal flaming...

This is bad to see people talk so bad about a guild they dont even know. then to curse at us as well. This is just completely stupid. You talk crap about the guild but yet your members still come to us for help and we help them with out a complaint. So who is it now you or your guild that has the problem with VA. Then you complain about people saying things about a wipe but yet you guys do the same. so why put down other guilds doing it. as if i can remeber this thread started over va clearing VT. SO it begins with FD. Think about it logically. Read the quote its true in war noone wins.


In peace we conqure all in war we conqure noone....

No, I was trying to convince my guild and the other officers to let you have 15 rifts, most wanted to just kill the mob. Our numbers were more than VA had, we had the right amounts for CC, you did not. Read the logs, I assure you they arent edited.

Funny, we killed Blood that day, sounds like we had the right amounts for CC to me. We wiped on the Emperor that day, which was our first time triggering him.

OMG...FD wiped on AHR...so it took how many threads and how many posts until you finally show that it was a warder spawn?

Gratz VA on letting shit lead you, what a bunch of lying fucking pieces of shit your officers have proven to be.

One thread (http://pub142.ezboard.com/fayonaerofrm1.showMessageRange?topicID=5327.topic&start=101&stop=119), actually. If you reread the thread, you'll notice that my story was consistent through out. With each post, I revealed more information... why would show all of my "cards" right off the bat? Especially when I got to watch you do your best imitation of Iraqi Bob! Correction, that thread was your second best imitation of him... you FAR surpassed your previous efforts in this thread.

Congratualtions, once again you get backed into a corner by one of your own guildmates (an officer this time!) and resort to insults.

Ogan, you should be proud to be serving next to a fine (*snicker*), upstanding (*guffaw*), and trustworthy (*ROFL*) officer like Chenoa.

I don't get it, we suck because 6 unkillable ae death touch mobs spawned and raped us?

No Bos, we only suck when you leave that part out.


We raced a clock, had a ton of fun. Knew the possibilities and did it to see if we could beat the clock. We lost, the clock won that round. /shrug I and the 22 who were in VT that night had a great time. Thanks for pissing on our fun and turning it into something it wasn't.

Nihou!

Keen! 11 pages!

We have 2 more days before Friday! Let's get to 20 pages!

More flaming and less rationale please. I am entertained.

Tremain! Long time no see! How are ya bud?

With Tolerance For Cheap Fun...

Valarian

Hey bro, been doing ok for the most part. I don't check this boards often anymore, guess im missing all the fun.

heruu wrote

I think Primo just wants some attention! No point, just penis envy. He might as well have just wrote BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH, he would have gotten the same attention without coming off as a 12 year old who just learned new words at school like Cock, and Foreskin.

In responce to that all i have to say is "blah blah blah blah, shut the hell up you homo-erotic fuck tard, blah blah blah blah bite me blah blah blah blah. Blah Blah Blah Blah blah blah blah bite me blah blah blah blah. Blah Blah Blah Blah blah blah blah bite me blah blah blah blah. Blah Blah Blah Blah blah blah blah BITE ME blah blah blah blah. Blah Blah Blah Blah blah blah blah bite me blah blah blah blah. Blah Blah Blah Blah and let your momma know blah blah blah is better than hmmmmmmmmm when she is going down, blah blah blahblah blah blah bite me blah blah blah blah. Blah Blah Blah Blah, i will give her a 9 though cuase your momma did swallow my shit blah blah blah ASSWIPE blah blah blah blah. Blah Blah Blah Blah so did your sister she sucks a mean cock blah blah blah bite me blah blah blah blah. Blah Blah Blah Blah gag urggggg blah blah blah bite me blah blah blah blah. Blah Blah Blah Blah ummmmmm argggggg gargle gargle gargle blah blah blah bite me blah blah blah blah. Blah Blah Blah Blah damh your family sucks good dick! blah blah blah bite me blah blah blah blah. Blah Blah Blah Blah



Primochingaso
65 Necro
Ayonae Ro
7th grade is still fun,
you have become better at Blah! (196)

I don't get it, we suck because 6 unkillable ae death touch mobs spawned and raped us?Dart/Bos - Nobody has ever said, "FD sucks because they died to a mob once." (Or twice, or 74 times...) We wipe to mobs we're learning. We wipe to mobs when something unexpected happens. We wipe to mobs when the server glitches. Everyone else has those things happen to them too.

What we don't have, however, is an endless string of denial about it. What happens with you guys is that something comes up, and then Chenoa denies it, denies it, denies it, lies about it, lies about it, lies aobut it -- finally gets cornered -- and then quickly changes the topic to a new insult.

This whole thing is about attitude, realy. Chenoa keeps going back to how sad we are for taking "gifts" of rifts (as if those first dozen or so rifts helped us get into VT any fast), when all we wanted to do was reduce the tension in Ssra. Every officer in our guild had one priority -- just get the Emperor arguments over with, as quickly as painlessly as possible.

Am I pathetic if I just sat and read this ENTIRE thread?

Primo wrote ... uh ... something!

Yeah i'm hurt, i saw that all before, keep trying fucknut, i might crack a smile at some point.

Heruu wrote

Blah blah blah, i dont remember i tuned him out

I originally posted on some guilds suckiness, now i have a new purpose in life, To teach heruu's mom how to suck cock better.

I would like to mention, Palimax your little foreskin link was funny ill give you that! And to be honest its not your fault your guild is full of idiots and retards.

Palimax tells your guild: OTM
Palimax tells your guild: god damnit, stop sucking dick idiots i said OTM
Heruu Tells his guild: hrmmmm urmm this is good!
Buadyen tells his guild: god Heruu's mom sucks mean cock, but his sister has a nicer ass, but to be honest i love how his dad wiggles his tongue in my ass
Palimax Tells your guild: Hey assholes, EMP Crush is gonna be dead soon OTM now!!!!!!!

Heruu tells you: blah blah blah blah, hell ya i love it when you stick your fist in my ass, keep it coming!

And i would like to make an apology to the community, actually im going to apologize for Heruu and Buadyen, its not there fault if they are grumpy, they just recently came out of the closet, and since they want to be women, they are also simulated PMS /shrug i dont want to know, who understands flaming idiots

Primochingaso
65 necro
ayonae ro
You have become better at blah! (199)

I know you guys only had 29 or so people there that night, but damn... almost 20 minutes to knock her down 50%? That's a long ass fight!

It usually is with 30 or less.

Yup, still on the 3rd grade level, cant get past the mom and gay cock jokes. I'm soooo impressed. But hey dont take my word for it, someone else give this dickbasket a score of 1-10 on originality and overall comedic value, maybe im just dry.

Poopypants!!! <oh that hurts>