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Selwen Soulgazer
05-26-2006, 09:31 PM
Good flick. Definately worth the 15 bucks.

Osgiliath666
05-26-2006, 11:35 PM
15$!!!!! Tell me that was for you and like a date or soemthing!

Greystone Thorngage
05-26-2006, 11:48 PM
nah, $15 once you figure in the gas its more like $20. GG Repulicans :p aka the rich guys who own the company that owns the movie theater, thus making the prices $15.

fildien
05-26-2006, 11:54 PM
jesus christ $15 a ticket?!?!?

meeep thank god I live somewhere that it still costs just $8 or $6 for a matinee.

I want to see it!

Thormir
05-27-2006, 12:00 AM
Curse you, Halliburton...curse you.

Moglor
05-27-2006, 01:31 AM
I agree Selwen I just got back and I thought it was the best of all the movies. Kelsey Grammar did well, and Bobby was sweet when he took his ice form, fight scenes were well done and the cameos were sweet. People are suppose to keep a eye on the "B" list actors like Bobby, Rogue, Kitty because any new movies will be base around them.

Moglor
05-27-2006, 01:35 AM
oh btw did you see the previews....... GHOST....RIDER....HELL YES.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/ghostrider/high.html

Selwen Soulgazer
05-27-2006, 02:44 AM
15 was for me and my girlfriend.

Can somone PM me and tell me what happened after the credits? We didn't stick around 'cause we had to get home.

Haloface
05-27-2006, 05:31 AM
Of course it's a good flick. It's from Joss Whedon (Buffy, etc).Seeing it tonight =)

akipt
05-27-2006, 09:48 AM
Can somone PM me and tell me what happened after the credits? We didn't stick around 'cause we had to get home. Ah dang, I usually get a headsup when there's a post-credit scene. I wanna know too :(

Good movie btw, especially compared to the abyssmal stuff Hollywood has been putting out this year.

Ibudin
05-27-2006, 10:16 AM
Oh can't wait to see it.

akipt
05-27-2006, 10:35 AM
SPOILER with ending scene...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men:_The_Last_Stand

Nanora
05-27-2006, 10:54 AM
Man you guys are making me think I need to see it sooner rather than later. I usually wait a couple weeks for a movie to be out before going to see it. Guess I'll have to see it this weekend.

akipt
05-27-2006, 11:01 AM
I dunno if I'd change my movie-going habits just to see it sooner. From the reviews I've seen, people either like it or hate it...

I personally liked it because it had been awhile since I had seen a good movie... and Hollywood has me under mind-control to give them a certain amount of money every year. /twitch

Moglor
05-27-2006, 11:04 AM
I liked this movie better then the other ones because I thought the other ones didnt have enough action scenes, this one was all about mutant wars and that is pretty damn cool. I didnt know there was a teaser after the credit rolled i ran out of the theatre before everyone got up just to get out fast damn it

ainwein
05-27-2006, 01:01 PM
I was extremely happy with the movie. Smoke a blunt before you go if you want to do it justice!

Shortyrez Starfury
05-28-2006, 11:19 AM
Of course it's a good flick. It's from Joss Whedon (Buffy, etc).Seeing it tonight =)

I don't believe Joss Whedon had anything to do with X3.

Kelraz Bladesinger
05-28-2006, 10:57 PM
I liked it. Yes, it was horribly flawed if you are a die hard comic fan. That being said, it was a good movie and full of action and kinda tied the whole series together.

Haloface
05-29-2006, 06:24 AM
Didn't Joss do the other two? Figured he'd be on board again.

Nanora
05-29-2006, 11:40 AM
SPOILER with ending scene...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men:_The_Last_Stand

A Wolverine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_%28comics%29) spin-off (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_%28film%29) [9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men:_The_Last_Stand#_note-8) and a Magneto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto_%28comics%29) spin-off (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto_%28film%29) [10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men:_The_Last_Stand#_note-9) have been announced and are in the scripting stages of production.

Gotta like this tid bit of info. Will be interesting to see what they do with the spin-offs. May have to dig out my old books. BTW that Ghost Rider trailer was making me drool. Going to have to see that one in the theaters as well.

Kelraz Bladesinger
05-29-2006, 12:30 PM
I've been itching to read some of the old comics again - but they don't re-release them like they do books, right? The only way to get copies of the very first comics is to rob some rich guy's vault?

Cloudwalker21
05-29-2006, 03:10 PM
Just went and saw it today. Not bad at all, though Callisto was kind of butchered.

Garl
05-30-2006, 08:03 AM
Joss Whedon is doing one of the X-Men books... or at least he was. One of the storylines he came up with was the "cure" plotline used in the movie. He had no actual involvement in the movie though.

Sixee
05-30-2006, 09:27 AM
Magneto has his powers.
I'm thinking they are like a muscle, he's going to have to work to get them back where they were.
And do you really think Charles Xavier is dead?
LOL, The Astral Plane, my friend....

Thormir
05-30-2006, 09:38 AM
With another 5-10 minutes to at least say hello to some of the walk-ons, some better writing, and a good director it would have been a fantastic movie. Angel was a footnote (and had the completely predictable moment near the end), more Colossus was good but not enough, Jubilee was in the credits but invisible in the movie and so on. I was glad to see as much Kitty Pryde as we did, but more Juggs would be better (an opening sequence where the X-Men caught him in the first place would have been cool).

Magneto isn't a "What have I done?" kind of guy. His line there should have been, "Magnificent." Nice bit about him sticking up for Xavier tho'.

Bryan Singer directed the first two movies; he left the 3rd to shoot Superman Returns. X3 would have been far better in his hands; the directing throughout came across as uninspired. Joss Whedon would have made a good helmsman as well, especially the bits where Jean Grey goes all Willow on everything (not enough exulting in her power later in the film).

But there was a lot to like, touches nice and unexpected. It's a decent capstone to the series and sets the stage for spin-offs. I didn't know Magneto would be getting his own flick -- very excited about that. McKellen and Jackman were two of the best in their roles, so quality movies are very possible. A dour positive note: At least we don't have to endure Halle Berry as Storm anymore.

Malse
05-30-2006, 09:59 AM
That "What have I done?" line was the biggest pussing out of a bad old man ever, and my entire exposure to Xmen has been the movies and walking past young cousins watching the cartoon ten years ago. I did particularly like him totally five-uping all the tatooed wannabes with his own, too, that was quite likely the best deflation of modern superfluous self-mutilation in film history.

Fandros
05-30-2006, 10:09 AM
As a long long reader of Xmen ( tho I'm just returning after nearly a 10 year break ) I can safely say that Magneto was one seriously complex toon.

What have I done falls completely in line with his psyche. He was never a truly evil man , in his own eyes, but one that was willing to do anything to protect his own.

When Jean Grey started Phoenixing up and obviously leading to massive destruction of EVERYTHING ( his own mutant race included) Magneto realized he had erred. "What have I done" uttered by a depowered and therefore out of control Magneto was right in line with everything the character had ever stood for.

Granted if she was just whacking humans he'd have been right as rain walking away with a smile on his face.

Fandros

Thormir
05-30-2006, 10:09 AM
Yes, that (the tattoo bit) was one of the better written moments of the film, though I shudder to think how many viewers shook their heads in bewilderment at that scene.

EDIT: In the context of the ongoing comic series (which I also used to read avidly) I'd agree, Fandros, but in the context of the movies it fell flat. It was simply too quick a turn-around -- and took place before Grey really began to let loose as well. Though the maudlin "pre-crisis pep talk" given by Wolverine before they head to the final battle was painfully worse.

Fandros
05-30-2006, 10:09 AM
Ahhhh and if they follow the comicbook ( albiet with massive redirection of old old story lines) Xavier and Cyclops aren't dead. If I recall properly the Astral plane has a grundle of new inhabitants atm....or was it a pocket universe...errrr


Fandros

Thormir
05-30-2006, 10:14 AM
The post-credits scene has a little to say on that, tho' it doesn't really pave the way for a 4th film.

Kelraz Bladesinger
05-30-2006, 10:32 AM
Most of them don't want to do a 4th film. We're gonna see 4-5 spinoff films in the coming years, starting with the Wolverine and Magneto films in 2008.

Sixee
05-30-2006, 11:13 AM
A dour positive note: At least we don't have to endure Halle Berry as Storm anymore.

SACRILIDGE!!!!
The only other person I thought they could have better cast in that role was Grace Jones.
Alas I think she's getting a bit long in the tooth....

Nanora
05-30-2006, 11:31 AM
I've been itching to read some of the old comics again - but they don't re-release them like they do books, right? The only way to get copies of the very first comics is to rob some rich guy's vault?

Actually you could probably find non-mint condition books out there relatively cheap. The market for some of the books fell out about 7-10 years ago, though I've not kept a finger on the pulse of that beast for years. If you aren't going for the collection side of it, Marvel, DC and Darkhorse would put out a story line in a graphic novel that basically told a story which spanned 3-12 books in one binding. The more popular ones that I remember were about the death of Superman, breaking the Bat(man), and various large crossovers in the marvel universe. One of which was when the adamantium was ripped from Wolverine's body by Magneto. I have the books at home and can narrow it down for you if you like.

Also a many years ago I was able to read a book I didn't have, online. It was like they scanned it for viewing on the net. I don't know if it was a test or if it was going to become the standard, but this may be something to look at if you just want to catch up on a story line or 3.

Kelraz Bladesinger
05-30-2006, 11:44 AM
I have the dark phoenix graphical novel - its a great read. I guess I should look for more of those.

Thormir
05-30-2006, 11:48 AM
I started reading X-Men with 137, where Jean Grey kills herself. The preceding Dark Phoenix saga was cheap to pick up at the time and was a great storyline. Unfortunately, college era poverty ended my enjoyment of comics, and once I had a bank account again I found the storylines uncompelling...and occasionally idiotic. Never got back into it.

Cloudwalker21
05-30-2006, 01:10 PM
I would have liked more about the Juggernaut as well. Though his line to Shadowcat, "I'm the juggernaut bitch!" made me laugh.

Sixee
05-30-2006, 01:54 PM
Alas, Juggie wasn't a Mutant...
Another "Artistic License" part I wasn't too happy with.
Also Was Cain Marko Australian? Or did they just give him that accent cause all Australians are considered surly?

Akom of Cazic Thule
05-30-2006, 02:05 PM
My room mate, one of the biggest movie aficionados I know, and I were talking after we saw it and his comment on it being "left open" at the end was that if the movie made a LOT of money, they would virtually have to make a 4th.

Well, looking at the opening weekend (http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1198986_1_0_,00.html), I would see the temptation.

My biggest problem with it would be that they named this one "The Last Stand". Also, with a Wolverine movie in the works and the Magnito movie rumored, I don't know when they would make it.

IF they made a fourth full on X-Men movie, I would want to see a lot of new (yet familiar) characters. Gambit for instance. Oh, that reminds me... I heard a rumor that they asked Josh Holloway ("Lost" - Sawyer) to do a cameo as Gambit in X3, but he turned it down as the character was too close to his "Lost" character. I must say, he would have worked well in the role.

Fandros
05-30-2006, 02:36 PM
Cain aka the Juggernaut was/is Irish and is cousin to Banshee , a fiery redheaded mutant with Sonic screaming powers, of old Xmen fame. He is indeed a mutant who's latent power was released by the magical amulet Altho originally it was surmised that his entire power came from said amulet it was later revealed that he possessed his powers innately and this has been Marvel lore for more than 10 years. ;P

Also of side note Juggie was himself a step brother to Charles Xavier himself ;P

Fandros

Selwen Soulgazer
05-30-2006, 04:20 PM
I wish they would go with the Days of Future Past storyline( the graphic novel, not teh cheesey cartoon version). That is still my favorite X Men story line.

Sixee
05-31-2006, 08:29 AM
Cain aka the Juggernaut was/is Irish and is cousin to Banshee , a fiery redheaded mutant with Sonic screaming powers, of old Xmen fame. He is indeed a mutant who's latent power was released by the magical amulet Altho originally it was surmised that his entire power came from said amulet it was later revealed that he possessed his powers innately and this has been Marvel lore for more than 10 years. ;P

Also of side note Juggie was himself a step brother to Charles Xavier himself ;P

Fandros

I knew he was related to Xavier, but didn't know about the mutant part. I thought since his powers were related to that gem, that he was a mystical being, rather than a mutant.
LOL, then him ramming himself sensless after getting into Leech's Anti-mutant Field is more funny to me now.
They shoulda nixed the Australian accent, though.

Comic Book Geeks FTW!!!!

Cloudwalker21
05-31-2006, 09:16 AM
Yeah, when he got denied by the brick wall, I laughed.

Anterak
05-31-2006, 09:23 AM
Captain Obvious wrote the script, but apart from that it was a good time at the theater.

And I would have love to see how they did catch Jugg, a comics fan friend (Muaziz if some remembers her) told me that in the series only Thor managed to "stop" him once, using his father's power or something...

Fandros
05-31-2006, 10:27 AM
The line where Juggie said he didn't do water is a clue to how he's was stopped many times over.

He sinks like a stone heh

Fandros

shanno
05-31-2006, 10:39 AM
Well.. for the old time comic book geeks, Juggernaut has been stopped physically a few times.. but only for a while. Spiderman sunk him in concrete.. took months to dig himself out. And long time ago, the Hulk threw his ass thru a mountain, and that knocked him for a loop, but other then that, mostly he is stopped via psyche or sound type attacks.

Fandros
05-31-2006, 10:41 AM
Aye, fav Xmen stunt was to port Nightcrawler on his noggin....he grab the helmet and then port away leaving him open to Jean, Xavier, Psylocke or other mind freaks. Think Wolverine once cut the helmet off with his claws....and hmmm Colossus chucked him into a bay once.

Yee gods....yes Sixee I'm an age old geek...

Fandros

shanno
05-31-2006, 10:42 AM
Cain aka the Juggernaut was/is Irish and is cousin to Banshee , a fiery redheaded mutant with Sonic screaming powers, of old Xmen fame. He is indeed a mutant who's latent power was released by the magical amulet Altho originally it was surmised that his entire power came from said amulet it was later revealed that he possessed his powers innately and this has been Marvel lore for more than 10 years. ;P

Also of side note Juggie was himself a step brother to Charles Xavier himself ;P

Fandros


Correct me if I am wrong.. but I believe that the cousin of Banshee is actually Black Tom Cassidy.. who was Juggies best friend. Ya.. I am a geek

Sixee
05-31-2006, 11:27 AM
Yeah, Black Tom Cassidy was Irish, and Juggie's Friend.
I've always been fascinated with Juggernaut, and I loved it when he was in the X-men Vs Street fighter game.
It was always a good time to watch the faces of the guys that loved to throw Ken and Ryu Hado-Ken fireballs from a distance, when I unleashed Juggie's unstoppable Juggernaut Crush.
It would go thru the fireballs, and he'd keep on trukin knocking anywhere from half to 3/4 of their life bars down when he hit.
Add in Wolverine as a partner and I had an almost unbeatable team.

Revellie
05-31-2006, 11:46 AM
You are correct, Black Tom Cassidy is brother of Sean Cassidy ( the Banshee) and Seans daughter is Syrin ( the sonic screamer from X2). Juggernaught is Black toms friend and Partner in Crime. Also Jugs has been stopped by none other than Pheonix in the comics, she just picked him up with her TK and throw him away, and I mean away. otherwise as some else pointed out its usually the take out the bucket on his head and Telepath is butt to the ground.


Rev.

yes I collected Xmen ET ALL for a number of years.

Fandros
05-31-2006, 12:37 PM
Auch me wee bairns I stand corrected. Twas naught other than Black Tom that pitted himself against his own cousin Sean Cassidy and indeed Juggie twas his friend.

LoL Thanks, been so long that facts becomes skewed.

Fandros

Thormir
05-31-2006, 12:48 PM
A rather amusing interview (http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/31/film.qa.xwomen.ap/index.html) with some of the ladies from the film. I do have to sympathize with Anna Paquin; her role in the films never amounted to much more than "Being a mutant can suck, too."

shanno
05-31-2006, 01:59 PM
Actually the one thing about the movies that always pissed me off was how they took MAIN characters and really changed them. Ok.. I can see a few, but Bobby Drake was one of the original X-man... he was not a teen-age kid that was a student while Storm was a member. Same with Rogue.. but at least they did a ok job making her the victim in the first movie. I think the only characters that they tried to keep on track were Wolverine, Cyclops, Xavier, and Magneto. Jean was on track until they butchered the Phoenix saga.

Cloudwalker21
05-31-2006, 02:39 PM
I really wish Rogue would have actually had her powers of flight + super strength. Though I don't think she got them until Mystique tricked her into absorbing them from someone else permanently. In this she just a victim pretty much the entire time. And yeah, if they make more movies, Halle Berry is not my choice for Storm. Wah wah I don't get to do lots of crazy awesome stuff! Anna Paquin is the only one that can really use that arguement.

shanno
05-31-2006, 02:45 PM
Right.. Rogue absorbed Ms Marvels powers, and sought out the help of Xavier to help her control her powers..

Thormir
05-31-2006, 02:46 PM
Rogue stole her powers from Ms. Marvel (who later became Binary Star). I don't know that she was tricked into it exactly; Rogue was with the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants in her early going.

Cloudwalker21
05-31-2006, 02:48 PM
Since they're already butchering character and plot lines in these movies, in a hypothetical fourth movie the story for Rogue should look like this: As she regains her power from the cure wearing off, she somehow gets the powers of flight + super strength. It can't be any worse than the other shreds they've done on some of the other characters.

Thormir
05-31-2006, 02:59 PM
She absorbs Bobby's powers, becoming completely frigid.

Kelraz Bladesinger
05-31-2006, 03:25 PM
Kelsey Grammer as Beast ... was awesome. The rest of the characters pale in comparison :)

Nanora
05-31-2006, 03:34 PM
She absorbs Bobby's powers, becoming completely frigid.

How would she do that, unless she makes 'contact'. :D

Fandros
05-31-2006, 03:40 PM
Ach!!! That explains what happened to my exwife Thor!!!


Fandros

Esbat
05-31-2006, 04:46 PM
The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants is, in my opinon, a name that personifies high camp in comic books. I bet they chose the name just so they could write it in a creepy font while doing a weird, evil eyed headshot.

Magneto thought he was right; if anything, he'd call the X-Men the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants.

Fandros
05-31-2006, 04:56 PM
Magneto , father of Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, chose the name because he felt if the hoooomans were going to picture him as evil he'd give them just cause and select a title that suited them.

At one time, in the comic continium, Magneto stepped in and led the Xmen for awhile tho his methods were always more akin to his vision than Xaviers.

Fandros

Sixee
06-01-2006, 07:23 AM
Yeah, but the X-men really kicked butt when Maggie was in charge.
I think Wolverine even got to slice and dice a few people w/o Maggie gettin all uppity on him like Xavier would.