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Kelraz Bladesinger
05-02-2009, 12:27 AM
So the Wolverine movie got my girlfriend to read my Dark Phoenix Saga graphic novel and finish it in a day wanting more.
Buying every comic is probably out of my budget, so is there any good series to buy and get a good sense of the story lines, or any good animated series to get on amazon?
Greystone Thorngage
05-02-2009, 01:00 PM
The problem sir lies in about 2002ish Marvel re-invented the X-Men. For exampl the most powerful psionic in the world next to Prff X, got turned into a chick who can turn her skin into diamond hard material.
The misc. cartoon series, take some liberty on the stories and characters but i wouldnt say there is a bad one. The original X-Men cartoon is really good and sticks the most closely to actual Marvel story-arc.
The best stuff atm is the cross book stuff, i would get Civil War graphic novel (barring teh very very end) was a REALLY good story.
Kelraz Bladesinger
05-02-2009, 11:03 PM
White Witch?
She's the one who messed up Jean and let the Phoenix loose, right?
Fandros
05-03-2009, 01:50 AM
White Queen I think he means aka Emma Frost. She's still a very powerful telepath but has developed the secondary mutation of a Diamond skin.
Nydia Ywalmoriel
05-03-2009, 03:04 AM
/geek on) Emma Frost, aka the White Queen of the Hellfire Club in the old X-Men days, is *not* Phoenix/Jean Grey :). She was, along with Sebastian Shaw and Mastermind, responsible for Phoenix's transformation into Dark Phoenix, however, and was one of my favorite characters in those days. I was an avid reader of the X-men series (have originals from the early 130s to around #200 or so) in the '80s, but didn't care for the direction the series took after Chris Claremont left nor for the late '90s major makeover the characters got which made them look like something out of teenage anime (and Frost got a particularly unconvincing makeover).
If you're looking for a particularly good run in the series to collect, I recommend the late '80s post Cyclops/Phoenix years (where they've largely disappeared from the comic, and eventually form X-Factor) where Claremont does very touching, and very adult for the era, work largely featuring Wolverine and Storm and their life histories are fleshed out in detail. As for the film renditions of same, while Hugh Jackman 'feels' like Wolverine, I've always felt that Halle Berry was too bloodless to make a good Storm and they'd have been better off with someone... earthier :).
Regards,
Nydia
Greystone Thorngage
05-03-2009, 07:24 AM
Halle Berry was too short also!
Chanur
05-03-2009, 11:23 AM
I am not a big comic person, but I got into the House of M and World War Hulk. He is my favorite super hero by far ( i get all hot and nerdy for him). When he pretty much took over the world it was glorious.
Haloface
05-03-2009, 11:45 AM
I hate Halle Berry. She's so annoying.
Kelraz Bladesinger
05-03-2009, 02:35 PM
You are right, I meant the White Queen. I think the most recent movie split her powers into 2 characters Emma and her sister who Wolverine fell in love with. So she becomes an X-Men despite her leading to Jean dying? Weird.
Oipunx the High Elf Cleri
05-05-2009, 01:58 PM
The Stryfe versus X-men is like a 10 part comic series and pretty fucking awesome. I remember reading it when I was like 9 and being totally blown away.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Cutioner%27s_Song
If you're looking for a particularly good run in the series to collect, I recommend the late '80s post Cyclops/Phoenix years (where they've largely disappeared from the comic, and eventually form X-Factor) where Claremont does very touching, and very adult for the era, work largely featuring Wolverine and Storm and their life histories are fleshed out in detail. As for the film renditions of same, while Hugh Jackman 'feels' like Wolverine, I've always felt that Halle Berry was too bloodless to make a good Storm and they'd have been better off with someone... earthier :).
Regards,
Nydia
Cable and X-Factor 4tw
Oipunx the High Elf Cleri
05-05-2009, 01:59 PM
Also the Spiderman versus Carnage 10-part series is fucking sick too. However, the Stryfe battles were better imo!
fildien
05-05-2009, 02:04 PM
/OT
It's so refreshing to find a thread like this that reminds us no matter how differing our opinions are...we're still geeks on the inside.
/OT off :)
Kelraz Bladesinger
05-05-2009, 02:49 PM
I got a bootleg copy of every Xmen Animated Series since Fox hasn't yet released them. Shitty quality, but good show
Sixee
05-05-2009, 05:56 PM
Alpha Flight was a pretty good series, as was The New Mutants. The character, Warlock fascinated me.
You might also try reading The Secret Wars. While a little hokey by today's standards, it set the stage for mini-series in comic books. The Infinity Gauntlet is another good mini-series to read, and has better artwork.
Recently, World War Hulk had my attention. I've always had a soft spot in my heart for the big, green brute.
Oipunx the High Elf Cleri
05-05-2009, 07:09 PM
Alpha Flight was a pretty good series,.
lol :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Crystana65
05-07-2009, 10:37 PM
At last count before i stopped collecting, i had about 10k comics. :p
I have the entire x-factor run and a good portion of the x-men series from about 100 on. Plus a great selection of hulk's, ect.
I just wish they hadn't thrown away the Jean grey/phoenix character in the 3rd x-men movie tho. It cheapened a great character that was only beginning to be fleshed out in the 2nd movie.
I did like the age of apocalypse tho. Was fairly well thought out imo.
Selwen Soulgazer
05-08-2009, 02:10 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/fireslayer1672/Mra2.jpg
I used to have this on a t shirt I made in art class.Really showing my age there *cough*
Anyhoo, Days of Futures Past was my favorite X graphic novel.
Nydia Ywalmoriel
05-08-2009, 02:05 PM
Hah, I remember that 'ad', and Selwen, I think you just won the thread ;) - the Days of Future Past (which was Kitty Pryde's first real standout adventure) came out at the start of when I was regularly reading the comic (and was a big part of what got me hooked), but The Fall of the Mutants (from which that ad comes) was my personal favorite, or rather the storylines immediately leading up to it were...
I collected Alpha Flight (and New Mutants) when those runs started, the writers never seemed to know what to do with either one of those series though and they just kind of ran out of steam - Alpha Flight was one of the biggest soap operas I've ever seen ;). They also had a *lot* of spinoff stories in those days, including the Rachel Summers stint as Phoenix (of Excaliber), Colossus' little sister Illyana (whose hero name, if she had any, I can't remember), X-Factor - and then for a while there were 'X-Men' *and* "uncanny X-Men" being issued simultaneously, all of which had to be retooled when they had the major writer lineup change in the early '90s... and good grief, how many alternate timeline kids *did* Cyclops and/or Jean Grey *have*, anyway? ;)
That whole major cultural shift pretty much turned me off the comic but I suppose I should start surveying them again myself and see if any of the newer material is worth reading. I think what's interesting about the X-Men line back in that time period is that it was right *before* the independent comic/graphic novel genre started taking off and so you had writers trying to push the envelope within the confines of the major comic publishers...
/geek off, I'm late for work, but I'd take one of those t-shirts ;)
Regards,
Nydia
Oipunx the High Elf Cleri
05-08-2009, 03:17 PM
wtf Alpha Flight were a bunch of loser Canadians. i was in Elementary school reading this shit and could understand that.
/disappointment :mad:
Bylimet Spiritwalker
05-08-2009, 05:26 PM
/sigh
To date myself, I recall when they would put out what they called an "Annual" edition, once a year, that was 3-4 times as thick as the normal comic (talking your generic Superman, Justice League folks) and we had to pony up a whole 50 cents for that monster issue. :p
Selwen Soulgazer
05-08-2009, 05:48 PM
The thing that got me about Days was the kid hanging from the swingset with the "mutie" sign hanging around his neck. That was very dark for that time.
Sixee
05-15-2009, 09:51 AM
Colossus' little sister Illyana (whose hero name, if she had any, I can't remember)
Why, Illyana's hero name was Magick! Heh, does that make me the Alpha Comic Geek? I didn't even have to use Google for that one....
Nydia Ywalmoriel
05-16-2009, 03:08 AM
You know the worst part of that is I think I *have* that 6-issue miniseries ;)... it's been a long time since I cracked that box open though, I guess I know where to go the next time I'm hard up for some timewasting fodder :)...
Regards,
Nydia
Greystone Thorngage
05-16-2009, 04:48 PM
Why, Illyana's hero name was Magick! Heh, does that make me the Alpha Comic Geek? I didn't even have to use Google for that one....
Only if you knew that Peter killed himself to save Illyana from the techo-virus, because Moira MacTaggert said the only way the cure would work is if it processed through a mutant and then she could extract the antibodies. Then Kitty Pride who was in love with Peter retires fromt he xmen to live a normal life and go to college.
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