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JazyaVechette
11-26-2003, 12:45 AM
Seems every time I chat with a friend in /say or hit a few emote keys these days, some whiny little bitch in the vicinity (who I'm not even talking to, could care less if they're even there) starts giving me shit about the volume and/or content of my text output.

You have become better at becoming irritated over pointless bullshit! (252)

It's not so much that I care about them being annoyed or them spouting off back at me as it's a waste of my fucking time dealing with these people. OH MY GOD I said "cock" now I have to put up with your crying for 25mins about how you let your 7 year old daughter watch you play EQ and that's somehow *MY* problem?

More times than not it's painfully obvious that shit-for-brains who files grievance is just some angsty adolescent punkass, bitter over the fact that his current 'girl project' isnt putting out. Yay, lucky me that I was chosen to be the outlet for your frustration! Done? Cool... now kindly, FUCK OFF AND GROW UP.

YOU make the decision to get annoyed. YOU make the decision to make a big deal about it. YOU make the decision to act about it. YOU make the decision to waste BOTH of our time about this nonsense.

Grow some fucking skin and quit giving ME shit about YOUR inability to deal with my "lesser mind's ability to maturely express myself" whatever the fuck that is.

Dartaignon
11-26-2003, 12:52 AM
Whiney bitches do indeed suck!

Palimax Sceleris
11-26-2003, 01:03 AM
This is the "it offends me that people are offended by me" post right? Awesome!

MarzMartini
11-26-2003, 01:55 AM
www.adultfriendfinder.com

RolielKotN
11-26-2003, 02:12 AM
I've seen hate crimes that were more objective.

Lleauric
11-26-2003, 02:50 AM
Who the fuck is this annoying bitch?

Nydia Ywalmoriel
11-26-2003, 03:25 AM
Jazya is... Jazya :) . And about 15 alts, about 75% female... :)

I group with Jazya a fair amount and let's just say that there's nights where she's 'on' as far as the cutting up and/or emotes go. She also has a special friend at the moment, and if you don't much care for PDA (that's public displays of affection), you may feel the need to restrain yourself from screaming 'Get a room!' every so often. Other than that I find her pretty pleasant to be around most of the time, as long as I can keep her hyper butt, erm, daggers, to the DPS grindstone... ;)

Regards,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Autonomous Collective

Xyln
11-26-2003, 04:14 AM
Holy shit,she is the poster child for liberals.


Don't express your freedom of speech rights while im expressing mine!

Do you not see the irony in your post?

No wonder people tell you to STFU

zenrkscallytail
11-26-2003, 05:28 AM
bitching about bitching

you are my hero !

Shewdogg
11-26-2003, 06:04 AM
Start using racial slurs, it's such a better reaction.

ThePerfectFlaw
11-26-2003, 06:15 AM
Talk about a turn-around owning. hahaha.

Xanaron
11-26-2003, 08:17 AM
Grow some fucking skin and quit giving ME shit about YOUR inability to deal with my "lesser mind's ability to maturely express myself" whatever the fuck that is.

Maybe if you didn't swear as much, people wouldn't ask you to not use that kinda language as much.

it's like fucking _science_ I tell you.

KMA1234
11-26-2003, 10:09 AM
fuck you people and your stupid fucking emotes. nobody gives a shit if you wanna suck yer online boyfriends cock in public or execute a flurry of fuckin hugs on some other idiot but when it makes me have to scroll up to read my cyber tells you're gonna get fucked with.

Hubbe
11-26-2003, 11:35 AM
Who the fuck is this annoying bitch?

Jayza is teh pwn, () ring rep.

I agree tho, i mean.. you have to be what? 13? to play, its not like there is a 13 year old that does not know them big nasty words. I mean.. most 7 year olds know them =P

Hubbe
11-26-2003, 11:38 AM
posted to soon, what i ment to conclude with is that its not really a matter of people being to young when exposed to said language.. its people being to.. prude (? not sure if this is the word im looking for =P ), but then again, i myself never cuss in public channels to any extent =P


Even tho some turd make me want to do so.. damn SoE begging bitches!

Spekter
11-26-2003, 12:56 PM
hmmm, interesting topic area.

Now I greet friends with hugs and my fiancee a bit more personally, but with taste. Some of my casting emotes can even draw the line. However I do keep certain things and areas to guildchat, groupchat or telly.

Anytime something verges on cyber or strong personal or more private referances, open says is really not the place for it. IMO, neither is racial slurs unless in an rp direction tuned to EQ enviroment.

It's not being a prude, it's being polite.

More annoying is when crap is spammed across my screen. Hey it's cute you greet your friends and lover(s). But to see 10 times or more scrolling my screen " Sweetpanties frenches Boytoy while groping his crotch." over and over, well yeh that's overkill. It's also unimaginative.

As for cussing, well sorry there's a word filter one can use. So if little Billy or Suzy is watching then turn it on, don't go bitching.

Heck my 12 year old plays EQ, I know what he sees, but it doesn't phase him. He hears a lot worse at school. It's nothing, why last year he came home, sat down and asked me what Masterbation meant. I took it calm, a rare thing for a single mom and explained it to him. He asked if it was a bad thing, and I said no, it's a private thing. (Ok, maybe not if your kinky) But silly mom didn't tell him not to go explaining to his friends, which he did the next day at school lunch which got me a phonecall. His teacher was totally freaked, especially when she told him to quit and he raised his voice saying, "Why? My mom said it wasn't a bad thing."

Maylen
11-26-2003, 02:55 PM
I don't really get this...maybe it's just me, but are you bitching about people telling you to stfu because your spamming emotes? /boggle





Maylen Bojangles

Hubbe
11-26-2003, 03:10 PM
no i read the complaint as it being about her using some cuss words in public channels (by public i mean /say not a zone wide channel) and getting shit for doing so.

Jensae1
11-26-2003, 03:42 PM
Hmm... did sony get rid of the bad word filter and not tell us?

(/rhetorical question off)

Mukaz
11-26-2003, 03:46 PM
did sony get rid of the bad word filter and not tell us?

No they didn't but they also said that the existance of the bad word filter doesn't give anyone license to spam profanities in public channels.

Its not a rhetorical question at all, its a matter of policy.

Brellin
11-26-2003, 04:42 PM
Just because filters are in place does not give you or anyone else for that matter the right to spam profanity or other graphic text over "public" channels. And there is no 13 year old cut off, younger children can play with the permission of thier parents or legal guardian. And the thing is in my opinion its not the profanity that children don't know, its WHAT they mean that they don't know, and some decidedly graphic text which you sometimes (to my understanding) use Jayza is most definatly not meant for young children to see.

Maylen
11-26-2003, 05:15 PM
If you want to swear and what not, than you can do it. That is indeed why the profanity filter is there. Don't wanna hear it, turn it off. If parents don't want their kids to see it then they shouldn't be playing the game...but to get angry at people for telling you to the shut fuck up because you've been talking to someone in /say for the past half hour is ridiculous. They have the /tell for a reason. So unless you enjoy being told to stfu, then just take it to tells like it's supposed to be. It's not unreasonable at all.


Maylen Bojangles

JazyaVechette
11-26-2003, 05:17 PM
Well, I usually don't curse quite as much as my initial post. I deliberately went over-the-top for the 'rant-style' flavor in that situation.

Since some of you lack basic reading comprehension I'll reinforce the following point:

I were getting offended by "little" stuff, yeah I'd be the stereotypical ranting hypocrite so many of you are so easy to label me as. But it's more than that. I'm WAY beyond comments like "get a room" or "stop spamming" even "Fuck off and die you (insert expletive here) whore!"

It's getting 'near-harassment' volumes of tells from people about how they're going to report me (though I've never had a Guide/GM contact me re: my language) how people like me are what's wrong with this game and this kind of stuff continuing for HALF AN HOUR AFTER I've already ceased said discussion and left the zone.

Now yes, there have been a few cases where I said something that bypassed filters, of similar nature to what Spekter said, even multiple lines but we're not talking shift+up stuff (when I draw these comments it's usually 3 particular macro keys that I use in sequence) but most of the time it's people like KMA1234 or angsty teenage punkasses who are simply looking for a fight.

I suppose my whole "/ignore is a cop-out" mentality doesn't help much here either, though it'd certainly help ease the aggression of the offended if their spamming me didn't cause a few cyber mistells while they're already venting =/

mirdorr
11-26-2003, 05:17 PM
I've tried to explain this to my fiance a few times, and she's too nice a person to get it.

Here's the deal: The vast majority of people out there are idiots.

Sure, you may know 100 people who are cool, but they're only a tiny percentage of the population.

This applies even moreso to EQ.

Maylen
11-26-2003, 05:31 PM
I think you either:

A) Are blatantly lying
or
B) Are leaving a lot out


No one harasses you for half an hour if you're just making little comments in /say or with emotes...your obviously either doing a shit load more than that because unless it was really fucking annoying, no one would say anything. Maybe you should just stop?

mirdorr
11-26-2003, 05:33 PM
No one harasses you for half an hour if you're just making little comments in /say or with emotes

What game are you playing? I've had people bother me for a freaking hour because I simply ran by their camp while I was otm somewhere else. No aggro, no nothing. I just ran by.

ThePerfectFlaw
11-26-2003, 06:00 PM
I just wish society would move past the whole 'naughty words' and PC thing. It shouldn't be about how you say something, but what you're saying.

Xyln
11-26-2003, 06:06 PM
If you want to swear and what not, than you can do it. That is indeed why the profanity filter is there. Don't wanna hear it, turn it off.

This has to be the stupidest thing i have ever read.

So when i log on,and my kids are watching,i have to scramble around to make sure all filters are on so i can accomodate some 13 year olds that want to fuck each other with words anywhere they please?


Also,have you seen the way some of these idiots spell?

99% of what they type is mispelled and would probably bypass any filters.


Some of his shit borders on pornography,and this isnt the forum for it.

I would post some links for you if you just wanna fuck some words or jackoff onto your screen,but im not sure the mods would approve,but if you just type in "FUCK" in google im sure a bunch of pussies and dicks would come up.

Then just whip it out spew all over your screen,then log into EQ and have fun.

/SIGH!

mirdorr
11-26-2003, 06:18 PM
I assume you don't turn on the porn channel on TV when your kids are in the room. Or watch the Martin Lawrence comedy special on HBO when they're in the room.

So yeah, you should do the right thing as a parent and watch your screen.

Just send the kids back to the living room to play Grand Theft Auto on the console.

almadar01
11-26-2003, 06:23 PM
If 13 years old in your neighborhood doesnt know the word *fuck* yet its sad. Im not english but i pretty much learned all the *bad french words* at school before 8.

bad language shouldnt really offend anyone, but if you spammed cyber-losers emotes just by me for half an hour, you could be sure id annoy you for hours after.

Impresario Almadar Tegleftyln
Retired

Nydia Ywalmoriel
11-26-2003, 07:21 PM
Jazya spammed the multiline emote chain that stirred up this thread to me last night in Nexus and while it didn't contain any profane words... I'd put it in the category of (borderline) pornography. All that stuff needs is a bad 70's soundtrack to go with it ;) .

I'm a pretty open-minded person, as well as a friend of Jazya's, and it made me distinctly uncomfortable. The irony is that if a kid saw the emote string it probably wouldn't leave any impression on them, but if I was a parent of a child playing EQ and saw that I think that I, too, would hit the ceiling...

I can appreciate that people are, erm, enthusiastic to see each other, but such things are best confined to moments when one has privacy, or at least when one can be sure that one's audience will not object, imho.

Sincerely,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Autonomous Collective

CaeanthePaladin
11-26-2003, 07:34 PM
In general, I care less about the content and more about the spam.

Only thing worse than emote-addicts are people who can't go 30 seconds without doing a /ran

Kein Bojangles
11-26-2003, 07:43 PM
So when i log on,and my kids are watching,i have to scramble around to make sure all filters are on so i can accomodate some 13 year olds that want to fuck each other with words anywhere they please?

Yes.

This game has a teen rating. If you play it and/or let your kids play/watch it, you are going to see material that is suitable for teens in quite a few places. Don't like it? Go play ToonTown, and kill some cogs.

Teen rating=Teen content. Teenagers swear. A fucking lot.

An excellent solution to this problem is to not let your kids watch, especially in bazaar, where I'll probably be swearing a the scammer-of-the-day.

Siludorf
11-26-2003, 07:59 PM
LOL if brel thinks you're offensive then you're too offensive..

If you run by a camp no aggro nothing and someone leaves their camp to bug you for an hour because you ran by their camp ...

sirsamanusuke
11-26-2003, 08:29 PM
I've had people do the same thing to me in Kael. I ran by someone's camp and he started flaming me in tells, which I ignored, and moved, on then I saw a train 5 minutes later. People are idiots in eq. As a parent, it's your duty to at least recognize the type of community eq is. It's a wasteland half full of teenagers with the mentality that they are invincible behind their monitor, therefore, they will do what they want and when they want. It's the whole, "Im being rebellious because I hate my parents" thing.

You may not like the things you see here on ayone, and I understand that. As rampant as this type of behavior is on this server and others, however, should hint you off to what kind of things you are exposing your kids to. If profanity is such a problem to what you believe to be your kids' sheltered lives, don't let them play. It's out there, there's a lot of immature people that play. Going on an anti-profanity crusade isn't going to get you anything except an extra "Fuck you" from these people.

Xyln
11-26-2003, 08:40 PM
I assume you don't turn on the porn channel on TV when your kids are in the room. Or watch the Martin Lawrence comedy special on HBO when they're in the room.


Well this isn't porn and it isnt Martin Lawrence you dolt. This is Everquest,an MMORPG,not the porn channel.You think everything with a teen rating is because they are fuckin each other in the street?

No!They also put ratings up for the benefit of not having a 5 year old in your group that doesnt understand things.


Teen rating=Teen content. Teenagers swear. A fucking lot.



so when they put ages 6-7 on my kids learning software that means they will have porn and swearing that a seven year old can understand? and not someone that's 5?

You're just as dense as your friend up there.The teen rating is for the GAME CONTENT not becuase they expect fuckin idiots to be "cybering" in open channels.

The rating is intended for the benefit of making sure when you play the game you have a grasp of concept of what you're supposed to be doing.


So a mom doesnt go out an buy everquest for their 4 year old.Not ot mention the amount of violence that everquest has.

Porn has a place ,and an open channel in a GAME is not it.

Now,if you wanna say GOD DAMN FUCKIN DRAGON!Im sick of it.I have no prblem with that,but the porn is just out of place.

Xyln
11-26-2003, 09:02 PM
TEEN
Titles rated T - Teen have content that may be suitable for persons ages 13 and older. May contain violent content, mild or strong language, and/or suggestive themes.


Suggestive Themes - Mild provocative references or materials



Like i said,i can deal wih the occasional rant about some fucktard that just got you killed and you lost your level,but to cyber like some dog in heat IN AN OPEN CHANNEL ,especially when there are a hundred other avenues you can use,is going too far.

Kein Bojangles
11-26-2003, 09:04 PM
Where are people cybering in open channels? What the *fuck* are you talking about?

Swearing=/ pornography.

Thanks though.

And 6-7 year olds don't usually swear or watch porn, so it wouldn't be expected in a game rated for that age. In a teenager rated game, espesially an online one, where you will be INTERACTING WITH THESE TEENAGERS, expect to see innapropriate material.

That's all there is to it. If you want to let your 5 year old sit there and watch it, it's your business, but don't expect people to take you seriously when you tell them to stop acting like teenagers in a teen rated game.

Kein Bojangles
11-26-2003, 09:09 PM
but to cyber like some dog in heat IN AN OPEN CHANNEL

In 5 years of playing, and playing often, I have never once seen anything in an open channel that could even come close to bordering on this. Maybe you have, but I'm willing to bet you're just making it up trying to prove a point, which would make the point moot.

Grift3r
11-26-2003, 09:14 PM
A boy and his father go to a ice cream parlor every Sunday. They have made it a routine for as long as the little lad can remember. One day, there is a couple in the corner, each with their hand down the other one's pants. The father, appalled, quickly covers up his sons eyes and leaves the parlor.

The next Sunday they go back to the same parlor only to see the same thing happen. The owner has warned the couple but can only do so much to stop it. Soon, the place attracts more couples like the first and the father. . . .

a. Stops bringing the child -OR-
b. Complains that an ice cream parlor is no such place for that activity and refuses to stop bringing his son based upon the notion that it is everyone else's responsibility to protect his son from said behavior.

You may or may not like what some people do online but it is NOT their job to protect anyone's kids from seeing what they do. It's that simple.

Sony may not condone it, you obviously don't condone it, and many on the board here do not condone it. If a game has a "history" of this behavior it is YOUR decision on whether or not to allow your children to view it, not the other way around.

Dartaignon
11-26-2003, 09:30 PM
So when i log on,and my kids are watching,i have to scramble around to make sure all filters are on so i can accomodate some 13 year olds that want to fuck each other with words anywhere they please?


Yes, all the masses should change the way they talk to accomodate the needs of a few oversensitive bitches who don't understand that fuck is a powerful word, and regardless of how much you bitch, won't be used any less in today's society.

BING - Dartaignon you have been fined 1 credit for violating the verbal morality code.

JazyaVechette
11-26-2003, 09:40 PM
Dart, will u explain to me how to use the seashells?

In emotes plz =)

Xyln
11-26-2003, 10:29 PM
In 5 years of playing, and playing often, I have never once seen anything in an open channel that could even come close to bordering on this. Maybe you have, but I'm willing to bet you're just making it up trying to prove a point, which would make the point moot.

Did you read the thread?CAN you read the thread?



Seems every time I chat with a friend in /say or hit a few emote keys these days, some whiny little bitch in the vicinity (who I'm not even talking to, could care less if they're even there) starts giving me shit about the volume and/or content of my text output.


First fuckin sentence


Grow some fucking skin and quit giving ME shit about YOUR inability to deal with my "lesser mind's ability to maturely express myself" whatever the fuck that is.


Last sentence of first paragraph.

Am i just seeing things,or is this peson asking that I please give her the right to (this is my favorite) MATURELY(LOL) express herself(probably a 50 year old man with issues) whatever the fuck that may be
?




Look,i have a bigger porn collection than anyone you can think of,i like sex,porn,filthy nasty ass sex more than all of you combined,but if you come into my front yard and climb my fucking tree and fuck a cat,and tell me to just close my curtians because you have a right to express yourself,ima come out there and drag you around by your dick till your new name is nancy.


there are places for that kinda shit,and an open channel in a GAME is not the place.

Now,if i said ALL cybering is bad even in pm's or make your own private fuck channel ,i dont care,but find the APPROPRIATE place for it.



BTW,yes i have seen emotes takin WAY WAY too far on more than one occasion.

Xyln
11-26-2003, 10:33 PM
Now,if i said ALL cybering is bad even in pm's or make your own private fuck channel ,i dont care,but find the APPROPRIATE place for it.


ERR no idea what happened to this sentence.

Now,if i said all cybering is bad,even pms and private chat channels,then YES call me prude(sp?) over sensitive,a fucktard,or whatever,but in no way am i saying this "person" cant express itself,just find the appropriate place for it.:rolleyes

Dartaignon
11-26-2003, 10:34 PM
But if you had YOUR bad word filter on, instead of having it on, in fear you will miss something, it would be a non issue.

It does a pretty good job of cleaning up text, hell it still says Stonegazer *^$*&atrice in say when you say Stonegazer cockatrice.

People keep it off, because they want something to bitch about.

Xyln
11-26-2003, 10:49 PM
People keep it off, because they want something to bitch about.


LOL,yeah,thats it.You have a lot of growing up to do.

People have morals,and some snot nose punk that thinks they can compromise my morals by demeaning them and making fun of them and calling me "over sensetive" it obviously still a teenager.

You see,when you get real big ,like daddy,you'll understand that name calling and peer pressure don't have the same effect on us grown ups as they do on your little friends.


It's wrong,no matter how many little cute names or phrases you can come up with to demean it,it's wrong.

Xyln
11-26-2003, 10:52 PM
GRR too soon,

And as an adult WITH morals,i have an obligations to uphold them.


BTW,i dont turn my filter off because i LOVE to curse a fuckin dragons and fucking gnolls and fucking cocktrices as much as anyone,but not in an open channel.

Nydia Ywalmoriel
11-26-2003, 11:25 PM
My profanity filter has been on from day one, not because I have an issue with cursing (ask my poor guild ;) ), but because it's somehow more... colorful when you have to guess what's coming out of someone's mouth along with the flames ;) .

However, a profanity filter would have been in no use in this case, as none of the 'seven dirty words' (plus how many other words Sony has filters for) were used in the making of Jazya's porno spams. I first saw the spams two nights before the thread arose here and told her to get a room ;) . They went well beyond the usual adolescent 'hugs and kisses and spanks' spam that one frequently sees and while I like porn as much as the next gal in an appropriate setting, I thought that spamming such in a public area where people had no choice but to view it was in really poor taste.

I don't have anything against cyber, but have some consideration for folks who don't want to see heavy petting in the streets, please... I'm sure it would be just as hot in tells.

Regards,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Autonomous Collective

Nydia Ywalmoriel
11-26-2003, 11:29 PM
Oh, what is that that quote, 'No-one cares what you do as long as you don't do it out in the streets and frighten the horses?'

I'll have to look it up.

-Nydia

JazyaVechette
11-26-2003, 11:36 PM
Am i just seeing things,or is this peson asking that I please give her the right to (this is my favorite) MATURELY(LOL) express herself(probably a 50 year old man with issues) whatever the fuck that may be?If I'm talking to a friend and someone asks me to take it to tells, I'll take it to tells.

If I toss a cyber emote or 5 at a friend and random_person01 tells me to get a room, I'll usually knock it off.

In the above 2 situations I wouldn't hold it against the person for asking me to do so.

Problem is there's always that PC "idiot" looking for a fight. I guess I just make an easy target. Call me frustrated, it's simply getting old.

GreasyPig
11-26-2003, 11:37 PM
I thought that spamming such in a public area where people had no choice but to view it was in really poor taste.

Hey guys, like my name? Do i fit in?
Oh, back on subject, can you not diabled /emote ?
It seems that your respective game would have less realized sexual frustration in your arguments if you just disabled all the "public" text and just focus on /g /t /gu /rs.. etc...
If im wrong about disabling /emote, you can go ahead and think up some lame suggestion for me that might inspire some LoL type responses from your virtual cronies, but its all good either way.

GreasyPig
11-26-2003, 11:39 PM
oh look, i failed to use the "quote" correctly and there are multiple grammatical errors to hack upon.

JazyaVechette
11-26-2003, 11:44 PM
I thought that spamming such in a public area where people had no choice but to view it was in really poor taste.
...
They went well beyond the usual adolescent 'hugs and kisses and spanks' spam that one frequently seesAnd your response was to the effect of "get a room" which I have no problem with you saying.

Some people mind it, other's don't. Actually I've had more comments like 'OoOoOoOoo, I gotta stay for the end of this! /e starts typing one-handed' than the 20-tell scoldings that beg me to ask them if they're done yet...

Taino
11-27-2003, 12:09 AM
I think Jazya rocks and her initial post was not only right in a lot of aspects, but also damn funny :D
There, I said it!

JazyaVechette
11-27-2003, 12:11 AM
But it'd be so much more to flame me, wouldn't it?

Nydia Ywalmoriel
11-27-2003, 12:13 AM
Maybe so, but Taino likes to be contrary :P

Monty X
11-27-2003, 12:42 AM
Xyln writes:
Look,i have a bigger porn collection than anyone you can think of,i like sex,porn,filthy nasty ass sex more than all of you combined

Fucking priceless. YOU preaching to us about morals after stating you like nasty ass sex :)

And as an adult WITH morals,i have an obligations to uphold them

YOU have the obligation to shield your children from whatever YOU think is bad, NOT US you dumbass.

Palimax Sceleris
11-27-2003, 12:55 AM
Look,i have a bigger porn collection than anyone you can think of,i like sex,porn,filthy nasty ass sex more than all of you combinedYou obviously haven't been to my house.

Daemankyl
11-27-2003, 01:08 AM
everquest is a MMORPG (massive multiplayer online role playing game)

key words being ROLE PLAYING GAME.

thats great that some people loose a massive collection between eq and RL and im sorry that they do sometimes, but bottom line is you can one day wake up and EQ will be gone, where as RL is still there i doubt jazya or whoever wakes up and walks around town being so open but a game such as EQ allows her to be.

Dont get me wrong i have made EQ friends become real friends but i think a majority of them can agree i dont say things as openly as i do in EQ depending on subject matter of course.

I joke around alot and cybering can be funny, as can sex jokes. Point is why sit here and post some shit about being offended by someone being offended by what you choose to say or do in a fucking game.

Bottom line is no one and i mean NO ONE FUCKING PERSON is subjected to sit here and watch what anyone says, does, or is in EQ, you dont like it, just log. But dont sit there and bitch about being offended, thats just rediculous. Some people will care and some people wont, EQ has THOUSANDS of personalities and the best part is alot of those personalities arent even real.....it is after all a role playing game...

again important thing being role playing game...

Kein Bojangles
11-27-2003, 01:24 AM
Did you read the thread?CAN you read the thread?

Did you stick to one idea? CAN you stick to one idea? Let's find out.

So when i log on,and my kids are watching,i have to scramble around to make sure all filters are on so i can accomodate some 13 year olds that want to fuck each other with words anywhere they please?
Now,if you wanna say GOD DAMN FUCKIN DRAGON!Im sick of it.I have no prblem with that
BTW,i dont turn my filter off because i LOVE to curse

So, you don't want your kids seeing swears, but you don't turn the filters on? If you're swearing as well, even in a private channel, you could be exposing someone's children to naughty words. OMG!11! That's your first point of fucktardedness.


So when i log on,and my kids are watching
Look,i have a bigger porn collection than anyone you can think of,i like sex,porn,filthy nasty ass sex more than all of you combined

You let your kids near that computer?

K, thanks.

if you come into my front yard and climb my fucking tree and fuck a cat,and tell me to just close my curtians because you have a right to express yourself,ima come out there and drag you around by your dick till your new name is nancy.

Except it's more like you go to a party and retardedly bring your kids, which I'm surprised they let you have if you like to drag people around by their dicks, but that's another conversation entirely. No one is coming into your computer and forcing thse things upon you. YOU ARE CHOOSING TO SUBJECT YOURSELF TO THEM.

People have morals,and some snot nose punk that thinks they can compromise my morals by demeaning them and making fun of them and calling me "over sensetive" it obviously still a teenager.

You and your high morals of watching porn and allowing your children to even be in areas where they could come across it?

Yeah, real nice Frank.

Do you even know what your talking about anymore? Cause we sure as hell don't.

Xyln, it's your turn. I suggest you buy a clue instead of spinning the wheel this time.

Xyln
11-27-2003, 01:27 AM
YOU have the obligation to shield your children from whatever YOU think is bad, NOT US you dumbass.

You'll understand when you get big.

I'm not "shielding" my kids form anything.My kids will learn what premarital sex is and what sex is, and learn when and where it's an appropriate action,but it sure the fuck won't be from some hormone raging idiot on a computer game.

Also,as an adult with children,you aquire a type of responsibility beyond your comprehension.Not because you're stupid or dumb,but because you have yet to understand the type of responsibility that comes with having children.

If i saw 2 people sucking eachother off in front of YOUR child,what would you want me to do?

Should i just say,well,it's not MY kid,i should just walk on and go about my buisness,OR should I go over and "do something"?

Xyln
11-27-2003, 01:45 AM
My porn days are long over btw,it was to make a point.(STILL HAVE IT THOUGH!)

YOU ARE CHOOSING TO SUBJECT YOURSELF TO THEM.


This is where we differ greatly,and this is the root of of both sides of the argument.

How am I choosingto subject myself?There is no "warning label" on the box that even HINTS toward that type of behavior,so how would someone have the "CHOICE" to not have to be a part of it?

Xyln
11-27-2003, 01:52 AM
BTW,to answer your question,my SINGLE idea has not changed through out any of my post.


The type of behavior described in the thread is NOT the type of behavior that should be displayed in public forums,whether it be real life or 3d gaming.

It's inappropriate and very disrepectful of the other people playing the GAME.If this was EVERPORN, and i was bitching,then you'd have a point.

Kein Bojangles
11-27-2003, 02:14 AM
How am I choosingto subject myself?There is no "warning label" on the box that even HINTS toward that type of behavior,so how would someone have the "CHOICE" to not have to be a part of it?

Fact is, you know it's going on. You knew you would be playing an online game with interaction with other people, and that other peopel will do and say as they please. This is how, every time y ou log on, you know there's a chance you will see it. That's it. Nothing else to it. If you don't like it, log off and cancel your account, cause I damn well won't be changing my behavior to fit your 'morals'.

The type of behavior described in the thread is NOT the type of behavior that should be displayed in public forums,whether it be real life or 3d gaming.

But it is what happens, and if you know it's going on, as you obviously do, and you don't take measures (i.e. the filter) to prevent your children from seeing it, then you have nulled and voided your argument.

You refuse to even put the bad word filter on, but still complain when you see "/em begins to fuck xxxxx hard"? Yeah, that makes no sense.

And if your porn days are over, you wouldn't still have it. Covet thy neighbor's wife much, Mr. Morality?

Public channels will be filled with bad language and dirty themes (and yes, thats what they are, seeing as nowhere are people depicted having sex). If you don't like it, stop playing EverQuest. There is no other argument of "But oh noz, there shouldn't b-"

No. STFU. It happens, move on or move out.

This is a game, but it's also a place where people meet online to talk about things. This isn't some single player game where we all hold hands and have happy la-la times. Go play Teletubbies with your kids, but come play EverQuest with the people that will be swearing along with you.

Xyln
11-27-2003, 02:34 AM
(lets keep this civil if you dont mind,i wont get nuts if you dont)





Ok Kein,lets say what you say is true,and i should just "move on" because people are going to do it and i should accept it ,or move along.

Where do you think i should draw the line?Be honest,where would YOU draw the line between anarchy and morals?

Xyln
11-27-2003, 02:36 AM
anarchy and morals?

Meaning the spectrum of total anarchy and total over the top morals.(sex with a hole cut in the sheet type)

Kein Bojangles
11-27-2003, 02:44 AM
II don't quite understand the question. The line where you step in and say something? Where you shut off your computer and stop playing a game that has things you don't like? Or just the line where your morals *should* be, which would be a stupid question because the obvious answer if you ask that question to anyone would be exactly where their own morals are.

Xanif
11-27-2003, 02:44 AM
How come noone cybers me in open channels? :(

ainwein
11-27-2003, 02:49 AM
First off, cyber sluts are pathetic. Sorry, but it's fucking stupid.

Second, stop whining. The box says 'Game experience may change during online play'. If you don't want your kids to see anything you may find inappropriate, don't let them watch Everquest?

Oh noes!

Now I'm sure you'll say 'OMG BUT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO WATCH ME ON TEH COMPUETR!!!11'. Do you allow them in the room when you watch your pornography? I doubt it. If you're so strongly against these 'pornography' emotes, then keep your kids out of the room. You have no authority when it comes to what other people do in game, but you do have the ability to control what your children see in regards to this aspect. If it's not worth your effort to keep your children away from it then you obviously don't care that much.

Nydia Ywalmoriel
11-27-2003, 03:05 AM
Dear Xyln:

Here's the thing. The peanut gallery is absolutely right in that there's not a damned thing you can do to prevent folks from swearing, pornospamming, running those vile casinos (and screaming/cursing that invariably accompanies these ;) ), or doing countless other noxious things that might be in bad taste (to you), but aren't 'offenses' that Sony's going to step in and do anything about. Within pretty wide limits, free speech is the law of the land, and it's not worth your blood pressure to to get too upset about it.

Does that mean you should abandon all hope, and abandon the commons to degenerate into a 'moral cesspool', as you are implying? No, but realize that your ability to actually affect the commons is going to be pretty limited, especially if you come off as a raving hysteric (apologies for the sucky, sexually biased term here btw :) ). I've hated public zone buffwhoring for a long time, but standing around and railing about it in PoK accomplishes nothing (and I've come to realize that it serves a necessary function, much like its real world counterpart ;) ). Express your disapproval, civally, and move on...

Personally, I think it's past time for Norrath to have its own 'Zona Rosa', or red light district ;) . They can put a bunch of bars, casinos, brothels(buff and otherwise), and hotels in it, and have a big popup box come up when you attempt to zone in, asking 'Are you *sure* you want to enter 'The Den of Iniquity'?'. Hell, I'd zone in every once in a while...

Oh wait I forgot, they already have 'The Sims Online'... ;)

Regards,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Autonomous Collective

Xyln
11-27-2003, 03:10 AM
II don't quite understand the question. The line where you step in and say something? Where you shut off your computer and stop playing a game that has things you don't like? Or just the line where your morals *should* be, which would be a stupid question because the obvious answer if you ask that question to anyone would be exactly where their own morals are

Sorry if was vauge.I mean when and where,in you opinion,should i stop backing up and start pushing back?

You said just turn off the game and accept thats the way it is,now tomorrow (i know this is exaggerated,but its for the sake of making my point)a bunch of teenagers decide to start petting eacother and using profanity in the mall where me and my children are.Then i get home to find my nieghbors having sex in my front yard.






Where do i draw the line?Where do I step in and stand up for what i believe is right?

Or do i just keep running because thats the way it is?

Like i said (i know this is exaggerated,but its for the sake of making my point

Xyln
11-27-2003, 03:15 AM
Nydia,you know what,you hit the nail on the head. :)

Thanks for the debate Kein was fun,but Nydia is right,if Sony doesn't care im arguing for nothing.

Just don't come fuck a cat in my tree!

Kein Bojangles
11-27-2003, 03:24 AM
Just don't come fuck a cat in my tree!

Aw, damn, but I was gonna make a point out of it :(

Anterak
11-27-2003, 03:41 AM
But it is what happens, and if you know it's going on, as you obviously do, and you don't take measures (i.e. the filter) to prevent your children from seeing it, then you have nulled and voided your argument.

You refuse to even put the bad word filter on, but still complain when you see "/em begins to fuck xxxxx hard"? Yeah, that makes no sense.
Like someone said, swearing != pornography.
Are you saying that it's the same if kids hear someone shouting "fuck!" because he got a rock on his foot, and kids watching 2 lovers in a car? /boggles

Make no sense? I don't know for you, but I wouldn't need to swear to "make my point" /coughs while cybering... ;)

Oh and the cat in the tree made me cry of laughing, thanks Xyln. :lol

Kein Bojangles
11-27-2003, 03:51 AM
Sorry, but it can't get much more graphic that that in eq without you knowing whats coming and being able to leave the area. With the filter on, you would be able to see the fuck in that as #%#$, and so when the kids ask about it just say "Punches".

Truth be told, I would agree with him if he would turn on his filter and then complain about it. But if you're trying to shield your children from bad things in EQ, but leave your bad word filter off, you have no argument.

Anterak
11-27-2003, 03:55 AM
/puts his hand between his legs and squeezes like a junk monkey.
Help me /filter on!!

Kein Bojangles
11-27-2003, 04:00 AM
I'm pretty sure a kid 8 years old will just laugh at monkey.

RolielKotN
11-27-2003, 04:01 AM
You know, I was going to write this huge post explaining my personal views on the issue, but instead, I'm just going to poke fun at the irony of the initial post in this thread.

Hey Jazya, Kurt Vonnegut Jr. called, and he said you're a fucking genius.

Dartaignon
11-27-2003, 04:40 AM
Yeah, they should probably nerf the "suck off" emotes.

KMA1234
11-27-2003, 10:14 AM
webslut_01 if its that important to you that other people know you enjoy wearing semen on yer forehead then by all means spam away. if you don't want comments from other people about something silly they see in a public channel then stfu and use /tells and keep the jizz to yerself.

just exactly how fat are you?

Spekter
11-27-2003, 12:53 PM
Once again Nydia you word things so well (hugs).

Where "Buffwhoring" doesn't bother me as I take it like merchants selling legit wares. Those that have to make a public scene of cybering make me sick.

Again I don't mind public shows of affection done in good taste, but the sluttery is just too much.

My son seeing it? (shrugs) He actually ignores it and is too busy off hunting to notice much. The truth is why do these people have to subject others to their crap instead of keeping it private. HECK have an orgy in a private channel for all I care. The word is Respect. Respect the others players in not subjecting them to such crude behavior. It's not like you're being told not to do it, but being asked not to openly do it.

Sorta like not bending over IRL and having you boyfriend screw you in Times Square during rush hour.:eek

So basically, if you continue such disrespect of others around you, don't go bitching and whining when they give you heck over it and spam you back to STFU, get a room, and I'm sure far worse.

As to the otherside of this. When such people go to the lengths of these displays even past the word filter, there's a trick I love using. /ignore. This also insures I'll never group with them, hear a shout, ooc or anything for help, buffs or a rez. :evil

Growlpuss
11-27-2003, 07:57 PM
Live and Let Live. If you offend others, then expect to hear about it.

If i'm walking down the road and there's a couple havin' a little grope and they are professing undying love the ~shwing how nice for them.

If I'm walking down the road and there's some guy grabbin' some chicks crotch and saying "get on your knees and do me" while he grabs her head and redirects it to his penis, then I turn around and find another route to get to where I'm going.

If your gonna thro out a shwack of disrespectful abusive emotes, then your impeding the way others want to live.
If your not in it for the attention, then take it to tells. You want to emote it then expect the attention of those around you that you have offended.

Receving tells because your offensive, it's because your offensive to someone. Would it be that painful to just apologize? Why bitch about it?

Whether you feel validated or not in what you said, you offended someone else; Full Stop. Apologize.

As far and the persnickity types go, people who wait for the opportunity just to bitch to hear themselves type, that is what the ignore list is for, for they are impeding (unreasonably) the way you want to live.

2 coppers from Pusscat

JazyaVechette
11-27-2003, 08:35 PM
people who wait for the opportunity just to bitch to hear themselves type, that is what the ignore list is for, for they are impeding (unreasonably) the way you want to live.And right there you've perfectly described the type of person I'm ranting about.

Sothgar
11-27-2003, 10:49 PM
Well, reading all this I figured I would post a couple of items directly from Sony's website. Where in there does it say that I have to listen to someone hump in public? If you pay my $12.95 a month then yeah fuck away in public in front of me. If you feel like horking a shorty fine do it in tells but don't subject other people to your overactive sexdrive. Here is the link to the rules of conduct for those that haven't read them

eqlive.station.sony.com/s...onduct.jsp (http://eqlive.station.sony.com/support/customer_service/cs_rules_of_conduct.jsp)

2. You may not use any sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive language.

4. Foul language is not permitted, in any language.

Excessive use of foul language in an inappropriate context, including swear words, real-world racial slurs, and other language that is not consistent with the fantasy environment and designed to hurt, will be considered a disruption. The existence of the filter (/filter) is not a license to be profane.

8. You may not abuse other players or Customer Service Representatives.

The following actions would be considered abuse:

o Hate Mongering - participation in or propagation of Hate literature, behavior, or propaganda related to real -world characteristics.

o Sexual Abuse or Harassment - untoward and/or unwelcome advances of a graphic and sexual nature. This includes, but is not limited to, virtual rape, overt sexual overtures, and stalking of a sexual nature.


Sothgar Spongepants
65 Arch Mage

Chand01
11-28-2003, 05:18 AM
he copied, he pasted... awesome

Swifton
11-28-2003, 04:02 PM
Potty mouths make papa smurf cry.

Talking Dirty is Ebil!

Yes,,I may have been seen occasionally in wolf form Humping a corpse in every zone on Norrath but I dont SAY I'm humping a dead guy.

Well there was that time heeman was an otter in pok and was afk while fd and I emoted something about his tail pointing straight up while I pounded it to him in wolf form but I did NOT use foul language!!

Clean up dat language Bucko or I'ma Wash your Mouth out wif SOAP!!

You'll be in BIG Truble MR!! Don't Make Me Stop This CAR!!

to sum up..Talking dirty is ebil..papa smurf crys..heeman walked funny for a month..

nuff said.)

Sothgar
11-28-2003, 04:44 PM
Its not a matter of using foul language or making papa smurf cry Swifton, its called having respect for other players. If I want to see porn I will go down to the local video store and rent dirty debutantes #300 (Or whatever they are up to). There is a difference between someone playing a game and someone fingering thier pink taco or go on a white water wristing tournament. It all boils down to respect, hell if foul language was a basis for getting banned, Sony wouldn't have a player base. To Chand yeah I cut and pasted, was just pointing out the sony rules of conduct, in case someone missed them.

Sothgar Spongepants
65 Arch mage
Paradise War

Kein Bojangles
11-28-2003, 07:16 PM
Yeah. Rules of conduct. Those things that people follow.

Tierfin
11-28-2003, 08:35 PM
Taino:

http://www.think-evolution.com/uploads/communazi.gif

Xanif
11-28-2003, 09:57 PM
LOL

Abiona Bayrnger
11-28-2003, 10:08 PM
Jaz hugged me the other day in an overly friendly way and it made me cry but the GM said I couldn't do anything about it... :(

blooddraw
11-28-2003, 11:10 PM
who cares if its a 13 year old i could care less if this chick want to blow ct keep it in tells i dont want to hear you most intamite moment with your beast pet

ThePerfectFlaw
11-28-2003, 11:20 PM
I do! Because then I know who to make fun of.

BohboHero
12-04-2003, 09:41 PM
If you don't Cyber in public channels where people can see your mad l33t cybering skills how do you expect to get new partners to cyber with? Bring on the under age poon!

Garrath
12-05-2003, 03:35 PM
So when i log on,and my kids are watching,i have to scramble around to make sure all filters are on so i can accomodate some 13 year olds that want to fuck each other with words anywhere they please?

Quite frankly, yes.

If you REALLY want to protect your kids from the evils of public cyber (which I have not seen once in my 2+ years of playing...) then put the damn filter back on when they are around. Its called bein a responsible parent. You are responsible for what they see and hear. We aren't. But instead of fixing something on your end, you would rather everyone else changed to make you happy.

You really should walk around Times Square sometime and ask all the people there to stop swearing because little Timmy may hear. While your at it, make it stop raining because he may get wet and catch a cold.

Master Garrath Moore
Arcanist
Final Destiny

Xyln
12-05-2003, 04:14 PM
Garrath,don't bring me back into this idiotic conversation please.

It's worng,disrespectful ,and not to mention,disturbing,that people actually defend their right to do this type of behavior IN A PUBLIC CHANNEL.In private,get ya self a goat and some monkeys with whistles and GO TO TOWN,but in public,act respectful./shrug
Go by some porn,jiz on the monitor,then log into EQ.

TA DA!

mirdorr
12-05-2003, 04:41 PM
It's worng,disrespectful ,and not to mention,disturbing,that people actually defend their right to do this type of behavior IN A PUBLIC CHANNEL

Hah. Then you must really be disturbed when the Supreme Court upholds people's right to do this.

Garrath
12-05-2003, 04:51 PM
I missed all the good flames...Stupid work /rude.

Anyway, Its on you to protect your kids. Not me. If you cant be bothered to do so, use birth control.

Garrath
12-05-2003, 04:54 PM
BTW, I am not a curser, spammer, cyber0r etc...I just hate it when people take it on themselves to dictate what I should or should not be saying or listening to.

Also, if they were doing it in /say, why didnt you just move? /say has a pretty small range..

I agree with the poster who said some people just like to hear themselves bitch.

Xyln
12-05-2003, 06:25 PM
BTW, I am not a curser, spammer, cyber0r etc...I just hate it when people take it on themselves to dictate what I should or should not be saying or listening to.

EXACTLY my fuckin point!!!!!! AMEN!

It DOES go both ways ya know .../gasp

You fuckin liberals think because you exercise YOUR freedom of speach in a non-traditional ,HIP way,that my freedoms(conservative) somehow become lesser.


So instead of pushing YOUR beliefs on me and me pushing mine on you,lets compromise and not do it in PUBLIC!!!! where anyone of any mind set could be walking by.

Garrath
12-05-2003, 07:28 PM
You fuckin liberals think because you exercise YOUR freedom of speach in a non-traditional ,HIP way,that my freedoms(conservative) somehow become lesser.

Now we are getting somewhere. Politics is always good for a flame or two, though I fail to see your non sequitr into it, I will happily debate it. :p

I am a lot of things, some of them good, some of them annoying, some of them bad. One thing I certainly am NOT is liberal. If you would like to debate that, feel free to start another thread in the correct forum.

I think you (Xyln) have the right to whine and complain as much or as loudly as you want. Go for it. But when we call you on your hypocrisy of saying "people should only say what I think is ok" you really should do a little introspection.

It also means you have lost your arguement.

Put your filter on, move away, turn off /say, you can even do a /wh to get the offensive text off the screen...any of these options will block little Timmy's eyes from the wordplay p0rn you so desperately want to keep from him. Instead, you chose to bitch about it in a public forum. And you expect the whole world to alter to your whim.

Get a clue. People in life do not have to conform to your version of what reality should be. If you want to make a change, become a guide and patrol the public say cyb0r channel hangouts (wherever they are). Until then, keep tilting at the windmills. And put your schlong back in your pants. Being a parent is apparently a job you are not prepared for.

Gerfs
12-05-2003, 07:32 PM
FAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAP SPLOOOOOGE!

Xyln
12-05-2003, 08:00 PM
I think you (Xyln) have the right to whine and complain as much or as loudly as you want. Go for it. But when we call you on your hypocrisy of saying "people should only say what I think is ok" you really should do a little introspection.



Ok,first of all,HOW can you possibly,from what i have written,gather that i think people should ONLY say what i think is ok?Thats a big ass broad sweeping job there.

My argument IS(specifically):If you are in a public forum,out of respect if for nothing else,i think you should act in a socially acceptable manner.Keyword is PUBLIC.

Now,if i have to sit here and explain socially acceptable behavior to you,Im arguing with the wrong person.

However,If you're in group chat,tells,guchat,one of the trillion chat channels available,and evryone there knows that there will be cybering,have a blast i say.Jiz once for me!


Do i think porn should be banished? NO
Do i think orgies should be banished? Newp
Do i think anything sexual(within the laws) should be outlawed?newp

I do however think there is a time and place for the activities and a public forum is NOT one of them.

MarzMartini
12-05-2003, 08:01 PM
EQ is not for you underage sex pervs public sexcapades.

Jeezus what does a webcam cost these days, 30 bux?

Grab a pair and have fun to your hearts content. If being in public is what turns you on, make a webpage. I'm sure many people here would watch.

Xyln
12-05-2003, 08:04 PM
BTW,by saying you're not a liberal doesn't make you NOT one.

I have to think your views expressed here are but a microcosm of the bigger picture.

Maybe your a closet liberal? :)

Garrath
12-05-2003, 09:13 PM
Ok,first of all,HOW can you possibly,from what i have written,gather that i think people should ONLY say what i think is ok?Thats a big ass broad sweeping job there.

Your determining what people should say and where in a situation that is not physically endangring anyone else (ie: fire in a movie theater). Quite simply, its not your call. /Report it if it bothers you that much.

My argument IS(specifically):If you are in a public forum,out of respect if for nothing else,i think you should act in a socially acceptable manner.Keyword is PUBLIC.

I dont disagree with you. I just realize that it is not up to me to impose my moral code on anyone else. And just because you have a kid watching you play that does not give you the right to do so either.

However,If you're in group chat,tells,guchat,one of the trillion chat channels available,and evryone there knows that there will be cybering,have a blast i say.Jiz once for me!

/gu and /g are also public channels. If you were in a grp and there was cyber going on, wouldnt little Timmy be just as exposed? Would you insist that the guild stop? group stop? or would you finally turn your stupid filter on.

I do however think there is a time and place for the activities and a public forum is NOT one of them.

Again, its not your call. Its Sony's. /Report them if it bothers you that much.

I am as closet a liberal as GWB, Reagan, Hannity and Limbaugh. I just believe that its not up to you to dictate your moral code to me any more than it is mine to dictate to you or anyone else.

If I dont like what you have to say, I can put you on ignore or move or any number of things. The difference between you and me is that I take responsibility for changing my situation when I see things I don't like, you want others to change for you. Its called personal responsibility. Look it up.

Xyln
12-05-2003, 10:42 PM
/gu and /g are also public channels. If you were in a grp and there was cyber going on, wouldnt little Timmy be just as exposed? Would you insist that the guild stop? group stop? or would you finally turn your stupid filter on.


These are not public channels.These are private and i have the option to turn them off.


However,Bob,please stick your tounge between my legs and make me flow like a river you stud,in emotes,would not be effected by the filter and is immposible to turn off.

I just realize that it is not up to me to impose my moral code on anyone else. And just because you have a kid watching you play that does not give you the right to do so either.


I don't think this has to do with IMPOSING moral codes,i think it has to do with keep it where it belongs. It started out as a moral thing,but morals are wierd subjects.

You're abosolutely right,however,its not up to me what sony allows and doesnt allow.I was just debating the subject mainly for fun.

Xyln
12-05-2003, 10:44 PM
Just don't come fuckin any cats in my tree!

Spekter
12-05-2003, 10:59 PM
I believe something is being over looked here. That the filter is easily got around by choice of words or simply inserting a *, %, # or any number of symbol and misspelled words. Some people go out of their way to even do this. On such occasions the filter is useless.
I really don't see the big deal with just taking it to private. It is freeing both sides to enjoy their game time. Also you should think on one thing. Many chat forums have a posted or legal warning on age limits, yet if the proper authorities were to set you up for acting in inappropriate manner with a minor, well you're busted. This could easily happen and EQ as well. If it ever does then water SoE buckle down on this behavior and fast.

This is not a threat, just a realistic possibility.

Guess the real question is, why can't we all just respect each other? This whimpering of my rights, your rights is childish. Could easily be solved by things being done in the proper places. SoE really needs just to make a zone for such things, but would that really stop it in the other places? Don't think so, cause there will always be those who do it, not so much for the enjoyment of the act, but the enjoyment of how it upsets others.

Chanur Nailo
12-06-2003, 11:16 AM
I just wanted to add that if SOE added a zone for cyber that they would probably have to up the rating to 18+ or somthing. And judging by the fact the istupid people that still let thier kids play below the age recommended by soe I think the zone would be pretty pointless.
People should have enough respect/common curtesy to keep somthing like that in tells. And parents need to take responsibility and not expect sony to moniter what their children are watching, grow the fuck up and be a parent.


Chanur

Hubbe
12-06-2003, 11:30 AM
serverwide.cyber is there for a reason!!

Xyln
12-06-2003, 03:26 PM
And parents need to take responsibility and not expect sony to moniter what their children are watching, grow the fuck up and be a parent.


Expect Sony to monitor?I think YOU need to grow up(the fuck).

Sony put the product out,Iv spent 1000's of dollars on this game and NO where have i read that it may contain some fuckin moron talking about lickin the sweet nector on my screen.

You bet your fuckin ass i expect Sony to monitor it.


You know whats funny?If Sony would break out the nerf stick and nerf the fuck out of whatever toon you are,THEN you would cry like a little girl and bitch for weeks.

So why do they have to monitor THAT aspect of the game and not the others??

Or should Sony put out a product,abandon it,and let the chips fall where they may?

Taleren Bloodsong
12-06-2003, 04:35 PM
to quote Jazya: "Since some of you lack basic reading comprehension I'll reinforce the following point:

I were getting offended ... "

Have fun criticizing peoples' reading comprehension when you can't write properly?


I were getting offended? Were? How about was?

Maybe if you could use proper verbage, and fewer swear words, people could understand what you wanted to convey?

How about I write that last comment again so you can understand it better?

Stop fucking using shitty english and maybe more fucking people can understand your fucking point.

almadar01
12-06-2003, 06:50 PM
I dont know how anyone can even argue with Xyln at this point...

Cybersluts are fucking pathetic, and i dont know how anyone can support em to do their crap in public channels, its just wrong.

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Growlpuss
12-06-2003, 06:59 PM
Not to mention..

Common Courtesy

aesahaetr
12-07-2003, 12:08 AM
I just tend to laugh to myself at how pathetic it is /shrug

Nothing to get steamed over...

Lleauric
12-07-2003, 03:40 AM
When you name yourself Asshat.. I guess a sense of humor is necessary.

Ruthey
12-07-2003, 07:08 AM
I've read through a little of this and some points come to mind.

First, this just shows how anonymity can be really bad for you.

Second, basic human kindness is a much more attractive, and I would argue, beneficial quality. Basing your actions on basic human kindness you can give you an easy foundation to evaluate whether those actions are worth engaging in or not.

These two, behaving unanonymously in an anonymous world, and operating from a basis of kindness, are connected.

Anonymity leads to folks engaging in extreme behaviors because they can get away with it -- or so they think. No real repercussions, right? They can do whatever they wish. But in fact there is a harm done -- to themselves. The more you engage in behaviors which cause some sort of perceived harm, the more you will have disharmony that YOU have to deal with. But worse, the more you intentionally behave inconsiderately or even harmfully, and the more you get away with it, the worse your own character becomes because you create bad habits for yourself. Habits that you may not wish to have later on in time.

So if you operate from a foundation of basic kindness, you might consider that your own selfish actions might have a negative impact on someone else -- and therefore on you. How can your actions, when you are doing something for your self, actually have a negative impact on you?

Well, in the case that originally started this thread, by having others react to your actions. Sending you whining tells, or what you perceive as whining tells. But if you approach these folks from a perspective of basic human kindness, then through understanding you can create less trouble for yourself by modifying your behavior in a way that respects their feelings.

If you don't think that these issues are actually quite a serious thing, just recall Columbine. That may seem an extreme comparison in this case, but actually the root of that terrible behavior is here.

JazyaVechette
12-08-2003, 11:09 PM
Have fun criticizing peoples' reading comprehension when you can't write properly?

Stop fucking using shitty english and maybe more fucking people can understand your fucking point.I think you got the point but chose to ignore it - opting to instead attack my wording... maybe because you had no other basis of rebuttal? Just a guess...

Again - read. The volume of curses was deliberate in the rant 'style' of the post.

However, if one grammatical error is sufficient to lynch me, here's a rope *toss*

JazyaVechette
12-08-2003, 11:13 PM
Ruthey-

I agree with what you say about basic human kindnes. I'd like to point out that the recipients of my so-called 'behaviors' weren't the ones being offended (as a matter of fact, they welcomed my attention!) it's the passers-by who chose to get upset and beligerent.

My replies to them were usually a simple 'sorry =/' and that pacified many. To those that it didn't, I wasn't anyways.

Ruthey
12-10-2003, 12:24 AM
I was just walking around Times Square during lunch and wondered to myself - supposing I stood here with a close friend and started saying highly sexual emote-like things to them out loud?

Maybe I could do that because no one would know me - none of my friends would be there to hear - probably people in Times Square would ignore me.

Or what if I said highly sexual emote-like things in the town square of a small town during some outdoor fair -- where I'd have the possibility of knowing a lot of the people passing me by, maybe even people with their children.

I figure engaging in this behavior in person, live, either in Times Square or in the small town because would be embarassing, or dangerous, or offensive, or crazy, or even just worthy of being ignored. Such actions would cause reactions of one sort or another.

But to expect those sorts of actions not to cause reactions is just silly. And it may be useful to consider before you engage in an action if you'd do it in person - with no computer to hide your nakedness behind.

Nydia Ywalmoriel
12-10-2003, 12:28 AM
The thing is, Ruthey, Jazya probably *would* do those things in person... while it's not what you or I might do, you can't accuse her of being a hypocrite here ;) ...

Regards,
Nydia

ainwein
12-10-2003, 12:59 AM
'Game experience may change during online play'

Please, shut the fuck up and be a responsible parent.

Cyber sluts, shut the fuck up, you're pathetic.

almadar01
12-10-2003, 01:02 AM
She wouldnt do that kinda stuff in person, shes a pathetic cyber slut, thats it. She prolly likes doing it over internet because no one can see her face so she can get all wet and naughty while anonymous.

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pielover23
12-10-2003, 01:31 AM
Cyber sluts are one of the most pathetic things there are. Mangina cyber sluts far surpass them though. Search around and you'll find that Jazya shimself says that shim is a guy IRL. Fucking disgusting.

No pie for you, you nasty piece of trash.

JazyaVechette
12-10-2003, 03:48 PM
Pielover is right about one thing, it's not like the fact that I'm a guy is this huge closely-guarded secret. Mangina cyber-slut? Label me what you will... the more you say about me without knowing me, the more it says about you.

I will admit, I have been known to respond to fairly normal questions in 'outrageous' ways for sheer entertainment value.

I would and have done many of those things in public... public displays of affection aren't something I'm uncomfortable with. Just last night I received a 'get a room' tell for returning a friend's /hug with a /kiss. While said person didn't continue it much beyond that, I found it amusing as those emotes are already part of the game.

Sothgar
12-10-2003, 05:16 PM
True, but the emotes /Hork-a-shorty and /play-hide-the-salami are not part of the game.

Sotghar
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Paradise war

Dee Cee
12-10-2003, 05:45 PM
Aww, shim is looking for attention, how cute.

Ruthey
12-10-2003, 11:20 PM
Well, heh, whatever this person has done (shim, him, her - no matter) - doesn't deserve this sort of bashing.

Again - basic human kindness and would you do it face-to-face. 99% of what is written here I wager would never be said to the person's face unless the speaker is really mean-hearted.

TienshihanSuperCleric
12-11-2003, 08:53 AM
Hey Jaz, if you're talking about the ranger in BB, t'was just a joke referring to this thread. ;)

TienshihanSuperCleric
12-11-2003, 08:56 AM
go go not checking boxes!!

JazyaVechette
12-11-2003, 03:04 PM
Hehe naw, was a guy in the Bazaar.

almadar01
12-11-2003, 07:01 PM
Oh, so youre a guy and cyber other guys? Thats getting pretty funny...

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JazyaVechette
12-11-2003, 10:38 PM
no... I /kissed a female friend of mine who /hugged me. Some guy who was nearby sent me a tell, "get a room"

The people who my initial post complains about are not the targets of my 'acts'.