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Taino
08-27-2003, 10:54 AM
Deecee wrote:BTW, Please stop saying grats on finishinq EQ. you sound really stupid and should die in a ditch with a car on top of you in the rain.
I don't want to start a flame in a congratulation thread. So I put it in here.
2 thoughts.
1. So you wish I'd die because I believe this is as high as you can get in the game? Isn't it true that there is NOTHING after PoTime right now? So.. fuck you? I get very very damn sensitive when people say they wished I'd die in RL just because they dislike what I say. That's like the most childish and stupid thing and lowest level actually.
2. Yes I believe that's the highest point of EQ. What do you want to do after you killed all fucking gods in this game? Even the reincarnation of 4 gods together!? Hello? The only thing that is left is to kill Veeshan herself, which would mean the destruction of Norrath the moment she dies. SO in my opinion there is no logical "higher" point then PoTime. Which would mean.. you beat EQ.
Now fuck off, you can disagree with me, but such an insult and stupid comment after I actually congratulated this well organised and damn good guild, is not really an indication of much intelligence. I expected different from you.
Haloface
08-27-2003, 12:49 PM
I wouldn't really take what Deecee says to heart.
She's just, stupid.
Dartaignon
08-27-2003, 02:26 PM
I think you burned too many bridges to be sucking up to EW now :P
Monty X
08-27-2003, 03:43 PM
SO in my opinion there is no logical "higher" point then PoTime.
Taino, i'm confused by your logic. Seru and Shei were the "high" point of Luclin for LotJ. Does your logic tell us Saryrn and Bertoxxulous ( a Swifton run raid doesn't count here ) will be the "higher" point of PoP for LotJ?
Taino
08-27-2003, 03:51 PM
dart: The fact that EW hates me for not stepping back on a mob that EW wanted to kill and for not flagging their members has NOTHING to do with the fact that they get their shit done. They wanted us to flag their members or to not kill a mob that we planned to. We declined both things, which was our right and completely fair. Not insanely nice, but in no way unfair or something. Since then EW generally thinks that I am a fucking asshole, since I as the guildleader represent the opinion of the whole guild. But anyways, this has nothing to do with the fact EW gets their shit done. Does it?
They are the most successful Guild on ARo. This doesn't mean we're friends. And admitting that they are a well organised good guild doesn't mean I suck up. I don't have the need to do so. I am just honest enough to be able to admit that people besides me can be successful and doing things right aswell. OMG!
Montagor:
I don't get your point. What has LotJ to do with this? EW killed the highest gods, EW killed the reincarnation of 4 gods at once. There is, out of roleplay point of view no possible way to get any higher. Of course Sony can buff Emperor Crush up and make him quad for 10k. But that doesn't change the fact that its just Emperor Crush and that EW already killed all gods there are.
And again, what does LotJ have to do with this please? You confuse me.
And as addition, we don't participate in Swiftons Raids. At least not as a guild, may be 1-2 Jokers joined one of them raids once or so, no clue. We just respect his efforts and encourage him to go on.
Dartaignon
08-27-2003, 04:04 PM
Where the hell is deecee, this thread has potential. :(
Dee Cee
08-27-2003, 04:04 PM
Taino, listen to your mommy when she says "Its better to be thought of a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
ya, ya, I know /chuckle
Anterak
08-27-2003, 04:19 PM
Why is it stupid to grats them for finishing the game? :(
(I know I'm stupid, hence the grats and hence the stupid question)
Blazemas
08-27-2003, 04:27 PM
I HATE people telling other people to die. Scumbags. Low Lifes. Absolutely EMPTY lives. Nothing else. I don't care who you talk about, your a filthy low scum, unless its a murderer or rapist.
Bugs me too. Regardless of someones reputation. I have never heard anyone tell someone that in RL. So your just a faceless coward to use the veil of your monitor to say something as low and stupid as that. Coward, don't ever think you are anything in life.. you aren't.. nor ever will be.
trimlock
08-27-2003, 04:47 PM
"which would mean the destruction of Norrath the moment she dies."
so untrue!
worse thing that would happen is all dragons die, and we are left killing 4 armed aliens
Dartaignon
08-27-2003, 04:55 PM
VT 4 arms make baby jesus cry :(
Haloface
08-27-2003, 05:19 PM
'I think you burned too many bridges to be sucking up to EW now :P '
- OH NOS TAINOZ!!!!111
Yer really fucked now, omgosh.
Taino
08-27-2003, 06:26 PM
So besides
a) I suck up with EW
b) I should die
c) I am an idiot
...noone has any even remotely backed up argument against what I said? Hello? WAKE UP AYONAE RO!!! FLAME ME!!!!!
Omg u should die u ew asslicker u r n idiot!
That's like all I was able to take out of this thread.
It used to be more entertaining. *puts oil in the fire*
For my whole life I have only said " Die! I do not want to see you ever again" to one person once. We used to be REAL close than ever and I ended up being the one who he loved the most that hurt him to the core.
I would not wish death upon anyone through any form in any way.
KiradureAtani
08-27-2003, 06:42 PM
call me stupid, because I was only guilded with Deecee for like 6 months.
But my guess is that DC honestly doesn't pass his time in deep meditation, praying for the death of Taino.
Taino - Your congratulations for our guild are well recieved, and much appreciated, even given our less than perfect pass. I have respect for you, and I believe that even despite our differences that you have respect for me as well. So please, take it from me, DC is merely using a figure of speech, I hardly think his intent was to drive you to suiciding on oncoming traffic.
As for the whole "omg we beat eq" thing... well, for now, we have conquered the single most difficult encounter in the game. Will there be more in the comming months with new expansions? Most likely, you (or anyone else) can take that as you will.
For the most part however, we plan to kick back for a few days and savor the taste of sweet victory.
moklianne
08-27-2003, 06:56 PM
Akie, I love your Sig! :)
Who did it?
Dee Cee
08-27-2003, 07:06 PM
Im sorry to disappoint you Taino, You were not considered when I made that post, Americans are a funny type, they type things that people from other countries that do not know English as there first language wouldnt understand.
If you wanna try to Get your guild in the spotlight, try killing something instead of creating waves. I think LS is Recruting, you could try that route.
Akie, I love your Sig! Who did it?
We keep it down. We have a secret weapon. ;)
Taino
08-27-2003, 07:52 PM
Thats like my uhh.... first new thread in months. Like my 5th post in august on this forum. And... I start a flame to put my guild in spotlight? I don't even have a friggen guildname, website link or magelo in my signature.
And what do zou mean with "zou were not considered" please? You directly replied to me, with my name in your answer and you didn't "consider me"?
Ohh you americans are strange huh? You don't mean what you say huh? What about you fucking say what you mean then maybe? Is it that hard to make use of your native language in a way that you mean what you say? Have you ever heared about "standing to your words"? Is this some sort of "hey fuck you asshole" "hey I didnt call you asshole, its just a saying" thingie?
You fucking slut, you're a dirty ugly whore you should be tortured to a slow death, have your nails pulled and get raped.
You were not considered when I just wrote that line, Swiss people are a funny type, they type things that people from other countries that do not know English as there first language wouldnt understand.
I am happy we cleared that up.
/bitchslap
And you call me an idiot.
Taino
08-27-2003, 07:55 PM
And Akie's sig rocks :)
Taino
08-27-2003, 07:57 PM
Urgh another addition:
Thank you Kiradure, your post is highly appreciated :)
Dee Cee
08-27-2003, 08:03 PM
You lose. Thank you. BTW this is my last post on this board.
Quote that My little Euro friend.
samanusuke
08-27-2003, 08:05 PM
IvM are assholes! Check the pic if you dont believe me.
http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev2/files/samanusuke/unclesam.jpg
Taino
08-27-2003, 08:07 PM
You lose. Thank you. BTW this is my last post on this board.
Quote that My little Euro friend.
Does that even remotely make any sense in any possible way? If so, someone enlighten me please. Was that an insult? I don't get it.
and... lol Sammysucker :)
Fandros
08-27-2003, 08:13 PM
Thanks for the grats Taino, but don't flatter yourself boyo.
Your far too below our radar for us to take time hating you.
You chose to oppose us once in an effort to bolster your own ego.../applaud.
I see you still cling to that as a radiant act of defiance in the face of the great EW warmachine. Keep on rolling with that.
Fandros
Elazul Valeren
08-27-2003, 08:18 PM
Rofl Sam, that pic is too funny. Well done if you made it.
Anterak
08-27-2003, 08:29 PM
So we still don't know why it is stupid to say "grats for finishing the game"... The deception. :\
Hanknaan did Akie's sig btw.
Some other work of his (note, some of the sigs are outdated):
http://home.earthlink.net/~photek220016/_uimages/Teh_Abrd.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~photek220016/_uimages/hanknaan.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~photek220016/_uimages/Marajayd.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jmdeverhardt/photos/baltyn.bmp
http://home.mchsi.com/~kanibal/kanibal.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~photek220016/_uimages/zimgrogA.jpg
and of course:
http://eindyin.homestead.com/files/me.jpg
Personally, I like MJ's the best, though all are phat.
moklianne
08-27-2003, 08:38 PM
Wow, i love them all. Well...the last one could use some work.
ThePerfectFlaw
08-27-2003, 10:10 PM
This is me mocking anyone who takes anything said on the internet this seriously.
Mock mock mock.
Carry on.
Samuel Ledbetter
08-27-2003, 10:29 PM
Thanks for the grats Taino, but don't flatter yourself boyo.
All that asskissing and then they shit on his face.
I love this place.
ps: I didn't really mean that someone actually shit on.....oh nevermind.
Hubbe
08-27-2003, 11:42 PM
nah they dont... just fandros, but thats to be expected. He is their evil guy.
Blazemas
08-27-2003, 11:52 PM
I see, things said on the internet are not accountable due to the anonymity of the situation. Unlike real life where things that are said are held accountable by the individual behind them. Very logical.
Take responsibility for your words regardless of the medium. Be smarter then the average bear.
trimlock
08-28-2003, 12:05 AM
and steal picinic baskets?
Shortyrez Starfury
08-28-2003, 12:32 AM
As ususal Fandros comes in and owns the thread six ways from Sunday.
Show's over. Now everyone go home.
0 Haak Ataak 0
08-28-2003, 01:02 AM
ya...that was so owny...(/sarcasm off) This is a game, get a grip and stop insulting each other over it. Just play the game.
Vladius
08-28-2003, 02:21 AM
I see you still cling to that as a radiant act of defiance in the face of the great EW warmachine. Keep on rolling with that.
Wow someone's stroking their ego.
I wonder who had the honor of taking the big shit that brought you into the world?
Kein Bojangles
08-28-2003, 03:18 AM
I wonder who had the honor of taking the big shit that brought you into the world?
No no, babies come from the other hole. I think that's fifth grade material these days, you'll get it soon.
Bylimet Spiritwalker
08-28-2003, 05:12 AM
Hmmmm.......
EW once again accomplished an amazing feat, and were given sincere grats on the boards...
Deecee for whatever reason shit on the grats offered....
Taino called Deecee on the childish nature of a shitty post....
Fandros shit on himself.....
Oh well, EW still did one hell of a job, in spite of having these two along.
Bylimet Spiritwalker - Hierophant
Bytesum Spiritwalker - Assassin
ViBeSJoKeR
08-28-2003, 06:05 AM
Wasn't it thanks to XA that they did the job cause EW couldn't do it on their own? Ah nm.....
DiscW
08-28-2003, 06:37 AM
Well.. just figured I'd provide an argument for ya. Although I do agree that Deecee is a dumbass.
The correct thing to say would be "Congrats on beating EQ, for the moment". There will be more expansions, and harder Zones. People were congratulated on beating EQ when they first killed Vox, Phara Dar, Vulak, etc, but here we are again.
And there's definetly other places the story could go, especially after the cop-out time warp at the end of Plane of Time.
Taino
08-28-2003, 08:20 AM
Hey DiscoWliten :)
Here you go:
Yes I believe that's the highest point of EQ. What do you want to do after you killed all fucking gods in this game? Even the reincarnation of 4 gods together!? Hello? The only thing that is left is to kill Veeshan herself, which would mean the destruction of Norrath the moment she dies. So in my opinion there is no logical "higher" point then PoTime. Which would mean.. you beat EQ.
That's why I said EW beat EQ, and not "EW beat EQ for the moment".
As said above, Verant could buff Empereor Crush up so he quads for 10k, but still he's just Emperor Crush. And EW just killed all the gods there are. And the gods are the highest beings there are, besides Veeshan. So you can't get any "higher". :)
Hubbe
08-28-2003, 10:09 AM
beating drussil ro or who ever it is in the end to get out of that neverending farm cycle is beating the game.. to bad you actually cant yet =(
Haloface
08-28-2003, 11:54 AM
Look at Fandros in his big boy boots.
We didn't seem so far below the radar when your guild begged us for flags and then proceeded to train us when we shot you down like bitches.
Little. Bitches.
Damn, I'm hungry today. Bring it on.
Lleauric
08-28-2003, 12:33 PM
Haha Halo..
You share raid space with EW for the first time in 3+ years and you fall over yourself like it was highlight of your EQ time..
This entire thread was created because Taino is starting to believe his own bullshit.
Listen fuckhole... the highest flagged people in your guild are the ones who tag along with OZR (open zerg raid), whoohoo yer sure a powerhouse!
But Taino desperatly clings to the people he has despite LOTJs glacial progression through EQ with the lie that "Ya we are slower, but we will do everything they do, we just take our time to stretch our enjoyment out" I can almost hear the words coming out of this mouth..
Lol.. once people figure out its not stretching out encounters or taking your time, its the fact the only way you weaselfuckers can kill something is by waiting until its trivial and bruteforcing it, they tend to app to other guilds. Then they can see the real fun of EQ in challenging Mobs that arent meant for lvl 60 people with no AA..
You wanted someone to Bring it Halo? Well it just got broughten.
Ninotares
08-28-2003, 12:35 PM
I see taino's face too much on this thread =(.
DerryllX
08-28-2003, 12:36 PM
Kill Veeshan, end my addiction! :b
Taino brings up a good point tho, even in EQ2 from what I've seen they're gonna have a lot of the same bosses, just revamped yet again. I've already seen pics of Naggy from EQ2, whose next? on a less serious note
Kill veeshan, end my addiction!
- Vahs!
Ninotares
08-28-2003, 12:36 PM
Is "broughten" a word?
Anterak
08-28-2003, 12:52 PM
Some many lies, so much hate from someone who doesn't care about us, that's pretty sad L2 don't you think? :\
(and I don't think so Sera)
ViBeSJoKeR
08-28-2003, 12:55 PM
Is "broughten" a word?
Yes it is ...
Anterak
08-28-2003, 12:57 PM
And to go back on the "end of the game" subject, lorewise (if this has any sense for our mighty developers), the highest beings of Norrath world have been slained, but some sub deities /waves Druzzil, and Veeshan (creator of Norrath) + Nameless (creator of Universe).
So yes probably next extensions will be bring new challenges, new encounters (and maybe some hardest than Quarm himself), but is there something "above" Gods ?
I don't think so.
Lleauric
08-28-2003, 12:59 PM
Too much fun..
I love when you dopes start a thread like this.. In America.. we call this "Tee Ball"
Imagine that all EQ guilds were given some placement test (in keeping with the back to school theme) that analyzed skill and ability..
Little Billy LOTJ would be picked up every morning by a short yellow bus, and with his protective helmet firmly affixed by his chinstrap, and his drool cup readily dangling under his chin he boards the bus amid the drivers hopes that Billy doesnt shit himself again before they arrived at EQ School...
Teachers would wonder why hes still raiding at a 3rd grade level and fellow students would pelt him with spitballs... but it would be ok.. Because, one day... Billy LOTJ stole one of Johnny EWs pencils.. 'HAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHA' he would laugh to himself alone at the lunch table 'I R 733t 2!!!111oneone, cauz I Stol3z EW pencile"
Anterak
08-28-2003, 01:17 PM
It was written EW on that pencil? Damn!
Ibudin
08-28-2003, 01:24 PM
Lol L2 you crack me up..nice Sig Sam. When the hell are we going to down those Pitchers at the MineShaft!
Ibudin
SHAtrius
08-28-2003, 03:21 PM
Little Billy LOTJ would be picked up every morning by a short yellow bus, and with his protective helmet firmly affixed by his chinstrap, and his drool cup readily dangling under his chin he boards the bus amid the drivers hopes that Billy doesnt shit himself again before they arrived at EQ School...
Teachers would wonder why hes still raiding at a 3rd grade level and fellow students would pelt him with spitballs... but it would be ok.. Because, one day... Billy LOTJ stole one of Johnny EWs pencils.. 'HAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHA' he would laugh to himself alone at the lunch table 'I R 733t 2!!!111oneone, cauz I Stol3z EW pencile"
Can't....stop....laughing....
Vladius
08-28-2003, 04:50 PM
I wish I could move all you EW fucks to my old server, Tarew Marr. Time guild or not you pigfuckers wouldn't last 5 minutes.
Gerfs
08-28-2003, 05:16 PM
I wish I could move all you EW fucks to my old server, Tarew Marr. Time guild or not you pigfuckers wouldn't last 5 minutes.
HAHAAHAH
Wanna have sex?
trimlock
08-28-2003, 05:21 PM
is that like the "young wippersnapper" saying that old people use when they think people today have it so much easier?
/hug LOTJ
Why so much hate? I dont understand. I have never had any problems with anyone in LOTJ but why does it seem like you all hate LOTJ?
I mean, seriously, WHY?
Call me ignorant but I have always liked LOTJ.
Haloface
08-28-2003, 05:44 PM
LL and Fandros aren't everyone, Akie.
Although their extremely large mouths and tremendously astonishing sense of bullshit tends to lead to a dellusion of majority... they are lonely dole scum with not much else to do than bash those who actually *have fun*.
Come bash LOTJ. It gives us 5 minutes in the day to take a break and laugh. But we all know you've never seen Jokers kamikaze their way on to another's guild raid with a train of 10 mobs because they rejected the bri.. err offer of pp and items for flags.
Oh gosh. We cannot be bought by your guild's sad attempts at desperation. Whatever next!
We so obviously spend our entire time in this game trying to reach the glorious magnitude and position EW is in.
That's right. We spend our time wanting to do your mobs, get your loot, and be at your pace.
The fact that we are actually here for fun is completely lost on you. You can't even comprehend the thought that not everyone wants to be EW.
I wish, LL, that my guild could be composed of Ebayed, guild hopping, loot whoring, raid training, junior school children.
EW...setting the bar that much higher.
Hahahahaa. Oh boy, how sad.
'You share raid space with EW for the first time in 3+ years and you fall over yourself like it was highlight of your EQ time..'
- Share space? Being trained by your members because we wouldn't kiss your ass and flee from your mob isn't exactly what I'd call share. What I would call it is 'taste'. We had a 'taste' of EW. And thank GOD we are trailing behind your glorious blaze. I can't believe a guild can exist on such principals and behaviour.
'Lol.. once people figure out its not stretching out encounters or taking your time, its the fact the only way you weaselfuckers can kill something is by waiting until its trivial and bruteforcing it, they tend to app to other guilds. Then they can see the real fun of EQ in challenging Mobs that arent meant for lvl 60 people with no AA..'
- Want a tissue? I can almost picture you crying with bitterness. What's wrong.. you didn't include '3 year old content' as usual.
So let me picture your perspective LL: A guild not doing your mobs are loosers. Guilds that do things with their own numbers, in their own way, are actually just crap and can't do anything as great as EW? And because they are not in Time, their players get bored and leave for other guilds that do higher things?
Oh dear. What a scary imagination that is.
Lleauric - Representing Truth In Every Situation!
What a dick.
KiradureAtani
08-28-2003, 07:59 PM
I wish, LL, that my guild could be composed of Ebayed, guild hopping, loot whoring, raid training, junior school children.
EW...setting the bar that much higher
What was the original event that started this thread?
Oh yah, that's right. We beat Quarm. Not bad for a bunch of ebayed, guild hopping, loot whorring, raid training, junior school children.
Where is LOTJ on the food chain now? You still farming Tallon?
Oh wait, the only reason you're not doing Quarm as we speak is because you're taking it slow.
Not because you dont have the number, size, quality of players, or guild equipment level to do it.
Haloface
08-28-2003, 07:59 PM
I'd rather be farming Tallon that have a guild that resembles yours in the slightest.
KiradureAtani
08-28-2003, 08:23 PM
Thats understandable.
I wouldnt want to be in a guild full of people I enjoy being around, help me out when I need it, really know their shit, and are also at the top of the game.
KiradureAtani
08-28-2003, 08:25 PM
But wait! Thats just because I'm a loot whore, trainer, I suck at my toon, and I'm a guild hopper.... and I'm surrounded by people just like me?!?!?
<braces for another mention of the Tallon incident>
Haloface
08-28-2003, 08:41 PM
What other incident do you want mentioned?
LL seems to think EW is the holy grail.
Would guild that good act the way you did?
Me no thinks so.
LL seems to think the definition of this game is to be the best of the best - and if you're not, you're loosers who are unable to take pride or have fun in anything you do.
LL appears to think people should worship the ground you all walk on.
LL believes you shouldn't have a voice if you don't kill mobs in the Plane of Time.
LL is about as retarded as they come.
Worship my fat fucking ass.
samanusuke
08-28-2003, 08:54 PM
I wouldnt want to be in a guild full of people I enjoy being around
Amen to that! Fuck off Bohbo!! =)
Gerfs
08-28-2003, 09:00 PM
LL appears to think people should worship the ground you all walk on.
We all know that only applies to me damnit!!!
Flamecutter
08-28-2003, 09:47 PM
soooo anyway, aside from the vehement personal attacks between a few individuals I think Taino actually was congratulating ew for their accomplishment in his first post. Aside from the angst regarding the reflagging issue, I also think that was appreciated by the majority of ew members. I think he also posted a valid question as to what the future of eq is post time?
Also, no other guild has even entered time yet, let alone beat quarm. Who do you think will be next? Seems to me the race for 2nd place is a 4 way tie atm between ivm, cb, ls, sot? Seems like all are suffering issues whether it is attendence or being stalled at particular encounter. Sot beating Fennin last week puts them in the running imo although their ability to consistently field raid strength night after night may prove to be a barrier going forward?
What do you think?
Dazzler
08-28-2003, 10:12 PM
"Sot beating Fennin last week puts them in the running imo although their ability to consistently field raid strength night after night may prove to be a barrier going forward?"
This rings true for any of the guilds in the elementals. Even the great war machine of EW has suffered some setbacks. The assimilation of XA *or whatever you choose to call em* helped them reach thier goal. Kudos EW.
My personal opinion on elemental rings / events. Most of the encounters are ass. VT timesink...shit I welcome that compared to this crap. I think anyone whos done the Dust ring in POA knows what Im talking about here. It takes its toll on the most hearty of gamers, add that to the sheer burn out of playing EQ for 3+years and you have a definite recipe for retiring and folks who just tire of loggin on. Happens to the best of them. Am I concerned about seeing Potime, nope not really...at this stage in the game im just happy to hang with ppl I enjoy and killing things we can with what we have.
Lleauric
08-28-2003, 10:39 PM
More than a one line post there Halo??
What happened to the "bring it on" stance you had?
Hit a little too close to home?
>chuckle<
Haloface
08-28-2003, 11:22 PM
That's your best reply?
Oh dear oh dear. Someone's stumped.
Kein Bojangles
08-28-2003, 11:48 PM
You didn't actually say anything, Halo. You called him retarded. Oooh, impressive.
So what if he likes being in a guild thats top notch? That automatically makes him a terrible person that loathes all the smaller guilds who aren't PoT capable? Yeah.... right.
Sounds more like you're just bitter that he came in and trashed you guys for not letting them grab a couple of flags and thinking you're all "we slay3d t3h ew dragon!11!" for it.
Psychoo Kila
08-28-2003, 11:53 PM
Antarek to answer your question of "Why is it stupid to grats them for finishing the game?"
Its cause they did not finish the game, EW did not beat Quarm (from a lore point of view). the lore end of pop is one
giant empty hole. The lore can be taken many places from here.
So basicly what im saying is Taino your wrong on thinking that
killing quarm is as high as you can go in EQ (besides killing veshan or whatever).
ok let the arguing continue...
Psychoo :evil
Taino
08-29-2003, 12:04 AM
I didnt even read the whole thread since I did not intend to start an EW vs. LotJ flame here. I flamed Deecee for telling me I should die in RL.
I do not like the fact that Halo jumped on the flamebait from Fandros and LL. But I am not responsible for his words. I'd just like to mention that I am not backing him up in all his words.
One thing jumped in my eye tho...
Not because you dont have the number, size, quality of players, or guild equipment level to do it.
We do not have the numbers. We raid with around 40-55 people.
We do not have the size. We have barely 70 active members.
We do not have the equipment. We have mostly NToV, lower PoP equipment. We farmed mobs like Seru, Agnarr, Zeks and such lately, this is as high as it gets.
One main reason why we are not killing Quarn right now is because we raid 3 times a week. not more. We like it that way. We strongly stress the fact that we are not powergamers. We do not play this game to beat it all at all costs. We do try to kill as much as possible, but within our guidelines, our meaning, our reason of existance. Having fun in EQ, trying to get things done without having to be powergamers.
EW has a different approach. This is good. Cause if everyone had the same approach, we'd have a huge fight against eachother, cause everyone would be killing our mobs :)
But... Quality Players? I'd like to very very much disagree with this statement Kiradure. I am nothing but an average Joker player. I do not have the knowledge that many of my members have, because I play less. I dont know everything about all quests, about all mobs, about all zones, about all fights, about all items. But I have 250 days played on my Paladin. I play this game since more then 3 years. We have a lower number of eBayed players then most guild, I tend to believe. We are very very much looking into the quality, skills and knowledge of our applicants to ensure that we get quality players. It is a very important issue to us.
I do not say that we master things. I do not say that we're the king of the world. But it is at least our intention to get high end stuff done with as few people as possible. It is our belief that we do not want to recruit people just to kill mobs. We want to kill mobs with whatever people we have. This way we learned a lot and even if we are not a real high end guild, we get mobs killed with less people and worse equipped people then most other guilds. Again I don't say we're better then the rest. I am sure EW kills the same mobs with even less people. But at least we try hard. So I tend to disagree on the "Quality Player" part. Having unqualified people is for sure not the reason why we are not killing Quarn.
I'd like to add that I do not know EW well enough to define whether yu are a guild with many eBay players blabla and so on. What Halo said is his opinion which I do not share since I do not know how things are with you.
One last thing.
I started this thread to answer Deecee. It was not my intention to get my guild invilved in this. Nor did I even fucking mention my guild before other people involved it. Saying that I want to get publicity or toot in my own horn for my guild and get on an ego trip is compelte bullshit and if you'd be able to objectively read this thread, you'd see it clearly.
The fact that I hardly ever post on this forum (besides in this thread now), the fact that I don't even have my guild name, link or magelo in my signature.. just those things should be evidence enough that I do not give a flying fuck about bragging on this forum about my guild, or about getting my guild on this forum.
I do consider our reputation to be important. I do like to get along with all people. But I prefer getting this done by talking to people, having personal contact, being friendly to everyone that is friendly to me, and I do not believe that I need to come to this forum talking big to do so.
I prefer letting actions speak for my guild. Not posts on ARo.
And I do not believe that, out of a gameplay point of view, you have a lot of stuff to argue with me about my guild.
trimlock
08-29-2003, 01:14 AM
you know taino, i think DC was talking to Anterak, since she said
"BTW, Please stop saying grats on FINISHING EQ. you sound really stupid and should die in a ditch with a car on top of you in the rain. "
and Anterak said..
"Grats EW for finishing this damn game!! "
and you said..
"Congratulations EW On winning EQ."
i don't think DC ment she really wanted Anterak to die, some people post with extreme sarcasm. All in all i don't agree for the wishing to die, for me personally my stance on that view changed during my Jr. year of high school when i used to make fun of my science teacher (he was really strict and usually not as "cool" as the rest) and he died on an anuerism(sp?) ... made me feel bad, made alot of people feel bad. But doesn't mean DC is trying to wish bad things, sometimes when people post in that manner they don't even think of the event =/
Lleauric
08-29-2003, 02:27 AM
Ok.
I want to warn everyone.. Things are going to happen in this post that may shock you.. turn your world upside down and make you question all that you have ever seen in your lives.. you may lose control of your bowels.. or run screaming into the night..
But I want you to know.. its gonna be aight. We are gonna get through this.. Me and you.. Us.. together.. as we always have. Now take my hand and breath in deeply and prepare yourself. This is not a sign of the Apocolypse, there will be no wailing nor will there be any gnashing of teeth.
Planets are more likely to align in some harmonic convergance, Bush and Saddam are more likely to spend an idyllic weekend in the Poconos, and Paul Proudhome more liable to start tailback for the Browns (although it may be an improvement) than what is about to happen..
But I guess it was a mathematical eventuality.. had to happen sooner or later. Its just our bad luck it had to happen in our lifetimes..
Ok.. >deep Breath<
Taino you're right.
There.. I said it.. its out..
I know right now many peoples world is in utter disarray... nothing makes sense.. Planets are colliding..Cats are sleeping with Dogs, Black is white and white is a meatball grinder, it was a lot to take all at once.. maybe we need a little break..
Go take a few minutes... walk around your home, sort things out.. I normally dont advocate drug use.. but smoke a joint if thats your thing..
Go ahead..
Im serious.. Ill wait...
Ok.. back?
Good.. Now, call some of your friends who may have read this thread.. they may be in a bad place.. lying in fetal position softy chanting.. "Make the bad man stop with the crazy talk"..
Tell them its ok.. they can come back.. they need you right now... be there for them.
Youve always been the stronger one.
Fact is Taino.. I actually have a lot of respect for what you have going with LOTJ, its one of the oldest guilds on the server.. How many people can keep a successful guild going as long as you have? Drizzen, Gandien,.. thats not a lot.. and its a lot of hard work and effort, and I respect that..
So why did I flame it so hard? Well, simply Halo asked for it..
And I know how to get turn Halo into a lip quivering mess... cause how he feels about LOTJ is how I feel about EW..
People like Halo are why guilds last.. its the loyalty in what was built and a belief in the person who created it.
So was it nice that I attacked it so brutally?
No..
But maybe you havent noticed.. Im not an overly sensitive person.
If Halo was in EW (the words like bile in my mind) he would be the same way as any of us.. as Fanny or Me.. Proud loyal, defending the people we love, attacking when we are attacked.
Oh and as far as XA people and EW people.. stop being idiots..
I was in a guild called Heroes of Faydwer once.. Fanny was in NC, others were in Valoran or Greyhawke.. should they thank them too?
Many rivers flow into the Mississippi. Its still the fucking Mississippi.
Once the waters from the Colorado or Red hit it.. they dont stay what they were..
They are EW now..
PS Fanny.. Fuck em all but Six
Kialya
08-29-2003, 04:20 AM
/wipes a tear .. proud of L2 and EW
Bylimet Spiritwalker
08-29-2003, 05:11 AM
Now that was a post worthy of respect!
zenrkscallytail
08-29-2003, 06:34 AM
halo ( taino (
sad euro faces ((
remeber dont hate people just because they are better then you.
you can allways blame your country!
Mondhur Trueoak
08-29-2003, 06:53 AM
Hi!
Oh wait, the only reason you're not doing Quarm as we speak is because you're taking it slow.
I would love to farm Quarm for phats, but that's as high in my list as spending a cool day in ChardokB or Plane of Hate or just farm some more tradeskill materials. :)
I admire EW for doing such a great things but right now I like better what I do now. If that means I'm pathetic looser TZ farmer then let it be. :p
Fun is all that matters...
ThePerfectFlaw
08-29-2003, 06:55 AM
If I have fun training you, is that kosher then? =p
Mondhur Trueoak
08-29-2003, 07:03 AM
Hi!
You are too funny Zehn. Or you just think you are funny.
I let you decide it.
Taino
08-29-2003, 08:37 AM
Nice posting LL.
And I (oh hell.. wtf) agree with your basic statement. Halo is one of the reasons why my guild still exists. Now ok besides the fact he drove dozens of members completely crazy so they left, besides the fact we have several members in psychiatric institutes where they seem very timid and snap when you move fast... people like him are one of the reasons why this guild still exists.
But... I as GUildleader have to make sure things are always being handled fairly. I do not intend to have guildfights and so on and I have a responsability over my guild. I can't just start fights with anyone.
I'm very honest and open. I will never hide what I think. That's why I mostly earn flames when I post on this forum. Flames are fine. Its fun sometimes. That Deecee flame didn't like... hurt me. I just thought that was such an insane bullshit she said that I have to start a flame about it.
What I don't like is to involve guilds. I don't judge "Guilds". I judge people. When EW kills Quarn, then they killed the thing as a guild. But when I get trained from one of your members, then I really dislike one of our members, and not your whole guild. Which is also why I posted above that "half of your guild thinks I'm a fucking asshole". Becuase this is the attitude I get from your guild. But still I don't judge your whole guild. Cause I dunno. And I don't like guildwars anyways and so on blabla.
God I shouldn't post before I had my morning coffee.
Bye. :x
Haloface
08-29-2003, 10:58 AM
Oh LL, you plonker.
I know your true intentions, anything we post here is just fun to piss eachother off.
As always, as it always will be.
Didn't really read the whole thing but I d just like to fix 2 things :
1 L2 speak for himself and not for EW. Just a small thing but its important to note.
2 EW doesn't hate LoTJ. Actually we don't hate anyone and xept the FD/RiP deal I d dare to say the server's politics have been great lately. The only thing that will actually happens is that if LoTJ need a reflag one day or need a mob and we actually need it too, most likely they ll be told to fuck off. But thats only fair. Other than that no hate really.
Joe Dalton2
08-29-2003, 12:47 PM
taino wrote
: As said above, Verant could buff Empereor Crush up so he quads for 10k, but still he's just Emperor Crush. And EW just killed all the gods there are. And the gods are the highest beings there are, besides Veeshan. So you can't get any "higher". :
i didnt check if it had been mentioned yet but there still is something above these gods... read the EQ tales to find out if you dont know
other then that... EW kicks ass
have pleasant day
Joe Dalton
Soultics
08-29-2003, 01:42 PM
:(
Haloface
08-29-2003, 03:23 PM
'The only thing that will actually happens is that if LoTJ need a reflag one day or need a mob and we actually need it too, most likely they ll be told to fuck off. But thats only fair. Other than that no hate really. '
- No, first you'll try to buy us with pp and items, then you'll train us.
Where-as we'd just leave you to it because we actually have a player base of age 20 and above.
I'm not here to kiss anyone's ass.
Grift3r
08-29-2003, 04:22 PM
Warms my heart to see a good flame thread deteriorate into a group hug. /sarcasm off
Come on folks! Trolls like myself don't read these boards to see agreement and apologies!! Flame! Flame! =)
Haloface
08-29-2003, 04:59 PM
Fuck off! Fuck off?
Kialya
08-29-2003, 05:39 PM
Where-as we'd just leave you to it because we actually have a player base of age 20 and above.
I'm over 30 :( does that count?
Boneskin
08-29-2003, 09:37 PM
I found the whole thing hilarious considering all the smack you guys talked about how great your countries socialistic philosophies embody the ideology of helping people out but you refuse to minorly inconvenience your self to help out 80 people that were unable to do anything (and i mean anything until we got that flag). got to love people that talk the talk but dont walk the walk. thats why i dislike u taino (doesnt mean i hate u or wish harm on you), at least some people on these boards aknowledge the fact that they are assholes. doesnt mean i like it, but at least i can respect that instead of this pidly bullshit where u try to sound all high and mighty and smart and try and earn respect through words rather than you actions. and yes i know what im talking about, ive been there done that and occasionally slip into hipocracy as well today myself.
Taino
08-29-2003, 09:48 PM
Fun how you compare not letting people starve, giving people a place to sleep with letting EW kill a mob.
Any other hilarious comparsions around?
Seriously!
See it that way, our companies also try to get customers. And there is no company saying "Oh take this customer, it might help you and we step back" with us. That's bullshit.
You really have no clue what you talk about. Killing a mob in EQ is not really the same deal as letting people starve and not giving your homeless a place to sleep.
In RL relations, what you said is that Apple should step back on a 100 Million dollar deal because Microsoft wants it, really wants it. Do you think Apple would step back? no they would take that deal because a) they want it and b) Microsoft got a shiload of more money c) they were first and MS will get the next 100 million deal anyways.
This is more appropriate of a comparsion in this situation. /slap
ThePerfectFlaw
08-29-2003, 09:52 PM
I'm over 20 and my idea of a fun afternoon involves training druids and other people in my favorite camp spots. 8/
Haloface
08-29-2003, 10:56 PM
Boneskin, could you perhaps repeat your post in some comprehendible way?
At least give me the chance to tear you a new one.
Sheesh.
Karmon Shadowstalker
08-29-2003, 11:02 PM
Training can be exceedingly fun, and quite enjoyable if done properly.
Don't knock it till you try it. Alot.
I recommend BOT as a starters area.
Boneskin
08-29-2003, 11:54 PM
sorry. didnt mean to use big words halo. and no. im not in anyway saying that something in a video game compares to RL suffering. was just saying i wasnt pissed, just amused at the irony of Taino's words vs. his actions. now i dont understand what hes saying in his last post. Let's just say that the government (sony GMs [im using what is called a metaphor if your dense mind can imagine that]) forced lotj to let EW kill TZ because it was causing them not to be able to do anything that they would want to do. Do you believe it should be the governments job to force people to do nice things or do u think its up to the individuals to do nice things? i personally think Taino had absolutely every right to say "we want this mob so we are going to take it".
was just pointing out some strange contradictions and amusing myself. sorry if u dont have the capacity to understand irony.
Blazemas
08-30-2003, 12:42 AM
Damn you for making me semi defend Halo...
I only saw one big word in your post... you spelled it wrong.
hypocrisy
Blaze
Taino
08-30-2003, 01:23 AM
But you compare a video game with the essential needs of a human being.
Get that in your head.
You do not NEED to kill Tallon Zek.
But you NEED to have food and a place to sleep.
This is why the government doesnt give a shit who kills Tallon Zek, but our government for sure does care that noone starves and everyone has a bed to sleep in. THIS is the difference, Sir.
Nag Lurker
08-30-2003, 02:44 AM
Boneskin and halo are both morons, lets just leave it at that and let this thread die. Oh but, zenrk is the biggest idiot this board has ever seen. Have a nice day :)
trimlock
08-30-2003, 03:44 AM
i'll never forget the time zehn was pl'ing my alt on spec's in oasis, and this ranger comes along and starts to KS our specs, so zehn trains him, kills him, proceeds to tell him why he deserved to be trained regardless of his KS'ing...
such good memories
i think that was at like 4am
DiscW
08-30-2003, 08:31 AM
Was going to respond to the L2 stuff.... but nah.
Anyways
As said above, Verant could buff Empereor Crush up so he quads for 10k, but still he's just Emperor Crush. And EW just killed all the gods there are. And the gods are the highest beings there are, besides Veeshan. So you can't get any "higher".
Well, first there's the fact that a Uber crushbone would kick ass, had to get that out of the way.
But, there is most definitely places Everquest can go from here, as I said before.
Firstly, Plane of time isn't the "end" of the storyline. If I remember right, you actually go back in time when you zone into the zone, back when the gods were trapping Zeb(no way I'm spelling that name out). And because they were trying to contain him, they specifically state that they are in a weakened... state. So, the gods that are faced in PoT aren't anywhere near the "true gods". Just like how the Cazic in the Plane of Fear is far less of the Real Cazic Thule as the one in Plane of Time. I remember the dev's saying something like this too, explaining why gods repop and why some are so much stronger then others when it doesn't make sense storyline wise(tunare in velious compared to cazic and inny in their original planes).
Then there's the interesting thing about Plane of time. Now, I'm not the best at explaining time travel, so I apologize in advance if this isn't to clear:
In the storyline of Everquest, the killing of the weakened gods and quarm by mortals, technically never happened.
When Zeb is freed, Druzzil Ro comes in and basically goes "Shit, this isn't good, so I'm sending you back to where you came from, and reverting this timeline back to before you came! *POOF*" So, other then the loot and memories(since she ports you back to your time before reverting "plane of time", for whatever reason), its as if no even entered the Plane of Time. It is a horrible, horrible waste of the zone, but that's how it is.
Sooo, players still haven't killed the current day, fully powered gods, and thanks to Druzzil's intervention, they were never killed.
And plus, there's the whole darkness thing that Druzzil Ro talks about, is her reason for reverting time, and is even talked about in prologues to PoP. That's bound to lead to something. We still don't know what Zeb wanted to tell everyone, which was the reason he was imprisoned.
And now I'll just throw out other ideas for things which would be above and beyond what has been done with the EQ story. Some more out there, some which have basis in the current game.
A rip off of the underdark, which in its deepest depths has ancient demons from the initial creation of Norrath(Hi balrog from lord of the rings). Another Uber offshoot of the combine could be down there too maybe.
Anything involving the current day gods. Some war between gods or whatnot.
Aliens(stupid idea, but an idea)
I'm a gnome at heart, so anything involving uber Clockworks! Anyone remember the rumored clockwork dragon under Ak'Anon? :b
All sorts of crazy stuff could be done with Kerafyrm and his story. "Sleeper's Two, he's back and he's pissed!" Remember his power is supposed to possibly rival veeshan's.
Here's a pipe dream for ya. I'm pretty much gonna make this up as I go, but its an example of what could be done:
It ends up our friend Kerafyrm still kinda holds a grudge against all dragonkind due to the whole being imprisoned for all eternity thing. So he goes off to fight the big dragon herself, veeshan. And he succeeds, enslaving her, and taking over her position as the head honcho dragon. All sorts of mayhem ensues. And since he's still really pissed(and he's crazy), he decides that's not enough, and plans an extermination of every dragon in the land of norrath. So, now most of the dragons on norrath have been killed. The last few remaining members of the Ring of Scale have a secret meeting, and decide to go with a last ditch desperate plan. They let Vox and Naggy screw(they were imprisoned while the sleeper was sleeping, so he doesn't know about them), creating a second Kerafyrm. Massive war between the 1st Kerafyrm and the new kerafyrm ensues. Players and even gods could take sides and whatnot. I'll let your imagination take it from here.
Sooo... it'd never happen, and probably isn't the best storyline, but I'm just using it as an example that of what could happen using the EQ storyline and fit in the EQ world.
And oh yeah, in everquest Two, luclin has gone boom. Something pretty big has to happen to cause that.
What do I think the real "end" of everquest would be? The destruction of the Nameless, thus negating all existence.
This what I love about open ended games like this. Back before I became jaded to the game, I used to think of what COULD happen or even be happening with the game all the time, thinking up crazy stuff like a clockwork dungeon under Ak'Anon, or the story I came up with about the sleeper, and it would give me a sense of awe. MMORPG's can just keep getting deeper and deeper, if the developers decide to do so.
Its really late, this was about 10 times as long as I had planned (sorries), and I'm getting nostalgic. So, g'night.
Lazrious
08-30-2003, 09:18 AM
"Sleeper's Two, he's back and he's pissed!"
rofl!
Haloface
08-30-2003, 06:31 PM
'Damn you for making me semi defend Halo...'
- Sorry sir :(
'Nag Lurker
Boneskin and halo are both morons, lets just leave it at that and let this thread die. '
- Was I just flamed by an Anon someone?
Oh my.
Tierfin
08-30-2003, 06:35 PM
kerafrym was already fucked up, according to "storyline", after he was freed, he went and killed all the other dragons on norrath, all the other dragons on all the other planets veeshan had them, and then he went after veeshan, this time when they fought she could not defeat him so she asked for all the powers from the other gods, they all granted her wish, they fight and both kill each other and all the gods lose their powers. this is when Everquest 2 would have started...except they obviously fucked everything up from here one
one possiblity is that the darkness is "the nameless", no one is sure if its a god or a place really...in the kerafrym/veeshan story a part says that they fought in the nameless, ive read somewhere else that the nameles finishes the fight, i dont know...but its probably something to do with THE NAMELESS!~
Fandros
08-30-2003, 07:08 PM
/nod L2
All but the 6....
I give Taino a hard time here on the boards. In game however we've always been cordial to one another.
Just irked me seeing him puff himself up as some sort of great EW hate object when it's simply not true.
As Kinu said, server politics at this end of the game are pretty stellar atm. No hate generated by any means.
Fandros
Taino
08-31-2003, 01:55 AM
Well, then its only good. What I have personally noticed was some sort of hatred from EW side after this "incident". Which lead me to the conclusion that I was generally simply hated or at least disliked by the guild. I found that pretty weak. No I didn't think you were like.. wasting time on this issue.
I just didn't think that this incident would be worth disliking someone. It was a fair thing. Not overly nice, but we simply went for the mob we already started going for, thats all. We also didn't go for it to piss you off, we went for it since it was the only mob that was up for us.
Well... seems like we cleared the up then.
*walks off*
Haloface
08-31-2003, 02:01 AM
Cleared it up?
They trained us and gave us shit. And THEN acted as if we were somehow in the wrong.
Isn't cleared up to me. But whatever.
No one trained you dipshit, stop making stuff up. Listen to your guildleader like the good monkey you are and kindly shut the fuck up.
Blazemas
08-31-2003, 07:31 AM
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Blaze
Haloface
08-31-2003, 12:05 PM
'No one trained you dipshit, stop making stuff up. Listen to your guildleader like the good monkey you are and kindly shut the fuck up. '
- Hey, french bitch, shut your fucking mouth and sit the fuck down. No one wants to hear you in the slightest with your typos coming out of your fucking ass so much that no one knows if you're commenting on the weather or describing the hot night of passion you just spent with a goat.
Two people under an Eternal Wrath tag trained us. Want the definition of trained you fucking fraggle? Aggroing mobs with the intention of relieving them on to an unsuspecting party. Look it up in the Dictionary for People Who Are Not Completely Retarded - or ask Beowuulf.
I'll tell you the next time you can make yourself remotely heard. Until then, can it, and sit down bitch.
Doh my typos.
Va te faire enculer fils de pute, si quelqu'un d' EW avait train ta guilde vous seriez mort problablement, quand on train c'est pas un PNJ ou 2 pauvre con. Mon anglais n'est peut être pas parfait mais je suis pas un pauvre pédé qui passe son temps sur le forum Ã* jouer les gros bras alors qu'il n'est qu'une petite brele qui rame sur EQ.
Now go fuck yourself retard.
see no typo in french justin!
Third post just say I m not posting under this thread anymore, been a long time since I lowered myself to halofuck level. Always good once every 2/3 months :)
Haloface
08-31-2003, 01:31 PM
Halofuck?
Wow. Did you just own me?
Taino
08-31-2003, 01:59 PM
Kinu, en fait al train d'une personne de EW nous a elimine. On a succede de logger un cleric allors le CR n'etait pas un probleme, mais... oui, le train nous a donne un wipe.
Pour moi personellement.. c'etait une personne, pas deux et je ne suis pas tout a fait sure si c'etait fait "on purpose". Mais c'est un fait qu'une personne de EW est couru du zone in jus'que notre raid et il est creve exactement sur mes pieds... et il avait 10+ mobs avec lui :)
Et... uhh ignore Haloface. Il a eu une mauvause journee, je pense... /shrug
Haloface
08-31-2003, 02:31 PM
Or let's ignore the fact that they were in the wrong.
Right.
Taino
08-31-2003, 02:43 PM
I dont ignore it. I just find it pretty fucking stupid to make a big deal out of a one time event where one member of EW ran to us and killed us. This
a) was one person
b) is a good while ago
c) isn't fucking worth a flame
I just believe that for gods sake... do we really need to have flames and shit about such a thing? I prefer much more getting along with people then to try hard to make enemies.
They were in the wrong, we were egoistic. Can see it both ways. After all, it doesn't matter anymore, does it?
I am glad several EW people spoke up in this thread in a quite peaceful way. We can all be kind to eachother and just have a good time or we can give much efforts into starting hatred. Pick one.
Haloface
08-31-2003, 02:58 PM
For one, log in and join the raid you swiss git.
It..
A) Wasn't one person
B) Wasn't that long ago
C) A flame is always worthwhile
The only EW people that spoke up in this thread bashed us, with the exception of one who bashed us, and then kissed our asses in an attempt to not make himself look like such a fool.
The other one started going all french on us, and a few more just giggled in a corner like school girls.
Come on. I'm having fun.
Taino
08-31-2003, 03:04 PM
It WAS one person, it was like 6 weeks ago, we already talked about it with EW and no, the EW members didn't just flame us. Geez...
*bitchslaps Halo*
Logg in, slut. We got a raid.
Xregg
08-31-2003, 03:20 PM
Taino and halo just shut the fuck up already.
Your holding on to that incident where you took an easy ass spawn from EW like it was the highlight of your EQ playtime. I am fucking overjoyed they trained you. I wish they would do it to you more often.
I took a small break from the ay ro boards only to come back and read you pussys going on and on and on just like always. How fucking annoying can you be and still consider yourself a man.
As far as the heading goes you should die. I would like that. I would like it even better if a member from EW killed you. It would actually be good for your guildmates if you both died a slow fucking death. At least then they might get some respect from their peers on Ayonae Ro since they wouldnt have a jerk off pink scumbag as their leader. I still dont know how your guys can follow you around. I would be embarrassed. Landslide could use the members that you do have that know their shit.
Xregg
Haloface
08-31-2003, 03:42 PM
Hey it's the guild hopping dipshit!
How's it going, guild hopping dipshit? CB kicked you out yet? What am I talking about. You probably fit right in.
'where you took an easy ass spawn from EW'
- Yes, being there an hour before them and buffing up to engage while no one else is in the zone, and then declining a bribe of pp and items to let them take the spawn *IS* the very definition of taking a spawn from them
Your intelligence and genius NEVER, EVER cease to amaze me.
Incredible.
Can I touch you? PLZ?!
Xregg
08-31-2003, 03:58 PM
Halo you really should stand down from Lotj. Let those poor guys progress and gain some respect.
You should have taken the items and pp and did a major player on this server a huge solid. Maybe in 3 years or so if (huge if) you ever get to the elemental planes they might have returned the favor. Instead now you will just get a mouth full of boot.
Im curious was Lotj the only guild you have ever been in?
Xregg
Taino
08-31-2003, 04:29 PM
You crack me up Xregg.
Your post was just the biggest bullshit I read in a very long time...
So much hate... you really need a hug.
*hug*
Xregg
08-31-2003, 04:34 PM
No bs here pal i speak only the truth :)
Xregg
Haloface
08-31-2003, 05:21 PM
I was also in Gnoll Slayers and Gnoll Busters.
Anything else?
Haloface
08-31-2003, 05:50 PM
We're not all uber guild monkeys like youreself Xregg.
OH NOS I DIDN'T DO WHAT THEY SAID, LIFE IS SO HARD NOW! OH NOZ XREGG!!1
Shortyrez Starfury
08-31-2003, 06:09 PM
I wish someone could explain to me what you lose by letting a couple EWs get flags.
Haloface
08-31-2003, 06:38 PM
The respect of our members for breaking our own rules?
And don't reply with a 'thats a stupid rule'. I really couldn't give a toss, because you're not in our guild.
Fact is we have the rule, and we're not going to go back on it and contradict our principles and rules simply because an Uber guild demands it.
No way. No how.
Cry me a river now.
Shortyrez Starfury
08-31-2003, 09:55 PM
You misunderstood. I'm simply curious why the rule exists in the first place. Every other guild allows tag alongs in exchange for future flagging for their own members as well. It simply benefits you to allow it if you plan on working towards elemental zones.
Xregg
08-31-2003, 09:59 PM
They havnt been able to figure that out yet Shorty.
I mean there is only so far being Landslides underlings will get ya. :)
Xregg
Xregg
08-31-2003, 10:02 PM
Of course they could be under the impression that elemental planes would be to much of a time sink and maybe pass it by like Emp and VT. Praying that maybe Ldon will be easier and more accessible with better loot.
Xregg
Haloface
08-31-2003, 11:38 PM
It is almost frightening how much you seem to worry and care for us Xregg.
But it's OK big guy. We'll do fine. Like we have in the past. But I think I can speak for all Jokers when I say /hug, thanks for caring.
And sorry for taking your question a tad hostile-like Shorty. I'll explain a bit about the rule, if you're actually that interested (god knows why you are). It never used to exist. A good while ago (year or so) we used to allow guests on raids no problem. And then we had a string of incidents that ended up in a hard time for us. Some included guests training Vindi on our clerics on a Kael raid, and another where we allowed a warrior to tank for us on a raid, who actually ended up fleeing for his life when things got messy, leading the mob in question to wipe us. After a while we got sick of guests. We found it much more satisfying and enjoyable when we worked alone, as a guild, how it was intended. When PoP was released, we found that an overwhelming amount of people always wished to tag along, purely for flags. For us, it was odd. We were fighting mobs with 40 Jokers, and about 10 guests. How can you kill something like that and claim 'My guild killed it'. Not really. So we decided to make a rule that on all guildfirst kills, no guests would be allowed. This was to beable to say 'We killed this mob, not with any help or anyone else. But Jokers did it.' Gradually guests became a huge hassle and a pain, always having leachers and moochers begging for flags. It got to the point where raid leaders and officers were so overwhelmed with fucking flaggers and guest tells that we were unable to focus properly. Anywho, not to get sidetracked, but then we decided as a guild that enough was enough and we just would politely decline anyone who asked to join us. We like to raid as Jokers, not as Jokers and co. We work better on our own and with lower numbers, and guests were nothing but hassles. Of course when you decided this, you can't begin to let a few people join 'just cause'. We created the rule, and we have to stick by it. As harsh as it seems.
Even when the resident uber guild offers you a shitload of cash and more.
Maybe that'll clear it up for you.
We're not assholes out to reject people flags because it turns us on. Although I'm sure that's what Xregg likes to believe.
*big hug Xregg*!
Shortyrez Starfury
08-31-2003, 11:52 PM
Well that's cool, I can understand idiots tagging along and not knowing how to behave, though I would *hope* you wouldn't run into that with people from guilds needing flags, heh. I was mainly curious because I know one or two guilds on our server started with that policy and quickly changed after realizing backflagging would be a nightmare. I didn't know of any other guilds that had similar policies, but I figured there was a history of retards joining raids and fucking them up. Been there, done that, heh.
Kialya
09-01-2003, 05:50 AM
Even when the resident uber guild offers you a shitload of cash and more.
Ok, I am honestly not here to stir up badwill but I was under the impression that the jokers were offered money ONLY becuase they had accepted cash in the past for flags once or ?maybe? twice. That being the case, I was one of those flag leeches on that day trying to get a flag with the Jokers. I sent a few direct tells directly to Taino, was told no, he explained why and that was that. Although disapointed at the time, I never sent flames to anyone or trained the Jokers, nor did the few EW who were with me at the zoneline. Just so you know why the Jokers were offered money (because you had done so in the past on at least one occasion). And that money was not the guild's funds, it was our toons, just to clarify that.
It all worked out in the end, we got the flags at a later date. No big deal.
Taino
09-01-2003, 08:55 AM
Yes, at one time, one person offered 30k for an AD flag.
Well, we accepted that. We found that nice becuase our guild doesn't have a lot of cash. We generally don't buy and sell. If you see Jokers buying or selling, its personal things, not guild items.
So anyways, yes we took money there and from that moment I always said "30k for the flag and you're in". This worked because noone payed it. Some were pissed, some offended and so on. We did not have this "no guests in NO WAY" Rule yet. We just had a "just very very few guests please" Rule.
But this didn't work. You know at the end you still flag some people and don't flag others. This causes shit.
Look back at the EW incident.
We had a flagging deal with Landslide back then. We flag them, they give us runes. That was back when we needed runes still. So when EW asked for flags I said that we don't flag anyone. Immediately I got flamed and insulted by like 10 people, even good friends of mine, which never talked to me anymore after this (/wave Caeralee). This all just because I said we dont flag anyone, but had this LS deal. Geez.
So well after all this, we decided as a guild that we dont flag anyone at no time undedr no circumstances! Because we always just got shit from everyone. EVery single flagging mob I got insulted and flamed, I got 40+ tells from 40+ people asking for flags when we did AD or Grummus.. imagine this. 40 people asking for a fucking flag when you are trying to set up a raid. /ooc No I won't flag you. /afk No I won't flag you!
And when I did this.. I got flamed and insulted.
Since we got this "no guests, no flags whatsoever" policy... guess what? Noone sends me tells, noone asks for flags, noone insults me, noone harasses me, noone stirrs up shit in ooc.. hell its great!
This is why we don't let guests in.
Besides being trained and wiped by guests a good dozen of times the past years.
Hubbe
09-01-2003, 12:18 PM
Xregg stfu and go back to your bikes.
Hubbe
LotJ
Hubbe
09-01-2003, 12:23 PM
And that was me speaking as Hubbe the LotJ member,
now as Hubbe the Admin
Death threats and the like are not cool, dont want to hear any more of that. Thank you.
Haloface
09-01-2003, 12:25 PM
Hubbe just owned Xregg in 8 words!
Lleauric
09-01-2003, 12:36 PM
death threat?
Oh come on... get a grip.. "Taino" dies 15-20 times a night raiding..
Saying "you should die" is not a death threat..
Saying.. "Im gonna track you down and fucking kill you" is.
Lets at least have some portion of common sense here..
Xregg
09-01-2003, 01:17 PM
Death threats? You been smoking weed again Hubbe?
Xregg
Hubbe
09-01-2003, 01:20 PM
As far as the heading goes you should die. I would like that. I would like it even better if a member from EW killed you. It would actually be good for your guildmates if you both died a slow fucking death. At least then they might get some respect from their peers on Ayonae Ro since they wouldnt have a jerk off pink scumbag as their leader.
Lleauaric it was in regards to the context of him dying IRL.. Therefor I also used the words "and the like" since it was not a direct threat.
I realise that some of my views about this message board arent gladly looked upon by some of our more heavy posters with the "messageboard warrior approach" that flame all and everyone, but personally, I hope that ayonae.ro can be a forum for even the more posting timid members of our server community, you know.. the once that actually are offended by the stuff most Naggers view as polite greeting phrases after posting here for a few months. =)
Hubbe
09-01-2003, 01:22 PM
And for the record, I die alot more than Taino, which is still considerably less than 10 times a night raiding.
Haloface
09-01-2003, 03:08 PM
Putting LoTJ in your sig Hubbe is going to get you roasted around here :P
DaltenEQ
09-01-2003, 06:51 PM
No just being an utter dumbass will as you know more than well enough.
Some good people in LoTJ, i doubt many hate the actual guild.
trimlock
09-01-2003, 06:55 PM
your stupid dalt
Haloface
09-01-2003, 08:05 PM
'No just being an utter dumbass will as you know more than well enough. '
- Trained anyone lately?
The server says - most likely.
Tierfin
09-01-2003, 09:05 PM
i thought he quit rofl
DaltenEQ
09-01-2003, 11:25 PM
Last I checked when I train people they dont know who did it!
p.s. The person your referring to wasn't even an app at the time. And if your wondering, he got some yes votes for posting a pic of you and taino in the spoon position. It was cute albeit a little disturbing in its own right and the half elf dildo helm was a nice bonus to the quality of the image, giving it that authentic touch.
Now, if anyone's looking to apply to EW in the coming months, you know how to cut off a good month of being a recruit, now dontcha?
Shewdogg
09-02-2003, 03:40 AM
Now, if anyone's looking to apply to EW in the coming months, you know how to cut off a good month of being a recruit, now dontcha?
Say you were in XA?
Taino
09-02-2003, 07:29 AM
He payed a lot of cash for them pics Dalten. Think about it.
Hubbe
09-02-2003, 11:15 AM
No he was not in XA
Greystone Thorngage
09-02-2003, 01:02 PM
how did this go from a complaint to the Taino and Haloface, our cocks are bigger than all of yours, thread
Hubbe
09-02-2003, 01:12 PM
because their dicks are bigger.. as an admin with their cocks down my throat i should know...
or at least thats what ive heard I know and suck their peens according to anon trolls..
Kialya
09-02-2003, 01:35 PM
wow Greystone, love the new sig!
ciniel
09-02-2003, 02:23 PM
Death to the Eurotrash! Burn them all, friggin' timezone exploiting bishes!
Hubbe
09-02-2003, 02:45 PM
Hej.. saknar dig med älskling =(
pöss
Haloface
09-02-2003, 04:01 PM
'Say you were in XA? '
- Supersized ownage there.
Shewdogg
09-02-2003, 05:01 PM
Glad someone got it Halo :)
Gerfs
09-02-2003, 06:13 PM
was in a guild called Heroes of Faydwer once
Ahh the good ole days!!! I miss that guild....
And Halo Can I be Brittney to your Justin!!! You are just so much pwn and im back here laughing like a school girl!!
Taino
09-03-2003, 11:29 AM
Oh my god its Ciniel!!!!!!!!!!!
:eek
/spanks her and runs off
Sharookan
09-03-2003, 01:18 PM
I wish someone could explain to me what you lose by letting a couple EWs get flags.
it just feels good when you been fucked up your whole life and now have the chance to return the favour ;)
kids are like that
sharookan
Taino
09-03-2003, 02:49 PM
I don't recall when we got fucked by EW actually.
But hey, thanks for your input :)
Haloface
09-03-2003, 04:23 PM
Let me explain it to you Taino.
Because we didn't give the most ubereset guild ever what they wanted, our entire lives - which evolve around being uber and uber guilds - has been completely destroyed.
Duh, it's so obvious. Liek, omg.
Taino
09-03-2003, 05:51 PM
Oh that was it! Thanks :)
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