Silentcerri

As some of the community knows I work for a school district in Texas. I do Technology grant research, network security, and other assigned task (I wish I could get that line out of my contract) Anyways our district is a Charter school district (we are a public school alternative from the traditional public school) and comprised of 3 high schools and 1 virtual high school.

On 9/11 I was asked to speak to some of the kids about the loss I had on that day of some very close friends who died that day. I accepted and for the most part the kids listened and then we talked about what it meant to them.

The Principal after I am done stands up and request we say the Pledge of Allegiance and all are complying. Now half way through the pledge a child i have no other way to describe him stood up and shouted FUCK AMERICAN and then started condemning our nation, the laws of our nation, and just being rude and vulgar. When asked to be quiet he kept up the profanity and was getting to be for a lack of a term a belligerent shit head.

The kid got a ticket from one of the sheriff deputies we hire to do security at our school for disruption and profanity that offended a teacher as in all the cussing he did. The district suspended him for 3 days due to his disruptive behavior and for cussing out the staff members. At no time was the actions taken against him because he said fuck America but cause he yelled fuck and a few other profanities.

Now his parents are trying to say that we were oppressing the child and are being idiots. People at work are afraid they will say we were trying to force our beliefs on the child. It is now a State Law in Texas that all school children must say the Pledge and the Texas Pledge every morning and that if a student does not wish they do not have to. Do you think we at the school acted correctly or not on this and what would you have done.

Now on a personal note in the teachers lounge that day boy I felt sorry for that kid hehe his ears must have been burning from what they were saying. The best idea of the day was to tattoo with the American flag and put Yes I am an American and I love America in tattoos on him and drop him some Arab country that hates Americans and see if he still thinks Fuck America. My idea was that he needs to sit down with every family that lost someone on 9 11 and to sit down with every person wounded so far in the war on terror and then to sit down with the families of those that gave their lives so he can stand up and say Fuck America and see if he feels the same. If he does then I said deport his ass with the tattoos and see how long he last.


/salute all who have passed to make the world a safer place and to those in not so safe area's defending my freedom to babble on this board thank you

ThePerfectFlaw

His right or not, the kid was being an insensitive jackass. There's a time and place for everything, and that wasn't it.

Tierfin

ytrok prolly sent one of his kids to cause a disruption.

MarzMartini

That kid should get the Taino (R) award for making trouble.

Carabella Valenteen

Just because it was political does not give him the right to totally disrupt things. Had it been an assembly on teenage violence and a kid did that, or a magazine sales assembly, the punishment would have also been the same.

Well done, in my opinion.

Taino

I completely agree with you.
Oh and fuck you, Marz.

Tierfin

I completely agree with you.
Oh and fuck you, Tainto.

Baloghdarogue

I don’t get this sentence seems to be a contradiction.
There is a law that say's you must say the pledge, yet if you don’t want to you don't have to???
Doesn't make sense, I think you mistyped something.

That's only normal IMO.

This however is a huge problem IMO.
The kid disagrees with the normal standard and expresses these feelings and is conficted to death.
Really I would expect better from teachers.
There is still a thing called freedom of speech.
He is allowed to have a different opinion and express it.
The way he did it is disrespectfull and indeed deserved the ticket he got. But, what I read in you're statement is that, the reaction of the teachers was not aimed against the way he made the statement, but at the statement he made.
And that is fundamently wrong. He has a right to say what he thinks and feels even if you don't agree with what he say's.
The way he did it was wrong offcourse and he deserves the ticket he got.
We have a simular discussion in two different threads here.

One thing keeps bothering me though and thats that the americans seem to think that 9-11 was only directed at them.
I completely disagree with that, in my opinion 9-11 was an act of agression against all western nation including my own country, The Netherlands.
This was also seen this way by NATO thus invocing paragraph 5 of the treaty, stating that an attack against one of the nations is an attack against ALL the nations in NATO.
But judging by most of the reactions on this board most US people seem to think that they alone are under attack and the rest of the world is their enemy (including other NATO country's). I just don't think this is correct.

Kein Bojangles

Dude, shut the fuck up. He had a right to say what he said, and he wasn't punished for what he said. He was punished for the way he said it. If he had stood up and been like "Fuck France!11!onewon!1" then he would have gotten the same treatment. People have a right to their opinions also, and my opinion is the kid is a fuckhead who should be shot. So what? He expressed his opinion, I express mine.

MarzMartini

I love the people who try to support this shit.

Remember to invite me to your weddings.

So when you both say "I do" I can yell "CUM GUZZLING WHORE!" as loud as I can and proceed to urinate on the wedding cake.

Then I will have the defense lawyers at the LOTJ law firm get me off the hook for using my freedom of speech.