Anterak

As a eagerly waiting euro, I went to check US forums to know how HS implementation went.

Well you can say "mess". Everyone wants to raid, kill, get a flashy "honnorable kill" on his/her screen.
My feeling is that it will cool down with time, ganking and zerging won't give as much as raiding high level instances (especially not in the same time frame), but for now it seems to be the chaos of discovering.

Any insider's comments on this 1.4 patch?

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The problem with humanity is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

Sir Trumzak

This recent patch sounded great at the start. You cannot pass any horde now without being attacked on site. I was in the WorldDefense channel and just about every zone i knew of was under attack and dozens more that i have never even herd of. Tarren Mill on my server got pwned. Gagdetzan is being flooded with horde with the occational "rooftop" camper . I do this that the pvp will even out and will make it very fun, but at the moment everyone wants to get their rank up to commander for that 90 gold epic mount or that new equipment. The only huge ass complain that i have is the damn lag. I usually run around 70-120 latency but it has went up to 2-5k latency which is not playable when it takes me over 30 seconds to cast my insta cast spells. I guess the horde pwned the arena last night, but that pirate did not spawn and so the horde got together about 60+ and camped STv all night. So far i do not like this patch but i will if they fix the lag

Skullcrusher
(PVP)

Tanje

I play on Skullcrusher as well. My character is Wysteria of Iron Council.

The ganking was nuts last night. As soon as I landed on the griff in Astranaar, I was killed. Released, ran back, starting running, killed again. =/ I think the honor system is a great idea if you could only get points for killing pc's within your level range. Level 60s camping newbie zones is stupid.

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Buadyen

Your first mistake was playing WoW on a patch day.

Blizzard's doing a pretty good job in the "which company can fuck up the most patches" department, although Sony isn't too far behind.

Hopefully they get the latency problems fixed quickly and the ganking dies down to something close to it's previous levels once the newness of the Honor system wears off.

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Buadyen Adurant'linnod
Level 70 Ranger
<Vallis Aspectus>
Ayonae Ro

Fazin

Wait a second, thats 2 people from the Alliance... complaining about the Horde? :/

Afk, getting my tinfoil hat, the apocalypse is nigh.

Karg01

Last night there was like 100 alliance at TM/Org/Barrens simultaneously, it was just retarded.

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Kargon - Undead Mage
Elegy

Krakah Jax

I'm still waiting for my moonfire to finish casting from last night

The mobs of alliance were so big, and the lag so great that, I couldn't even tell I was in the middle of them because they hadn't registered on screen yet. When the lag caught up I was dead.

Alliance cant do shit on Elune unless they have 10x the people

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Sykon
Undead Rogue
Draenor

Kelraz Bladesinger

Honestly, I think its awesome. I've collected about 500 kills so far (solo, none of that pansy raid I-get-credit-if-a-mage-next-to-me-uses-an-AE crap) ... and honestly if you can solo or duo thats FAR better when it comes to points (was getting about 60 contribution points / kill opposed to like 2 or 3/kill in a raid setting) and you can do this outside of TM ... just sneaking around sniping people.

The things to realize is:
You kill in a raid, you get contribution points divided by 40.
You kill in a group, you get contribution points divided by 5.
You kill someone who just landed, or just zoned: you don't get shit.
You kill someone who just rezzed: you don't get shit.
You kill someone who is grey: you don't get shit.
Green is hardly noticeable, even cons and up are where the real contribution points are and you can kill 20 greens and not get as much as a person who killed 1 even con ... its just not worth wasting time and effort on people lower level than you.

Tanje

I think the concept of pvp is great, I love the alliance versus the horde, and I think its hysterical when they raid zones. BUT, I think raiding a newbie zone with a raid of level 60s is gei. I just wish that they made it impossible to attack someone of such lower level without them attacking you first or something.

The person who said they were still waiting for their moonfire to cast from last night cracked me up!

**edit to add**
While its great you don't get anything for those acts, you also don't get penalized for it. I think if they added in a penalty, that would help a lot!

Anterak

Problem with penalties for "greykill" is possible abuse and difficulties.
No more AE in towns, no more "lowbie" help, and more than I can think of.

Carrot instead of stick. When there is no point in bashing lowbies, why do it?