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Old 08-13-2003   #1
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It seems there is a push to socialize health care in the US.

The socialist ARo folks must be lobbying our doctors!

www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/08/12/national.insurance.ap/index.html
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Old 08-13-2003   #2
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slow day at work Esbat?
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I'm guessing the doctors want to avoid insurance hassle and get more money to boot.
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Very slow, after the Blaster virus stuff yesterday (which we avoided) we are keeping a low profile today.

I just used Ytrok's name in the thread since I know he approves strongly of socialized medicine.

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I'm guessing the doctors want to avoid insurance hassle and get more money to boot.
I'm guessing that that is what they are thinking- or are at least willing to settle for reasonable malpractice insurance costs.


Anyhow, 8000 doctors are frankly just a drop in the bucket.
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And there's what I think one of the real issues is - I think the right place to start is some sort of regulation on malpractice suits or malpractice insurance. Figure out how to control that and you'll help bring down medical costs.

Doesn't necessarily affect prescription drug costs, but it's a place to start.
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I just used Ytrok's name in the thread since I know he approves strongly of socialized medicine.
Doesn't everyone?
Well judging by some of the reactions I guess not.

I believe every human being has a right to :
- food
- shelter
- healthcare.

Maybe some people call that socialism or some even communism, I just call that humanism.

And yes I feel the government has a role in providing this.
I'm not saying they should provide it to all, just to the people that for some reason (beyond their control) are not able to get it for themselves.
If the reason for not having waiting lists, simply is that people can't afford to get medical help, there is something seriously wrong with the system IMO. (I'm not saying I want a waiting list).
So I feel a mix of "social" health-care and "private" health-care is the solution.

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I'm guessing the doctors want to avoid insurance hassle and get more money to boot.
Well a "socialized" health-care would mean a pay cut to doctors, so I don't think that money is the reason.
Maybe if the "insurance" is such an hassle that it prevents doctors from doing good medicine it's not by definition a bad thing to get rid of it. Then again it has pro's and con's.

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And there's what I think one of the real issues is - I think the right place to start is some sort of regulation on malpractice suits or malpractice insurance
Solution is simple:
Make a set of rules to judge the "malpractice" by and
set a max on the pay-out of the malpractice suits and let it be judged by an "arbiter" rather then a court of law.
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Can we add Affordable Car insurance to that list?
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Well a "socialized" health-care would mean a pay cut to doctors,
I'm not sure why you assume that. More people getting health care means more revenue. Streamlined payment processes means that doctors/hospitals write off fewer unpaid bills each year and have lower overhead costs. I'm guessing these doctors aren't going to sign up to support a program with that limits the payout for certain types of services.
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And yes I feel the government has a role in providing this
Do parents actually teach kids that the government is capable of producing wealth?
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Can we add Affordable Car insurance to that list?
Too many off road "excursions"?
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